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Baz
20-08-2022, 10:28 PM
I'm gonna make a TTH team on FM23, or maybe add us all to an existing team - TBC - and I'd appreciate if everyone could make it more fun by choosing your own information.

I've created a Google form here: https://forms.gle/adYGMNTr7im6EhuQ8

Please take about 15 minutes to fill it in.

It gets a bit overwhelming when you get to selecting your attributes but I'd really appreciate it if you complete it as per the instructions for each question.

Just a quick summary of the ask:
If you don't want to share your full name, don't worry about it, but I probably know it anyway. You must put your TTH username.
Hair colour, length and skintone is for the 3D pitch lookalike.

Height (cm) and weight (kg) and foot is pretty self-explanatory.

Then your birthday. All players will be born in 2005 and 2006 so you're mostly choosing to be 16 or 17 at the start.
You can choose as many nations as you want. You won't be declared for any.

Choose as many positions as you like but try to be a bit realistic. Choose at least one to be 'natural' If you choose goalkeeper, you will only be a goalkeeper.

Choose upto 6 preferred player moves.

So, attributes. Believe it or not, this is the best way I could think to keep it balanced. Each set of attributes tells you how many to choose for each column. I appreciate its a bit of a pain but please persevere with it and you can mould your player exactly how you want him to be. You'll see something like 2-2-6-6-1 in the question text. This is how many 'ticks' you should have in each column.

You can choose anything for Hidden Mental Attributes.

There are 17 Mental Attributes. 2-2-6-6-1 = 17
There are 9 Physical Attributes. 1-2-2-2-2 = 9
There are 15 Technical Attributes. 2-2-5-5-1 = 15
There are 11 Goalkeeping Attributes. 1-2-3-3-2 = 11. You can choose skip these if you're not a keeper, it just sets your 'goalkeeper rating' if you do fill it in.

Then it's just picking your favourite/disliked people/clubs.

I've probably missed something glaringly obvious but I put the form together over loads of different occasions as I kept remembering stuff. I think I'm happy with this version anyway.

Again, I appreciate it seems like a pain to fill this in, but you'll only regret not doing it properly when everyone's way into the FM23 save. :cool:

Football Manager 2023 will probably come out in early November so please try to have submitted your player by Friday 4th November and as soon as I've got the game/editor, I'll start creating everyone.

I'll share what positions we have as more people submit (but won't say who until the big reveal with a screenshot of the team) cos it might help people decide where/how they want their player to play.

I may exercise some creative freedom if we end up lacking anywhere. :dc:

Non-shortened form URL: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf_3OIyIUQe392diHw_mr0Cm3OvQ_hyudZp9rmE9D-vhFHThw/viewform?usp=sf_link

Offshore Toon
20-08-2022, 10:30 PM
Put me down for £500 again.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-08-2022, 10:37 PM
Why the fuck have you used the American date format?

Shindig
20-08-2022, 10:45 PM
The Class of 9/11.

Danny
20-08-2022, 10:49 PM
Love these kinds of games. Form wont load for me.

Baz
20-08-2022, 10:53 PM
Why the fuck have you used the American date format?

Er, I've not?


Love these kinds of games. Form wont load for me.

Try this? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf_3OIyIUQe392diHw_mr0Cm3OvQ_hyudZp9rmE9D-vhFHThw/viewform?usp=sf_link

Danny
20-08-2022, 10:54 PM
:thbup:

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-08-2022, 11:02 PM
Er, I've not?



Try this? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf_3OIyIUQe392diHw_mr0Cm3OvQ_hyudZp9rmE9D-vhFHThw/viewform?usp=sf_link

https://i.imgur.com/OC2f3j1.png

Danny
20-08-2022, 11:05 PM
Done! I had that too wasnt sure it if it was because it was because I am in the US.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-08-2022, 11:07 PM
Anyway, I've entered as a fat CB/ST who can't run but is a good finisher.

Mike
21-08-2022, 02:36 AM
Signed up. It’s 3am and I’m up with the baby so sorry if I’ve done any bit wrong

randomlegend
21-08-2022, 04:13 AM
I'm just curious if you actually know my full name.

Baz
21-08-2022, 05:50 AM
I'm just curious if you actually know my full name.I’ve always presume your surname begins with M and is the same as the Irish country famed for its ancient Irish craft of lace-making, more commonly known as Carrickmacross Lace, but I’ve never really given it that much thought.

