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[Spikey M]

4 full/wingbacks :D

[Trancemeister]

This has potential to end 5-5

[John Arne]

Gil is such a bottler.

[Ben]

I expected Villa to be a bit more resolute than this. They’re not looking good at all yet and will probably need to score three to win.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Another 90 minutes of people sprinting in behind high lines and then botching cutbacks. How exciting.

[Ben]

The art of defending is lost.

[Ben]

VAR is a complete shambles. Took them three minutes to get to a decision the naked eye could see immediately.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Injury, offside, injury, VAR, offside, offside, injury. Fun sport, just endless enjoyment.

I think data tells you to push the margins of everything because that's where the 5% advantage is. Hamstrings, going into challenges, offside traps, drawing the press, everything.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was a lovely freekick into the box and a quality header.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Pau Torres is a bit of a personal weakness of mine, I must admit. Centre backs are meant to be at the opposite end of the looks spectrum.

[John Arne]

Pretty sure that halftime lasted about 30 minutes.

[Raoul Duke]

Pau Torres is a bit of a personal weakness of mine, I must admit. Centre backs are meant to be at the opposite end of the looks spectrum.

He's from the Jesus Navas school of slightly terrifying eyes

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Has Son been onside once this match?

[Gray Fox]

That seemed way too easy.

[-james-]

He looks like Lindelof and they both look a bit like Timothee Chalamet. Not sure if it's a new physiognomy but I can't think of anyone non contemporary with that face.

[Waffdon]

Villa have absolutely class options in midfield. Kamara and Luiz are both so good and then they’ve got McGinn and Tielemans as well bringing that depth up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mainoo starting :cool:

[Ben]

Assuming they’ve not been killed off by the points deduction, you’ve got to fancy Everton here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Assuming they’ve not been killed off by the points deduction, you’ve got to fancy Everton here.

Fuck your mother.

[Ben]

Have all these “intensive runs” killed off Spurs and Villa here? Might just be me but the game is in slow motion the last five minutes, everyone seems to be on their arse.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Has Son been onside once this match?

Seems not.

[Ben]

Son :lol:

[Trancemeister]

Son as fpl captain :moop:

[Waffdon]

Spurs will be lucky to be in the top 8 come Christmas. Lovely jubbly. Nico Jackson paying his transfer fee by derailing their season.

[Gray Fox]

Have all these “intensive runs” killed off Spurs and Villa here? Might just be me but the game is in slow motion the last five minutes, everyone seems to be on their arse.

I seem to recall this happening a lot to us during the first Klopp year.

I do reckon if we got to a point of stopping the clock when the ball goes out, this playstyle would be a lot more risky. There'd be a good extra 10-20 minutes of running in some games.

[Ben]

God help them by the end of January. It’s pretty non-stop until then. This will probably make the difference between Man City and the rest, what with Pep managing minutes since day one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If Everton don't like the Premier League they are quite welcome to fuck off and play somewhere else.

[John Arne]

Everton fans protesting by waving pink cards???

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It would be amazing if Everton appeal the points deduction, the FA suspended it whilst looking into it and then the deduction came in next season. Almost certain they'd get relegated next year with it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Holy fuck what a goal.

[Jimmy Floyd]

A goal steeped in corruption.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That just keeps getting better on replay.

That's one of the greatest overhead goals.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's the goal of the season by miles and won't be beaten.

[John Arne]

What a goal that is. Shame he celebrated like he did.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm sorry, this corrupt stuff is ending me. 40,000 odd people in there and not a single one appears to have a working brain. It's all about anger and grievance. Time to get rid of them for good.

[Gray Fox]

But they're really, really angry.

[ScousePig]

Jimmy 'man of the people' Floyd has spoken.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've never wanted Man U to win a game as much as this. Hopefully dump six or seven on them or whatever the humanitarian limit is before the poor little scouse women and children start getting battered this evening.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mainoo with a tremendous clearance there.

[Don]

This game is simmering nicely (as with most at Goodison Park). The atmosphere is gonna go ballistic if Everton get the next and with the likes of Garnacho, Shaw, Bruno, McT, cards aplenty :drool:

[Don]

Turning into quite the dicking, this.

[Ben]

Everton might not score if they have all week. Absolute domination until they have to shoot.

[Gray Fox]

Referee isn't helping with the crowd either.

[Ben]

How does Bruno the Rat get away with so much? I mean, all the referees must hate him so must be desperate to get him in the book but he always gets nine lives.

