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-james-
05-07-2024, 11:17 PM
My main TAKE on penalties is that, as of now, any club that does not have a guy that can do the multiple stutter thing that is apparently legal is not a serious club.
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 12:25 AM
I would like some statistics on the two types of penalty. Haaland doesn't do the silly run and misses very few, no?
My feeling would be that it doesn't improve the conversion rate of good takers by much, but it probably has a significant effect on the ones that aren't that good, but then again, almost all the defenders (who you'd think are not as good as the main takers) seem to just do a straight run and always hit the corners.
SincereTheRebel
06-07-2024, 05:36 AM
Your either good at taking penalties or good at saving them. Ollie Watkins has less than a 50% conversion rate compared to Palmer who has 100%. Its no lottery.
Jimmy Floyd
06-07-2024, 07:22 AM
The real gains would be if you could teach someone to reliably take a no-backlift penalty, or to be able to run up straight and it be unpredictable whether they're going to take with their right or left foot. The stutter run-up can be dealt with if the keeper learns just to wait for the planted foot and then go.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 07:34 AM
I would like some statistics on the two types of penalty. Haaland doesn't do the silly run and misses very few, no?
My feeling would be that it doesn't improve the conversion rate of good takers by much, but it probably has a significant effect on the ones that aren't that good, but then again, almost all the defenders (who you'd think are not as good as the main takers) seem to just do a straight run and always hit the corners.
Haaland definitely does some sort of stutter at times
Luke Emia
06-07-2024, 07:56 AM
Trippier at right wing back. At this stage he must have something on Sir Gareth.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 08:16 AM
What does lottery mean in this context?
The only way it makes sense would be in that it is unpredictable as to who is going to win, rather than on an individual level it being complete chance as to whether you score or not, but I doubt that was the intended meaning.
But then Rio also said England could win the Euros 'playing ugly' which seemed to misunderstand the difference between having a plan to play a destructive/unambitious game, and doing it well, and just playing shite and getting lucky.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/05/euro-2024-england-gareth-southate-successful-manager-failure
Jimmy Floyd
06-07-2024, 09:20 AM
People just know a wet blanket when they see one.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 09:34 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/05/euro-2024-england-gareth-southate-successful-manager-failure
His hairline is further up the pitch than our striker.
https://i.ibb.co/3161QvQ/Screenshot-20240706-103514-Brave.jpg
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 09:39 AM
The Southgate Paradox is no such thing, he has managed like any other England manager, generally losing to the first decent knock out opponent faced. He's just managed to have 6 or 7 knock out games against dross in the expanded format era, and not botched a qualification because it is almost entirely impossible to do that now [props to Italy]. His is a binary situation, either he wins this tournament, and we all have to accept that it worked and he was right, albeit in a begrudging Didier Deschamps sort of way, or he doesn't, and he is adjudged a total failure by all. No middle ground.
How many times have England been knocked out by a pissant nation? Just Iceland other than the odd group aberration, which is now impossible? It has always been Argentina/Germany/Portugal/Italy/Brazil/France.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 10:27 AM
Trippier at right wing back. At this stage he must have something on Sir Gareth.
I've just woken up and that has ruined my day. What in the actual fuck.
randomlegend
06-07-2024, 10:34 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/05/euro-2024-england-gareth-southate-successful-manager-failure
He created an environment in which players could flourish
Flourish? The fuck has this Mr Burns cunt been watching?
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 10:35 AM
That article is actual propaganda.
Trent should fake an illness and come home.
Gray Fox
06-07-2024, 10:38 AM
Sir Gareth changing his system up to accommodate attacking wing backs, only to not use the best one on the planet is some going. Knighthood guaranteed.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 10:45 AM
When you think he can't do anything worse, he does. It's genuinely unbelievable.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 10:46 AM
Trent should fake an illness and come home.
Fuck faking an illness, he should just call absolute bullshit on the whole thing publicly and fuck it right off.