Anyway we’ve 9 players already so thanks everyone!

We are already very well stocked at centre half. :D

randomlegend
21-08-2022, 06:10 AM
You could've just said no.

igor_balis
21-08-2022, 01:50 PM
I'll definitely do this later

Baz
22-08-2022, 10:53 PM
12 players so far. Thanks everyone - I really do appreciate it. Hope I get a lot more tbh.

Positions (at a glance):

D / DM / M / AM C
D / DM C
D / ST C
D / ST C
D / WB / M R
DM / M / AM C
WB / AM L
AM R
M RC / AM C
M / AM / ST C
AM / ST C
AM LC / ST C

Looking forward to spending hours on the editor making us all.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-08-2022, 10:55 PM
Which other cunt did D / ST C?

I will hunt you down for stealing my idea.

Baz
22-08-2022, 10:56 PM
Dion Dublin.

Danny
22-08-2022, 11:45 PM
Looking forward to spending hours on the editor making us all.

Isn’t editor data just a xml files?

Should be able to figure out how to dump the data from the google form into excel and into the xml format.

Luca
23-08-2022, 12:17 AM
Done. Gave the team a commanding tall goalkeeper so if the rest of you are fat, lazy cunts we might actually not get embarrassed.

Ben
23-08-2022, 06:29 AM
Got no interest in FM these days but I've signed up anyway to pad the squad out, in case you were lacking a big centre half.

Clunge
23-08-2022, 07:10 AM
Quite a good spread positionally though so far.

Mazuuurk
23-08-2022, 09:01 AM
Done!

Lofty
24-08-2022, 11:51 AM
Done. Gave the team a commanding tall goalkeeper so if the rest of you are fat, lazy cunts we might actually not get embarrassed.

That number 1 shirt is Loftinho's.

Luca
24-08-2022, 11:38 PM
Baz can you make Lofty my mortal enemy in game? :panda:


...I'll be the starter with the #13 shirt anyways.

Baz
01-09-2022, 12:16 PM
20 legends have signed up so far, and that’s not even including me. So because of the good turnout so far, and still well over a month before I’ll get my hands on the FM23 editor, I’m gonna say that I won’t be adding anyone who doesn’t sign up.

So if any TTH legends like Lewis, Ian, Jimmy Floyd and Giggles (the four semi finalists of the 2019 tournament) don’t sign up, they won’t be in the team.

Basically, get your finger out and sign up. Especially the FM thread lads like Raoul Duke, Manc, ScousePig, Yevrah, Dark Soldier, wullie, thommo, Bam, Gray Fox, Browning, Smjffy, Adramelch, Serj, Dan, etc.

Link again: https://forms.gle/adYGMNTr7im6EhuQ8

Cheers pals.

Next question: any objections to us all signing for Farsley Celtic in the Conference North, or should I create a TTH team from scratch? Or any other team suggestions?

CJay
01-09-2022, 12:19 PM
Makes more sense to go the whole hog and make a team too, surely?

Danny
01-09-2022, 02:22 PM
Used to play my college games at Throstle Nest when I was still in England. I am with it :cool:

Mike
01-09-2022, 03:50 PM
Yeah, make a side.

Yevrah
01-09-2022, 07:18 PM
Added me Baz, I was really boring and went for an uber striker, but one I think that will be very controversial and 15 when the game starts...

Gray Fox
01-09-2022, 09:12 PM
Make a TTH team Baz.

What positions do we still need?

Baz
02-09-2022, 03:05 PM
What positions do we still need?Just filtering out the natural (19-20) positions, we have the following:

GK
GK
D C
D C
D R
DM C
DM C
DM/AM C
WB/AM L (I presume Queenslander meant to be natural at these? He only chose competent at these and then nothing else. :D)
M C
M/AM C
M/AM L
AM L
AM L
AM R
AM R
AM/S C
S C
S C
S C
S C
S C

Plus AyDee who filled the form in twice. Once as a AM/S C and once as AM RLC / S C. Weirdly, both had different coloured hair and different nationalities – the former has Scotland second nationality and the latter has Japan. :D Which do you want? You did the RLC/Japanese one second I presume the latter?

And a lot of accomplished positions elsewhere, but I cba working them out, soz. I'll probably make a leftback, at first glance.


Also, everyone who signs up: I'll make a facepack for it. Which person's face do you want to represent your player? Can be anything/anyone so long as I can grab it off Google and cut it out, or use an existing player. Literally anyone in the world, Yevrah is having Mark Corrigan if he doesn't pick one, for example, but I'd rather not pick them.