Today is possibly understandable because they probably don’t want to give Everton anything with all this seethe about but it’s seemingly every week.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is not a dive.

[Gray Fox]

Goodison is going to be lovely in about a minutes time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a cracking pen.

[Kikó]

Bruno the rat :harold:

[Ben]

If Everton don't like the Premier League they are quite welcome to fuck off and play somewhere else.

I do kind of get it. They’re first to get fisted and their seethe is preempting Man City and Chelsea getting cop out punishments of a fine and suspended points deduction. With Man City especially, as a neutral you just can’t see the Premier League having the bottle to fuck them off into farmers leagues, which given Everton’s transgression of overspending £19m, is about equal punishment.

And like you said earlier, the Premier League is becoming this monotonous sequence of injuries, VAR and offsides. Everton always give us enjoyment on the weekly: 4-4-2, seethe and self-destruction. Does any neutral want to replace them with another high press bore like Leicester? Not me.

[Kikó]

Rashford is comically bad at the moment.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mainoo with an excellent showing on his first start.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oi Ben, where you at bitch?

[Kikó]

United are back!

[niko_cee]

Everton look like they've got a bit of a rough run of games coming up, mostly at home too. Bring on the seethe.

Everyone also needs to be doing their patriotic duty and be dropping points to Luton every now and then.

[randomlegend]

My god that Garnacho goal was pure filth.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, it was something else.

lol at Dyche and his "doubt he'll do it next week" shade.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dyche only recognises set piece goals and those that burst the net from a yard out. Everything else you haven't worked hard enough for.

[Ben]

Dyche is just a bitter cunt. Still hasn't made peace with getting dumped out of the FA Cup semi finals in 1997 with Chesterfield after a refereeing error.

[niko_cee]

Apparently it's a 2 game ban for calling Anthony Taylor a bald cunt.

Obviously a truth based defence isn't applicable to that sort of thing.

[Waffdon]

I thought it was ‘he just called me a fucking bellend’ but lip reading was hard. Both equally justified

[thommo]

He knew he'd fucked up too. The way he put the hand up as an apology in a bid to get out of it whilst hastily retreating to the penalty area just smacked of guilt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

A more fitting punishment in the rotation era would be to force someone to play the full 90 minutes for the next, say, 10 games. Can't sub him off, and if he's not fit, unlucky, you've got to play with ten.

[niko_cee]

MotD didn't really give it much coverage, but on the couple of angles they did show I had no idea what the Forest penalty was actually given for.

The one given at the other end was equally shit, great decision Anthony, but at least you could sort of see what the foul might have been.

[Ben]

Who are we talking about? I'm guessing by the Forest reference it's Dunk?

[niko_cee]

Yeah, he's just been given a 2 game ban for the above [alleged] slur.

[Ben]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=245jaZa2xCc

[Clunge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EagQ-xV4_ho

Baaaaalllldddyyyyyy.

[SvN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=245jaZa2xCc

Throw the key away.

[Lewis]

Paddy McGuinness clinging on to his dusting of hair all these years later is incredible. He has the money for a transplant, and he would look alright bald; but he chooses the worst option.

[Don]

This Bellegarde is some dribbler. Great entertainment.

[Don]

Gary O'Neill must have defecated in Stockley Park's mother's mouth.

[thommo]

Some luck with that first penalty decision but the performance was much improved tonight. Still a big issue at striker but the rest of the team stepped up well.

Might be time to finally phase out Ream though, looked shaky all night and gave away a silly penalty.

[niko_cee]

Gary O'Neill must have defecated in Stockley Park's mother's mouth.

Runs deeper than him, Wolves as a club must have done something as they've been getting shafted ever since the shitshow started blighting our collective existence.

[Don]

The penalties were soft as shit but okay, you can argue for either but Fulham's favela rat getting away with a headbutt just because it was on some hardened gammon who didn't go down is disgraceful.

[thommo]

I think you describing it as a headbutt is more disgraceful. Vinicius is (always) unnecessarily aggressive but he doesn't butt him whatsoever, he just stands up.

[Don]

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I appreciate his legs are indeed activating the muscles which result in his rising to his feet so I won't argue your claim that he is standing up. Not sure what relevance that has though.

FYI

"An aggressive and forceful thrust with the top of the head into the face or body of another person."

[Ben]

It's embarrassing that you need to go down and roll around in order for your opponent to get their deserved red card.

[Spikey M]

This is the thing, they make "simulation" a bookable offence, but then if you don't exaggerate contact you're not going to get the decision. It's a headbutt, it doesn't matter if he's too soft to do it properly, it's still a red card.