Gray Fox
06-07-2024, 10:46 AM
It is however extremely on brand for him.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 10:47 AM
I'm not even English and I'm angry at that.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 10:49 AM
It is however extremely on brand for him.
It is and I think I'm also annoyed with myself for not realising that he'd do it as it's bloody obvious when you think about it.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 10:51 AM
When Dan Ndoye sends England out :drool:
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 10:52 AM
We are losing tonight.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 10:57 AM
We are losing tonight.
There's very little rationale for what I'm about to say (other than Switzerland already having had their scalp, which isn't much on its own) but I don't think we are. However, if we do, I think I'd like us to get the humping we truly deserve so it's as hard as it possibly can be for anyone to paint this tournament as anything other than the absolute disgrace it has been. Reach a semi-final and that's much harder to do and thought pieces like that absolute arse from Ronay will be everywhere.
"Well, we did reach a semi-final, how often did England do that before Sir Gareth?"
:mad:
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 11:03 AM
Sir Gareth changing his system up to accommodate attacking wing backs, only to not use the best one on the planet is some going. Knighthood guaranteed.
Reece James hasn’t been called up bro
Gray Fox
06-07-2024, 11:07 AM
Reece isnt even the best James.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 11:18 AM
He’s probably the closest England have had to having the best player in the world in a position since Ashley Cole. Shame he’s got no hamstrings.
Giggles
06-07-2024, 11:25 AM
You don't lose to teams like Switzerland.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 11:29 AM
You don't lose to teams like Switzerland.
Iceland springs to mind.
Shindig
06-07-2024, 11:31 AM
I think he picks Trippier for the free kicks. That's about Southgate's level of thinking. Even if that was the case, I'd pick Trent. Hell, I'd give Saka a run there before the square peg. Give Kane the armband and get on with it.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 11:35 AM
He picks Trippier because he's more defensive, he can't help himself.
Giggles
06-07-2024, 11:35 AM
Iceland springs to mind.
Generally then - that was a freak result. Just like the last round and Slovakia, Switzerland wouldn't have the minerals to see it through when faced with a big team.
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 11:38 AM
They eliminated France and then got Spain to penalties in the previous Euro.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 11:39 AM
He’s probably the closest England have had to having the best player in the world in a position since Ashley Cole. Shame he’s got no hamstrings.
Hamstrings, unfortunately, being somewhat central to the playing of football.
James is a good player and all but you can't really be considered the best in the world if you literally never play.
Alexander-Arnold wouldn't be some magical panacea as a wing back anyway, seeing as the rest of the team will be entirely static. The problems run deeper than the respective shapes of pegs and holes. Not least since this entire presumptive system seems to rely on a player who has played as a right winger/right forward for his club for many seasons being the left wing back. :cab:
Still going to worm our way through today in all likelihood, and then again against whichever shell of a side we face in the semis. The final could be where the Yevdemption defeat to end all things comes but it's unconscionable to want that, other than in some perverse you never get what you really want with this England side sort of way.
Magic
06-07-2024, 11:40 AM
Choking for England to shit their way to the final and lose 1-0 so Gdawg gets an 8 year contract extension @ 7m Euros p/a.
In higher-level-tournament news, Canada beat Venezuela to make it to the Semis. Canada being the best Concacaf team is something I did not expect to see.
Shindig
06-07-2024, 12:03 PM
Alexander-Arnold wouldn't be some magical panacea as a wing back anyway, seeing as the rest of the team will be entirely static. The problems run deeper than the respective shapes of pegs and holes. Not least since this entire presumptive system seems to rely on a player who has played as a right winger/right forward for his club for many seasons being the left wing back. :cab:
Aye, it's troubling that just every pass is sideways and laborious. There's no directness, no movement. We have the players to do that but it's like we're scared of daring.