Yevrah
02-09-2022, 03:07 PM
I like the idea of Mark Corrigan.

Josh
02-09-2022, 03:29 PM
I've added myself as LB to round off the team

Offshore Toon
02-09-2022, 03:33 PM
I'll take the Wealdstone Raider's face.

Luca
02-09-2022, 03:35 PM
It’s an easy one for me, just use Rafael or Fabio’s face(s).

Spikey M
02-09-2022, 04:59 PM
https://i.ibb.co/37JskZh/Screenshot-20220902-175758-Facebook.jpg

Ben
02-09-2022, 05:11 PM
Just give me some heavy unit of a centre half like Terry Butcher, Neil Ruddock or Chris Samba.

-james-
02-09-2022, 05:31 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Stelios_age17.jpg

CJay
02-09-2022, 05:54 PM
Greg Davies please.

Sir Andy Mahowry
02-09-2022, 06:12 PM
Keith from The UK Office for me please.

Mike
02-09-2022, 07:05 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/bY0FNvxb/D2-DB8985-7-EE6-40-BC-B9-AF-8110-B4-B91-CD0.jpg

Spikey M
02-09-2022, 08:08 PM
I don't think they're meant to be legitimate mugshots Mike.

Lewis
02-09-2022, 08:24 PM
Baz I have signed up.

Clunge
02-09-2022, 09:54 PM
Virgil Tracy from Thunderbirds please.

https://img.sharetv.com/shows/characters/large/thunderbirds_uk.virgil_tracy_2.jpg

Queenslander
02-09-2022, 10:39 PM
Just filtering out the natural (19-20) positions, we have the following:

GK
GK
D C
D C
D R
DM C
DM C
DM/AM C
WB/AM L (I presume Queenslander meant to be natural at these? He only chose competent at these and then nothing else. :D)
M C
M/AM C
M/AM L
AM L
AM L
AM R
AM R
AM/S C
S C
S C
S C
S C
S C

Plus AyDee who filled the form in twice. Once as a AM/S C and once as AM RLC / S C. Weirdly, both had different coloured hair and different nationalities – the former has Scotland second nationality and the latter has Japan. :D Which do you want? You did the RLC/Japanese one second I presume the latter?

And a lot of accomplished positions elsewhere, but I cba working them out, soz. I'll probably make a leftback, at first glance.


Also, everyone who signs up: I'll make a facepack for it. Which person's face do you want to represent your player? Can be anything/anyone so long as I can grab it off Google and cut it out, or use an existing player. Literally anyone in the world, Yevrah is having Mark Corrigan if he doesn't pick one, for example, but I'd rather not pick them.



Whoops my mistake. :uhoh:

Add left back to mine if you like and take away AM L.



https://images.indulgexpress.com/uploads/user/ckeditor_images/article/2018/9/13/Agassi.jpg

Bam
04-09-2022, 02:14 PM
I'll sign up in a bit.

Baz
06-09-2022, 12:40 PM
I'll sign up in a bit.

Go on then.

AyDee please read my previous post and confirm which player you want.

Everyone else please signup if you haven’t already done so, and continue submitting your player likeness for the facepack.

I created the spreadsheet before to convert all the ranges to actual numbers so everything’s in place, really. Just need more signups and access to the new editor.

Curses to anyone who left blanks in the attributes questions. :nono:

Dark Soldier
08-09-2022, 07:12 PM
thanks baz i have done this can i be general levy please

https://accessaa.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Screenshot-2019-11-12-at-14.25.50.png

AyDee
08-09-2022, 07:58 PM
Sorry, serves me right for trying to do it whilst commuting. Yes please to the Japanese one.

AyDee
08-09-2022, 08:06 PM
Photo:

https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/resources/images/1143783.jpg?type=responsive-gallery-fullscreen

-james-
08-09-2022, 08:08 PM
Phwoar.

Baz
13-09-2022, 03:34 PM
https://i.ibb.co/37JskZh/Screenshot-20220902-175758-Facebook.jpg

You've just picked all 20s so at the moment won't be created.

I'd appreciate if you could fill it in again properly? :worried:

We've 27 players anyway. Well done everyone for being so sound. Some big hitters missing though - you'll regret it, lads.

I've decided I will create a team. We'll replace Bradford Park Avenue in the National League North.

