Euro 2024: The Knockouts

[niko_cee]

Germany absolutely seething they equalised against Switzerland now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shite.

Comes off, goal. Same as last time. He’s detrimental.

Your eyes are worse than DS'.

[Lewis]

I know people always say tournament football is about winning.

If England win this whole thing playing like we are, I'll take zero pleasure in it. Maybe that'll change if we somehow win it, but fuck me, I'm not enjoying this one iota.

Bender.

[randomlegend]

I know people always say tournament football is about winning.

If England win this whole thing playing like we are, I'll take zero pleasure in it. Maybe that'll change if we somehow win it, but fuck me, I'm not enjoying this one iota.

Explicitly remember being torn to shreds on here for saying this about Southgate however many tournaments ago.

[Magic]

I've seen more enjoyable Cartel execution videos.

[Boydy]

Kane offers less to England than Ronaldo does to Portugal. At least Ronaldo got into some decent positions last night even if he did fuck them up.

[Pepe]

Switzerland is so bad. This should've been 4-0.

[Pepe]

Kane offers less to England than Ronaldo does to Portugal. At least Ronaldo got into some decent positions last night even if he did fuck them up.

Kane helps on defense, which is the most important thing a striker can do.

[John Arne]

Get Gordon on for Foden and just take on that right back. He'll be off with his next foul.

[Manc]

Toney has to come on for penalties.

[John Arne]

Is Gareth even aware that we have 3 subs left. Do something.

[Danny]

Is Gareth even aware that we have 3 subs left. Do something.

Saving them for penalties, obviously.

[niko_cee]

We've already got most of our penalty takers on, only possible change will be a last minute Toney introduction.

[phonics]

Eze is so far above Mainoo. Proper baller.

[Magic]

Penalties and all the blacks miss, shouldering the blame for Southgate to stay on.

[niko_cee]

Kane's shithousing is second to none. World class.

[Magic]

Southgate injuring Kane. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Southgate taking out Kane :D

[niko_cee]

Has he taken Kane off there because Deschamps took Mbappe off yesterday?

[Spikey M]

Is Toney allowed to move around in the box like that?

[Magic]

France v England final. :drool:

[Cord]

I genuinely don't think we've been trying to score a goal apart from the brief period after their goal until we equalised. And then immediately stopped again.

[Spikey M]

I genuinely don't think we've been trying to score a goal apart from the brief period after their goal until we equalised. And then immediately stopped again.

It certainly looks that way.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Swiss look so shit in and around the box.

[Spikey M]

Once again... where the fuck is Luke Shaw? Completely open on the left again.

[niko_cee]

Here comes the guy who is going to miss a penalty.

[Yevrah]

At least Sir Gareth is giving these poor fucks some time on the pitch before they have to take a penalty, unlike that shit show previously.

[Waffdon]

Shaqiri is 100000% missing a penalty if it gets there. Wouldnt trust xhaka either. Would imagine there other 3 takers are their centre halves who will probably score.

Would be funny if Palmer and Toney missed with their recordsb

[John Arne]

TAA to score from the halfway line.

[niko_cee]

Foden has always been an excellent penalty taker, as has Kane. Guess you just have to trust the process at this point. :sick:

[Spikey M]

Making them retake a throw for being too far up the pitch when it was thrown back into our own half anyway. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jesus fuck.

[Yevrah]

Foden has always been an excellent penalty taker, as has Kane. Guess you just have to trust the process at this point. :sick:

Kane has absolutely not always been an excellent penalty taker, he's bottled it more than once in big games for England.

[7om]

Why doesn’t Shaqiri play more minutes?

[Spikey M]

We are very, very lucky that they can't finish.

[Yevrah]

We are very, very lucky that they can't finish.

Yeah, they've created far more than we have.

[Waffdon]

The battle of the hobbits in goal. Please oh please, Sommer

[Yevrah]

It can't be overstated how bad we were in that game. Again. If I hear anyone say how it's harsh or unlucky to lose on penalties should we lose this shootout...

[niko_cee]

Kane has absolutely not always been an excellent penalty taker, he's bottled it more than once in big games for England.

Has he?

I'd rather have someone who takes them every week for their club personally.

[Spikey M]

The battle of the hobbits in goal. Please oh please, Sommer

We'd suffer more staying in. You're not thinking logically.

[Yevrah]

Has he?

I'd rather have someone who takes them every week for their club personally.