I'm looking through Southgate's games in charge at the moment. I don't know why but I assumed we had more confidence at the start of his tenure. Turns out that was bollocks. The real confidence didn't start until the 2020 Qualifiers where we scored for fun against the Balkans. We did beat Italy twice in qualifying for this tournament, at least.
Honestly, see it all laid out is very schizophrenic. We've been free-scoring, we've been tentative cowards. We've beaten the likes of Spain, Italy and Germany but we've also been humbled by Hungary twice.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 12:05 PM
Hamstrings, unfortunately, being somewhat central to the playing of football.
James is a good player and all but you can't really be considered the best in the world if you literally never play.
Alexander-Arnold wouldn't be some magical panacea as a wing back anyway, seeing as the rest of the team will be entirely static. The problems run deeper than the respective shapes of pegs and holes. Not least since this entire presumptive system seems to rely on a player who has played as a right winger/right forward for his club for many seasons being the left wing back. :cab:
Still going to worm our way through today in all likelihood, and then again against whichever shell of a side we face in the semis. The final could be where the Yevdemption defeat to end all things comes but it's unconscionable to want that, other than in some perverse you never get what you really want with this England side sort of way.
Gallagher isn’t better than Kante because the former is always fit. Shite logic. James is a better player than anyone who plays right back. Not up for debate. Case closed.
James even played centre mid (something ‘Trent’ can’t do) in his first professional season as a footballer and was the best player in the league. Levels
Luke Emia
06-07-2024, 01:28 PM
Gallagher isn’t better than Kante because the former is always fit. Shite logic. James is a better player than anyone who plays right back. Not up for debate. Case closed.
James even played centre mid (something ‘Trent’ can’t do) in his first professional season as a footballer and was the best player in the league. Levels
Funny. I watched him play football a few times last season when he was actually fit and he was dog shit. I don’t get this with James, he can barely put 15/20 games together where he is fit. That’s a massive part of being a footballer, you can be the new Messi but if you can’t get on the pitch you are of absolutely no fucking use. You say his first season as a professional was that in League One or the Championship?
ScousePig
06-07-2024, 01:44 PM
The Southgate Paradox is no such thing, he has managed like any other England manager, generally losing to the first decent knock out opponent faced. He's just managed to have 6 or 7 knock out games against dross in the expanded format era, and not botched a qualification because it is almost entirely impossible to do that now [props to Italy]. His is a binary situation, either he wins this tournament, and we all have to accept that it worked and he was right, albeit in a begrudging Didier Deschamps sort of way, or he doesn't, and he is adjudged a total failure by all. No middle ground.
How many times have England been knocked out by a pissant nation? Just Iceland other than the odd group aberration, which is now impossible? It has always been Argentina/Germany/Portugal/Italy/Brazil/France.
You seem to have described society in general. All or nothing, success or failure, win or lose.
There's no room for middle ground or balance.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 02:03 PM
3-0. Tripper x 2, Kane.
Lewis
06-07-2024, 02:23 PM
We usually get one comfortable performance per tournament, so this will probably be it.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 02:32 PM
Funny. I watched him play football a few times last season when he was actually fit and he was dog shit. I don’t get this with James, he can barely put 15/20 games together where he is fit. That’s a massive part of being a footballer, you can be the new Messi but if you can’t get on the pitch you are of absolutely no fucking use. You say his first season as a professional was that in League One or the Championship?
You’re a Liverpool fan and voting conservative your whole life. Fuck up
Luke Emia
06-07-2024, 02:36 PM
You’re a Liverpool fan and voting conservative your whole life. Fuck up
And you’re a sniffhead and a Dundee United fan.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 02:39 PM
Chelsea Fan. I don't know about the sniff.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 02:39 PM
‘Sniffhead’ :D
Oh la la
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 02:50 PM
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John Arne
06-07-2024, 02:52 PM
I'm struggling here. 7hrs on a sleeper bus last night, 8hrs on a train tomorrow. I'm knackered and kick off is 11pm local. I ain't seeing this through.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 02:53 PM
Evolution not revolution.