[Jimmy Floyd]

"You can send me flowers. You can ring me to apologise. You can do what you want but we should be on 22 points instead of 15. The difference between 22 points and 15 for the 1000s of supporters who follow this team around the country is huge. The difference between 22 and 15 on my reputation when you’re trying to build at a big club is irreparable."

Gary O'Neil giving himself away there. 'My reputation'. I assume he won't be sending refs the same thank you cards when those points inevitably come back later in the season.

[Ben]

To be fair to him he's been palming off all the VAR mistakes up until last night as "it'll get evened out eventually" but I think he's just got to breaking point with that penalty and non-red card. VAR have consistently shafted Wolves for a couple of years now, at what point for them does it ever turn around?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They've just lost six or seven tosses of a coin, it can happen.

[niko_cee]

Quite apt that in that video comparison the player going down like a sack of shit to get someone sent off is a Wolves player.

They have had the rough end of it though. Not just with Howard Webb Apologies™ either. Pretty sure they pioneered the ball travelling backwards but still offside corner routine against Liverpool in the first season of VAR and then they had that one last year in the FA Cup where the active/inactive deliberate/not deliberate ball playing nuances melted the VAR's brain against the same opponent and disallowed their likely winning goal.

[Adramelch]

Vinicius is (always) unnecessarily aggressive but he doesn't butt him whatsoever, he just stands up.

That's almost akin to saying every headbutt is just a player moving towards another. He quite clearly makes a headbutt move (however soft) and to suggest otherwise is just biased.

[Shindig]

Are we talking Pardew levels of headbutt?

[niko_cee]

In more worrying VAR news:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67549879

This surely portends some looming schism in the spacetime continuum.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Barcola's finishing :lol:

Looks worse than Nunez.

[Waffdon]

This Barcola geezer should have 1 composure on FM based on this cameo.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's never a penalty.

UEFA can't have PSG losing here.

[Cord]

How long until teams start hiring people with no arms to play in defence?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This Barcola geezer should have 1 composure on FM based on this cameo.

He looks like he's never seen a set of goalposts before.

[Waffdon]

I count 4 fairly easy chances he had in 15/20 mins. Some effort. Think he only got 1 on target

[Shindig]

Still all to play for. Besides, 5 points from this group is more than I honestly expected.

EDIT: Aye, that penalty was harsh as fuck. Tino can't do owt about that.

[Offshore Toon]

This season is just a test run but there's still a ridiculous amount of positives. Tonight's result leaves us open to a Bellamy v Feyenoord-esque lastminute bonanza so lets fkn av it.

[CJay]

How has Dembele forged a career at three top European clubs? He seems to have absolutely nothing about him, aside from being kind of fast, but not fast enough to outsprint his full back. Countless bad touches, bad dribbles, miscontrols last night.

Meanwhile PSG bringing on the totally ineffective Asensio and Barcola while Xavi Simons is playing for Leipzig is hilarious.

[niko_cee]

I don't know if funny is the word, but it is interesting that in the age of VAR domestic and European football appear to have developed quite starkly divergent interpretations of the handball rule [the UEFA one being point blank idiocy] in a manner not entirely dissimilar to how you used to get comments to the effect that "that wouldn't be a foul in the Premier League" when rank corruption was being doled out by some useless referee in a major European tie. Seems odd that UEFA didn't implement their own recommendation that appears to have been followed in England. That was clearly never a handball. Perhaps PSG see it as justice for the one they got shafted by against United a few years ago.

[Waffdon]

Going to be a proper 80s throwback if this Man Utd game goes ahead. Pitch is already waterlogged 2 hours before kick off

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck these cunts.

[Waffdon]

Don’t do youth in Turkey, do they? From 4 of Ziyech, Mertens, Zaha and Icardi.

mon you cunts

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Stunning as the youth are getting better at using knifes these days.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lesbian is on fire.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was more of a penalty than the Toon/PSG one last night.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bruno :drool:

What a hit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Onana with a big fuck up.

[Waffdon]

Onana is genuinely awful. Ball literally ended up in the middle of the goal :lol:

[randomlegend]

Onana is genuinely awful. Ball literally ended up in the middle of the goal :lol:

Best keeper in the league so far, statistically :dc:

[Waffdon]

And Chelsea are one of the best teams..statistically. He’s shite.