Off the top of my head, at least twice. France in the QF and Denmark in the semi-final. Both of which were abysmal.

[7om]

Palmer will miss.

[Lofty]

Playing Under Pressure :D

[Magic]

I'm expecting some horrendous Swiss penalties, going by their finishing tonight. Miss all of them?

[Pepe]

I hope that everyone misses.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Palmer will miss.

It's 99% of his game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A CB first? :\

[Spikey M]

I'm expecting some horrendous Swiss penalties, going by their finishing tonight. Miss all of them?

I don't know, France couldn't hit a barn door last night, then nailed every pen.

[Lewis]

Imagine getting psyched out by that spastic.

[Spikey M]

Lol

[randomlegend]

Dreadful penalty

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is a shocking penalty.

[Magic]

:D

That was horrific.

[Yevrah]

That was a dreadful, dreadful penalty. So bad Pickford should have caught it.

[Pepe]

The fuck is that 'shot'?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's over ffs.

[Yevrah]

That boy. :drool:

[Lewis]

Proper tragic scenes on ITV at the minute.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Saka to miss again...

[Spikey M]

Thank fuck Saka didn't miss.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He took so long that I was sure it wasn't hitting the target.

[Yevrah]

Biggest smile from me all day when Saka scored that. Fair play to him.

[Waffdon]

Sommer doesn’t look like he’ll be saving any. Grim

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Class penalty.

[Pepe]

Swiss keeper is dreadful.

[Yevrah]

Proper tragic scenes on ITV at the minute.

Are they basically doing a watch-a-long?

[Lewis]

Are they basically doing a watch-a-long?

No footage, so just the pundits clapping and a counter at the bottom.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was also class.

Not looking at the ball, barely any run up and right in the corner.

[Spikey M]

Toney :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck everything.

[Spikey M]

Here comes the guy who is going to miss a penalty.

Phew.

[Yevrah]

That was the best penalty shootout I've ever seen us take part in, and by a country mile as well.

Turkey beat Holland (which they will) and we're in the final.

[Lewis]

We should be celebrating that like United scabbing past Coventry in the FA Cup.

[Magic]

This is hilarious. Now wait for the gaslighting again.

[Boydy]

The commentators. :D

England shouldn't even be in a penalty shootout with fucking Switzerland.

[Waffdon]

This is Portugal’s 2016 win all over. Fuck me.

England are sorted if it goes to penalties. Having palmer and Toney is a cheat code and then you have guys like Bellingham who are mentality monsters.

[7om]

Southgate new four year contract.

[Spikey M]

This is hilarious. Now wait for the gaslighting again.

What are you talking about? Nerveless magnificence, that.

[Dark Soldier]

I fucking love Sir Gareth. Proper performance, every player yet again a hero. Three semi finals out if his four competitions. We are England.

Have it up you you septic cunts. Cheers Southgate Spikey's crying.

[Yevrah]

That is comfortably the best thing we've done all tournament, after yet another dogshit performance. :drool:

[Magic]

"performance to be proud of" lol.

[Foe]

Swiss really unlucky there, should’ve won that before pens. England pens so good though.

These pundits have definitely been given a script.

[Yevrah]

I didn't realise Ivan Toney took penalties like that. Absolutely remarkable.

[Pepe]

Pks not a lottery anymore :lol:

[niko_cee]

Superb penalties.

I guess that's the plan. Bring on the carnage in the next game so whoever we play is nobbled by suspensions.

[Shindig]

I've never known someone apply Alain Prost's 'do just enough' mentality to a team sport. I thought Sommer was going to be a hero there.

There goes the sweepstake. :moop:

[John Arne]

Bellingham cupping his ears to the England fans again, after another pretty shite performance. #TournamentFootball

[niko_cee]

Pks not a lottery anymore :lol:

Trick was not having David Batty et al taking them apparently. Revelation. The unstoppable shitfest rolls on.

[Lewis]

Alright get off the pitch we were shit.

[John Arne]

Also, Gordon must be suffering from some massive anxiety or he's the worst trainer in the world. No other reason not to bring him on during that ET.

[Pleb]

Because somehow about England.

[Spikey M]

What language is TAA talking?

[Pepe]

Alright get off the pitch we were shit.

You just beat the mighty Switzerland. Celebrations should continue for a week.

[Pepe]

What language is TAA talking?

:lol:

[Baz]

Mainoo bottling taking a pen. Shite.

[Dan]

Lots of loud, drunk lads delighted with a narrow victory over Switzerland on pens in the German bar I’m currently at.

