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Manc
01-11-2022, 12:48 PM
Interested to hear people's thoughts on the ever growing world of supplements. Is it all a load of bollocks or are you a firm believer?

I've been knocking back vitabiotics for as long as I can remember with additional vit D for the winter months.

Boydy
01-11-2022, 12:53 PM
I take a multivitamin every day. Mostly for the vitamin D but might as well get the others too.

Jimmy Floyd
01-11-2022, 12:55 PM
I sometimes take vitamin D during the shit months (we are now entering the shit months). No real idea if it makes any difference.

Giggles
01-11-2022, 01:00 PM
Anyone want to buy some magic beans off me?

-james-
01-11-2022, 01:10 PM
Creatine, vitamin d, sometimes b12. The rest I'm pretty happy I get from my diet.

phonics
01-11-2022, 01:14 PM
They're a scam.

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Lofty
01-11-2022, 01:37 PM
Vitamin D and generic mens multivitamins.

randomlegend
01-11-2022, 01:37 PM
Everyone in this country should probably just take vitamin D all the time. It's a surprise at work if you do someone's bloods and they aren't vit D deficient.

Everything else is bullshit unless you have a specific reason for being vitamin deficient.

Kikó
01-11-2022, 01:45 PM
I'm doing a course on sports nutrition so I'm pretty much an expert now. The only things considered proven as a supplement worth taking is bicarbonate, caffeine, nitrate, creatine and beta-alanine.

-james-
01-11-2022, 01:49 PM
I'm doing a course on sports nutrition so I'm pretty much an expert now. The only things considered proven as a supplement worth taking is bicarbonate, caffeine, nitrate, creatine and beta-alanine.

Beta alanine isn't worth feeling like your skin is on fire. I tried beetroot pills for nitrate for a while and I think they gave me horrid palpitations at night.

Spikey M
01-11-2022, 01:49 PM
Whey protein and a magnesium & potassium supplement, otherwise I get spasms at night on exercise days.

Pepe
01-11-2022, 01:54 PM
It is not clear whether any of them do anything positive for you, but they also don't seem to harm anything, so it is one of those things where you might as well give it a go.

I don't take anything myself.

randomlegend
01-11-2022, 01:56 PM
I was talking from a general health perspective by the way. No idea about exercise supplements and whether they work. Not something I've ever needed to look into, what with me becoming a swole beast every time I lift a pencil.

Yevrah
01-11-2022, 02:00 PM
Funny this should rear its head. I never have, but I've reached a stage in life where either my age is noticeable or I have the beginnings of an as yet undiagnosed serious health issue. Assuming it's the former I've been toying with the idea of supplements.

niko_cee
01-11-2022, 02:09 PM
Are you reading early onset dementia into "toying with the idea of supplements"?

Always seemed like clear mountebankery to me.

Kikó
01-11-2022, 02:32 PM
Beta alanine isn't worth feeling like your skin is on fire. I tried beetroot pills for nitrate for a while and I think they gave me horrid palpitations at night.

Yep, dosage dependent and individual response to it will determine whether you want to take it.

Whey protein is also considered an effective supplement.

Ben
01-11-2022, 02:54 PM
I'm doing a course on sports nutrition so I'm pretty much an expert now. The only things considered proven as a supplement worth taking is bicarbonate, caffeine, nitrate, creatine and beta-alanine.

Test and dbol also work well.

7om
01-11-2022, 03:17 PM
There’s evidence that multivitamins are actually harmful. I only take vitamin d personally.

Boydy
01-11-2022, 03:18 PM
There’s evidence that multivitamins are actually harmful. I only take vitamin d personally.

Really? Why?

7om
01-11-2022, 04:19 PM
Really? Why?

There’s quite a mixed bag of results if you look at the research done on multivitamins. For example, this study…

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0735109718345601

…finds protective effects in favour of folic acid but increases in all cause mortality for antioxidants. I’d avoid calcium supplementation as well, personally. Interesting topic, though.

Ben
01-11-2022, 04:28 PM
Most multivitamins are pumped full of the ones you don't actually need supplementing with because unless you live on McDonald's you get them anyway. The vitamins more difficult to obtain through a natural diet like D3 are in such small amounts if they are in there at all. You probably don't want to cheap out on them because those ones will be useless.

Kikó
01-11-2022, 04:31 PM
I've started to take creatine monohydrate to see if it helps with recovery and henchness. Last time it just made me bloat.

Ben
01-11-2022, 04:37 PM
Really? Not experienced bloat from that before. Your body has a limit of what it can take (5g a day ish) and you just piss out the rest. It might be beneficial, it's not truly conclusive, but it's so cheap that you might as well take it anyway.

Kikó
01-11-2022, 04:43 PM
I think there's reasonable amount of evidence that it's useful from a sporting performance and encouraging lean muscle perspective. But yep, last time I just gained weight due to the water retention (probably or the pies). I'm only doing 3g now.

Raoul Duke
01-11-2022, 04:48 PM
Funny this should rear its head. I never have, but I've reached a stage in life where either my age is noticeable or I have the beginnings of an as yet undiagnosed serious health issue. Assuming it's the former I've been toying with the idea of supplements.

No shame in taking a little blue helper if you need a bit of assistance in the downstairs trouser cannon department. Thanks for sharing :thbgrin:

Boydy
01-11-2022, 04:52 PM
I've started to take creatine monohydrate to see if it helps with recovery and henchness. Last time it just made me bloat.

I took it for a while before and felt the same. Also don't think it helped any so I stopped bothering.

Boydy
01-11-2022, 04:53 PM
Test and dbol also work well.

You speaking from experience?

Baz
01-11-2022, 04:54 PM
I’ve always been tempted but never bothered cos they’re almost certainly a scam. Most notably Athletic Greens and Spirulina.

Lewis
01-11-2022, 05:07 PM
I take a multi-vitamin, half a slow release vitamin B, and a cheapo vitamin D. I used to use beta alanine and creatine, but stopped them because the former kept going up in price and I thought I would just try going without either. I haven't noticed any difference, so no more of those.

Mike
01-11-2022, 05:08 PM
Nope, had my bloods done and was told by the doctor to just “keep doing what I’m doing” which is not a lot.

Ben
01-11-2022, 05:57 PM
You speaking from experience?

Yeah. Dbol is pretty insane for strength but you've got to have a test base to supplement it (unless you're mental). I did six weeks and puffed up like Michelin man but put crazy numbers on my lifts. I would never do it again if it wasn't for strongman comp purposes, which I never plan on doing again anyway.

Kikó
01-11-2022, 05:59 PM
Show us a comp pic.

Shindig
01-11-2022, 06:17 PM
I've been taking multivitamins since the pandemic. Can't say I notice much of a difference.

Ben
01-11-2022, 06:44 PM
Show us a comp pic.

There isn't one. :D

I think I mentioned it in the gym thread, I ended up pulling out right before because our baby was born early.

Boydy
01-11-2022, 07:02 PM
Hench baby punching its way out of the womb early because of your juiced jizz.