Euro 2024: The Knockouts

[Spoonsky]

He is you know

There are no words

[Dark Soldier]

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[Adramelch]

Yeah as much as Ronaldo deserves all the ridicule, it was a great save from Oblak.

[7om]

DS :D

caps

[Magic]

Lmao is he suicidal now?

[Yevrah]

What scenes. Please go to penalties.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Holy fuck I've got a semi.

[-james-]

As if he's fucking sobbing

[Spoonsky]

Messi winning the World Cup has completely broken him, hasn't it?

[7om]

I think we’re witnessing a bloke coming to terms with the fact that he’s past it.

[Dan]

That was everything I could have hoped for.

[Spoonsky]

If Ilicic scores the winner here it's the best match of all time.

(https://talksport.com/football/1898754/josip-ilicic-mental-health-retirement-slovenia-euro-2024/)

[-james-]

Proper manager would've had Bruno on pens as well

[Lewis]

Holy fuck I've got a semi.

Ten points and a ban please.

[Pepe]

It was not that well taken, come on. Either top corner or bottom corner. Middle height is the worst.

[Adramelch]

Roberto Martinez with two subs in 105 minutes is quite something.

[Magic]

If Ilicic scores the winner here it's the best match of all time.

(https://talksport.com/football/1898754/josip-ilicic-mental-health-retirement-slovenia-euro-2024/)

Swapping places with Ronny.

[Pepe]

Incredible player, but I love to see him seethe/cry.

[Adramelch]

It was not that well taken, come on. Either top corner or bottom corner. Middle height is the worst.

It's not a great penalty but I'd argue it's good enough that most keepers get a touch on it and it still goes in.

[Spoonsky]

Was the camerawork really weird before the penalty for anyone else as well?

[Pepe]

It's not a great penalty but it's good enough that I'd argue most keepers get a touch on it and it still goes in.

I agree, the save was great, but whoever is on commentary was saying that it was a very well taken penalty.

EDIT: Just realized my stream is American lol.

[Adramelch]

Ronaldo to score his penalty only to be negated by a Bernardo Silva failed panenka.

[Dark Soldier]

Ronaldo lining up for the free kick

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sesko you donkey.

[Spoonsky]

Nooooo

[Danny]

Sesko is actually a donkey

[Adramelch]

Sesko has been utterly disappointing all tournament, other than like one shot that hit the post in the groups.

[randomlegend]

Sesko is absolute dog shit.

[7om]

What the fuck is this game

[Pepe]

How can you miss that?

[randomlegend]

That fucking volley :D

[Lewis]

Two absolutely toilet games today fucking hell. Bring back Golden Goal.

[Yevrah]

:drool:

[Spoonsky]

Would you even let Ronaldo take one here? He's a broken man ffs.

[Spoonsky]

Two absolutely toilet games today fucking hell. Bring back Golden Goal.

The first game was horrible, but you'd have to be the board's biggest Ronaldo stan not to be enjoying thi.... oh.

[Bernanke]

Would you even let Ronaldo take one here? He's a broken man ffs.

What do you mean 'let'?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Would you even let Ronaldo take one here? He's a broken man ffs.

That shot of him just now, his head has gone.

[Luke Emia]

Would you even let Ronaldo take one here? He's a broken man ffs.

Well yeah I would. But, I’m a Liverpool fan who can’t stand him.

[Pepe]

Two absolutely toilet games today fucking hell. Bring back Golden Goal.

Were many scored? I remember it was always equally shit once they went to extra time.


Would you even let Ronaldo take one here? He's a broken man ffs.

As if anyone can prevent him.

[Spikey M]

"Misstiano Penaldo" :D

[randomlegend]

Misstiano Penaldo on the official BBC broadcast :lol:

[7om]

Not sure why Martinez didn’t bring on Pedro Neto. They were crying out for someone to play direct.

[Spikey M]

Bollocks

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a shit pen.

[Spoonsky]

Two people on suicide watch for missed pens tonight ffs.

[Shindig]

Would you even let Ronaldo take one here? He's a broken man ffs.

Would you have the bottle to tell him no?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck, it's done.

[Yevrah]

Ok, that was immense.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Would you have the bottle to tell him no?

Bobby Martinez 100% would not.

[Lewis]

That BOTTLE. :cool:

[Spikey M]

Doesn't count as a goal though, does it you giraffe cunt

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck sake.

[Pepe]

Exact same SHIT PENALTY as Ronaldo.