Referee has given everything to Man Utd so far. I expect an exchange of envelopes at half time and Galatasary to receive a dodgy penalty in the 2nd half

[Waffdon]

Listening to Rio Ferdinand and Robbie Savage simultaneously try to speak English is certainly something

[Manc]

Best keeper in the league so far, statistically :dc:

Tied with Alisson last I checked. Jose Sa potentially having another stormer.

[Ben]

Onana :lol:

[randomlegend]

And Chelsea are one of the best teams..statistically. He’s shite.


Yes well done mate, that was the point.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Onana :facepalm:

[Ben]

Oh boy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is some goal.

[-james-]

:drool:

[Kikó]

Onana is a very comical goalkeeper.

[Ben]

This game is incredible.

[Magic]

Is there a more annoying trio than FLETCH, RIO and SAVAGE.

Intolerable cunts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This game is incredible.

Completely end to end. Both teams desperate for the full 3, it's grand.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tony Marshall wants too much time on the ball there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell.

[Waffdon]

Defending or marking anyone not a strong point in this group

[Jimmy Floyd]

Good result for United, they need Europa League.

[Waffdon]

4-3, 4-3, 3-3 and 3-2 in 4 of the 5 Man Utd games in Europe. Onana at fault for about 20% of them

[Adramelch]

Good result for United, they need Europa League.

There's a good chance they don't even get that.

[Waffdon]

If only Henrik Larsson’s son scored the last second penalty at Old Trafford. Tuchel will probably roll over for them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Need Bayern to batter Copenhagen.

[phonics]

Something I’d not noticed before. Michael Owens hairline is fighting for its life.

[Magic]

The start to this Leeds game. :D

[Lofty]

Scholes sounds like he's gonna cry, hope his daughter has had a pedicure to cheer him up.

[Lewis]

There was a Guardian write-up earlier claiming that matey is a good goalkeeper 'finding his feet' because of save percentages and the like. He isn't is he.

[Spikey M]

Shades of Hugo Lloris. He can pull off some blinders, but you're only ever moments away from a shambles.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It will be fun watching Southgate destroy Bellingham.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Rigobert Song sending Onana home from the World Cup I'm guessing knew what he was doing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That Trossard drive :D

[phonics]

#Back

How we lost to this pile of losers last time is worrying. Although they should probably have had 2 penalties.

[Kikó]

There was a Guardian write-up earlier claiming that matey is a good goalkeeper 'finding his feet' because of save percentages and the like. He isn't is he.

His technique is absolutely woeful. I don't understand how he has made it this far.

[Manc]

Stop the boats.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That Trossard drive :D
I meant Tousart.

Here it is:

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[Lewis]

His technique is absolutely woeful. I don't understand how he has made it this far.

He is to goalkeeping what late career Wayne Rooney was to central midfield.

[phonics]

His technique is absolutely woeful. I don't understand how he has made it this far.

I didn't see tonight but his choice of freezing and turning into a wet fish during 1 on 1's would have got him dropped from my U12's team and I lost 7-1 in my only GK outing.

[Shindig]

Freezing up would be an accurate way to describe how he dealt with those two free kicks. Like he was wanting to react to a deflection that never came on both of them.

[phonics]

This Polish guy signed for about 15 million quid a year ago and yet every time he plays I wonder 'Who the fuck is that?'

[Bam]

Best keeper in the league so far, statistically :dc:

:loser:

[randomlegend]

Bam so thick he still went in after Wafflez.

[Don]

Bellingham was in outrageous form tonight, drives past players like they're boys and the end-product be it finish or pass is so on the money.

[John Arne]

Bit niche this, but just been watching the World Cup final, and a few observations... the Beeb commentators were a bit rubbish... often mistaking players, and when France were awarded a penalty in the dying minutes of extra time, they just calmy announced that a free-kick was awarded... it took Jermain fucking Jenas to note that a pen had indeed been given. France also ended the game with 9 black players, a big win for colonialism.

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67508310

If player X is the man from Ghana the Spain stuff doing the rounds was bobbins as he has been there on holiday since the Sevilla game.

[Ben]

I'm a proper Jude Bellingham fanboy now. I'm searching out any Real Madrid game just so I can watch him. It would be treason for the England manager to fluff their lines with this lad.

[Spikey M]

Shades of Hugo Lloris. He can pull off some blinders, but you're only ever moments away from a shambles.

I've just watched the highlights and this is unnecessarily harsh on Lloris. Atleast you got 3 or 4 decent saves out of him before he dropped a clanger.