I think they’re probably the target audience for Southgate.

[Yevrah]

It's just dawned on me that if France bore Spain to death we could actually win this. :D

[Waffdon]

we zijn allemaal Nederlanders - fuck de Engelsen

[Waffdon]

It's just dawned on me that if France bore Spain to death we could actually win this. :D

I think you’re suited if it’s Spain because their defence is dodgy. France are happy to be dull as fuck

[Lewis]

It's just dawned on me that if France bore Spain to death we could actually win this. :D

France will bore us to death. I would fancy us against Spain more.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I want Turkey to win as I've enjoyed them as a side more but the Dutch would surely have a better chance of derailing this insanely lucky England train.

[John Arne]

Biggest smile from me all day when Saka scored that. Fair play to him.

Ditto. Chuffed to bits for him.

[Yevrah]

You've both just watched Switzerland create chance after chance against us, right?

@ Waff and Lewis.

[Spikey M]

It's just dawned on me that if France bore Spain to death we could actually win this. :D

But at what cost? It would be the worst game of football in history.

[niko_cee]

Hardly chance after chance, although perhaps I wasn't paying enough attention, too busy getting ready to wing a pint into the air at any given moment.

1809655880050184352

:D

Superb.

[Yevrah]

But at what cost? It would be the worst game of football in history.

Every game we're involved in has been horrific, I can fight that no more than you.

[Lewis]

You've both just watched Switzerland create chance after chance against us, right?

@ Waff and Lewis.

We could create chances against them as well. France would just be like banging our head against a wall.

[Dan]

They played We Are The Champions in the pub after the shootout :D

[Yevrah]

We could create chances against them as well. France would just be like banging our head against a wall.

Are we watching the same tournament? We've created the square root of fuck all against Serbia, Denmark, Slovenia, Slovakia and Switzerland.

Given the circumstances, our best and only chance to win this is to shit our way to it, we wouldn't shit our way past Spain.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just tried to offer a Muslim woman my seat in the waiting room, won't be trying that again. Did we win?

[ScousePig]

It's just dawned on me that if France bore Spain to death we could actually win this. :D

Here we go.

[Baz]

Another disaster class from Gareth.

Palmer surely starts ahead of Foden in the semi. Anyone but Foden. Walker and Trippier both absolute toss as well. And another game with ten men while Kane was presumably in the stands swapping stickers or something.

[Magic]

Why are your media being so positive and cheery? That needs investigating.

[Spikey M]

Another disaster class from Gareth.

Palmer surely starts ahead of Foden in the semi. Anyone but Foden. Walker and Trippier both absolute toss as well. And another game with ten men while Kane was presumably in the stands swapping stickers or something.

Trippier is useless at left back, but atleast he stays in position. Shaw nearly cost us twice going walkabouts.

[Magic]

Lee Bixon going on about the pitches again...

[niko_cee]

Why are your media being so positive and cheery? That needs investigating.

Picture the scene. We/they are Keano Reeves and Southgate is Agent Smith giving us the inevitability speech as the train that is England winning the Euros hurtles towards us. Is acceptance the final stage of grief?

[Yevrah]

Here we go.

Here we go what?

[Spikey M]

Here we go what?

It's coming home.

[ScousePig]

Here we go what?

Trying to get an excuse in early in case England actually win the tournament.

[Yevrah]

It's coming home.

I assumed he was getting at that, which is confusing if he'd read any of my posts.

[Yevrah]

Trying to get an excuse in early in case England actually win the tournament.

What's the excuse?

[ScousePig]

What's the excuse?

Avoiding the best teams in the tournament, by the sounds of it.

[Gray Fox]

England have been shite but have kept themselves in it. They're now two games of Tournament Football away from glory with those games being against Turkey/Holland and then France/Spain. England should piss it in the Semi and would have a decent chance against either in the final, simply due to superior talent.

[Manc]

The BBC pundits at one end of the spectrum, TTH at the other. The true reflection of that performance lies somewhere in the middle.

[Magic]

England boss Gareth Southgate, speaking to BBC One: "I thought the players were brilliant, it is the best we have played. To come from behind and shown character and resilience we did... it isn't just about playing well.

Right. All the Reform voters are buzzing.

[Yevrah]

Avoiding the best teams in the tournament, by the sounds of it.

Not sure you understand what an excuse means or how to use the word properly in the context you were attempting to, but we absolutely have avoided the better teams in the tournament. Are you disputing that?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck it, Turkey are winning it all.

