Eafc 25

[Yevrah]

You know the drill, more of the same. Who's on the early access?

[SincereTheRebel]

I dont. I havent bought it yet. Ill just the proper version

Does anybody have access to any of the old Fifa? I want to collect some Pro Clubs data from Fifa 22 and earlier. You cant download them from the PS store anymore so it seems you need the disc. I dont even know if you can get into the pro clubs section and if the stats are still there

[wullie]

They've included the CBS for some reason, guessing they scanned it when we were in the playoff final just in case. Suck it Molton Road.

[Baz]

Do you lot play games or just open virtual packets of stickers and watch men come through curtains?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He says whilst cleaning his wrestling dolls.

[Danny]

Likely wont bother for a while.

For 23 I ended up getting it in November when the itch came back. Then for 24 I didn't pre order but evos got me back in the door. Seeing how they handled those earlier in the year, and not expecting them to be any better this year, I will be holding off. The "new" features dont feel as much of a leap forward as evos and play styles last year.

[Baz]

He says whilst cleaning his wrestling dolls.They'll never come out the box. Safe and sound in the loft.

Was a genuine question. "eFootball" is trash now. Last time I played FIFA (22 I'd guess, maybe 23? Blackburn had Brereton Diaz as their best player) it was even worse.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Personally I always like "grinding the menus" more enjoyable than playing the game.

So doing SBC's to get packs to open them.

I'm not getting it this year (until it's free) as I just bought Madden.

[Raoul Duke]

I've got it, ready for early access etc. 20th Sept, right?

[wullie]

I play career mode exclusively, and I'm stupid enough to hope some of the bugs that are reported on a weekly basis will be addressed. You have to have hope I suppose

[Yevrah]

I've got it, ready for early access etc. 20th Sept, right?

Yep, I'm on that too. Gonna hit it hard over that weekend.

[thommo]

I've gone for Madden (for the first time in several years), so I think I'm taking this year off FIFA (until it hits GamePass next summer). I did enjoy 24 for what it's worth. Building a ridiculous Fulham P&P squad for the first edition ever was great, but towards the end I barely played the game and was just grinding the menus to kill time.

It'll give me opportunity to play more of other games (finally can get round to playing Yakuza, RDR 2, rerun every Halo campaign as it's been years, Far Cry 5/6, etc.).

[SincereTheRebel]

As always, i game share the game on day one and mainly play Pro Clubs until TOTS comes out then ill dive into UT.

This year though. I will start Ultimate team with these rules.
Evo Wolves players Only
No coins spent

[Danny]

Looks like there is a good chunk of United bronze cards. Would always recommend having a couple of each on the trade pile. Last year Mainoo, Shoretire and Bennett would fly at the sniff of an evo.

[SincereTheRebel]

Somehow they will put a stop to cards like that going extinct or do something so we cant profit from holding cards. They did it with MM, league sbcs, etc. They will do it with evos

[Yevrah]

Making every pack with a silver or bronze it in untradeable would be one way.

[Danny]

imagine if they got rid of BPM.

[Raoul Duke]

Pitch notes: https://www.ea.com/games/ea-sports-fc/fc-25/news/pitch-notes-fc-25-football-ultimate-team-launch-update


As always, let’s kick this one off with the big question: When can I jump into EA SPORTS FC™ 25?

Companion & Web App Launch: Starting from 19 September, you’ll be able to kick start your Football Ultimate Team Club on web, with a refreshed Companion App dropping on 20 September. Players who are re-joining us from Football Ultimate Team 24 will also get a little something extra with returning user rewards, which I’m pleased to announce are back for Football Ultimate Team 25!

Early Access Launch: If you’ve pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition of EA SPORTS FC™ 25, you’ll be able to jump into the game from midnight (local time) on 20 September on Console and from 5 AM BST on 20 September on PC. EA Play* members will be able to play up to 10 hours of FC 25 via the trial, while EA Play Pro (PC only) members will get unlimited access to EA SPORTS FC™ 25.

Worldwide Launch: If you’ve pre-ordered the Standard Edition of EA SPORTS FC™ 25, you’ll be able to jump into the game from midnight (local time) on 27 September on Console and from 5 AM BST on 27 September on PC.

[Yevrah]

The champs changes are an incredibly cynical way to get people to spend money on packs.

My money is on them relaxing them very shortly into the game, this side of Christmas at least.

[Yevrah]

15 wins needed for upgraded Division Rivals rewards is such arse and I confidently predict everyone will ultimately hate it.

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah, that seems the most severe change. More than doubling it to receive the same rewards whilst moving a bunch of objectives into friendly modes. Likewise making qualifiers 3/5 is going to be savage.

Some good stuff like making top tier rewards really good and reducing the SB games down.

[Danny]

Web App moved to today.

[Yevrah]

Right, plan is to get home from work tomorrow, have a few hours kip and then hit it for a bit on launch (probably only to see the servers die). Won't be starting on the web app.

[Yevrah]

Dawned on me that now I'm back on Xbox I might have the 'moving' to New Zealand option. Does this still work?

[Danny]

Based on my twitter feed, yes. I havent been on reddit though.

[Raoul Duke]

Greetings from New Zealand :hat:

[Yevrah]

Excellent. I hear it's lovely there this time of year.

[Raoul Duke]

Rattled through some SB games to clear off some objectives. Didn't pack anything of note aside from a Bruno and a Mazraoui (who looks pretty decent).

Tactics seem like they could be interesting (setting players at corners seems cool) but I didn't get into the new game mode yet. There's some bug I keep getting when going to the store which requires killing the app and restarting :moop:

Gameplay is a bit floaty and the camera still feels a bit off, but otherwise it's back once again for the renegade master.

[Yevrah]

Rush is, as suspected, utterly fucking horrific.

You pick a player, go into a four on four match with a stereotypical forrin commentator bleating all over the shop, you play the game, which lasts forever and it has absolutely no connection with your actual ultimate team apart from earning you points towards XP. But, but, but, the one game I played we won 8-2, I scored 4 goals and I got 2,200 Rush points and I need 70,000 of the fuckers to complete the objective related to it for some packs and XP. 35 games of that shit as an absolute minimum in 7 days? Kill me now.