Who is Man Utd's back up keeper and how bad is he to not be first choice by now?

[Spikey M]

Here is where I learn that Tom Heaton still exists along with whatever an Altay Bayindir is. Lol.

Fuck me. Just go rob the T-rex off of cash strapped Everton or something.

[Don]

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God I love Man Utd more than all the Utd maggots combined.

[Ian]

Not sure more money can have been spent on a goalie with such an apparent lack of a grasp of the fundamentals as United with Onana. Surely he wasn't this bad before?

He's constantly falling over the ball or palming it back into danger areas. Or just into the goal in last night's case.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you recruit exclusively from players that Eric has worked with at Ajax then this is going to happen.

[Spikey M]

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God I love Man Utd more than all the Utd maggots combined.

:happycry:

Tom Heaton it is.

[Shindig]

This time last year they had Dubravka as back-up. And a better #1.

[Kikó]

The Turk will be in soon when Onana goes to acon.

[Boydy]

Is De Gea still a free agent?

[Waffdon]

If you recruit exclusively from players that Eric has worked with at Ajax then this is going to happen.

His recruitment has been something else. Still, only 6 points or so off top. What a league.

Arsenal should sail off into a decent lead over the next month before it all comes crashing down in February and March again

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is De Gea still a free agent?

He is.

Weighing up his options apparently.

[Ben]

Arsenal should sail off into a decent lead over the next month before it all comes crashing down in February and March again

Yep. Man City are the only team who have been managing player minutes all season already (nobody else has the luxury) and that will certainly bring it back to them after the Christmas fixture run kills off the rest.

[Danny]

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https://i.imgur.com/mNY7heq.jpg

[Ben]

Is this the wrong thread or do they literally use FIFA ratings in real life now?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I thought Sterling was more of an 85 this month, very harsh.

[Danny]

Is this the wrong thread or do they literally use FIFA ratings in real life now?

That tweet was embedded on the Prem sites article for POTM so it looks like they do.

[niko_cee]

Manchester City could face trial for their 115 Premier League charges for alleged financial breaches late next year.

The Daily Mail report that the Premier League and City have agreed a date at which they will face off in front of an independent panel.

It is claimed that the date for the showdown has been initially scheduled for the late autumn of 2024.

The report says a conclusion may not follow until the end of next season, which is when City manager Pep Guardiola's contract at the Etihad Stadium is due to expire.

The Premier League referred City to an independent commission in February over alleged rule breaches between 2009 and 2018.

City deny any breaches and said they “look forward to this matter being put to rest once and for all”.

Earlier this month, Everton were handed a 10-point deduction by an independent commission after being found to have breached the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules.

The Toffees are set to formally appeal against the punishment, which is the largest sanction in Premier League history.

Chelsea are being investigated by the Premier League over potential financial rule breaches between 2012 and 2019, when Roman Abramovich owned the club.

:happycry:

Wait, Harry Maguire is up for player of the month?

[Don]

His mum wrote in.

[niko_cee]

Brighton are far too dogmatic with this style of play. Need to learn when to just try and take some time out of the game. They've been playing themselves into all sorts of trouble for the past 5 minutes giving the ball away trying to flick it around the corner or springing too quickly into attack.

[Adramelch]

Yeah, quite lucky not to be behind really. Our defence is an absolute bombscare at times, though, so I can see us conceding a goal even from a subpar Brighton.

[Adramelch]

Right on cue. I think that's penalty number 6 we've given away (albeit many of them fairly soft) in 5 games.

[niko_cee]

Refs are absolutely allergic to giving Brighton penalties against AEK on the pitch, although that looked a bit soft.

[Adramelch]

That was quite bad from Ferguson there. He had all the time in the world to bury that.

[Giggles]

He probably shouldn't still be on the pitch after that knacker with the pony tail tried to take his head off.

[Gray Fox]

Kelleher set for a few weeks in the team at least. Hopefully he's remember to bring his hands along for the ride this time.

[niko_cee]

I know it's obviously terribly, terribly serious, and not at all a laughing matter, but this sounds quite funny:


Four police officers and police dogs were hurt in clashes with away fans, with one officer suffering concussion when he was hit by a flare.

The concussed officer's jacket caught fire after he was hit with a flare, but the jacket was removed quickly and he did not suffer burns.

The officer, sent by West Mercia Police to support the West Midlands force, was later taken to hospital with smoke inhalation after the smoke from the flare made it into his helmet.

[Yevrah]

I was confused as to why until I got to the last few words and then it hits you. :D