[niko_cee]

Slovenia sending up all their left footed takers like they've never watched a penalty shoot out in all of human history.

[Lofty]

Slolvenia.

[Yevrah]

That BOTTLE. :cool:

Yeah, crazy levels of it. When he did that step I thought oh no, but he knew.

[Lewis]

Fucking love Bruno Fernandes the tramp.

[Lewis]

lmao

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Diogo Costa is too good.

[Boydy]

Fuck's sake, Slovenia.

[Pepe]

If you are going to play for penalties you should at least have the decency to be good at them.

[niko_cee]

You would have thought they might have practiced these seeing as this was their plan to go through.

[Danny]

“Are you England in disguise?”

[Shindig]

A Tim Krul masterclass.

[-james-]

I don't think I've ever seen a shoot-out done after three rounds

[Spikey M]

All that effort to completely shit the bed when it matters

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking SEETHING.

[Dark Soldier]

All that wanking off of Oblak pre-shootout and Costa has donned it.

[Magic]

Immense from Costa.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sesko is a proper cunt.

[Yevrah]

This Slovenia team had no business going any further so all's well that ends well.

[7om]

If Martinez was any kind of manager he’d reflect on how stunted Portugal’s attack was tonight. He won’t though, and theyll play the exact same shite in the next round. Ronaldo should probably be in therapy with how he’s lost his composure completely.

[niko_cee]

Sesko should have hit that one-on-one straight away. Easy chip, just got to hit the target from 30 yards.

I reckon most players would benefit from the Rashford shot clock rule being enforced on them.

[-james-]

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[Baz]

France - Portugal is going to be an all time stinkout based on this evening.

It should just go straight to pens and save us all the two hour shit-off.

[niko_cee]

Personally I want to see Mbappe running against Pepe.

[Pepe]

It should just go straight to pens and save us all the two hour shit-off.


There should be an option for both teams to agree to go straight into pks at the start of the match. Would save us hours of this garbage.

I bet they would both sign.

[Manc]

I don't think I've ever seen a shoot-out done after three rounds

I have a memory of van der Sar saving all three penalties in a Community Shield game. Could be wrong.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The famously shit Switzerland-Ukraine game at 2006 was 3-0 on pens. Think the latter won it and then got smoked by Italy in the quarter finals.

[igor_balis]

The famously shit Switzerland-Ukraine game at 2006 was 3-0 on pens. Think the latter won it and then got smoked by Italy in the quarter finals.

Yeah we signed the Swiss keeper off the back of him not conceding a goal all tournament. He was shit.


Also, Ronaldo - a lot of people say he's still class cus he can score however many goals a season, but is it ludicrous to think that if you dragged, let's say 40 year old robin van persie, out of retirement and built your entire team around him, your team would be pretty clunky and not really do very well, but RVP would still bang in about 25 league goals?

[igor_balis]

Like a lot of Portuguese fans say Ronaldo deserved to be picked cus he scored like 8 in qualifying, but I'm not convinced that really means anything. I reckon jermain defoe could still manage a brace against the former yugoslav republic of macedonia and similar.

[Yevrah]

Ronaldo had he scored that penalty would have been an extreme example of the arguments against idiots saying Harry Kane is undroppable because he scored our winner. It's true, he did, but when you've someone that shit on the pitch for 120 minutes why aren't you even considering that we may not have had to resort to extra time/a shootout had someone better been on from the start.

Not helped in England's case by Sir Gareth ruining, well, everything.

[Lewis]

I have a memory of van der Sar saving all three penalties in a Community Shield game. Could be wrong.

2007 against Chelsea. Portsmouth missed three the year after but he only had to save one of them.

[Magic]

Yeah we signed the Swiss keeper off the back of him not conceding a goal all tournament. He was shit.


Also, Ronaldo - a lot of people say he's still class cus he can score however many goals a season, but is it ludicrous to think that if you dragged, let's say 40 year old robin van persie, out of retirement and built your entire team around him, your team would be pretty clunky and not really do very well, but RVP would still bang in about 25 league goals?

Except he's nowhere near the quality of Ronaldo, as much of a prick he is.

[Spikey M]

Ronaldo is nowhere near the quality of Ronaldo. Both him and Messi should have ended on a high about 3 years ago.

[Shindig]

Ronaldo's just Gazza with a gym membership. Once football is out of his life, he'll be completely off the rails.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Ronaldo is nowhere near the quality of Ronaldo. Both him and Messi should have ended on a high about 3 years ago.