[Yevrah]

Oh and my 4,600 FIFA Points are nowhere to be seen.

[Danny]

Rush sounds horrendous :lol:

Will the FIFA points come in when it hits release date for where you genuinely are?

[Yevrah]

Suspect so, I'll find out in 21 minutes.

[Yevrah]

Got the points, but I'm already bored. :face:

[Danny]

This is supposed to be the most fun time of the year!

Didnt realize Vidal as back in the game. His stats are nice for a silver card outside pace. Might be a decent evo investment.

[Yevrah]

I got more engaged with it before I turned in, but I really don't like the changes they've made so far and Rush is piss stain on the entire game - we're stuck with it as well for this entire cycle at least as there's no chance of them aborting it inside a year given the focus they've put on it.

[Danny]

The fact the linked it to UT means they wont abandon it like that Volta shit.

[Yevrah]

The requirements for that Alaba SBC do not bode well.

[Raoul Duke]

It's just to get people to rinse their points/spend for the sake of completing it for "prestige"

[Raoul Duke]

Played some Rush just now...I quite like it. Mostly it just comes down to having people who actually track back being the difference between winning and losing, so I've found myself playing as defenders a fair bit. Amusing that you can clearly spot a ball-hogging ingrate IRL, even via the medium of FIFA :D

I do wonder if they'll keep it alive artificially via objectives or it'll just be like Moments which was left to die and I'd imagine will get croaked in the next next version or so

[Yevrah]

I got in last night drunk and actually got on much better with it. I think a TTH team could be almost fun. It'll make the objectives easier to get as well as we'd full bonus it every time rather than watching in pain as your team mates completely ignore that fundamental aspect of the mode.

[Danny]

I fell for it last year but I won’t be falling for an early game Kobbie evo again.

[Waffdon]

I’ve bought this for this first time in donkeys. Defending still as impossible as ever. I tried to copy some bloke off of YouTube and his tactics set up but he has the defensive line as high and I have no idea how they manage to defend like that. The opposition just lump the ball from defence to their strikers and it’s a 2v2 on the half way line.

Div 6 and already infuriating. The difference in quality from 7 to 6 has been mental

[Mike]

Downloaded the ten hour trial, and, playing just offline, I think I like it. Is there any cheap way to get it?

[Danny]

I think it’s 10% off in the store. That and buying discounted PSN cards is usually the way

[Yevrah]

Right, that’s 4 peeps who have it now and enough to hammer through the Rush objectives. Y’all in?

[SincereTheRebel]

What are the rush obj and what is the reward?

[Yevrah]

You have to get 70,000 Rush points (from playing the new Rush game mode) and you get a load of SP (was XP) and some decent packs (including an 84x2).

You get somewhere between 1,400 and 4,000 Rush points per game depending on how many players you have that fit the bonus points criteria.

[SincereTheRebel]

Fuck it. Im in.

[Yevrah]

Sweet. My username is Chemical Locust, will be about tonight.

[Raoul Duke]

I completed it yesterday but I can join in a bit later if you need me.

It's pretty easy if you have at least one or two players who'll bother tracking back. Then it's just basketball and outscoring the opposition. Easiest way to score is to sweat it across the box.

btw - make sure you add the players who'll tick off the "team objective" in the player select and you can rattle through it way quicker

[Bam]

Are you playing on xbox or PS5 with is?

[Yevrah]

I’m on Xbox Bam but it’s all cross play these days so doesn’t really matter.

[Bam]

Oh yeah, that true. Might have to join in with you guys at some point.

[Danny]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EASportsFC/comments/1fnp0y8/psa_moments_2_player_glitch/

[Waffdon]

The issue with rush is the teammates. I’m by no means good but 90% of my games are filled with literal retards on my team. It’s horrendous

[Yevrah]

First update time.

Only two rules for this year, untradeable only in the squad and no FIFA Points. These are the lad(ette)s cobbled together as we stand:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnLT6Jn0/20240924.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Foden was literally just packed from one of those 77+ x2 upgrade packs and need to work out how to fit him in.

Loving Kane, Schuller and Gnabry, but the standout is Rice who moves to CDM in a 41212 and is an absolute menace. Game is really growing on me now, will post some more detailed thoughts once I've been into Rivals properly this coming weekend.

[Yevrah]

The issue with rush is the teammates. I’m by no means good by 90% if my games are filled with literal retards on my team. It’s horrendous

It really is. I don't understand how (presumably) the same people give me so much trouble in the main game mode, just so many people who do not have a clue.

Still up for some TTH at some point, but I hammered through the points needed solo last night thanks to that new Rush mode, which gave double points.

[Yevrah]

Oh and untradeable duplicate storage was long overdue but it might be the single best thing they've ever added. Opening packs is no longer a slog and the fodder you can accumulate is :alan:

[Waffdon]

Yeah that is great. Wasn’t sure if it came in this year or not.

Defending is just far too hard in this game. FIFA should never have such a high skill gap. It’s not Cod

[SincereTheRebel]

The issue with rush is the teammates. I’m by no means good by 90% if my games are filled with literal retards on my team. It’s horrendous

It looks like a mini drop in pro clubs which means everybody is a ball hog.

[Waffdon]

Just opened the Jumbo Rare Players Pack. 24 rare with guaranteed 84+ through the objectives (250 goals I think). Nathan Ake and a bunch of 80-75s. My lord :D

[Yevrah]

Haven’t hit anyone obscene so far, but my pack luck has been pretty decent so far. Got 4 walkouts in a row from one of the foundation SBC segments.

[Yevrah]

Oh and on SBC’s I haven’t done any players yet but I think I will do all the cheaper ones, a hard pass on Alaba and a probable pass on Haaland but we’ll see how the fodder goes.

[Waffdon]

Cannot believe I have been sat here for an hour thinking the ‘moments’ Ultimate milestone level was just literally impossible before releasing the game is glitched for me and the only way you can resolve it is by changing your team to 442 and having no tactics. Bloody hell

[Waffdon]

And I’ve just opened the Jumbo Rare players pack again from the above objective (is that 50k?) and got that Ruud Gullit lookalike Ake once again as my best player. Fuck sake

[Yevrah]

How did you get the squad rating for Ultimate moments Waff?