We'd really better not get played off the pitch by the fucking Swiss. The jocks got a draw so I'm quietly confident they are terrible.
Magic
06-07-2024, 02:54 PM
I thought he was drastically changing it?
The front four of Saka, Bellingham, Foden and Kane have been absolutely tragic so far. So of course he sticks with them again. Wanker.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 02:58 PM
It's alright, he's going to play one of them at leftback.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 02:58 PM
Southgate is the real sniffhead.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 02:59 PM
I thought he was drastically changing it?
One player a game, that's the rule.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 03:01 PM
At this stage I'm not sure I've disliked anybody more than Southgate and I'm including serial killers in that - at least they knew what they were doing.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 03:06 PM
Why is Phil Foden out chatting to the media 55 minutes before kick-off?
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 03:07 PM
Quite, can you imagine a proper manager sanctioning that shit?
ScousePig
06-07-2024, 03:08 PM
He had a hair out of place too. Southgate's lost the dressing room.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 03:11 PM
Those stats. :D
Ferdinand is such an idiot.
Luke Emia
06-07-2024, 03:13 PM
I thought he was drastically changing it?
He has. For him.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 03:16 PM
This interview.
:drool:
I really hope he's trolled everyone and they line-up the same way as the previous 4 games. No need to tinker with a winning formula.
Magic
06-07-2024, 03:23 PM
Has anyone said NO DISRESPECT to Switzerland yet?
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 03:24 PM
It did dawn on me that that could just as easily be the same horrific formation and line-up. :D
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 03:24 PM
Yeah, Southgate at length in his press conference yesterday, but in a way that tried to make England fans seem entitled and to blame for the team being shit.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 03:29 PM
The beer throwing phenomenon is worse than the hooliganism of the 1980s.
The beer throwing phenomenon is worse than the hooliganism of the 1980s.
Paddy Power did a good ad about it.
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They tend to have good ads in general.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 03:53 PM
I have a rising sense of dread that we're going to get absolutely gubbed here.
Dark Soldier
06-07-2024, 03:55 PM
Can't see shit lads but we're gonna walk this. Bought some beer in just to throw at the dog if we score. It's coming home.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 03:57 PM
Come on then, England.
Easy 1-0 from a set piece, no worries.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 03:58 PM
I have a rising sense of dread that we're going to get absolutely gubbed here.
Nah, honestly think it’ll be similar to when you gubbed Ukraine in the last euros at same stage. Comfortable 2/3 goal win.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 03:59 PM
4-1 Switzerland.
Seeing you lot seethe is a big part of the enjoyment I get from these tournaments, so I hope England shits their way through just to extend the suffering.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:01 PM
Nah, honestly think it’ll be similar to when you gubbed Ukraine in the last euros at same stage. Comfortable 2/3 goal win.
Yeah. 1-2-3 in the F1, Andy Murray denied a swan song at Wimbledon, easy win here, all coming up England.
Oh god Trippier is still on the left.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 04:01 PM
Trippier LWB?
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 04:01 PM
Are we playing Trippier on the left still? :D
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 04:04 PM
Are we playing Trippier on the left still? :D
Atleast Foden isn't playing on the left too. Small mercies.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 04:04 PM
I'm already preferring this shape.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:09 PM
I'm already preferring this shape.
So are Switzerland, obviously.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 04:12 PM
Just me or are refs positioning themselves much more centrally nowadays, and thus, getting in the fucking way all the time.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 04:14 PM
Trippier playing over there is driving me fucking mad.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 04:16 PM
A low bar, but this is miles better so far. The players actually look like footballers.
Just me or are refs positioning themselves much more centrally nowadays, and thus, getting in the fucking way all the time.