Both will continue forever, because other people desperately need the money from them doing so. They have their own economy kind of outwith the game of football itself.

[Manc]

This tournament is due an upset.

[Pleb]

Can someone wake up please?

[Adramelch]

No upsets to be found today. The Dutch have been quite bad so they're only really favorites by name.

[Pleb]

Finally :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bollocks.

Keeper should have done more.

[niko_cee]

How is Gakpo so prolific for Holland?

[Adramelch]

The stadium announcer pronouncing his name as Jakpo is a new one.

[Pleb]

Holland have woken up here.

[niko_cee]

Just hit it first time you fucking idiot.

[Waffdon]

How is Gakpo so prolific for Holland?

Some players are just dons in tournament football

[Manc]

Hard to believe as an Englishman that players actually embrace playing for thier country.

[niko_cee]

Next question is why does Hagi have a condom on his head?

[Pleb]

Head injury.

[John Arne]

This is the first time I've tuned into BBC coverage... Does Lineker always sound like someone has just murdered his mother?

[niko_cee]

I wouldn't be a fan of giving that, but that sort of handball is clearly a lot more 'deliberate' than the stupid UEFA interpretation that fucked the Danes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How did that not go in.

[Adramelch]

Dragus doesn't seem to understand that his shots can be blocked. He always shoots with like 3 players right in front of him.

[Pepe]

Seems offside.

[John Arne]

Double substitution whilst 1-0 up in the 68th minute. Are you watching, Gareth? #SomehowAboutEngland

[Magic]

Have the BIG TEAMS finally realised it's better to attack?

[John Arne]

Does the BBC commentator think that this game is taking place in Paris?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That pass by Malen was horrendous.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The ref gave a free kick for that? Fucking hell.

[Danny]

Simons has that Gabriel Jesus curse of always looking like he is about to cry.

[7om]

Is this actually the best the Netherlands has to offer in attack? How far they've fallen.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:face:

[Pepe]

That #3 defender is an idiot.

[Ben]

Netherlands are fodder. We will breeze past them after we dispatch the Swiss.

Although they’ll probably get done by Austria anyway.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Shoes on the pitch :D

[niko_cee]

I think I've seen Gakpo be involved in more goals in about 10 games for Holland as I have in a season and a half at Liverpool.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This is going to be a banger.

[Spikey M]

Austria? More like Lostria. Amirite?

[Lewis]

Why did the nearest Austrian defender move out of the way when the 'keeper scooped it out?

[Spikey M]

Almost Drawstria.

[phonics]

I was told by every hipster that Austria were the best team in this tournament.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You were probably told that they had played the best football this far. Which they had.

Only Spain have also been good, it's largely been a sea of shit.

[Adramelch]

If this stays at 1-0 and Turkey start hacking people, they'll be missing virtually every starter in the quarters.

[Bernanke]

Netherlands - Turkey will turn the big Dutch cities upside down. :drool:

[niko_cee]

Do either of these two sing songs about the Ottoman-Hapsburg Wars?

[Pleb]

Probably.

[Serj]

Now this is more like the Austria I know and love

[-james-]

I'm not quite sure about the nature of it but this Turkey team are going to have a moment of complete head loss at some point during this half.

[Adramelch]

Really good response from Austria in this second half.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Banging header.

[Magic]

Fuck sake. :(

[Manc]

This referee is brilliant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Game well on.

[Magic]

It's back on lads. :drool:

[niko_cee]

I'm not quite sure about the nature of it but this Turkey team are going to have a moment of complete head loss at some point during this half.

If they get through they'll end up with their entire team suspended for the semi after a war with Holland.

<Gareth Southgate Mr Burns Image>

[-james-]

I've been to Germany and I'm pretty sure whoever is collecting these cups will be able to exchange them for a Porsche in about an hour's time.

[Adramelch]

This Posch guy has been immense in the second half.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I feel a late equaliser.

[Adramelch]

He's offside so it wouldn't count anyway, but I'd immediately take him off for shooting instead of passing there. Horrendous.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is a stunning save.

[Adramelch]

What a fucking save.

[niko_cee]

What a save. Hadn't realised Mert was in goal for them.

[7om]

What a fucking save that is

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Quality game.

Shame Austria couldn't get the equaliser but that save was amazing.

[Lewis]

Thirty-five year old Besiktas 'keeper making saves like that is computer up the wall stuff on Football Manager.

[Manc]

Rolf Rangnick.

[-james-]

I'm not quite sure about the nature of it but this Turkey team are going to have a moment of complete head loss at some point during this half.