[Magic]

Lol this England France final is nailed on.

[Adramelch]

Deserved. Turkey have been by far the better side.

[Yevrah]

And there's Turkey taking the lead. I could have made a fortune in this tournament betting on favourable results for Sir Gareth.

[Pepe]

IT'S COMING HOME lol

[7om]

Will be interesting to see how much Guler plays for Madrid next year. He’s a proper talent.

[Waffdon]

At this point, it’s got to be admired. Imagine making a final facing Slovakia (AET), Switzerland (pens) and Turkey. Amazing

[ScousePig]

Not sure you understand what an excuse means or how to use the word properly in the context you were attempting to, but we absolutely have avoided the better teams in the tournament. Are you disputing that?

I'm explaining that you'll pull out any excuse possible to deride Southgate.

It's pretty basic stuff.

[Yevrah]

Turkey do look properly good so far in this game, but then so did Switzerland before they came up against us, so I'd expect a similar thing to happen if we meet.

[Shindig]

The BBC pundits at one end of the spectrum, TTH at the other. The true reflection of that performance lies somewhere in the middle.

I mean, the players are out there with a game plan. That seems to be trying to control the game and sneaking something. Being set up not to lose games rather than win them. As soon as we've went behind, we've looked to respond quickly and then reverted back to type.

[Yevrah]

I'm explaining that you'll pull out any excuse possible to deride Southgate.

It's pretty basic stuff.

Sure you don't mean FACHT rather than excuse?

[Pepe]

I'm explaining that you'll pull out any excuse possible to deride Southgate.

It's pretty basic stuff.

Excuses not needed, really. Just eyes.

[Yevrah]

And feel free to explain to me how what he's done in this tournament so far has been anything like good?

[Magic]

Turkey do look properly good so far in this game, but then so did Switzerland before they came up against us, so I'd expect a similar thing to happen if we meet.

Turkey are better than Switzerland. Also Montella.

[ScousePig]

Sure you don't mean FACHT rather than excuse?

I've heard there's rain forecast for mid week which will surely benefit Southgate and the England boys.

[Yevrah]

Turkey are better than Switzerland.

Yeah, but the same logic applies. The Dutch are a proper footballing nation, so there's a fair chance this is Turkey's final in their eyes as a result.

[Yevrah]

I've heard there's rain forecast for mid week which will surely benefit Southgate and the England boys.

So you don't think we've had a favourable draw? Or is it just that I annoy you?

[Pepe]

England should piss it in the Semi and would have a decent chance against either in the final, simply due to superior talent.

Is England really considered to have superior talent? I know they have Zidane and that Saka lad looks good too. Which of the other players is supposed to be some world class talent? Kane, I guess?

[Dark Soldier]

And feel free to explain to me how what he's done in this tournament so far has been anything like good?

Semi finals mate. Trimmed my pubes into the St George Cross fucking slurp it down ya.

[Yevrah]

Semi finals mate. Trimmed my pubes into the St George Cross fucking slurp it down ya.

We are in the semi-finals, yes. Third in four tournaments.

[niko_cee]

At this point, it’s got to be admired. Imagine making a final facing Slovakia (AET), Switzerland (pens) and Turkey. Amazing

Was just looking up their respective world rankings. 45, 19 and 42. Tremendous.

We've also managed to fashion fewer chances in both games so far, did we even create a single actual chance today [?], generally played like poo and now have the prospect of facing some zero tournament football hotheads in the semi.

Might even make two changes for the next game [Guehi and Shaw]. What a time to be alive.

[7om]

Pics or it didn’t happen

[Spikey M]

Yeah, but the same logic applies. The Dutch are a proper footballing nation, so there's a fair chance this is Turkey's final in their eyes as a result.

The Turks absolutely love Football, so I'm not sure I agree with this particular take. It's just a shame that Germany steal most of their top players.

[Pepe]

If France wins: Belgium, Portugal, Spain, England (!)
If Spain wins: Georgia, Germany, France, England (!)
If England wins: Slovenia, Switzerland, Turkey, Spain/France

Yeah, I'd say those look about the same.

[ScousePig]

Excuses not needed, really. Just eyes.

My eyes tell me that Southgate has had more relative success than any other English manager in pretty much all our lifetimes. So do the facts, ironically.

He's lacking in tactical nous, and struggles with team selection and substitutions. He's clearly not an elite manager in this regard. Yet he's been England boss for eight years for a reason, and it clearly seems the players, the dynamics, the day to day stuff in general is pretty good.

He's not a genius, but there's no balance with some people.

[Yevrah]

The Turks absolutely love Football, so I'm not sure I agree with this particular take. It's just a shame that Germany steal most of their top players.

You can love football as much as you like, what I'm getting at is that if Turkey win tonight they'll have beaten a proper footballing nation (as in they have a history of being good). I think people underestimate how hard it is to do that two games running when you're a less successful nation.

[Dark Soldier]

Its almost as if you can only play who you're drawn against. Madness. The other seeds in our side all shitting it after seeing our dominance, makes sense.

[igor_balis]

https://i.ibb.co/DVv6cWz/Screenshot-20240706-185800-X.jpg

It's not just us. :D

That is the "for you" section though.

[Pepe]

My eyes tell me that Southgate has had more relative success than any other English manager in pretty much all our lifetimes. So do the facts, ironically.

He's lacking in tactical nous, and struggles with team selection and substitutions. He's clearly not an elite manager in this regard. Yet he's been England boss for eight years for a reason, and it clearly seems the players, the dynamics, the day to day stuff in general is pretty good.

He's not a genius, but there's no balance with some people.

Some people want success (as in, reaching semifinals, apparently). Others would prefer entertainment. All that there is to understand, really. Yevrah wants to see their team play well. You are happy to see them reach a semifinal.

[niko_cee]

Before today's game:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRpTFMAXsAAITXM?format=jpg&name=900x900

:happycry:

Absolute filth. Probably even worse now after we clocked up 0.68 in 120 minutes today. Have it.

[Pepe]

Before today's game:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRpTFMAXsAAITXM?format=jpg&name=900x900

:happycry:

Absolute filth. Probably even worse now after we clocked up 0.68 in 120 minutes today. Have it.

:lol:

[Spikey M]

That is the "for you" section though.

I barely tweet and I don't follow anything Football related outside of Southend and a few local Journalists.

[Manc]

Worked wonders for Croatia.

[Pepe]

The other seeds in our side all shitting it after seeing our dominance, makes sense.

Good point. Dominating even off the pitch. Savage.

[Yevrah]

Some people want success (as in, reaching semifinals, apparently). Others would prefer entertainment. All that there is to understand, really. Yevrah wants to see their team play well. You are happy to see them reach a semifinal.

That's true, but I'm also saying he wouldn't have this tournament record without the incredibly fortunate draws he's got. I mean, just look at them (as you did). It's ridiculous.

[Pepe]

That's true, but I'm also saying he wouldn't have this tournament record without the incredibly fortunate draws he's got. I mean, just look at them (as you did). It's ridiculous.

I would be surprised if they did, but we can never know for sure, I guess.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The difference between Turkey and all the bland nations we have played to date is that they would be bang up for it and have a crack, which I don't think we'd cope with.

Holland too, probably.

[Yevrah]

He's lacking in tactical nous, and struggles with team selection and substitutions

Just three absolutely fundamental areas of the game then. :D

[ScousePig]

So you don't think we've had a favourable draw? Or is it just that I annoy you?

It's not that you annoy me personally, you're a top poster. But your approach to Southgate is indicative of a society that can only deal in absolutes, and the public shaming Southgate has to deal with is uncalled for and unnecessary.

He's a limited manager insofar that he lacks tactical nous and flexibility in comparison to the top managers today, but he has other qualities that don't get recognised. As I say it always comes back to balance, and it irks me when people don't show it.

Sunderland appointed Michael Beale in December and duly sacked him in February when he clearly wasn't up to it. We appointed Mike Dodds as interim head coach for a few months so we could sort a proper replacement in the summer. He did very poorly and now the majority of Sunderland fans have decided that he's absolutely useless and should be nowhere near our club, when in actual fact he has a very good reputation as a coach, and will probably continue to do a good job as coach in the future. But the pitchforks are out, and mob mentality rules.

[Yevrah]

I would be surprised if they did, but we can never know for sure, I guess.

The only one we didn't reach a semi in we got France in the quarters. Compared to Switzerland, Ukraine and Sweden in the others. Doesn't mean we'd know for sure I agree, but just wanted to leave it there in case people had forgot.

[ScousePig]

Some people want success (as in, reaching semifinals, apparently). Others would prefer entertainment. All that there is to understand, really. Yevrah wants to see their team play well. You are happy to see them reach a semifinal.