Refereeing is more important than the game.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:17 PM
Kane is such a cheating bastard.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 04:17 PM
I shit myself every time a ball is played back to Pickford. He's gonna fuck up before too long.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:18 PM
Switzerland playing as if they have been practising penalties.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 04:21 PM
Why did Kane just stand and watch Saka cross it there?
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 04:21 PM
A touch of the Ronaldo about Kane. Get Toney on at half time.
SincereTheRebel
06-07-2024, 04:22 PM
How tiny is Sommer in the net?
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 04:23 PM
Swiss look like they’re getting nose bleeds. QF is about their level most tournaments. Hopefully the Dutch look good later
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 04:24 PM
Kane :D
Dropping to DM position already
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:26 PM
This is actually more boring. At least the last few England games there was the lol factor.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 04:29 PM
That ball wasn’t even close to being my out for a throw in
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:29 PM
Saka being the main threat is great but if we ever score from one of these sorties down the right it's going to be chalked off as he looks offside every time.
SincereTheRebel
06-07-2024, 04:29 PM
That Saka roll where he plants his right foot and backs into left back and spins him with his backside. Seems difficult to stop and you know its coming.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 04:30 PM
Corner all the way back to the keeper. :D
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 04:30 PM
That corner :drool:
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:31 PM
We're past the decent 15-20 minute spell. Now back to the lolfest.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 04:33 PM
Mainoo is absolutely mustard.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:33 PM
That handball. :D
Jimmy Floyd
06-07-2024, 04:34 PM
I've had to take someone to A&E so currently sat for ages in a sterile, fun-free environment surrounded by miserable people, IT'S A BIT LIKE WATCHING ENGLAND.
But seriously, put some entertaining posts in the thread at least pls.
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 04:34 PM
England's aversion to playing through balls is quite something.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 04:35 PM
The Swiss don't look like they believe they can beat us - given how rancid we've been in this tournament so far it's staggering the level of respect we still get.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:36 PM
Zidane getting frustrated at his shit team mates.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 04:37 PM
Watkins for Kane.
I've had to take someone to A&E so currently sat for ages in a sterile, fun-free environment surrounded by miserable people, IT'S A BIT LIKE WATCHING ENGLAND.
But seriously, put some entertaining posts in the thread at least pls.
They don't have the football on? Wild.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:38 PM
38 minutes no shots on target for either team. Get me to A&E with Jim.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:39 PM
They don't have the football on? Wild.
They want the patients to survive.
randomlegend
06-07-2024, 04:39 PM
They don't have the football on? Wild.
The NHS can barely afford basic medical equipment, nonetheless fucking TVs in the waiting rooms.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 04:40 PM
England's aversion to playing through balls is quite something.
What would be the point? No one makes runs for them.
Bernanke
06-07-2024, 04:40 PM
This is dull as fuck gents.
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 04:41 PM
What would be the point? No one makes runs for them.
Comment was after that break from Mainoo where it felt like he had options for the through ball for once and he just cut it back to Trippier for a shitty cross instead.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:43 PM
Yevrah please post.
randomlegend
06-07-2024, 04:43 PM
My wife - who never watches football - has just said to me: "this might be a stupid question but why are they just passing it to each other and standing still? Surely they need to move around?"
Well, quite.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 04:44 PM
Kyle Walker can fuck off. Every pass is backwards. Cunt.
This is fucking horrendous. Much worse than France-Portugal, which at the time seemed impossible.
Shindig
06-07-2024, 04:45 PM
Even the ref's sick of this. :D
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 04:46 PM
Fuck off, Rio. Fuck right off.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:47 PM
The Swiss don't look like they believe they can beat us - given how rancid we've been in this tournament so far it's staggering the level of respect we still get.
Yeah, they are clearly OVERAWED by the occasion, so hopefully we can avoid fucking up and giving them a goal.
Whoever loses this game is going to regret being so passive.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 04:47 PM
Are the panel watching a different game?