Or not :cool:

[Yevrah]

That was immense.

[Adramelch]

I expected at least some shithousery from them, but not only did they keep it civil, they barely did any timewasting.

[Magic]

Thirty-five year old Besiktas 'keeper making saves like that is computer up the wall stuff on Football Manager.

I agree, absolutely ridiculous.

[Serj]

Yeah, that was shit. I think Rangnick might actually have set this up the wrong way for the first half, with two DMs plus Arnautovic to start with. Then again, a goal in the first minute probably reshuffles things entirely whatever you do.

Really unsatisfying, as this Turkey team is evidently not up to much. What a save at the end though.

[Adramelch]

Arnautovic was a big negative specifically.

[Baz]

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[Adramelch]

Weird analysis that. Wouldn't the 0.06 also account for the header being off target too?

[Magic]

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More absolute dog shite from these statistic virgins. No context around his age, pressure, timing, everything. That was a once in a generation save.

[7om]

The people who invented xG should be imprisoned.

[Dan]

Weird analysis that. Wouldn't the 0.06 also account for the header being off target too?

This is xG On Target (aka post shot xG) rather than standard xG, so any shot that goes off target is excluded. I think it basically judges the type/location of the shot in relation to the GK.

The bit that intrigues me is potentially comparing xGOT against xG to assess the quality of a finish - if xGOT is higher than xG the shot is better than average, lower is worse. You could also measure the proportion of chances with ‘value added’ to judge consistency of good quality finishing, but then I’m playing FM attributeless so obviously this sort of thing is my bag (baby).

[Adramelch]

I see. The statement (and/or metric) and how it's worded still greatly understates how good a save it was mind you, but at least this makes more sense.

[niko_cee]

This is xG On Target (aka post shot xG) rather than standard xG, so any shot that goes off target is excluded. I think it basically judges the type/location of the shot in relation to the GK.

The bit that intrigues me is potentially comparing xGOT against xG to assess the quality of a finish - if xGOT is higher than xG the shot is better than average, lower is worse. You could also measure the proportion of chances with ‘value added’ to judge consistency of good quality finishing, but then I’m playing FM attributeless so obviously this sort of thing is my bag (baby).

Weirdly I was thinking about this today [sad], whilst the stats themselves are a bit rubbish, you can combine them to see how good your chance taking is - if xG is way higher than xGOT then your finishing is probably a bit shit, whereas if they are more even or even the other way you can legitimately claim to have been superkeepered.

On the subject, must be noted it was a bad day for PepG or xPep or whatever we are calling it today.

[Pepe]

Yes, BIG MATH exposed me. I concede defeat. I will never criticize xG again.

[Yevrah]

These Gareth Southgate AI vids are not bad.

https://youtube.com/shorts/bWraw3UkvOM?si=7GkvSd7PDmAp5RUP

[Manc]

Obsessed.

[John Arne]

Whispers of Sir Gareth switching to 5 at the back. I can't see it, personally though he does love his defenders.

https://gyazo.com/7c0e5026adaa499fb20c2109828f7cc4.jpeg

[Ben]

Might not be the worst thing as it'll mean Trippier is out and Walker is one of the three, giving us two attacking wing backs.

[niko_cee]

He did it to match up against Germany in the last Euros. Do Switzerland play 3/5 at the back?

Don't see it as being necessarily the worst idea in the world seeing as it's not like the players are currently adapting all that well to whatever it is they are being asked to do.

[Ben]

Yeah they do.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Should work well but I'd like to see Gallagher in place of Mainoo, and Phillips in place of Foden.

[Adramelch]

If you had Phillips you wouldn't have to resort to such tactical experiments to begin with.

[Yevrah]

I'd take that all day long over the Trippier/Foden left hand side horror show. Surely it's Foden behind Kane though?

[Yevrah]

You'd also imagine it would force Kane to be further forward, to stop him running into 4 other bodies continually if nothing else...

[Magic]

There was a gif that showed all the different formations and player positions over the course of the Slovakia game. Guy hasn't got a fucking scoob.

EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/ThreeLions/comments/1dtmesk/how_england_changed_formation_vs_slovakia/

[-james-]

People would be wanking themselves silly if Klopp did soemthing like that in a Champions League tie. It's pretty normal in a tie where loads of subs happen. Isn't one of the main criticisms of Southgate that he's too tactically rigid?

[niko_cee]

Other than Saka to leftback I'm not sure any of that actually happened anyway.