As per the signup form we'll be starting with a bunch of 16 and 17 year olds. This is quite pleasing:

https://i.ibb.co/bLBc4Zq/dob.png

So from NLN to EPL it's a minimum of five seasons. If we manage successive promotions (spoiler: we won't) then we'll all be 21 and 22 when we emark on our Premier League journey. :cool:

Spikey M
13-09-2022, 04:36 PM
It was all 20's with a 1 for heading you slag.

Offshore Toon
13-09-2022, 07:19 PM
Will the FM engine know what to do when Spikey's head punctures the ball?

Baz
14-09-2022, 08:40 AM
Will the FM engine know what to do when Spikey's head punctures the ball?

We shall never know.

Spikey M
14-09-2022, 09:00 AM
I resubmitted and followed the rules. :mad:

John Arne
15-09-2022, 02:27 AM
Will you use in the in-game editor to lock everybody at the club, or you allow players to move freely?

Baz
15-09-2022, 05:51 AM
Will you use in the in-game editor to lock everybody at the club, or you allow players to move freely?

I won’t be using an in game editor at all so will be clinging onto us for dear life.

Does a transfer embargo include outgoing deals? It doesn’t does it. :(

igor_balis
15-09-2022, 10:15 AM
I won’t be using an in game editor at all so will be clinging onto us for dear life.

Does a transfer embargo include outgoing deals? It doesn’t does it. :(

What you can do is set the contracts like 25 years and have a future dated arranged transfer to some other club for 2045 or some shit :cool:

You could even have some fun with that, have all the TTHers turn up at some Gibraltan club in their late 30s for one last hurrah or something.

Baz
15-09-2022, 10:21 AM
Quick preview of the positions* for everyone who's signed up so far:

https://i.ibb.co/MMJqjgY/TTH.png

Any disagreements? (Had a little blunder with the editor requiring everyone to have at least one 20 position and kept making people a ST but I've sorted my formula out and all 'natural' positions will now be 20, rather than between 19-20, as 19 is only accomplished.) Whipped this up quickly this morning so some errors may have crept through.

And any gaps? Still need to create myself so will try to plug any holes.

2 GK
2 right backs (2 right wingbacks)
3 left backs (3 left wingbacks)
6 centrehalves
5 centre mids (4 defensive mids, 5 attacking mids)
3 right mids (3 attacking mids)
1 left mid (5 attacking mids)
11 strikers (this may be a result of the aforementioned editor issue, or everyone wants to be a striker :D more likely the former, thankfully)

Depending on formation, left mid could be problematic, and maybe right back.

I'm sure plenty will be taught new positions too.

Could do with another keeper, I guess.

*These may change for FM23, depending on the ranged value assigned for each criteria, eg 13-17

Giggles
15-09-2022, 11:03 AM
I didn’t sign up so I’m not sure why I’m on that list.

Baz
15-09-2022, 11:17 AM
I didn’t sign up so I’m not sure why I’m on that list.I was wondering why you're Northern Irish.

I'ma keep you. :flirt: You're welcome to rejoin with correct info, of course.

Sir Andy Mahowry
15-09-2022, 11:21 AM
I was wondering why you're Northern Irish.


:D

Giggles
15-09-2022, 11:28 AM
I was wondering why you're Northern Irish.

I'ma keep you. :flirt: You're welcome to rejoin with correct info, of course.

Work away, nothing I can do about that but I'd rather not be if I've any choice in the matter, I could have signed up if I had wanted to be (a DM verification would have been an idea really).

Ben
15-09-2022, 12:12 PM
I don't recall putting myself down as a striker? I should be like an 8 for that; send the big lad up for a bit of route 1 at the end.

Baz
15-09-2022, 01:12 PM
Work away, nothing I can do about that but I'd rather not be if I've any choice in the matter, I could have signed up if I had wanted to be (a DM verification would have been an idea really).
Well whoever it was took the time so do the attributes right.

Okay I won’t put you in, mizzog. Shame cos I was looking forward to seeing how a player who has every single one of his teammates as a disliked person deals with everyday life.

Giggles
15-09-2022, 01:18 PM
Thank you. I wouldn't have seen why you'd want anyone in it that didn't want to be, and was only put in as a pisstake, especially when such efforts were made to get people to sign up properly if they wanted to be.

I'd blame Sincere but I don't think he can tie his laces so probably wouldn't have managed counting anything up to 20.

niko_cee
15-09-2022, 01:35 PM
I thought I was going to be more of a leftback/wingback, so feel free to tinker me if you wish [or change to a needed position].