I couldn't give a shit mate, I've never really been fussed about England.

[Pepe]

Fair enough. You just care about poor managers and how rough they have it.

Care to list those other areas he excel at, by the way? Genuinely interested to know.

[ScousePig]

Just three absolutely fundamental areas of the game then. :D

Yes, but they're not the ONLY areas of the game.

[Yevrah]

Sunderland appointed Michael Beale in December and duly sacked him in February when he clearly wasn't up to it. We appointed Mike Dodds as interim head coach for a few months so we could sort a proper replacement in the summer. He did very poorly and now the majority of Sunderland fans have decided that he's absolutely useless and should be nowhere near our club, when in actual fact he has a very good reputation as a coach, and will probably continue to do a good job as coach in the future. But the pitchforks are out, and mob mentality rules.

Well yeah, that's just retarded. Steve McClaren shitting it up for England didn't make him a bad Assistant Manager and Gary Neville being a bad manager doesn't make him a bad pundit.

[randomlegend]

My eyes tell me that Southgate has had more relative success than any other English manager in pretty much all our lifetimes. So do the facts, ironically.

He's lacking in tactical nous, and struggles with team selection and substitutions. He's clearly not an elite manager in this regard. Yet he's been England boss for eight years for a reason, and it clearly seems the players, the dynamics, the day to day stuff in general is pretty good.

He's not a genius, but there's no balance with some people.

He's a fucking cretin and the England players have achieved what they have in spite of him. With an even half competent manager they'd have done better than they have.

[Magic]

Just nipped for fuel for tomorrow's trip and TalkSport absolutely fawning over Bouthgate.

"20 more years, 20 more years" - that's meant to be a Nixon quote from the Simpsons or Futurama.

[Yevrah]

The difference between Turkey and all the bland nations we have played to date is that they would be bang up for it and have a crack, which I don't think we'd cope with.

You say this, but look how Switzerland went from giving it a massive go against Italy to not against us. It's a huge mentality hurdle to get over, doing it twice in a row, particularly when the second time would see you reach the final of a major tournament.

I'm not saying it's a guarantee we'd win, but Sir Gareth's luck Gods will be ensuring it's Turkey rather than Holland as a result.

[ScousePig]

Well yeah, that's just retarded. Steve McClaren shitting it up for England didn't make him a bad Assistant Manager and Gary Neville being a bad manager doesn't make him a bad pundit.

It is indeed, but it's just the way. If you have a skill, fine, it might get recognised every now and then. But God help you if you have a flaw...

[Yevrah]

Yes, but they're not the ONLY areas of the game.

I get that, but it's like being a prostitute and struggling with oral, vaginal and anal.

[randomlegend]

I get that, but it's like being a prostitute and struggling with oral, vaginal and anal.

What a post, fucking hell :D

[niko_cee]

:lol:

[ScousePig]

Fair enough. You just care about poor managers and how rough they have it.

Care to list those other areas he excel at, by the way? Genuinely interested to know.

He seems to deal with controversy/the media pretty well, the dynamics of the squad seem strong, and he just appears to have led England pretty well off the pitch. On the pitch England look ponderous and imbalanced, yet to counter that the relative success has been good.

There's probably a slightly different role that would suit him to a tee. It's not all bad.

[Raoul Duke]

If you can't be good, be lucky.

If nothing else (aside from actually competing at every tournament since being appointed), overcoming the mental roadblock of penalties is a gigantic sea change in English football.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I get that, but it's like being a prostitute and struggling with oral, vaginal and anal.

She must make no money at all :(

Think of her children.

[Pleb]

Southgate new four year contract.

Two actually.

[ScousePig]

I get that, but it's like being a prostitute and struggling with oral, vaginal and anal.

No because that suggests he's poor at every aspect of being a manager, which doesn't appear to be the case.

Also lol.

[phonics]

It’s a bit cold, this games shit and the pub has just put on a Dolly Parton cover artist singer who’s bad. But I do have a pint of madri, the heart of espana. So it’s not all bad.

[niko_cee]

I would dispute the existence of 'relative success' in short-format / knock-out tournaments.

Success is winning. Part of that can be taking advantage of favourable situations that may arise, but in the end losing against what little meaningful opposition you face every time after embracing the pragmatic approach that England have isn't really success in my eyes. Hence the need to finally get over the line.