Former defenders should be banned from both commentary and managing.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 04:47 PM
Well, that was basically what Rio Ferdinand thought he was watching previously when he said we can win the tournament playing like this.
I disagree, but I guess it's progress at least, even if it is fucking horrible to watch.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:48 PM
This is what we've been waiting for!
:D
No shots on target for them.
Yeah, ok, we've not had any either, but that's not the point.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 04:48 PM
Are the panel watching a different game?
It's garbage, but it is at least functional garbage, compared to whatever the fuck we were doing in the first four games.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:49 PM
Are the panel watching a different game?
Southgate has mindgamed them into these views. They fear being to blame for their negativity.
This is dull as fuck gents.
Where the fuck have you been?
Southgate has got the pundits creaming themselves over a change of formation and zero shots on target. Maybe he’s a genius.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:51 PM
Southgate has got the pundits creaming themselves over a change of formation and zero shots on target. Maybe he’s a genius.
Set your own bar so low you can't help but improve. Don't we all do that in employment?
Luke Emia
06-07-2024, 04:52 PM
It’s better than Slovakia. But, that’s like saying you’ve got a favourite flavour of shit sandwich.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:53 PM
This is fucking horrendous. Much worse than France-Portugal, which at the time seemed impossible.
Difference there was that was more of a by design shitfest. This is just two poor sides being very passive.
Magic
06-07-2024, 04:53 PM
Pipe down Tory Scouser.
Lewis
06-07-2024, 04:55 PM
You would think we were coasting listening to these whammers.
Both of these teams would agree to go to PKs right now.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 04:55 PM
This is just gaslighting at this stage.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 04:56 PM
Both of these teams would agree to go to PKs right now.
Southgate wouldn't. The entire gameplan, and it's been this way for years now, is to play like this and hope the talent in the team produces a moment to nick the winner.
This commentary is even more embarrassing than the performance on the pitch.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 04:56 PM
You would think we were coasting listening to these whammers.
This is just gaslighting at this stage.
:D
It's absolutely amazing.
The post mortem if we accidentally let them win is going to be next level.
Saka is 100% getting brought down in the area. Hopefully it's late enough that Toney is on the pitch.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 04:57 PM
I don't know what some of you were watching in previous tournaments when you were giving me shit for saying we should get rid of Southgate back then. This is what we do under him and it's been that way for ages.
Southgate won’t make his first sub until the 87th minute with us playing this well.
Talking about the great performance as 'shots on target 0-0' appears on the screen :D
Jimmy Floyd
06-07-2024, 04:59 PM
There's clearly been a very clear instruction from the FA/Southgate about pundits not being negative.
Glad it’s not just me confused whether I was watching the same game as the pundits. Saka and mainoo aside England don’t seem to have much threat.
Swiss have played some really nice balls through the lines, and embolo been really close to spinning and being through. Pretty cagey, but I don’t think England are dominating this like the pundits seem to think they are.
There's clearly been a very clear instruction from the FA/Southgate about pundits not being negative.
This is exactly what my thoughts were.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 05:03 PM
Switzerland are actually worse than us, which is something.
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 05:03 PM
I have to say Akanji's positioning has been consistently top notch in this tournament.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:05 PM
Swiss have been a disgrace here. No idea why they were so positive against Italy but negative here
Switzerland are actually worse than us, which is something.
Proper 'small team lucky to be here' display so far.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:06 PM
Swiss have been a disgrace here. No idea why they were so positive against England but negative here
It's down to what I was saying earlier in the thread, they've had their final win vs. Italy. Anything beyond that is a bonus.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:07 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, a shot on target finally.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:11 PM
Not sure Fabian Rieder has touched the ball for Switzerland
That’s twice embolo has scuffed chances and allowed the commentators to claim great defending from konsa.
Xhaka not been great here.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:14 PM
England back on top?