Headshot :

[spoiler]https://cdn.nba.com/headshots/nba/latest/1040x760/1884.png

Hats off to whoever did Giggles and made him hate everyone.

John Arne
15-09-2022, 01:42 PM
Baz You can change me to a normal ML to fill in the gap, if you like. Same stats.

EDIT: Ah, Niko also said the same. Feel free to do whatever is easiest.

Sir Andy Mahowry
15-09-2022, 01:49 PM
Okay I won’t put you in, mizzog. Shame cos I was looking forward to seeing how a player who has every single one of his teammates as a disliked person deals with everyday life.

:D

Keep him in ffs.

Offshore Toon
15-09-2022, 01:56 PM
Keep the player and call them Goggles or something. It's not like any of the information is actually correct.

igor_balis
15-09-2022, 01:58 PM
Keep the player and call them Goggles or something. It's not like any of the information is actually correct.

Jens Munstermann

Giggles
15-09-2022, 02:01 PM
He can do what he likes, I won't be paying any heed to it at all, so I'm not sure what stimulating mahow thinks he's going to get out of it in that case anyway. But if he wants to leave it in then as I said there's not a big pile I can do now is there?

I had the manners to stay out of it all completely from day one and not have my oar in it when I had no intention of signing up anyway, so no more could I do.

Lewis
15-09-2022, 03:02 PM
I don't recall putting myself down as a striker? I should be like an 8 for that; send the big lad up for a bit of route 1 at the end.

I don't think I put striker either. Proper lolling at Giggles' profile though.

CJay
15-09-2022, 05:12 PM
I don’t think I did striker either. Baz’s spreadsheet has gone rogue.

Gray Fox
15-09-2022, 05:13 PM
Onto the mentals creation bit, 20 is more of something, right? So as an example, 20 in controversy would be say Luis Suarez, but 1 would be Gary Lineker?

Spikey M
15-09-2022, 05:19 PM
Giggles picture:
https://i.ibb.co/TKrFMVh/a90-LHxkx-FAq2g-ESnkxs-LI0-Kkv6-L2v9-TTXhgj-EA6-LVwk.jpg

Lewis
15-09-2022, 05:27 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fYFguR0.jpg

More like.

igor_balis
15-09-2022, 06:35 PM
Onto the mentals creation bit, 20 is more of something, right? So as an example, 20 in controversy would be say Luis Suarez, but 1 would be Gary Lineker?

I feel like the game and database editor have always done a pretty shoddy job of clarifying things like that. When I was messing around with chairman stats like interference and stuff I was none the fucking wiser and even Reddit didn't seem to know.

Gray Fox
15-09-2022, 07:48 PM
Winged it. Fuck it.

randomlegend
15-09-2022, 07:51 PM
I feel like the game and database editor have always done a pretty shoddy job of clarifying things like that. When I was messing around with chairman stats like interference and stuff I was none the fucking wiser and even Reddit didn't seem to know.

If you hover over the stat for a few seconds, does a bubble pop up which explains it like in-game? That's my only suggestion.

Pretty sure 20 is more though yes, as a rule.

Baz
15-09-2022, 08:14 PM
I don't think I put striker either. Proper lolling at Giggles' profile though.His name was down as Spaghetti O’Sullivan. :D Supports Rangers and Milwall, dislikes Liverpool. 150cm tall, born in Londonderry with a second nationality of English.

And good news that we won’t have 11 strikers, now I’ve noticed the flaw and fixed the spreadsheet. :thbup:

Add Gray Fox to the pile, a centre mid whos also adept at DM and AM. :thbup:

You joining us randomlegend?

Lewis
15-09-2022, 08:23 PM
:lol:

Sir Andy Mahowry
15-09-2022, 08:31 PM
Keep it in.

Danny
15-09-2022, 08:40 PM
Smiff lurking to add Giggles :drool:

niko_cee
16-09-2022, 10:17 AM
His name was down as Spaghetti O’Sullivan.

:lol:

Baz
16-09-2022, 03:16 PM
Fixed it:

https://i.ibb.co/KWjK4vz/TTH2.png

Again, let me know if anything looks wrong and I'll shout at my formula.