[Magic]

People would be wanking themselves silly if Klopp did soemthing like that in a Champions League tie. It's pretty normal in a tie where loads of subs happen. Isn't one of the main criticisms of Southgate that he's too tactically rigid?

Yes but only in the sense that he doesn't react at all to the opposition until the game actually starts.

[Baz]

Plus let’s not forget the fact that it worked.

[niko_cee]

Jude, Jude! Scored a bicycle kick!

I told him to do that.


Originally defender Luke Shaw had been due to face the media, but was replaced by Toney at the last minute as the left-back tries to regain fitness and face the Swiss for his first appearance at Euro 2024 after injury.

Not even fit enough for the press conference.

:face:

[Manc]

You know who would be perfect for international football? Dan Burn. All height and vibes.

[niko_cee]

Interesting of Foden to seemingly break ranks and acknowledge the unacknowledgable that England are, in fact, playing like absolute shite.


"There is only so much the manager can do. He sets you up in a system and tells you how to press. If it is not going like that, you have to [work it out].”

“So yes, we have spoken about it more. If it happens again in a game, we can get together and find a solution, see where it is going wrong and adapt our press.”

Going rogue? :sherlock:

[John Arne]

ETH signs a 2 year extension :drool:

[Yevrah]

Interesting of Foden to seemingly break ranks and acknowledge the unacknowledgable that England are, in fact, playing like absolute shite.



Going rogue? :sherlock:

My main takeaway from that is that Sir Gareth doesn't know how to organise a press.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

ETH signs a 2 year extension :drool:

Well technically it's a one year contract extension option which was triggered.

[niko_cee]

Has the much loved extra year ever not been a total disaster when exercised? I've warmed to Ten Haag though. Best man for the job.

[Pepe]

Come on Ecuadorian cunts.

[Pepe]

Took until the twentieth minute for Messi to get a touch on the ball. More finished than Ronaldo.

[Pepe]

Ecuador :cool:

They'll still lose it in the PKs I would guess. Argentina looking bang average.

[Danny]

They did their best to disallow that.

[John Arne]

Ecuador scoring a stoppage time equalizer because the Argentina player decided to fake an injury opening up the left hand side :D :D :D

[Pepe]

Ecuador scoring a stoppage time equalizer because the Argentina player decided to fake an injury opening up the left hand side :D :D :D

Serves them right.

[John Arne]

Indeed. If I was an Argie I would be losing my shit with him.... was it Tagliafico?

[Pepe]

Not sure who it was but he deserves the death penalty.

[John Arne]

I guess more likely the midfielder Gonzalez?

I've never seen a more relieved man than Enner Valencia.

Mon the ECUADOR!

[Pepe]

Regardless of what happens here, Argentina needs to find a way to get Messi to retire before the next World Cup if they want to get anywhere. He doesn't do anything.

[Pepe]

I've never seen a more relieved man than Enner Valencia.

Maybe Ronaldo last week.

[Pepe]

Messi :lol::lol::lol:

[Boydy]

Is Messi playing in the Euros?

[Pepe]

Not sure you can call that playing, but yes.

Emiliano Martinez is a savage.

[Yevrah]

Sir Gareth has been speaking.


"We showed great resilience and great character to keep going right until the end, and I think we deserved a draw in the 90 minutes," England manager Southgate told Uefa.

"When you get the goal so early in extra time, you're able to be in charge of things a little more.

It's no surprise but still incredibly jarring nonetheless that Gareth sees dropping deep for 28 minutes and conceding numerous half chances as "being in charge".

[John Arne]

Nearly choked on my pho for a second.

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[Adramelch]

That's some high quality trolling. :D

[Spikey M]

Wouldn't be surprised to be fair.

[niko_cee]

So I assume nothing has come of the Bellingham thing?

I see the Turkish guy is now in trouble for making a shadow puppet dog gesture, which is apparently ILLEGAL in Austria and France. :cab:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So I assume nothing has come of the Bellingham thing?

I see the Turkish guy is now in trouble for making a shadow puppet dog gesture, which is apparently ILLEGAL in Austria and France. :cab:

20k Euro fine for Bellingham.

Two game ban for the Turkish lad...

[Serj]

Think they're cracking down hard on "extreme" political messaging, they also gave that Albanian player a two-match ban for his charming Balkan-ethnic-cleansing chants.

Not sure if the symbol qualifies as the same kind of message, the Grey Wolves are absolute wackos though.

[Adramelch]

I don't really buy the "that's not what I meant" excuse though. The thought must have more than crossed his mind and he still went through with it.