[Waffdon]

Stacked it with loan players. I’ll screenshot later if I remember but I’m not really sure how it was 88 rated. I had 3 players 84 or under in the starting XI. :lol:

https://i.ibb.co/4wbPqHv/IMG-0046.png

https://i.ibb.co/Njkcrkc/IMG-0047.png

[Waffdon]

Div 5 Rival rewards as meh as ever. Mega pack was full of consumables. 75 x 10 rare players pack gave me Alaba as highest rated and 75 x 25 rare players pack gave me Rice and Alaba and a bunch of low rated fodder

[SincereTheRebel]

I think this version, im going down another Wolves Evo route, but this time. EVERY evo is going to be a wolves players. Even the paid versions. I will spend my coins on. The past several fifas, at the end of the game i still have millions of coins im not spending. I have been playing with untradeables for years now.

[Yevrah]

My plan is to save coins and big packs for TOTY as trying to pack one of those bad boys is just fun and there's always a power curve spike from the SBC's anyway. That said, tempted by that Octopus evo on a packed Renato Sanches I have. You can stick another one on him afterwards and make him an 84 that looks very tidy.

[Waffdon]

Packed Fernando Torres from the gold upgrade SBCs. Only done a few to clear my SBC fodder as was maxed out. Noice

[Yevrah]

That must be the shittiest Marquee Matchups rewards I've ever seen.

[Raoul Duke]

Anyone around tonight and wants to rattle through the Bronze/Silver team objectives? Just score an OG and quit + repeat

[SincereTheRebel]

How do you set your corner instructions. When i have a corner. I have two players back on the halfway line. Im getting countered to death

[Waffdon]

How do you set your corner instructions. When i have a corner. I have two players back on the halfway line. Im getting countered to death

I just take it short to avoid it.

Although I really need to figure out corners and free kicks. I’m getting scored on a lot especially with the former

Also packed Mbappe from season progress pack. Ultimate sweat squad activated :drool:

[SincereTheRebel]

How do you set your corner instructions. When i have a corner. I have two players back on the halfway line. Im getting countered to death

Ive checked and it does not seem possible. Surely that havent removed it.

[Yevrah]

Jesus Waff, most understated post ever that. Isn't he like 4m coins? :drool:

[Yevrah]

Ive checked and it does not seem possible. Surely that havent removed it.

There are/were some corner settings right at the bottom of the roles section (free kicks/corners etc.) but they're very minimal.

[Yevrah]

Oh and having played a load of Rivals last night Harry Kane has to go. Much like England this summer, I was genuinely better with ten men.

[Waffdon]

Jesus Waff, most understated post ever that. Isn't he like 4m coins? :drool:

Think so, untradeable though. Wouldn’t have minded selling him and getting a bunch of non golds in

[Raoul Duke]

Also packed Mbappe from season progress pack. Ultimate sweat squad activated :drool:

FFS :moop:

Enjoy, you absolute bastard

[Waffdon]

Hehe

Anyone settled on a formation yet? I think I’ve used just about every 4 at the back so far

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive used the 433 holding with one falseback which works well. However the ST is often isolated as i havent found out how to get thr CMs to run beyond him.

[Raoul Duke]

Servers shitting the bed. Quelle suprise.

No idea on the formation. I'm just doing what I usually do and waiting for Boras to figure out what works then copy it

[Yevrah]

The server situation somehow made worse due to that stupid turnstyles are busy message, which you watch count down before it dies.

[Waffdon]

Ive used the 433 holding with one falseback which works well. However the ST is often isolated as i havent found out how to get thr CMs to run beyond him.

Have your wingers as inside forwards if you don’t already. I’m not having issues that side of the pitch but maybe that’s why i concede so much. Need to try find a happy medium

[Yevrah]

The upgrade path for those new promo cards is the dumbest thing I think they’ve ever done in that regard. So few of them are going to get anything more than a +1.

[Waffdon]

Sesko looks like he could be bonkers

[Waffdon]

People not leaving after going 1-0 down in friendlies is a chore

[SincereTheRebel]

Have your wingers as inside forwards if you don’t already. I’m not having issues that side of the pitch but maybe that’s why i concede so much. Need to try find a happy medium

I understand that is the meta want i want my CMs in those positions if possible. Will keep testing.

[Waffdon]

The booking system on this game is completely broken. Guys smashing you from behind as the last man not even being booked but you’re getting red cards for jockeying and giving away fouls

[Yevrah]

The upgrade path for those new promo cards is the dumbest thing I think they’ve ever done in that regard. So few of them are going to get anything more than a +1.

If it’s team goals for one of the upgrades I’ll change my mind on this.

Packed my first promo card in Kean from one of the Otamendi objective packs earlier.

[Raoul Duke]

I have a pretty sweet upgrade path (https://www.fut.gg/players/272644-habeeb-ogunneye/evolutions/) available for this kid (some Utd player I've never even heard of, but #herewego). Got him 1st Owner a little while back and figured he'd come good in an Evo path at some point

[SincereTheRebel]

*Menu delay on PS5 is horrific
*I have to open and close the game at least once per session

[SincereTheRebel]

Been tweaking tactics in a 433 CDM and ive found that i need to put my wingers on wide playmakers attack. The fullist heat map shows them right by the corner flags which is where i want them. High up against the opps fullbacks.

This give my two cms more room in the center. With one of my full backs inverting. I can just toy and frustrate my opponents and recycle the ball in the middle.

I havent given long ball FC a go yet. Anyone used Thuram POTM yet?

[SincereTheRebel]

I find L1+ through ball passes work well around the box if you have a player running onto it. A few times ive been caught out where ive put my striker through and it looks like the ball will favour the defender, but your striker strongarms the defender out the way.

[Yevrah]

Haaland from the player pick Rush reward.

[Raoul Duke]

Nice. Haaland must be a beast this early game against the assorted shitters people have littering their teams.

I got a tradeable Foden and Gundogan from Squid Battles which was a sweet 130k or so into the account.

[Yevrah]

Played one game on SB World Class and he felt like an absolute lummox. Might need a formation change to get the most out of him.

Talking of Squad Battles, I've been utterly fucked this week with my first four games - all 80+ rated squads.

[Waffdon]

Squad battles is a bit of a cheat code for packs and stuff if you can be arsed grinding it. Thankfully wfh makes it somewhat manageable

[Yevrah]

What are you playing on difficulty wise Waff and which rank do you finish in?

[Waffdon]

I’ll be honest, I didn’t know you only got 12 games to get your score until I played my 13th game and got 0’s all over at the end of the game. I was just playing semi pro to get rewards and spam the power shot, finesse assists etc for packs. So winning anywhere from 20-0 or more. I got Elite 3 rewards I think.

When I do it again I’ll probably go world class. I assume that’s a high enough quality to hit Elite 1 at the minimum but I think I’ll wait until closer to Sunday this week so I know what score I need.

[Waffdon]

They got rid of max 79 for rush? Thank the lord.

[Yevrah]

Once you are on World Class any tips on how you break down the opposition when their midfield drops back and you have a wall of 7/8 players in front of you would be appreciated.

[Waffdon]

I deliberately give them the ball and do my best to tackle them nearer my box and spam the driven pass to my forwards. Once my forward has the ball, do the give and go and he should make a run in behind the defence. The AI defence at world class is still pretty pants when they’re running backwards so it should be a free goal when you’re in behind

[Yevrah]

I deliberately give them the ball

Excellent. :D

Thank you. The amount of time I waste jinking around their box to no avail is unreal.

[Danny]

@Waff you should have 14 games if you play the TOTW and special teams.

Feel like the AI on higher levels was same on the previous one. Counter attacking them all the way. When you on top you end up having to have a pop from range to win a corner to abuse that or give them a goal kick to get them up the field.

[Yevrah]

I didn't really think Rush could get much worse after week 1, but it's now full of people AFKing just to get the points to get the objectives done for packs and the bonus points game this weeks requires (all of) you to use a centre back.

Couple that with the fact the entire game now appears to be geared around the top 10% to 20% of players and I think EA might have run mad a bit. Which is a shame as the rest of it is pretty decent to far.

[Yevrah]

New 1st team time:

https://i.postimg.cc/vHfTS00w/20240930.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

My Rento is slightly different to that as I didn't put him through the Octopus and Futbin don't seem to have the 84 path card I took instead. All on full chem bar Martinelli who is on two. Might have to give Haaland that welcome to cosmetic evo.

[Yevrah]

Talking of Squad Battles, I've been utterly fucked this week with my first four games - all 80+ rated squads.

And my one game from the second set against an under 80 rated team finished 4-0 to me but disconnected before the rewards appeared and was registered as a 3-0 loss. FFS. I'll be lucky to get Gold 1 this week now.

[Yevrah]

10 games with Haaland and he had to go, he's just shit. His movement is horrible like Harry Kane, but unlike Harry he also can't pass and has a three star weak foot so he actively kills attacks unless the ball falls to him on his left foot at the right angle, when in fairness to him he will score, but those opportunities are far too limited for it to be worthwhile. His Poacher ++ is a lie as well as there is absolutely no difference in the runs he makes, which are no less moronic than any other striker I've used so far. Thank God I packed him rather than be tempted to mortgage the club into his SBC.

Gabriel Martinelli also out, with Kane and Schuller back in the side and we move to 4-2-4, with Foden on the wing and Kane moving into his Southgate England role. Some wins on World Class followed against decent opposition, with a hat-trick from Schuller in the last one and we should be good for at least Gold 1 now.

Curious to hear the thoughts of others on the role +'s and ++'s as my experience with them so far is very underwhelming - I genuinely can't tell the difference between utilising them and not.

[Raoul Duke]

The Roles thing is just an overlay on the tactics stuff from last year. I don't think it's any real difference at all. Like Neymar would be "bad" at being a striker, but he's also great because he's 5/5 and agile as fuck.

The main thing it does is obfuscate how your team will actually play, which seems to be the main point.

[Waffdon]

I disagree, I think the ++ does make a difference. The biggest thing I noticed was Bernardo Silva being used as a ‘half winger’. Played completely different and felt great.

Halaand I agree with. I very much regret his SBC

[Yevrah]

I think the roles themselves make a difference, I'm just yet to see ++ or + do anything.

[SincereTheRebel]

The roles 100% make a difference. Putting my wingers on Wide Playmaker - Attack compared to Winger - Attack was huge. The wide players stay closer to the oppositions full backs. Super high and super wide. Just where i want them.

[Raoul Duke]

I think the roles themselves make a difference, I'm just yet to see ++ or + do anything.

Yeah, this is what I meant

[Yevrah]

Yeah, this is what I meant

Yeah, thought you did.

[Waffdon]

Can’t see me getting out of div 4 for a long time. Literally cannot defend to save myself. Might be the hardest thing to do in video games

[Yevrah]

I got my 15 wins across Division 8 and 7, which is where I am now and it was relatively comfortable for someone shit at the game like me. I'm under no illusion though, get promoted to a Division you can't cope with and you're going to have a horrible time.

I thought relegation being brought back was supposed to sort this, but I then heard that's only in Division 1 and 2, which is yet another thing in the game this year aimed at top level players. I genuinely don't understand what they're playing at.

[Raoul Duke]

Even Boras is struggling and yoyo-ing between Div 2-3, and he'd regularly go unbeaten in Champs

[SincereTheRebel]

I started in div 5 and once I win a game, i score an OG and quit the next five. I aint leaving

[Yevrah]

Even Boras is struggling and yoyo-ing between Div 2-3, and he'd regularly go unbeaten in Champs

That is absolutely insane.

[SincereTheRebel]

Its about time things got a lil tough but give me some casual game mode without SBMM inside ultimate team. Rush is good but within UT, it isnt going to last long. The pro clubs version will.

[Waffdon]

I don’t want to come across all Matt Le Tiss but there’s 1000% some sort of weird handicap/script when facing lower rated squads. The amount of random dodgy goals that happen or red cards is beyond a joke

[Waffdon]

Finally hit Division 3 in time for tomorrow’s rewards.

They look quite nice. 2 players picks 84+, 1 mega pack, 1 82+ TOTW pack, 75x15 rare gold players pack, 75x35 rare gold players pack and 40k.

[Yevrah]

I’ve just got VVD from the 1 coin 1 player pack. :drool:

[Yevrah]

And IF Martinez tradeable from my Div 7 Rivals rewards. :D

[Raoul Duke]

Mega. VVD lasted me months when I packed him last year

[Waffdon]

And IF Martinez tradeable from my Div 7 Rivals rewards. :D

I’ve just bought him for champs. Hope he’s as good as he looks.

Best I got from rivals was Frenkie De Jong. Looking forward to breaking controls tomorrow in the sweat fest

[Waffdon]

Having to win basically half your games to get decent rewards is utter shite patter

[Waffdon]

Getting into division 3 might have been a terrible idea. I’ve lost 7 in a row and permanently stuck here. I might not even reach the 45 points for upgrades at this point :D

[Yevrah]

I’ve just bought him for champs. Hope he’s as good as he looks.


I sold him and sort of regret it, the card looked immense. But give it time and I won't care.

[Waffdon]

Finished on 6 wins. Disgraceful stuff.

Game still feels like it’s in a beta state. Genuinely no idea how I didn’t win at least 3 of the games

Not knowing how to take or defend any set pieces is really fucking me

Pedri and Modric the best of the rewards. Not even worth the boredom of grinding your dick off

[SincereTheRebel]

Didnt qualify for WL via playoffs. Got slapped about in final game.

[Yevrah]

Jesus, if you can't qualify Sincere I genuinely have no hope at any point this game cycle.

EA have run mad.

[SincereTheRebel]

My team is basic and im not running anything meta so im not surprised.

[Waffdon]

Jesus, if you can't qualify Sincere I genuinely have no hope at any point this game cycle.

EA have run mad.

Even the qualification seems utterly mad. Far too difficult for people wanting to enjoy the game

[Yevrah]

I'm finding more problems with this approach from EA, this time in friendlies and I think I've worked out why.

Last year when a friendly objective was released I'd struggle to get the wins in the first few days until all of the sweats had done their thing and then I'd swoop in and knock 10 wins out in say, 13 or 14 games.

This year I again tried on day one for the Evo lounge and got my arse handed to me, which was no surprise. Tried again after 3 or 4 days and the same thing happened. Hmmm. Fast forward to last night and it's still happening but I did manage one win. Back on tonight and I've faced five opponents in a row who are just flat out better than me, so I quit each time after going 2/3-0 down in 20-30 mins. Thinking what the actual fuck is happening it then hit me. The matchmaking has changed to form, hasn't it? Form in friendlies. Which means none of the 10 or so losses I've had actually count as such as I didn't finish any of the games. So my elo is positive and I'm facing opponents in the same boat.

Which has led to me putting my controller down and going AFK in this current game, while losing 4-0, in a determined effort to see if starting to rack some full game losses up will actually register against my form.

I'll be honest gents, this is not how I want to be spending my time.

[Yevrah]

Even the qualification seems utterly mad. Far too difficult for people wanting to enjoy the game

I'm genuinely baffled by these changes as they must serve, what, 5-10% of their userbase? I was ok with not always being able to qualify for Weekend League previously, but if you're going to make it so I never can again then at least give me a Europa League style alternative (or in my case Conference League). Chuck in the fact that Rivals is 15 wins, which will only be tolerable when you're ascending the divisions or have sand bagged the shit out of it (which everyone will ultimately do as why would you want to play upwards of 40 high stress games to get the points needed every.single.week for 40 fucking weeks in a row) and friendlies also seems fucked and I'm close to giving it a rest for a bit until they sort this shit out.

I'd have minded less if Squad Battles had been left alone so at least I had somewhere to play a decent number of games with something riding on them. But oh no, even that had to be fucked with to make it worth the while of top level players bothering with.

[Waffdon]

:D

Yeah, I regret sweating for division 3 rewards. I highly doubt I’m going to even get the upgraded rewards as I’m away most of mid week and that would mean spending all weekend trying my dick off after raging all of today playing it.

I think I’d be in Div 6 without Mbappe

[Yevrah]

:D

Yeah, I regret sweating for division 3 rewards. I highly doubt I’m going to even get the upgraded rewards as I’m away most of mid week and that would mean spending all weekend trying my dick off after raging all of today playing it.


I'm in the same boat in terms of being tied up with work a lot next week so won't have much time midweek. I could grind however many friendlies to get the Evo objectives done and play a stupid amount of Rivals in two days over the weekend, but I just don't want to.

Obviously there was some twisted logic in these changes that they thought would result in them selling more packs (as obvs that's the key driver for everything they do) and while it might initially as players push to be competitive, that won't last forever as soon as it dawns on people that by doing so you're only delaying the time it takes to hit the 'having a horrible time' shaped brick wall and start playing less and less. At which point, they'll change this nonsense. How much they change it is the key question.

[Yevrah]

Oh and they need to sort the defensive crab like shit that goes on when the opposition's midfield drops back and sits on top of the defence, making it almost impossible to break through. They can then nerf the L1/RT speed boost nonsense, up the effectiveness of pace a tad and we might actually have the best football game they've made as most of the rest of the way it plays is actually pretty good.

[Waffdon]

Think speed boost is being nerfed in the coming days. Which makes it even more funny how expensive that Nico Williams SBC is because his card outside of pace and dribbling is fairly mid.

[SincereTheRebel]

Wait, so if i quit 10 games in a row. My current record at the end is not 0 wins and 10 losses? Across all game modes.

[Yevrah]

I’m almost certain that’s how it works in Weekend League Sincere and am testing it in friendlies to see if it’s the same there, or at least I would be if I could be arsed.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ffs. That is mega if true.

[Raoul Duke]

I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere/saw Nep talking about it.

It sorta makes sense, but as usual they haven't war-gamed it to think about what that means: people will just AFK and/or sandbag as people don't want to have to play 60 games a week to unlock some bollocks objective player or whatever

[SincereTheRebel]

How long does it take to max out the rush obj in UT? How many games?

[Raoul Duke]

How long does it take to max out the rush obj in UT? How many games?

From memory it's about 20/25 games, depending on how many you win and how much your teammates pick the bonus objective players.

[Yevrah]

It sorta makes sense, but as usual they haven't war-gamed it to think about what that means: people will just AFK and/or sandbag as people don't want to have to play 60 games a week to unlock some bollocks objective player or whatever

Yep, it's staggering that they seem to have spent all of 10 seconds thinking the implications of this through.

[Yevrah]

How long does it take to max out the rush obj in UT? How many games?

What Raoul said, but wait until the new Rush mode appears to do it. Last week's was the CB.

Rush and the associated objectives is another classic example of not thinking things through. The amount of AFK players in it is unreal.

[SincereTheRebel]

I want that Adama card for my Wolves team at some point and im level 8 at the moment. I need to get through the XP. I see you can get XP in order game modes too.

[Waffdon]

I’m in elite 1 on squad battles with 24,300 points and the cut off sits at 23,200 at the minute. The sweats are all going to force me down to Elite 2 over the next 12 hours aren’t they

[Waffdon]

That Varane card :D

The good players defensively are going to be even better now

[SincereTheRebel]

Why an i getting no points for wins in SB? You can only refresh a few times?

[SincereTheRebel]

12 games only it seems

[Waffdon]

I’m in elite 1 on squad battles with 24,300 points and the cut off sits at 23,200 at the minute. The sweats are all going to force me down to Elite 2 over the next 12 hours aren’t they

24,319 :sick:

I wanted that TOTW pack

[SincereTheRebel]

WL is a different beast completely. Playing people I am clearly better than. If they play a super high line, and offisde traps. They feel like an elite god.

[SincereTheRebel]

Also my game keeps crashing when i go to the evo tab. I got 7 wins in WL after a grind and got some green cosmetic thing i had to claim. Since then. Crash happy

[Raoul Duke]

This Thuram card looks ridiculous for this stage of the game. 80+ in every face stat, links to the other Thuram and Varane too, plus can upgrade :cab:

[Waffdon]

Utterly bonkers. So cheap as well :D

Tempted to replace Bellingham with him and have him next to RLC

[Danny]

Need to unfollow some of these accounts but this is good for this early…

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[SincereTheRebel]

I suspect it has been patched, but Im leaving the evos ive done as unclaimed in the hope I can string them together at a later date.

What is everyones thoughts on the game so far, more of the same bullshit?

[Waffdon]

It’s decent enough but it’s a bit buggy and I think the passing can be ridiculously bad at times.

Do people think chemistry styles work? I swear you whack a hunter or catalyst on someone and they still feel like a slug.

[Yevrah]

I think chemistry styles do something, roles do something, but I'm still yet to see the benefit of a + or a ++.

[SincereTheRebel]

What i would like to think is, when someone gets a a max playstyle or role. Their stats go to 99 for that particular area. For example. Ive evo'd my joao gomes so he has ++ in the holding role. I would hope he gets 99 in intercept and slidetackle or something like that.

[Gray Fox]

Do people think chemistry styles work? I swear you whack a hunter or catalyst on someone and they still feel like a slug.

They have been "proven" in the past by testing. More specifically certain animations/celebrations are locked to certain things like agility, which can be boosted with chem style. As an example there used to be a celebration in the game where you did a flip of some kind, but you could only perform it with an agility stat of a certain number or higher. They got a player that was under it, with the right chem style on, was suddenly able to do it.

The problem is, for every Hunter you put on, they've got a Shadow on their CB, negating the whole thing really. That's more likely(along with bad gameplay) what you're feeling.

[Yevrah]

That Villa SBC will be a good test. Not a bad card out of the box, but stick a Finisher on her and I'm pretty sure it'll be noticeable.

[Raoul Duke]

100k SBC for a weak RB who's 4/3. Cheers Jeff

[SincereTheRebel]

I thought rush gave out XP but its just packs.

[Waffdon]

:D

Yeah, I regret sweating for division 3 rewards. I highly doubt I’m going to even get the upgraded rewards as I’m away most of mid week and that would mean spending all weekend trying my dick off after raging all of today playing it.

I think I’d be in Div 6 without Mbappe

Grinded out 11 wins in 3-4 hours or so late on Monday night. Might be the play to do my games at that time of night as clearly the players base is less grind heavy and relaxed. Still hard as fuck though.

Think I’m 1 win off Div 2 when I get back. Not sure I want to even get promoted at this point but we’ll see. Let’s hope the pack luck for rewards improves to make it worthwhile. Every single pack luck I’ve had has come from season reward or SBC packs

[Waffdon]

Giuly from hero upgrade. Shite

[Waffdon]

Speed boost nerf is now live and the OP players have been dropping in price fast

If you have a lot of money, I’d imagine the market is about to crash tomorrow with rivals rewards and the objective packs for people who completed stuff last year in time for the new Rush promo on Friday (Mbappe card)

Would imagine they’ll all start to increase again next week

[SincereTheRebel]

Didnt pack anything in rival rewards. Im not fully on objective hunting as i want that Adama card for my Wolves team. 20 days left and I need an additional 16000xp. With the evo's, have you guys been completing but not claiming the last levels in order to try and chain stuff together. Is that still a thing?

[Danny]

They fixed it last year but that doesnt mean it wont work this time around so its worth a shot.

[SincereTheRebel]

Looks like they have stopped some chains. Based on the card needing to be rare. Ffs.

[Waffdon]

I really need to stop winning the first two games in champs because they don’t have then fuck you over in next 4/5 games against people that are quite clearly on another level

[Raoul Duke]

Caroline Hansen out of the Rush rewards pack. 870k card :|

[Waffdon]

The new rush game mode has made everyone refuse to shoot :D

Managed to do them all eventually (well, up to 110k points) and you get a shit load of player picks. Shame every single one was 84 or under and a duplicate.

That Sterling SBC may be tempting. Has the body type to be OP if nothing else

[Raoul Duke]

Where is this Dalot card (https://www.futbin.com/25/player/55542/jose-diogo-dalot-teixeira) to be found? Same with Bind/Dovbyk etc.

[Waffdon]

They’re just part of the mini release. I bought Blind for £14k earlier. Reckon he’ll be quite good in midfield.

https://www.futbin.com/25/player/37887_20_13_17_22/yehor-yarmoliuk

You’re laughing if you’ve not used any evos yet. That card is a joke

[Yevrah]

Rush has completely killed this for me. I'm just not remotely interested in playing it and with so much revolving around it I'm just not interested in playing at all.