[Baz]

Yeah England have no right losing a penalty shootout for a while. There is at least four first-choice takers for their respective clubs, plus Trent, Watkins and a few others who aren’t shy for one. If Pickford saves one, England likely win the shootout.

[Shindig]

If you can't be good, be lucky.

If nothing else (aside from actually competing at every tournament since being appointed), overcoming the mental roadblock of penalties is a gigantic sea change in English football.

That and our heads don't drop when going behind.

[Pepe]

She could give mean handjobs.

Maybe this comparison is better than we initially thought.

[Adramelch]

You say this, but look how Switzerland went from giving it a massive go against Italy to not against us.

You're being a bit harsh on them I think. Yes they were passive in the first half but overall they definitely gave it a good go against you. Also while I understand your comparison between England and Italy, it should be noted that Italy are almost completely devoid of talent and you aren't, so that bit of extra caution was warranted.

[Yevrah]

Handjobs and general companionship. Maybe that's what Sir Gareth is doing.

[Magic]

She could give mean handjobs.

Maybe this comparison is better than we initially thought.

It would be a 93rd minute substitute after failed penetration.

[phonics]

Did trossard get knocked out and decide to take up the ref job?

[Jimmy Floyd]

This style of play is completely reliant on moments like Saka's finish or Bellingham's against Slovakia. You're taking a punt that at some point, divine intervention, in the form of individual talent, will be enough. It doesn't give the team a chance to actually play well.

[ScousePig]

I would dispute the existence of 'relative success' in short-format / knock-out tournaments.

Success is winning. Part of that can be taking advantage of favourable situations that may arise, but in the end losing against what little meaningful opposition you face every time after embracing the pragmatic approach that England have isn't really success in my eyes. Hence the need to finally get over the line.

By 'relative' I'm comparing him to other England managers. Even if Southgate has been lucky with the favourable draws, it's not really his fault is it?

He's done what most English managers tend to do: beat the shite and come a cropper against a fellow 'giant'. Just Southgate's taken his England sides deeper into the tournaments.

[ScousePig]

She could give mean handjobs.

Maybe this comparison is better than we initially thought.

Tit wanks, foot jobs, erm, armpit sex.

Southgate might be a legend of the unorthodox.

[ScousePig]

This style of play is completely reliant on moments like Saka's finish or Bellingham's against Slovakia. You're taking a punt that at some point, divine intervention, in the form of individual talent, will be enough. It doesn't give the team a chance to actually play well.

That was pretty much Mike Dodds' approach with Sunderland actually. Everyone keep it as simple as possible so as to eliminate mistakes, and get the ball to Jack Clarke.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cracking header.

[ScousePig]

I'll tell you someone who does annoy me - Seb Hutchinson.

[7om]

The Netherlands are really capable of playing some good stuff when they step up a gear.

[niko_cee]

I worry that there are a few too many household names in this Holland side for us. It'll be like that Nations League semi where we should have battered them and somehow ended up losing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can't see Turkey coming back now.

[Yevrah]

This was not in Sir Gareth's script, something has gone awry.

Still, proper game on Wednesday. :drool:

[Adramelch]

Turkish defence in absolute shambles in the last 5 minutes.

[7om]

Goat Weghorst has been great since he came on.

[niko_cee]

Apart from that retarded attempt at a volley.

[Magic]

Bontella bottling it.

[Adramelch]

He's been a game-changer in all their games to be frank. Well apart from the one against France but everybody sucked in that game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wow, should have been the leveller there.

[Pepe]

Oooh Turkey.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a save, fucking hell.

[Boydy]

Could we not have an extra half hour of this?

[Baz]

Heads have gone. Gonna be some stabbing tonight.

[Baz]

:kebab:

[Dark Soldier]

Streets of Istanbul absolutely buzzing tonight cos Turkey gave it a good go.

[Yevrah]

Streets of Istanbul absolutely buzzing tonight cos Turkey gave it a good go.

But premature given we have to play their victors next.

[niko_cee]

Southgate's Waterloo.

[Spikey M]

I get that, but it's like being a prostitute and struggling with oral, vaginal and anal.

:D

[Spikey M]

Nice to see it's not just England fans doing the lame beer throwing celebration.

[SvN]

Glad the Dutch have got through. Proper semi final matchup.

[Waffdon]

Can’t believe something has gone wrong on Southgate’s PowerPoint presentation. I’m sure he has alternate scenarios in place

[Lewis]

I wonder how much Southgate has to do with 'squad dynamics'. The team are mostly fannies and our club sides barely have meaningful rivalries anymore, so they're hardly the don't talk to each other types to begin with.

[ScousePig]

Here we go.

[Yevrah]

One thing I don't think is getting enough credit is that penalty shoot out, we were absolutely flawless and Sommer got nowhere near any of them.

The first time I can say that watching England.

[Pepe]

Bielsa's boys. :cool:

[John Arne]

Bye bye Brazil. Bye bye.

[Giggles]

England are definitely going to Greece this.

[SincereTheRebel]

I like the camera angle for these shootouts used in the euros and cooa. Directly behind the player with the goal the width of the camera lens

[Shindig]

I don't know how we're going to keep Gakpo quiet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really hope that Wout starts.

[Baz]

I don't know how we're going to keep Gakpo quiet.Ask Klopp for tips.

[ScousePig]

I like the camera angle for these shootouts used in the euros and cooa. Directly behind the player with the goal the width of the camera lens

I hate it.

[Adramelch]

England are definitely going to Greece this.

I beg your pardon, we played Portugal (twice), Spain, France and the Czechs, who were the favorites to win the trophy at the time. It's not comparable.

[Ben]

Come on here this morning and had ten pages of this thread to get through. Vintage TTH with all the seethe and lols. Good stuff lads.

[Giggles]

I beg your pardon, we played Portugal (twice), Spain, France and the Czechs, who were the favorites to win the trophy at the time. It's not comparable.

I mean in the sense of shitting their way to the trophy. Though whoever wins it will have done that anyway it's been such a poor quality tournament.

[Adramelch]

Spain have been pretty good. And that's with Morata leading their line which makes it all the more impressive.

[Shindig]

Yeah, I'd have Spain and Netherlands as the two watchable sides left.

[Foe]

It blows my mind how many elite clubs morata has played for and transfered for not insignificant sums.

Some of my IRL friends lost their shit when I told them morata was bang average. They couldn’t believe I’d have havertz over him, and I don’t rate havertz as a striker. I’d be disappointed if arsenal signed morata.

[Foe]

They also thought I was drunk when I said ronaldo wouldn’t get in arsenals team.

The man is clearly past it for elite level football.

[Waffdon]

At this point Morata is underrated, even if he was part of massive money laundering schemes.

[Adramelch]

I don't think he's horrible and he's probably their best option, it's just sad to go from Raul and Morientes to Villa and Torres and then end up with Morata and Joselu.

[Kikó]

It's their own fault for killing the concept of a centre forward with the wank tiki taki football.

[ScousePig]

Come on here this morning and had ten pages of this thread to get through. Vintage TTH with all the seethe and lols. Good stuff lads.

Just for reference, my other frequented forum has 187 pages and over 4,000 posts for the England game last night alone.

There's two Southgate threads totaling around 1,000 posts, a Pickford thread with 300 posts, a Saka thread, a 'walked out last night' thread in three figures, a 'BBC pundits under a diktat' thread... I could go on.

Try wading through all that!

[Foe]

I don't think he's horrible and he's probably their best option, it's just sad to go from Raul and Morientes to Villa and Torres and then end up with Morata and Joselu.

Yeah. He might be their best striker (is he even better than dani olmo?) but he’s not a patch on previous Spanish strikers.

[ScousePig]

Whenever I see Morata trying to gee up his fellow Spaniards like some kind of leader/warrior, I just think he looks cute and out of place.

[Bam]

Just for reference, my other frequented forum has 187 pages and over 4,000 posts for the England game last night alone.

There's two Southgate threads totaling around 1,000 posts, a Pickford thread with 300 posts, a Saka thread, a 'walked out last night' thread in three figures, a 'BBC pundits under a diktat' thread... I could go on.

Try wading through all that!


Sounds like a right Karen.

[ScousePig]

Sounds like a right Karen.

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/walked-out-last-night.1636378/

Great fun.

[Bam]

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/walked-out-last-night.1636378/

Great fun.

Dear Points of View,

Why oh why oh why….


:D

[randomlegend]

https://i.imgur.com/h1F1uP6.jpeg

This is amazing from the Brazil game last night. He played 90 minutes :D

[Adramelch]

Successful backpass in the midfield so he clear has what it takes to be a world class modern midfielder.

[Magic]

That's like Fred's heat map of touches in the massive German defeat just being the kick offs after conceding.

[randomlegend]

Successful backpass in the midfield so he clear has what it takes to be a world class modern midfielder.

That was the kick-off.