[Baz]

In lieu of a July thread I’ll post this brilliant video here:

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't really buy the "that's not what I meant" excuse though. The thought must have more than crossed his mind and he still went through with it.

Should have used the "it's an inside joke with my mates" excuse.

[Yevrah]

Ally McCoist looks more and more like Alan Brazil every day, he should probably quit Talksport and sever ties with the big man for the good of his health.

[Gray Fox]

This Williams youth is surely on for a big move this or next summer too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pedri is made of glass.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This Williams youth is surely on for a big move this or next summer too.

Barca apparently.

[niko_cee]

Isn't he off this summer due to contract situation?

Not necessarily questioning Pedri here but players constantly just staying down to try and get the game stopped is becoming an ever increasing scourge.

[niko_cee]

Germans booting him out early doors, like the treatment Pele got in 1966. It's all lining up.

[Pepe]

They should let it run so teams get fucked like Argentina last night.

[Gray Fox]

I reckon he's done his knee ligaments, even if only a sprain, in that Kroos tackle. He should have been booked about 3 times already now too.

[randomlegend]

Pedri is made of glass.

That's what happens when your club has you play 100 first team games before you turn 9 years old (this post may contain exaggeration for dramatic effect).

[Adramelch]

Great touch by Olmo there, it looked almost certain that he wouldn't be getting to it in time.

[Pepe]

The fuck was that tackle? :lol:

[Pepe]

Wait a second, he is 16? Gtfo.

[niko_cee]

Has Yamal ever scored a direct free kick as a professional?

[Luke Emia]

Games are the wrong way round. Can guarantee that France - Portugal game is going to be eye bleedingly boring.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fullkrug buries that.

Get him and Wirtz on for Havertz and Same.

[Pepe]

I like this Spain squad. I hope they win it all.

[Pepe]

Players missing semifinals because of yellow cards is so shit. JohnArne

[Magic]

God these fouls are annoying.

[Adramelch]

I honestly don't mind, but it should be after 3 yellow cards.

Or maybe wipe them after the groups and 2 yellows (so one in the round of 16 and one in the quarters) gets you suspended for the semi. There should be some repercussions.

[Pepe]

I just don't think it stops anyone from 'technical fouling' yet it handicaps teams at almost random.

[Adramelch]

Yeah but the alternative is that yellows mean almost nothing and you have the Turks (and whoever else) getting 10 yellows per game. There needs to be a solution inbetween in my opinion.

[Pepe]

Yellows mean what they mean in any other competition: that you can not foul anymore in that match.

I definitely see your point, I just hate seeing players miss important matches because of what sometimes feel rather inconsequential.

[randomlegend]

Honestly think the technical fouls should be a straight red. If the rules are such that someone gets an advantage from deliberately breaking them then the punishment is insufficient.

[niko_cee]

Good luck accurately defining a technical foul for that purpose. Was Rodri's on Musiala just there a red?

[Lewis]

Gaizka Mendieta is a funny looking man. Something of Walter out the Muppet films about him.

[Adramelch]

Imagine if Spain had an actual striker.

[Pepe]

You have to finish that, come on.

[Manc]

Gaizka Mendieta is a funny looking man. Something of Walter out the Muppet films about him.

It's not quite Conte levels, but his hair resurgence is admirable.

[Adramelch]

Deserved that. They've been the ones that seem to have an actual intent to attack.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ffs.

[Pepe]

:cool:

That Olmo lad is shit hot. Might be my favorite current player.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fullkrug time \0/.

[Giggles]

Is Mendieta managing them now?

[Adramelch]

Nah they have a relative no-name that's been managing the youth teams for like the last 10 years or so.

[7om]

How is Kroos still on the field. He’s been dirty in this game.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can't believe they haven't hooked Kroos. He's been appalling and should have had at least three bookings.

EDIT: high five.

[-james-]

Spain are an absolute proper side.

[Pepe]

How is Kroos still on the field. He’s been dirty in this game.

Seems to be the only thing he can offer.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Spain are an absolute proper side.

Best in the tournament by a mile surely? Not a shred of Tournament Football to be seen.

[Pepe]

Spain are an absolute proper side.

They better get a second or this might get out of control.

[7om]

I also haven’t seen much of Morata since his Chelsea years. He hasn’t changed. He’s still shite.

[Pepe]

Spain playing actually skilled players. Unheard of.

Except for Morata :baz:

[Pepe]

That foul :lol: