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Ian
18-11-2022, 04:01 PM
Not sure what's to be gained by having a thread per round is when we already have a monthly thread that is just for The Football but whatever, people like threads so here it is.

Starts on the 20th of the month, last group game is on the second when groups G and H wrap up.

Looking at it now England's group is an interesting one in as much as they'd all be team that normally scream "enormous group stage cock-up" but you don't normally have three of those in the one group. In reality I suspect it'll just be three supremely boring games, though if somebody does take the lead against us it'd be interesting to see what, if anything, Southgate does.

Ian
18-11-2022, 04:02 PM
Also this is very naff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRBLAHjkTo

niko_cee
18-11-2022, 04:07 PM
Oh god.

That absolutely cannot become the widely used version.

Jimmy Floyd
18-11-2022, 04:09 PM
I think it's quite a fun draw, this time around, except the France group, and even that could be livened up by a traditional French implosion.

Not sure how much of it I'll be able to watch, mind. Daytime games are hopeless.

Waffdon
18-11-2022, 04:37 PM
Normally I’d agree but in the WFH ages it’s absolutely glorious.

Yevrah
18-11-2022, 04:56 PM
All the teams we face are in the top 20, right?

We should beat all of them regardless (7 points minimum), but then we do have a muppet in charge so fuck knows.

Yevrah
18-11-2022, 04:57 PM
Normally I’d agree but in the WFH ages it’s absolutely glorious.

The hit to GDP is going to be a sight to behold.

Spikey M
18-11-2022, 05:00 PM
Also this is very naff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRBLAHjkTo

I don't know how David Baddiel manages to continue becoming more and more loathsome. It's some effort.

SvN
18-11-2022, 05:02 PM
Jesus Christ, that new 3 Lions is up there with the worst.

Yevrah
18-11-2022, 05:22 PM
Indeed. And if you’re evoking the Women then there’s no need for the song at all as it’s only x months of hurt.

Yevrah
18-11-2022, 05:24 PM
Having now watched it I see they’ve removed that line entirely. So tragic.

Jimmy Floyd
18-11-2022, 06:24 PM
I'm not even going to click on it.

Jimmy Floyd
18-11-2022, 06:25 PM
Normally I’d agree but in the WFH ages it’s absolutely glorious.

As if by divine intervention, since my last post I've been given a move to a desk where no one can see my screen, so we are rocking, at least for the beeb games.

niko_cee
18-11-2022, 06:34 PM
I'm not even going to click on it.

This is the wise option.

Giggles
18-11-2022, 06:39 PM
About 5 teams should pull out tomorrow and really fuck shit up.

Baz
18-11-2022, 06:53 PM
As if by divine intervention, since my last post I've been given a move to a desk where no one can see my screen, so we are rocking, at least for the beeb games.Imagine if you were promised this and then some old cunt who openly does no work then moved to the desk instead and declared it their own. Rather than being able to rant about it on TTH and people mourn for your loss, instead everyone will bring it up constantly and remind you of how sweet it could have been. :nono:

Jimmy Floyd
18-11-2022, 06:56 PM
Maybe because I didn't ask for it, but was given it voluntarily by the bosses after quietly earning their trust over a five year period.

Shindig
18-11-2022, 07:15 PM
I'm only possibly missing 10 games all tournament. I've got an unobstructed view of the office TV but I hate following games that way.

Giggles
18-11-2022, 08:24 PM
I actually don’t care what I see in this one before the quarters. I’ll listen to pods about it on the road.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 03:05 PM
Does anyone know why the opener was brought forward a day? Holland-Senegal would have been far better.

Lewis
20-11-2022, 03:12 PM
I don't know how David Baddiel manages to continue becoming more and more loathsome. It's some effort.

'Celebrity Jew David Baddiel', to give him his current name.

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 03:19 PM
'Celebrity Jew David Baddiel', to give him his current name.

Fond memories of him taking offence at non-Jewish Spurs fans using the term "yid", whilst shrugging off that they adopted the name after having it shouted at them by fans of his own club (along side the hissing and songs about concentration camps).

He had Matt Lucas of all people piping up as well. :harold:

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 03:21 PM
Can anyone else hear what sounds like spoons clattering in the BBC studio?

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 03:23 PM
Can anyone else hear what sounds like spoons clattering in the BBC studio?

Yeah, glad you mentioned it cus i thought I was losing it.

Waffdon
20-11-2022, 03:24 PM
Is the Qatar team just like the Japanese rugby team?

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 03:24 PM
They're doing a very good job with this early coverage actually, if only so we are not exposed to the horrendous opening ceremony that is going on in the background.

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 03:27 PM
Wow it's absolutely pumping in the Al Bidda fan park

Lewis
20-11-2022, 03:29 PM
Fond memories of him taking offence at non-Jewish Spurs fans using the term "yid", whilst shrugging off that they adopted the name after having it shouted at them by fans of his own club (along side the hissing and songs about concentration camps).

He had Matt Lucas of all people piping up as well. :harold:

Starts having a MELTDOWN because he thinks the full crowd is chanting 'Jew, are ya?' at him.

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 03:36 PM
Baddiel is such a wanker. I hate how him and his mates have deliberately conflated actual abuse with any non-celebrity having the temerity to say they think they're rubbish on twitter. It's all VILE TROLLING. Also refuses to apologise for blacking up.

Waffdon
20-11-2022, 03:40 PM
I thought I’d get a break from Kenny Dalgliesh’s daughter. Fuck me, she’s terrible. Can’t even speak properly or say the name ‘Ian’.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 03:43 PM
Does she say "Lan"?

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 03:46 PM
Surely they're not doing a VT on England 1-0 Ecuador, one of the worst ever World Cup games.

Don
20-11-2022, 03:52 PM
Ecuador should win this fairly easily given they have about 10kg of muscle mass advantage per player. I'll watch the opening mins to make sure the home advantage doesn't alter things too much before unloading on Ecuador.

Waffdon
20-11-2022, 03:53 PM
Does she say "Lan"?

Honestly, yes. I’ve just realised I was watching some ‘extras’ pish. Alan Shearer to the rescue

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 03:53 PM
Jesus, there's more atmosphere in space.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 03:54 PM
All my worst fears about this tournament have been realised here. Ecuador in all yellow.

Lewis
20-11-2022, 03:56 PM
Did the same bloke write every South American anthem?

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 03:58 PM
No idea, buy I'm pretty sure a deaf lad wrote the Qatari one. It's barely recognisable as a tune.

Shindig
20-11-2022, 04:00 PM
The Qatari journalist on 5 live got very defensive about calling their line-up naturalised. Look at them white lads. :D

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:02 PM
They probably won't have a concept of naturalised in the same way that we do, half the country is probably 'naturalised' in some way.

Giggles
20-11-2022, 04:03 PM
The countdown :D

That’ll be a beheading for someone.

Shindig
20-11-2022, 04:04 PM
Off to a great start. :D

Ian
20-11-2022, 04:05 PM
I've got a lot of respect for them being just immediately hoofing it up to the striker after the kickoff.

That goalkeeping. :drool:

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:05 PM
Enner Valencia is a bit of a beast.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:05 PM
Jeez, I had no idea how much I was going to celebrate that goal. Up off the sofa.

Dquincy
20-11-2022, 04:06 PM
Oh dear. :D

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:06 PM
This is going to be a fisting and it's going to be glorious.

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 04:06 PM
Hahah

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:07 PM
VAR with machetes to their throats.

That was not offside. Sorry.

Giggles
20-11-2022, 04:07 PM
Is this the first World Cup with this VAR bollocks?

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:07 PM
VAR saving the scummers.

Ben
20-11-2022, 04:07 PM
Lol that's bent.

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 04:07 PM
Well offside that

Giggles
20-11-2022, 04:08 PM
:lol: this is going to be as corrupt as fuck.

Baz
20-11-2022, 04:08 PM
Well, well, well…

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:08 PM
Is this the first World Cup with this VAR bollocks?

No, Russia had it.

Ian
20-11-2022, 04:08 PM
Was that meant to be for offside? Because if so that's an incredibly bent decision.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:09 PM
Presumably it's on the first phase of three where the keeper's up with him, but surely the keeper is by definition also behind the ball at that point?

Insane decision.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:09 PM
They've paid to win the whole tournament.

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 04:11 PM
They're barely even pretending to be legit anymore.

Dquincy
20-11-2022, 04:13 PM
"A lil shake and bake".

Enjoying Dion's commentary.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:13 PM
Regardless of that particular bit of desperate corruption, Qatar look absolutely miles off the pace here.

Manc
20-11-2022, 04:13 PM
The BBC really missing a trick by not having JP on the opener.

Giggles
20-11-2022, 04:14 PM
Regardless of that particular bit of desperate corruption, Qatar look absolutely miles off the pace here.

1-0 win with 4 disallowed Ecuadorean goals.

Lewis
20-11-2022, 04:14 PM
Mark Lawrenson would have been great at this tournament.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:15 PM
Qatari keeper looks very flappy.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:16 PM
Why has it taken that long to show us the "evidence"? :sherlock:

Giggles
20-11-2022, 04:16 PM
Have I missed another change in how offside works?

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:17 PM
I wonder how VAR takes this penalty away.

Dquincy
20-11-2022, 04:18 PM
Qatari keeper looks very flappy.
He's a mess. Could get messy this.

Waffdon
20-11-2022, 04:19 PM
Should be a red card surely. Doesn’t attempt to play the ball at all lol

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:19 PM
Enner Valencia :cool:

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 04:19 PM
Isn't that VAR replay going from when the player received the ball rather than when it was passed?

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:19 PM
+1 for Dion Dublin's commentary. Doesn't take football/himself deadly seriously.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:20 PM
Isn't that VAR replay going from when the player received the ball rather than when it was passed?

It's presumably going from when he touched it up in the air away from the keeper, thus 'passing' it to the guy who then hooked it across goal. It's a complete nonsense decision though.

Waffdon
20-11-2022, 04:21 PM
Kind of glad they’ve not sent the ‘keeper off though. Looks like he’ll give away plenty goals

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 04:22 PM
Kind of glad they’ve not sent the ‘keeper off though. Looks like he’ll give away plenty goals

Makes you wonder how bad the back up must be though.

Shindig
20-11-2022, 04:24 PM
They had six months of uninterrupted training for this.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:25 PM
This is like a training game. Imagine what a top side would do to them.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:29 PM
Men against boys.

Shindig
20-11-2022, 04:29 PM
Given how crucial goal difference will be, everyone needs to batter this lot. I can see the Dutch and Senegal destroying them.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:33 PM
That's a quality header.

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 04:34 PM
They're going to say Offside.

Waffdon
20-11-2022, 04:35 PM
I love players who just do well for their country and don’t bother at club level.

Waffdon
20-11-2022, 04:35 PM
That’s a properly good header. Some power he generated

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:39 PM
This ref is an absolute master of the rapid fire yellow card. Thinking time: 0.003 seconds.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:45 PM
Doesn't look good for Valencia which is a shame.

Dquincy
20-11-2022, 04:46 PM
Loving Dion Dublin's commentary.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 04:52 PM
Almoez was about a yard offside for that header, look forward to how they'd have ruled it onside.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 04:53 PM
That header :harold:

Don
20-11-2022, 05:02 PM
So they've shown why the goal was ruled offside using state of the art technology with minimal delay and the gammons are lolling at the Arabs? phonics

Ecuador :drool: they should dismiss Senegal and trouble Dutch too.

Ben
20-11-2022, 05:09 PM
The officiating team is Italian. Try harder.

Don
20-11-2022, 05:13 PM
1594375358467690496

Typical gammon :D

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 05:16 PM
If you're already this worked up, I'm not looking forward to your posts when we get to the rainbow armbands and knee-taking tomorrow.

Shindig
20-11-2022, 05:19 PM
And then Reece and Mount are gonna kiss.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 05:22 PM
And then Allah will weep.

Offshore Toon
20-11-2022, 05:23 PM
I can't wait for the highlight video of Arab fails next month.

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 05:26 PM
Was it The Saint that got banned for a Euro's / World Cup once for the sake of his own mental health?

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 05:30 PM
1594375358467690496

Typical gammon :D

He's not even white you fanny.

Offshore Toon
20-11-2022, 05:30 PM
Can't have been Saint.

Spikey M
20-11-2022, 05:32 PM
Lewis can you check the database?

Ben
20-11-2022, 05:33 PM
Dion Dublin needs to commentate every game.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 05:33 PM
Sarmiento's facial structure should give the 100% heterosexual stadium a stern test.

-james-
20-11-2022, 05:36 PM
Sarimento? Come on ffs.

Manc
20-11-2022, 05:39 PM
Good God this is dull.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 05:40 PM
Sarimento? Come on ffs.

That and 'Prekado' for Preciado have annoyed me a lot. English people have a ridiculous tin ear for these things.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 05:45 PM
If this finishes 2-0 Ecuador may live to regret not setting a higher goal difference target for Senegal/Holland. Been very South American 'see it out lads' in the second half.

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 05:47 PM
Yeah this is absolutely gash

Giggles
20-11-2022, 05:49 PM
Ecuador are complete dogshit too.

niko_cee
20-11-2022, 05:53 PM
I assumed what looked like vast swathes of empty seats were just all the folk in 'traditional garb' but actually, looking closer, there are a lot of empty seats [although mostly red not white].

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 05:55 PM
I assumed what looked like vast swathes of empty seats were just all the folk in 'traditional garb' but actually, looking closer, there are a lot of empty seats [although mostly red not white].

The journos there are saying that half the crowd just didn't come back for the second half.

Lewis
20-11-2022, 06:00 PM
Lewis can you check the database?

I seem to remember The Saint being banned for one, presumably Euro 2008, but I think 'Cryola' (aka 'Cry Failola') just did it because he was a fanny.

Offshore Toon
20-11-2022, 06:02 PM
I'd totally forgotten about Fry. Did his game ever amount to anything? I remember he gave me it for free but I never got round to playing it.

igor_balis
20-11-2022, 06:04 PM
The journos there are saying that half the crowd just didn't come back for the second half.

Looks like it. Well, I was fairly excited for the world cup despite everything but I'm not so sure now.

Lewis
20-11-2022, 06:05 PM
Boyd chinned him for titting up Noogle and he cried off the board.

Pepe
20-11-2022, 06:10 PM
I watched the second half of that. Might as well not have played it considering the interest the two teams showed.

niko_cee
20-11-2022, 06:48 PM
Does anyone know why the opener was brought forward a day? Holland-Senegal would have been far better.

Wasn't it to do with the African Confederation requesting it be moved, although for why I don't know.

ScousePig
20-11-2022, 07:21 PM
Boyd chinned him for titting up Noogle and he cried off the board.

Didn't they all piss off to some uber board?

Lewis
20-11-2022, 07:28 PM
I'm not sure she was that much of a bike to fill a forum.

Offshore Toon
20-11-2022, 07:30 PM
He's still active on rllmuk apparently. Doesn't DS go on there? Maybe we should do a board invasion.

Baz
20-11-2022, 07:41 PM
He's still active on rllmuk apparently. Doesn't DS go on there? Maybe we should do a board invasion.

Yeah, and wullie.

Giggles
20-11-2022, 07:43 PM
That’s not a bad looking forum.

Shindig
20-11-2022, 07:54 PM
My old account still works.

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 08:56 PM
This thing is swirling around the culture war plughole already. Tomorrow is going to be a nightmare. Either Kane wears the armband and the Arabs all start fizzing with rage (they're on the edge as it is - they really needed a better result earlier), or he doesn't wear the armband and has pussied out and let everybody down. Either option has a terrible outcome.

Then I heard Rob Page outright say that Wales will be wearing the armband, so that'll start it all over again.

There's been too much trying to have it both ways. I will never visit a country with Sharia law, even if they offer me £100,000, and that isn't even a slightly hard decision. Maybe it's harder if you're not a deviant, I don't know. That Brits flock to the UAE mystifies me. Alex Scott (who, in fairness, cops it on twitter at all times, because men despise having women involved in men's football) saying that boycott was the 'easy option' is complete bollocks, unfortunately. Boycotting was clearly the hard option, because no significant football or media figure (that I know of) has done it.

UEFA, or the worthwhile UEFA nations, should have mass-boycotted the tournament about ten years ago, and then it just wouldn't have taken place.

Don
20-11-2022, 09:16 PM
Habibi, the Arabs couldn't care less about the score tonight. There's only one demographic that are getting themselves worked up over the nonsense surrounding this and it ain't the ones with the clean bumholes.

Offshore Toon
20-11-2022, 09:34 PM
Let's face it, we've all bottled boycotting.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 09:36 PM
It would have been too easy to do.

niko_cee
20-11-2022, 09:44 PM
Have I just read right that England's game is in a 12000 seater stadium?

I know their team is League 2 level, but are most of the facilities as well?

Shindig
20-11-2022, 09:48 PM
45,000 according to Wikipedia.

niko_cee
20-11-2022, 09:56 PM
Ah, fair enough. Think I misread where they had been training and assumed they were training in the stadium the day before the match.

-james-
20-11-2022, 11:13 PM
Pickford; Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Shaw; Bellingham, Rice; Saka, Mount, Sterling; Kane

Bit attacking for my liking really.

Don
20-11-2022, 11:18 PM
Unfortunately, if my sources are correct, Azmoun is not being risked, Ghoddos and our main DM Ezatolahi is benched and it looks like a defensive yet slightly untested XI. But the king likes these surprise selections and has rarely made any errors.

I'm getting fuck all sleep tonight.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-11-2022, 11:20 PM
1-0 Iran.

Disco
20-11-2022, 11:32 PM
If the revolution happens mid-tournament do they change the flag and anthem? Quiz question in the making right there.

Don
20-11-2022, 11:39 PM
Would be pretty funny to see, for sure.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/LGBT_Flag_of_England.svg/1280px-LGBT_Flag_of_England.svg.png

Jimmy Floyd
20-11-2022, 11:47 PM
Conquered by a load of gay boys in 330 BC and never been a force since. It must hurt.

Lewis
20-11-2022, 11:47 PM
The state religion.

Yevrah
21-11-2022, 01:46 AM
This thing is swirling around the culture war plughole already. Tomorrow is going to be a nightmare. Either Kane wears the armband and the Arabs all start fizzing with rage (they're on the edge as it is - they really needed a better result earlier), or he doesn't wear the armband and has pussied out and let everybody down. Either option has a terrible outcome.

Then I heard Rob Page outright say that Wales will be wearing the armband, so that'll start it all over again.

There's been too much trying to have it both ways. I will never visit a country with Sharia law, even if they offer me £100,000, and that isn't even a slightly hard decision. Maybe it's harder if you're not a deviant, I don't know. That Brits flock to the UAE mystifies me. Alex Scott (who, in fairness, cops it on twitter at all times, because men despise having women involved in men's football) saying that boycott was the 'easy option' is complete bollocks, unfortunately. Boycotting was clearly the hard option, because no significant football or media figure (that I know of) has done it.

UEFA, or the worthwhile UEFA nations, should have mass-boycotted the tournament about ten years ago, and then it just wouldn't have taken place.

It needed one big nation to leave and the whole thing would have folded like a house of cards, which, to be fair to Scott wouldn’t have been that hard.

What happened instead was a shit tonne of virtue signalling and fuck all else. The most meaningful thing anyone has done in opposition to this utter disgrace is shred ten grand. A truly sad state of affairs all round.

John Arne
21-11-2022, 02:22 AM
I still find it astonishing that we are here in the first place. A reminder that 2 members of FIFA's ExCo were banned PRIOR to the vote for corruption. It was basically known (proven??) by around 2014 that it was fixed, yet FIFA decided to plough ahead and just kinda ignore that slightly pertinent fact.

7om
21-11-2022, 02:48 AM
Unfortunately, if my sources are correct, Azmoun is not being risked, Ghoddos and our main DM Ezatolahi is benched and it looks like a defensive yet slightly untested XI. But the king likes these surprise selections and has rarely made any errors.

I'm getting fuck all sleep tonight.

Hopefully you go full blown psychosis and forget your login to this place.

John Arne
21-11-2022, 03:09 AM
Unfortunately, if my sources are correct, Azmoun is not being risked, Ghoddos and our main DM Ezatolahi is benched and it looks like a defensive yet slightly untested XI. But the king likes these surprise selections and has rarely made any errors.

I'm getting fuck all sleep tonight.

Ezatolahi has to be up their in the most syllables per letters count.

Ben
21-11-2022, 07:08 AM
Pickford; Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Shaw; Bellingham, Rice; Saka, Mount, Sterling; Kane

Bit attacking for my liking really.

Is that genuine? Stones, Maguire, Shaw is stuff of nightmares.

John Arne
21-11-2022, 07:29 AM
That back 4 is frightening. At least, at least he isn't going 5 at the back and 2 holding midfielders.

Luke Emia
21-11-2022, 08:38 AM
This thing is swirling around the culture war plughole already. Tomorrow is going to be a nightmare. Either Kane wears the armband and the Arabs all start fizzing with rage (they're on the edge as it is - they really needed a better result earlier), or he doesn't wear the armband and has pussied out and let everybody down. Either option has a terrible outcome.

Then I heard Rob Page outright say that Wales will be wearing the armband, so that'll start it all over again.

There's been too much trying to have it both ways. I will never visit a country with Sharia law, even if they offer me £100,000, and that isn't even a slightly hard decision. Maybe it's harder if you're not a deviant, I don't know. That Brits flock to the UAE mystifies me. Alex Scott (who, in fairness, cops it on twitter at all times, because men despise having women involved in men's football) saying that boycott was the 'easy option' is complete bollocks, unfortunately. Boycotting was clearly the hard option, because no significant football or media figure (that I know of) has done it.

UEFA, or the worthwhile UEFA nations, should have mass-boycotted the tournament about ten years ago, and then it just wouldn't have taken place.

It's the same as the racism problem. There are easy ways to fix it just no one has the balls to. In European competition if your fans are racist once you get a stadium ban for 1 game, 2nd time no fucking around you are kicked out of the competition. Same in the league once you get a stadium ban, second time you get a full season of no fans. The clubs would soon be able to fix the problems then like you say Europe and North America could have sorted this by just boycotting years ago but decided not to.

niko_cee
21-11-2022, 09:10 AM
FIFA says no to THE ARMBAND.

Potential booking for all wearers.

:happycry:

Kane should wear two and then walk off in protest.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 09:14 AM
No doubt we'll hear from all concerned that the easy thing to do would have been wear it.

niko_cee
21-11-2022, 09:16 AM
:D

Is this where the yanks have been shrewd and incorporated it into their badge? Rainbow [away] kits obviously would have been the way forward, thinking about it.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 09:22 AM
You wouldn't have been allowed 'political symbols' (that someone doesn't agree with, natch - the name of every country is a political symbol) on an away kit.

John Arne
21-11-2022, 09:25 AM
Aren't the US colours just all random colours.... including black. They even bottled that.

Shindig
21-11-2022, 09:25 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClMn6txLh-X/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=ffaf123b-8d8c-47d4-b223-d3e7b389adec

Right on cue, Serge Gnabry as Mickey Mouse.

Don
21-11-2022, 09:31 AM
It's the same as the racism problem. There are easy ways to fix it just no one has the balls to. In European competition if your fans are racist once you get a stadium ban for 1 game, 2nd time no fucking around you are kicked out of the competition. Same in the league once you get a stadium ban, second time you get a full season of no fans. The clubs would soon be able to fix the problems then like you say Europe and North America could have sorted this by just boycotting years ago but decided not to.

Poor England wouldn't see the light of day in a major tournament and that's before you think of opposition fans going undercover to harm others. All in all, awful idea.

Luke Emia
21-11-2022, 09:37 AM
Poor England wouldn't see the light of day in a major tournament and that's before you think of opposition fans going undercover to harm others. All in all, awful idea.

I see no issue with that. England fans have been some of the worst for it in terms of general behaviour which always makes this hand wringing somewhat ridiculous.

niko_cee
21-11-2022, 09:49 AM
And the FAs have caved.

Good show lads.

I hope Gareth at least has a rainbow waistcoat.

Ben
21-11-2022, 09:50 AM
Pathetic.

niko_cee
21-11-2022, 09:56 AM
At the end of the day, we've come here to win a football tournament . . .

Good to see our political grandstanding is at the same level as our major tournament performance.

Waffdon
21-11-2022, 09:58 AM
That’s some bottle job and it’s not even kicked off yet. Just doing it for the publicity like every other country.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 10:04 AM
Very disappointing.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 10:04 AM
That was all too easy. Chicken shits.

Baz
21-11-2022, 10:06 AM
Who’d have thought England could get even less likeable.

niko_cee
21-11-2022, 10:12 AM
So we've done the beer, we've done the rainbow iconography [interesting to see how that's policed on fans], what's next? Hot dogs?

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 10:14 AM
Seb Vettel put the rainbow on his helmet in Saudi Arabia ffs. At this point it's the Qataris playing games.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 10:19 AM
Seb Vettel put the rainbow on his helmet in Saudi Arabia ffs. At this point it's the Qataris playing games.

It's all flexing and they're going to get away with it all. I'm not even sure a team would be allowed to fuck off if one decided to at this stage.

Lofty
21-11-2022, 10:50 AM
Of course they will get away with it, it's too late for anyone to do anything about it now. They just accepted all our demands and now fuck them off at the 11th hour, showing their real power. Not unlike the Saudi takeover of Newcastle, a lot of teams are compromised on the sly with political deals so couldn't pull out if they wanted to.

Yevrah
21-11-2022, 10:53 AM
Seb Vettel put the rainbow on his helmet in Saudi Arabia ffs. At this point it's the Qataris playing games.

Has to be said, they are nailing the fuck out of it. The power of the brown envelope lives on.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 10:55 AM
As was pointed out on I think the Guardian, or whatever I was listening to last night, FIFA's relationship with Qatar as hosts seems to be completely different to FIFA's relationship with all previous hosts (where FIFA basically call the shots and take over the country for the duration of the tournament).

The Qataris have paid good money for this in bungs and want their money's worth in full.

Yevrah
21-11-2022, 10:59 AM
Yep. I remember reading the list of conditions hosting this thing normally comes with a while back and the Qataris seem to have managed to cross out a fuck load of it.

Luke Emia
21-11-2022, 11:20 AM
If anything comes from this hopefully it will be proving to FIFA that you can't allow host to use the World Cup for sportswashing purposes. Because if you go to these authoritarian states things like this whereby the rules are changed at the last minute will happen and once one country gets away with it they will all think that they can. The Bud thing being a prime example no one would have given a shit if 12 years ago Qatar had said there won't be any sales in the venues but the fact that they are changing the rules now should be warning to any sports governing body.

Ben
21-11-2022, 11:21 AM
Infantino is all in on this shit, the brown envelope is massive. Next one will be in occupied Ukraine.

Yevrah
21-11-2022, 11:25 AM
Oh and on the sportswashing front, which never sat well with me as an explanation for all of this shit, someone pointed out to me that instead of that they’re using every means at their disposal to maintain their standing in the World as they know full well once the oil runs out they’ll be utterly irrelevant. Makes much more sense, to me anyway.

Spikey M
21-11-2022, 11:27 AM
My interest in this World Cup was already at an all time low, but this shit is sucking any remaining sense of joy out of this. The game is gone. Politics and business have finally ruined it.

Don
21-11-2022, 11:27 AM
Fuckers were dishing out bans and fines for Palestinian flags for decades but now look at the tears. Chin up, lads.

Ben
21-11-2022, 11:31 AM
Palestine are worthy of support, Qatar aren't.

Don
21-11-2022, 11:32 AM
That medicine sure is bitter but get it down you, it'll all be fine.

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 11:37 AM
1-0 Iran.
I forgot it's that time of year where Mahow tries to convince everyone (and himself) that he's not English.

-james-
21-11-2022, 11:39 AM
Giving that terrible new Baddiel & Skinner song its tenth spin already. Let's do this. :drool:

SvN
21-11-2022, 11:45 AM
I forgot it's that time of year where Mahow tries to convince everyone (and himself) that he's not English.

Best post you've ever made.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 11:47 AM
We just need an early goal and we'll be fine. If no early goal, it'll be a horrible grind.

Yevrah
21-11-2022, 11:49 AM
I’m going for an eye bleeding 0-0, with some quite excellent shithousery from the Iranians.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 12:01 PM
England will wallop the useless cunts.

-james-
21-11-2022, 12:02 PM
1594661189677621248

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 12:04 PM
Justice for Jude's second L.

randomlegend
21-11-2022, 12:08 PM
The person responsible for teams being listed in squad number rather than position order deserves to be sent to Doha dressed all in rainbow with a kilo of cocaine in their anus.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 12:12 PM
I forgot it's that time of year where Mahow tries to convince everyone (and himself) that he's not English.
I'm English but I don't support the English football team and all the dickheads in it.

Don
21-11-2022, 12:12 PM
Shearer with "It would have made a huge statement" is today's candidate for lol punditry. And Gary absolutely seething at everything is nice too.

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 12:20 PM
Shearer with "It would have made a huge statement" is today's candidate for lol punditry. And Gary absolutely seething at everything is nice too.
It's virtual signaling at it's best. Ultimately it means nothing so may as well just get on with it.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 12:20 PM
I'm English but I don't support the English football team and all the dickheads in it.

Which people in it are dickheads?

randomlegend
21-11-2022, 12:21 PM
It's virtual signaling at it's best. Ultimately it means nothing so may as well just get on with it.

Yeah these lot need knocking off their peddle stools.

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 12:22 PM
Yeah these lot need knocking off their peddle stools.

Oops.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 12:22 PM
Gareth is spineless.

Yevrah
21-11-2022, 12:24 PM
The phrase virtue signalling is often overused and nearly as bad as “woke” and “gammon”, but in this case I can’t think of any other way that better describes what’s happened/happening.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 12:25 PM
Which people in it are dickheads?

Admittedly this squad for the tournament is a little light on them.

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 12:27 PM
The phrase virtue signalling is often overused and nearly as bad as “woke” and “gammon”, but in this case I can’t think of any other way that better describes what’s happened/happening.
At least Alex Scott is wearing the One Love armband. Makes all the difference.

Don
21-11-2022, 12:27 PM
The useless bitch picked up the armband out the bin and wore it pitchside :D

Spikey M
21-11-2022, 12:28 PM
Has she been yellow carded?

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 12:28 PM
I have to say, I'm not big on rainbow flags and all that kind of stuff, it's so easy to do without having to back it up. Joe Root saying to Shannon Gabriel on the pitch 'there's nothing wrong with being gay' was 100x more powerful than any symbol.

Of course, on the flip side, if the Qataris are going to scream and cry like little girls at the idea of some men wearing multi-coloured armbands while in their country, then they are no better and probably far worse.

Ben
21-11-2022, 12:28 PM
I've turned off the build up. I'll switch on at 12:59. Can't cope with Mark Chapman musing whether the seats being far away from pitch like the London Stadium will be the fine margin that plunges us into trouble against fucking Iran.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 12:42 PM
Seems to be utter chaos outside the ground with the ticket scanners not working.

Spikey M
21-11-2022, 12:43 PM
That'll be the scousers again.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 12:47 PM
I'm English but I don't support the English football team and all the dickheads in it.

Then you wouldn’t support any team.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 12:48 PM
Then you wouldn’t support any team.

Why wouldn't I?

Giggles
21-11-2022, 12:49 PM
Why wouldn't I?

Because they’re all full of dickheads.

Spikey M
21-11-2022, 12:52 PM
I do love a Man Utd fan objecting to thr idea of supporting a team - including Man Utd players - on dickhead grounds. :D

Also, Monghow, you preciously claimed it was because some England fans had told you that you weren't English at some point, didn't you?

Pick a reason lad.

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 12:55 PM
Mahow, let's seize this opportunity for you to return to the English supporting bosom. Then we can forget this ever happened.

-james-
21-11-2022, 12:55 PM
Big Mase definitely sung Queen there.

Spikey M
21-11-2022, 01:00 PM
Was that Iran player taking the knee or doing his shoelaces?

randomlegend
21-11-2022, 01:05 PM
Ref's bottled that.

thommo
21-11-2022, 01:05 PM
Good to see VAR is a fucking shambles on an international level as well as in the Prem.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 01:07 PM
1594657948525289473

Unsurprisingly the cash Joe shredded was fake.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 01:10 PM
That looked sore. Not a hope they're not both concussed.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 01:10 PM
He's surely coming off.

Yevrah
21-11-2022, 01:12 PM
I really like Joe Lycett, but can no one see anything through?

Giggles
21-11-2022, 01:13 PM
It's got him the publicity he craved. That's the only thing that mattered.

randomlegend
21-11-2022, 01:13 PM
Allah must be an England fan.

John Arne
21-11-2022, 01:13 PM
I really like Joe Lycett, but can no one see anything through?

Yup. When did people forget what proper protesting was about? Every fucker is bottling it.

-james-
21-11-2022, 01:14 PM
He's clearly out to lunch.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 01:14 PM
Yet again football shows they don't give a fuck about concussions.

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 01:15 PM
Inspiring. :D

1594669513777197057

Giggles
21-11-2022, 01:15 PM
Rain balls in on top of the fool now.

Waffdon
21-11-2022, 01:15 PM
Why are they acting like it’s a concussion though? It’s clearly his nose that got fucked up.

Size of his nose now. Offft :D

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 01:16 PM
Yet again football shows they don't give a fuck about concussions.

Hope he flaps one into the goal now.

randomlegend
21-11-2022, 01:16 PM
Yet again football shows they don't give a fuck about concussions.

Nah, don't buy this. If that was Pickford the England doctors would've made him come off. It's the dodgy Iranian doctors at fault.

7om
21-11-2022, 01:16 PM
His nose is about three foot long with the swelling.

Ben
21-11-2022, 01:16 PM
Shoot on sight for the next few minutes. He'll get pulled soon enough.

Lofty
21-11-2022, 01:17 PM
Maybe this is Iran's gameplan :D

-james-
21-11-2022, 01:17 PM
He's out for the tournament now isn't he? Probably why they insisted on giving it a go.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 01:17 PM
I flicked to another tab for a second. Did he drop or get another clout?

7om
21-11-2022, 01:17 PM
Infantino: I feel concussed

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 01:18 PM
I flicked to another tab for a second. Did he drop or get another clout?

Dropped.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 01:18 PM
Is this a time-wasting exercise or what?

Ben
21-11-2022, 01:18 PM
Infantino: I feel concussed

:D

randomlegend
21-11-2022, 01:18 PM
There should be about 15 minutes added time.

thommo
21-11-2022, 01:19 PM
He could barely stand up. Absolute shambles that there isn't an independent medic because you knew the Iranian team wanted him to stay on.

Spikey M
21-11-2022, 01:19 PM
Infantino: I feel concussed

:lol:

Ben
21-11-2022, 01:20 PM
His mates slapping him round the chops probably didn't help.

Sir Andy Mahowry
21-11-2022, 01:20 PM
Nah, don't buy this. If that was Pickford the England doctors would've made him come off. It's the dodgy Iranian doctors at fault.

It's still happening in the Premier League.

Robin Koch was earlier this year.

Jimmy Floyd
21-11-2022, 01:20 PM
Great vote of confidence in this new lad.

phonics
21-11-2022, 01:21 PM
Some blokes just walked out of the pub because he’s ‘sick of these woke footballers falling over and taking an hour to get up’ presumably referring to the goalie?

Alex
21-11-2022, 01:22 PM
Infantino: I feel concussed

:D

Ben
21-11-2022, 01:22 PM
He wasn't very woke when he went off.

Dquincy
21-11-2022, 01:26 PM
Did the stadium announcer just announce the booking. That's different.

This game is going to be a shitfest.

-james-
21-11-2022, 01:27 PM
Who's decided that possession stats are now a 3-way stat?

Ben
21-11-2022, 01:27 PM
xPossession.

John Arne
21-11-2022, 01:29 PM
How on earth Sterling starts ahead of Foden, Grealish and Maddison I'll never know.

Giggles
21-11-2022, 01:29 PM
I was wondering that one yesterday. What are they actually counting as the third one?

Ben
21-11-2022, 01:29 PM
This 2nd of 4 keepers looks ropey. Top class shithousery from the Iranians already, we need a goal pretty quick otherwise we'll get unstuck against this.

Waffdon
21-11-2022, 01:30 PM
Referee loves a 5m dash towards where the foul is made.

Jenas needs stoned to death

Giggles
21-11-2022, 01:30 PM
How on earth Sterling starts ahead of Foden, Grealish and Maddison I'll never know.

Long tournament and you're playing Iran. That's probably why Maguire is getting his Make A Wish moment too.

Ben
21-11-2022, 01:30 PM
Jenas needs stoned to death

I miss Dion already.

-james-
21-11-2022, 01:31 PM
I was wondering that one yesterday. What are they actually counting as the third one?

"In contest"

Waffdon
21-11-2022, 01:32 PM
Playing Sterling and Mount against a ‘low block’ is quite lol