[Raoul Duke]

I'm the opposite - I quite like it right now. The main frustration is that most people are absolute fucking mouth-breathing imbeciles and don't understand football in the slightest

[Waffdon]

I feel too old for this game, I don’t know how you lot cope. Watching people make defending look so easy and I would concede 2+ most games to Div 8 players.

Having a super team really hides the deficiencies until you reach the higher divisions. I’m stuck in a revolving Div 3 and 2 cycle. Think I’ve won 2 games on the latter. I got 10 wins in champs but I think I got extremely lucky. Everyone for the majority felt really bad. Even the games I lost were close.

[Waffdon]

Every single TOTW upgrade SBC and TOTW pack in general has been 80 rated I swear. :D

[Raoul Duke]

After playing in the shitty slow pace Rush thing with a bunch of absolute bots, switching to the other mode where I just need assists and using Hansen is ridiculous. She runs rings around the majority of cards in this mode

[SincereTheRebel]

Rush where nobody usually passes and now nobody is shooting because everyone needs assists.

[SincereTheRebel]

After some serious testing. Any formation with 2 strikers is the way to go. You can literally win thr ball with your defenders and do a ping pass directly to your strikers and they will out right on top of the other players defenders. Really difficult to stop. 5 back formations can fuck off too

[Danny]

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This just popped up on my timeline. Jesus.

[Raoul Duke]

There's a monster patch coming that will nerf all the obvious broken shit. Every year, without fail. This is actually version 1.0

[Waffdon]

Patch is fucking dreadful. More rebound goals than ever and nobody can trivela now

Definitely not more pissed off because I’ve lost 6/7 games today. And not even close to winning any.

[Waffdon]

Henrik Larsson in the icon upgrade. Tremendous scenes

[Waffdon]

Another week without even getting a walk out in upgraded rivals rewards. This time in Div 2. Make it make sense.

[Raoul Duke]

Definitely feels like things are more stingy than they were last year. Previously it felt like you could get most SBCs done without too much faff but I'm struggling here.

Patch is out for the rest of the platforms now.

[Waffdon]

Untradable packs are always so much better. I’m already season 40 so can’t even get anymore from there. They really need to increase levels or reduce XP

[SincereTheRebel]

Evo lounge is horrific. The games seem like they last for 30 Minutes each and it really isnt golden goal at all

[Waffdon]

9-6 this week in Champs.

Dudek in the hero pack and another 80 rated player in TOTW pack. Rodri and Odegaard in the fodder packs and nothing in the tradeable.

[SincereTheRebel]

About to dive into champs now. Had some packs from something and won that tradable Zaire-Emre from PSG worth 400k.

Also you cant complete and then unclaim Evos and then throw them into a new Evo. Im not surprised.

[SincereTheRebel]

Finished 9 and 6. Got hero joe cole in my rewards which is great. Made 100k from tradeables so this weekend of rewawrds has been great.

[Waffdon]

I listed everyone tradeable in my club and made a few different leagues first owner only. See if it makes it more fun even if some of the teams aren’t as good.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im looking to pick a formation and have all players be ++ regardless of chemistry and see how it feels

[Danny]

Saw this on reddit. Not sure if its placebo but would be mad if it actually mattered :D

https://www.reddit.com/r/EASportsFC/comments/1g8lqwc/your_camera_settings_might_be_causing_your_delay/

[Waffdon]

This can’t be far off the worst FIFA of all time, surely? The game play is completely broken. Evolutions are broken. Content is the same players recycled every single year. SBCs are ridiculous value.

[Waffdon]

I have no idea if I’m stuck in some sort of weird Coventry wormhole but I’ve played against someone with a Coventry themed team 6+ in a row in friendlies (different person most times) :D

[Yevrah]

This can’t be far off the worst FIFA of all time, surely? The game play is completely broken. Evolutions are broken. Content is the same players recycled every single year. SBCs are ridiculous value.

It’s dogshit. I haven’t touched it for weeks now and I genuinely wish I hadn’t bought it.

[Danny]

This can’t be far off the worst FIFA of all time, surely? The game play is completely broken. Evolutions are broken. Content is the same players recycled every single year. SBCs are ridiculous value.

Drop the Evolutions bit and you have every year :lol:

Guess who got an email from EAids today offering 60% off ultimate edition. It’s been 3 weeks ffs.

[Waffdon]

Highest rated player in 2 mega packs, 75x40 and 75x35 being 84 De Ligt is some effort from EA

[Yevrah]

League SBC's being released early nearly got me back in the game, but I see they've completely fucked the Sud/Lib segment of the Premium League SBC set. You couldn't make it up.

[Yevrah]

Watching Nep, a man who is in or nearly in his 40s, wearing his 20 year old's cap, explaining how to grind League SBC sets that can't actually be ground, sums this all up quite perfectly.

[Waffdon]

I watched his video and didn’t really understand what he was on about tbh with you.

I’ve done the premium sbc 4 or 5 times already.

[Yevrah]

I’ve done the premium sbc 4 or 5 times already.

At a net loss, which is the point/problem.

[Waffdon]

Eh? You only need 1 of Acuna or the goalkeeper and I had multiple of them in my storage. I’m not sure it’s at a net loss either but happy to be proved wrong.

I mean, it would be a lot easier if it wasn’t capped at 1 per team but then it would be far too easy imo

At least the evo’s that released last night look bonkers

[Yevrah]

The common golds you need are either extinct or 5k so at best the whole squad costs about 30k to do or at worst, you can't do it.

https://www.futbin.com/25/squad-building-challenges/ALL/229/libertadores--sudamericana

[Raoul Duke]

New season out: main thing is Rivals going down to 35 points. Rewards for the season look shit, with loads of crap loans.

Just every single thing chipped away until it's the absolute minimum they can give :moop:

[Yevrah]

New season out: main thing is Rivals going down to 35 points.

Called that happening as soon as I saw you needed 45 points. Surprised it's happened so quickly mind and 11 wins and 2 draws is still far too many games. Weekend League will be next.

Nep released a couple of good videos on the state of the game earlier this week and he's bang on. It could be brilliant, but it's just lazy crap at the moment and I remain out until there are some fundamental changes.

[Yevrah]

Actually, Rush alone being a focus of the game will probably be enough to keep me out until a hatchet is taken to that.

[Waffdon]

New season out: main thing is Rivals going down to 35 points. Rewards for the season look shit, with loads of crap loans.

Just every single thing chipped away until it's the absolute minimum they can give :moop:

Probably done the loans because they realised how broken that Adama Traore is. He’s the new Traore.

Think Keane may be in everyone’s team tonight assuming the SBC isn’t too expensive

[Waffdon]

Scrap that, the loans aren’t actually loans. It’s just visual bugs

[SincereTheRebel]

Looks like there is a robbie keane sbc celebrating his goals for coventry but the lad is in a wolves kit unless coventry played in orange away that day.

https://www.fut.gg/players/330-robbie-keane/

[Raoul Duke]

In this new Trailblazers vs. TOTW Rush thing you can just quit the match and it'll count for the games for the objective

[Waffdon]

As if champs wasn’t toxic enough, they have went and given everyone a 95 mbappe for free over this weekend as well as another juiced female card

[Waffdon]

Nep’s latest video :D

Thank god CoD is good this year

[Yevrah]

:D

That crafting upgrade set and Ballon d'or SBC are a genuine disgrace.

[SincereTheRebel]

Not being able to complete evo in champs is annoying. I would rather play champs only.

[Raoul Duke]

New season seems...pretty good?

Some kinda "Icon Swaps" but not Icons, some other players + tokens to be earned/exchanged

[Danny]

Seen a few tweets today on it. Some of tokens look worth keeping. Never mind a shitty icon pack :lol:

[Raoul Duke]

Casemiro SBC out too, Danny :nodd: (he looks a bit meh)

[Waffdon]

Yeah it looks good. Sadly I binned my players and coins off to my brother.

Gameplay is still dog shit mind

[Danny]

Casemiro SBC out too, Danny :nodd: (he looks a bit meh)

Long ball pass. Have they seen him try one?

[Danny]

Casemiro SBC out too, Danny :nodd: (he looks a bit meh)

Cavani out for 24 hrs.

Edit: I still dont have the game but the BF content is the first real tempter.

[Raoul Duke]

Cheap as chips too. Insane what a bit of competition can do

[Raoul Duke]

Everyone abandoning the game and saying it is dogshit, seems to have encouraged our pals in Vancouver to extract a digit: https://trello.com/c/yEbJLuE5/497-pc-ps4-ps5-xb1-xbsxs-switch-first-frost-update-title-update-6

[Yevrah]

They'll need to do a lot more than that. Some decent and grindable packs in the SBC section along with decently priced SBC's would be a start.

Oh and I called it early so may be stubbornly sticking to that view, but Rush needs firing into the Sun.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im still playing it purely for the evo's but they have limited how high they can go now, which is silly.

I still feel, the emergence of youtube and the 'meta' has ruined ALL online gaming experiences.

[Danny]

Apparently the store pick pack (75k or 500fp) is giving out a disproportionate amount of Ronaldinho

[Yevrah]

Has everyone binned this off now? I’m still watching Nep’s content for the lols but it basically looks about as shit as it could be in every aspect. Appalling evo’s, massively overpriced SBC’s, no menu grind to speak of. Etc.

[Raoul Duke]

I got back into it for a little bit after a break and have been playing some more over the last couple of days. The new gameplay patch has improved things a bit but the fodder levels are still shite. They gave everyone a Jude Bellingham card, for some reason.

[Yevrah]

Just logged on to get Bellingham and was staggered how cumbersome the menus are. Everything takes an unnecessary amount of time and don’t get me started on what they’ve done to player picks.

Did a few SBC’s, felt my brain bleeding out of my ears and canned it.

[SincereTheRebel]

I havent played since the start of the month, but I will give it another go over the next few weeks. I played last night and the gameplay felt good. I was twisting up people with left stick and it felt great. Have another go at the Wolves Evo

[Gray Fox]

I've been playing the Madden version of Ultimate Team this year. I'm much less competitive at it than FUT, but am enjoying it all the same.

The glitches are just as hilarious though. For example there is a glitch in-game that means if you have a left handed quarterback and he tries to run to the left after he gets the ball, he gets a bad animation that slows him right down. Well they have just released a special card of perhaps the most famous leftie QB(Michael Vick) and instead of fixing the mentioned bug, they've just made him right handed for reasons.

They are currently doing a nice winter promo though. For December you can earn a separate currency in game and you have a choice whether you use that currency to buy/upgrade select players now, or use them to buy "presents" that are mystery and only open on christmas day.

[Danny]

I never bought it.

I did dabble on the web app early on and expected to be booted from that ages ago. Bounce in and out of Neps vids. Did start messing with the app again around Black Friday when they did the daily log in to see what it was all about.

Not enough to entice me to the game but I might just mess around off and on until TOTS and see how good a team I can build without the game.

[Danny]

Speaking of Nep, his FUTMAS video was great.

FUTMAS used to be the best.

[Danny]

I havent played since the start of the month, but I will give it another go over the next few weeks. I played last night and the gameplay felt good. I was twisting up people with left stick and it felt great. Have another go at the Wolves Evo

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There you go.

[SincereTheRebel]

1870597124670345589

There you go.

https://i.ibb.co/fGgCbxJ/fgdfgdf.png (https://imgbb.com/)

[Danny]

:drool:

So in doing daily fun I packed WW De Jong.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ffs. I have spent 50k coins on cosmetics for my evo and its glitch on the team screen. Half the time it shows the original green design

[Danny]

Not enough to entice me to the game but I might just mess around off and on until TOTS and see how good a team I can build without the game.

Web app was fun over Xmas/WW but they nuked web app access without buying the game. Doing the trial didn’t unlock it. Shame. Was fun messing around on there with pale tools

[SincereTheRebel]

There are a few Wolves players with Dynmaic images that are pulling me back in.

https://www.fut.gg/players/242641-rayan-ait-nouri/25-67351505/
https://www.fut.gg/players/238756-jorgen-strand-larsen/25-50570404/

[Danny]

The Neto SBC looks good too. Not sure if he is dead to your because he left :lol:

[SincereTheRebel]

Any past and present gold Wolves player will do. The database for them is tiny. Its pretty much the current Wolves squad plus all portuguese players who are not called Ronaldo.