New rundown of the team:
2 goalkeepers
4 leftbacks (4 l wingbacks)
2 rightbacks (2 r wingbacks)
7 centrehalves
7 centre mids (6 defensive, 9 attacking)
8 left attacking mids
3 right attacking mids
10 strikers

:harold:

Offshore Toon
16-09-2022, 03:17 PM
Joffylinton :cool:

Danny
16-09-2022, 03:20 PM
I have had DC added. I thought I set that to competent rather than anything you would see on the squad screen. Not a big deal since my attributes aren’t built for it.

Baz
16-09-2022, 03:39 PM
I have had DC added. I thought I set that to competent rather than anything you would see on the squad screen. Not a big deal since my attributes aren’t built for it.

You have:

DC Accomplished
DM Natural
MC Natural
AMC Natural

Happy to change DC to Competent if you want?

Also, for transparency, turns out the ranges I got off Google were false/outdated. Should have been (and in case anyone on Google is looking for FOOTBALL MANAGER POSITIONAL RATING VALUES)

2-4 Makeshift
5-8 Awkward
9-11 Unconvincing
12-14 Competent
15-17 Accomplished
18-20 Natural

But I've set all our Naturals to 20 due to one position having to be 20, and we've no makeshift anything besides Ben as a makeshift striker, based on a previous comment.

Anyway kits and badge! Thinking of asking Lorenzo (https://www.fmcustomkits.com/) to do us 3 kits and a badge.

What colours do we want? Presumably some bastard awful version of grey and gold to match the forum. :lol: What about away and third. Do the work for me, lads. Be creative. I'm a spreadsheet badboy, not a design maverick.

The order form asks for:
Team name: The Third Half, presumably?
Kit manufacturer (eg Nike):
Kit colours (home/away/third):
Kit sponsor:
"Anymore details about your kits":
Description of the badge:

That guys badges (https://www.fmcustomkits.com/logos) are quite decent, although probably just whipped up on Canva in 5 mins.

Unless our lads phonics and SvN want commissioning to do the badge and I just pay that website for some kits? Lorenzo asks for £15 for a logo but was gonna get the £25.50 2D + 3D + Custom Logo package.

Actually Sir Andy Mahowry what was that thing you used to generate kits? Were they as decent as these (https://www.fmcustomkits.com/2d-kits)?

Spikey M
16-09-2022, 03:50 PM
I thought Spaghetti O’Sullivan was a makeshift striker as well as a DM?

Don't care about colours but we should be sponsored by Stefan Postma and Stewart Lee.

Clunge
16-09-2022, 04:13 PM
Postma – what a blast from a shitty past.

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-09-2022, 04:37 PM
Baz

I followed this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvNG3U2v68Q

Here are some kits produced by it:

https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showthread.php?2948-Football-Manager-2022&p=519985&viewfull=1#post519985

Their Discord has a lot of Sponsor packs and various other bits too so you can really customise them.

igor_balis
16-09-2022, 07:02 PM
I like how many of us cunts have picked exactly AMLC/ST. I bet we all have natural right foot and "cuts inside from left wing" PPM :D

randomlegend
16-09-2022, 07:27 PM
His name was down as Spaghetti O’Sullivan. :D Supports Rangers and Milwall, dislikes Liverpool. 150cm tall, born in Londonderry with a second nationality of English.

And good news that we won’t have 11 strikers, now I’ve noticed the flaw and fixed the spreadsheet. :thbup:

Add Gray Fox to the pile, a centre mid whos also adept at DM and AM. :thbup:

You joining us randomlegend?

Done it, sorry I was slow.

Baz
16-09-2022, 07:30 PM
Baz


What colours do we want? Presumably some bastard awful version of grey and gold to match the forum. :lol:

https://i.ibb.co/x3mPHVB/The-Third-Half-1.png

Ugh.

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-09-2022, 08:01 PM
You can re-roll it multiple times, I ended up doing it when the design was too similar to last year and/or the sponsor didn't come out right.

Baz
19-09-2022, 09:03 PM
I've joined the team. :cool:

DL, MC, ST

https://i.ibb.co/MkFDFFJ/there-is-no-gaps.gif

Baz
22-09-2022, 04:08 PM
Suggestions welcome for people to use as the player photos for the following, please:

7om Danny Gray Fox Lewis Lofty Mazuuurk P_3 Spoonsky randomlegend

Lewis
22-09-2022, 04:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eBljBGM.jpg

I will use a great avatar of years gone by.

thommo
22-09-2022, 05:26 PM
Might be late but I've submitted a player entry. Loyalty 20, true to the TTH cause.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-09-2022, 05:47 PM
Might be late but I've submitted a player entry. Loyalty 20, true to the TTH cause.
Fulham Michael Jackson statue as your player photo?