This is like praising a spastic vegetable for not drooling and shitting their pants simultaneously.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:15 PM
They're 100% going to score.
Let's go Switzerland. :drool:
There’s another. Scuffed through ball, otherwise Swiss guy is right in on goal.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:16 PM
Two of the worst corners you'll ever see and still didn't end up back at the keeper.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:17 PM
Not sure Fabian Rieder has touched the ball for Switzerland
There he is, taking two of the worst corners you’ll ever see
Boydy
06-07-2024, 05:17 PM
Can no one take a decent corner these days?
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:19 PM
And now we're back to playing like Cholera again.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:20 PM
And now we're back to playing like Cholera again.
That's the little peak terminal cancer patients have just before they die.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 05:20 PM
This is dire.
Jimmy Floyd
06-07-2024, 05:20 PM
There are people here arguing with doctors when they are called in to be seen. We are finished.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:20 PM
No idea why the Swiss manager doesn’t seem to rate Duah
And now we're back to playing like Cholera again.
Luring them in. Big brain move.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 05:21 PM
This is going to extra time because it's too eye-bleedingly shite to be over in 90 minutes.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 05:21 PM
Ok, so Switzerland are taking off the players who haven't been playing very well. How novel.
Ok, so Switzerland are taking off the players who haven't been playing very well. How novel.
Everyone is playing great for England. Micah Richards said so.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:23 PM
On the plus side, we're now into the stage where Southgate refuses to make substitutions, despite us dying on the pitch. I really enjoy this bit.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 05:23 PM
Slap it up ye, Harry.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 05:24 PM
Oh my god, just hit a fucking shot.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:24 PM
Kane dropping to CB now :drool:
Luke Emia
06-07-2024, 05:25 PM
70 minutes no shots on target and no attacking subs. Coupled with Harry Kane defending the edge of his box in open play.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:25 PM
Not sure why Sir Gareth was upset about not having Kalvin Philips, Harry Kane is great in the role.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 05:25 PM
Mainoo our best player again. Look forward to seeing him subbed off for TAA in minute 73.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 05:26 PM
Everyone is playing great for England. Micah Richards said so.
If ain't broke, don't fix it.
randomlegend
06-07-2024, 05:30 PM
I want to gouge my fucking eyes out. I HATE GARETH SOUTHGATE SO FUCKING MUCH.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:30 PM
EMBOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :drool:
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:30 PM
Lmao. Absolute perfection.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 05:30 PM
Loooooooooooooool
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:30 PM
Lol
Lofty
06-07-2024, 05:30 PM
Lol
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:30 PM
Well, I for one, am shocked.
Gray Fox
06-07-2024, 05:31 PM
Bring on the seethe.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:31 PM
Oooops
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 05:31 PM
It turns out the way to get a goal is by attacking.
That’s been coming, even if the commentators did want to see it.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:32 PM
I hope still 0 shots on target at FT to see what the panel say.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:32 PM
I've never said this watching England before, but I don't want us to score. I've had enough of this now and we need to go home today.
I hope still 0 shots on target at FT to see what the panel say.
Please :drool:
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:33 PM
Swiss are gonna do an England and drop ridiculously deep. Hopefully can score on break as their forwards are rapid
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:33 PM
Fat Boy Shaw coming on.
Swiss are in trouble.
Agree with Yevrah. Hopefully no extra time.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:33 PM
Mainoo coming off, lol.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:34 PM
Mainoo our best player again. Look forward to seeing him subbed off for TAA in minute 73.
Lol.
LOL Bellingham too. Shaking his head. :D
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:34 PM
Bellingham :harold:
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:34 PM
3 substitutions after we're 1-0 down, which was coming for 20 minutes. :D
Get Rio, Micah and Lineker on the screen and see if they still think we’re hot shit.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:34 PM
Main character Jude was offended at that thought of being hooked there
Lewis
06-07-2024, 05:35 PM
Bellingham obviously knew the substitutions. Theory CONFIRMED.
randomlegend
06-07-2024, 05:35 PM
I've never said this watching England before, but I don't want us to score. I've had enough of this now and we need to go home today.
Same.
Who would we play if we win? The next best option would we go through and then get raped about 8-0 by Spain.
Boydy
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
Who actually went off and came on there in the end?
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
Main character Jude was offended at that thought of being hooked there
After his goal against Slovakia I think he deserves to have that attitude, even if he's been consistently shit throughout.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
Southgate VINDICATED as Shaw is fit.
Bellingham obviously knew the substitutions. Theory CONFIRMED.
:cool:
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
Nooooo back to extra time.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
Completely undeserved but :drool:
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
Fuck.
What a fucking hit. :drool:
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
That was lovely, but so unbelievably undeserved. :D
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
No less than England deserve after this outstanding display.
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:36 PM
For fuck sake. Another fluke. These bastards are never going out
Shindig
06-07-2024, 05:37 PM
Again, we wait until a deficit to kick it up a gear. :D
Lovely shot.
Southgate :cool:
He’ll bring defenders on as subs now
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:37 PM
I'm just annoyed now. We have players that can do that shit yet we play like this.
Dark Soldier
06-07-2024, 05:37 PM
Never in doubt you absolute sloppy, misanthropic, boring fucks. We're fucking England.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:38 PM
1 shot, 1 goal. Deadly.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:39 PM
1 shot, 1 goal. Deadly.
Just like the last round...
These jammy fucks.
Masterclass in efficiency.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:41 PM
Another goal please. I don't care what end. Anything but extra time.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:42 PM
Another goal please. I don't care what end. Anything but extra time.
"Make it stop." :D
Adramelch
06-07-2024, 05:45 PM
The moment Southgate makes changes England grab an equalizer. What more proof do you lot need of his genius?
Stupid Swiss completely bottling this.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:48 PM
That was a glorious chance.
Shearer dropping innuendos all over the place.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:48 PM
That should be 2-1. Where the fuck was Shaw?
Waffdon
06-07-2024, 05:48 PM
Swiss can barely hit a ball correctly. Only reason they scored as well.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:49 PM
Fucking noooo. Another horrendous 30 minutes.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 05:49 PM
That header.
:D
We are the unflushable turd of this. Not going away.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:49 PM
Half hour more lads. Dig deep. And I don't mean the players.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:50 PM
Wow they've 100% been told to praise like fuck. Crazy analysis.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 05:51 PM
What does Kane have to (not) do in order to get subbed? He offers absolutely nothing.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:51 PM
"This is what you want". "Rollercoaster of emotions"
FUCK OFF.
Rio is a paid agent of the FA.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:51 PM
Foden off, Toney on.
Yevrah
06-07-2024, 05:52 PM
I'd love to know what that absolute tool is saying to the players.
niko_cee
06-07-2024, 05:52 PM
1 shot, 1 goal. Deadly.
Have we scored from every effort on target in the knock outs so far?
:cool:
Maybe the whole thing?
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-07-2024, 05:52 PM
Wow they've 100% been told to praise like fuck. Crazy analysis.
Praising Southgate for being brave with his subs now :D
Good tournament football requires going to extra time each game, so you can practice good tournament football more.
John Arne
06-07-2024, 05:53 PM
I know people always say tournament football is about winning.
If England win this whole thing playing like we are, I'll take zero pleasure in it. Maybe that'll change if we somehow win it, but fuck me, I'm not enjoying this one iota.
Magic
06-07-2024, 05:54 PM
If the manager was foreign he'd be getting slaughtered right now.
Spikey M
06-07-2024, 05:58 PM
https://i.ibb.co/DVv6cWz/Screenshot-20240706-185800-X.jpg
It's not just us. :D
Mainoo is absolutely mustard.
Shite.
Comes off, goal. Same as last time. He’s detrimental.
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