Baz
22-09-2022, 08:19 PM
Might be late but I've submitted a player entry. Loyalty 20, true to the TTH cause.
Nice one. The more the merrier. The deadline I set was Friday 4th November so plenty of time for people to still join the squad.

Everyone has been assigned a photo now (cheers Mahow), but if anyone wishes to choose their own representative, you're more than welcome to.

Disappointed Disco hasn't signed up, had a Tommy Saxondale photo ready for him.

7om
22-09-2022, 09:38 PM
1996 Lex Luger

Gray Fox
22-09-2022, 11:35 PM
It can only be the great man.

https://cdn.winknews.com/wp-content/uploads/20150905200347/tim-tebow.jpg

Disco
22-09-2022, 11:41 PM
I hadn't seen this but if you've prepared a picture I suppose I should make the effort.

Danny
23-09-2022, 01:39 AM
You have:

DC Accomplished
DM Natural
MC Natural
AMC Natural

Happy to change DC to Competent if you want?

Don’t worry about it. I shouldn’t get a game there anyway!

For the pic give me Bombhead from Hollyoaks. People used to tell me I looked like him back in the day. It might not have been a compliment but it worked out.

John Arne
23-09-2022, 02:51 AM
My picture, please.

https://gyazo.com/bcdf097300b33ba482abbce35db87dcb.jpeg

Baz
23-09-2022, 04:43 AM
My picture, please.

https://gyazo.com/bcdf097300b33ba482abbce35db87dcb.jpeg

Noooo I have the perfect picture lined up for you. :( But fair enough I did not expect you to be black and I apologise.

But look!

https://media.thetab.com/blogs.dir/20/files/2013/05/ginger.jpg


It can only be the great man.

https://cdn.winknews.com/wp-content/uploads/20150905200347/tim-tebow.jpg
Ah fair enough. You were Oscar Isaac but at least now you look like a professional athlete.

John Arne
23-09-2022, 06:18 AM
Noooo I have the perfect picture lined up for you. :( But fair enough I did not expect you to be black and I apologise.

But look!

https://media.thetab.com/blogs.dir/20/files/2013/05/ginger.jpg


Ah fair enough. You were Oscar Isaac but at least now you look like a professional athlete.

Go on, use the one you had line up :D

Spikey M
23-09-2022, 07:54 AM
It can only be the 'coaster pic for Lofty.

Or Ed Kemper.

Baz
23-09-2022, 07:53 PM
Right lads I'm down in the dumps so throw some kits at me.

Figured because grey is dreadful we'll play in GOLD to match this logo SvN probably made in under a minute:

https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/images/misc/tth-grey.png

Mobile skin users seeing that for the first time right now

https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/icegif-149.gif

Yes kits. Show me some kits you like or think we should wear.

Probably gonna copy Nottm Forest and go sponsorless cos a) it looks better and b) I don't know which sponsor to use. :baz:

Home, away, third, go go go.

Before we end up with a TTH badge stuck on something plain like this:

https://www.prodirectsoccer.com/ProductImages/Main/215158_Main_Thumb_0764397.jpg

You don't need to suggest gold kits. Just kits you like and they can be recoloured gold. Or not gold? Whatever. You tell me what colours then. But say if there's a kit you know of that you like the pattern on or something.

So say you like this St. Helens rugby league-esque Leyton Orient kit

https://www.uksoccershop.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/leyton_orient_18_19_commemorative_fourth_kit_a.jpe g

only in gold with a black V or black with a gold V, say so. And it might happen.

(I was thinking really really dark grey/almost black/charcoal with a gold V for the away kit actually)

Maybe you're a sucker for hoops, stripes, wycombe squares, blackburn halves, coventry braces, croatia checkers, etc. What should we have?

Should the third kit be the 'Offshore would wear this to Leeds festival' vibes like

https://i8.amplience.net/i/jpl/jd_HB0444_b?qlt=92&w=750&h=957&v=1&fmt=auto

Or something completely understated like the Arsenal whiteout kit:

https://cdn.fifakitcreator.com/kits/2022/01/07/61d808a82fbee.jpg

First draft of the badge is this:

https://i.ibb.co/DYSxZ6w/Third-Football-1copy.png

But consider it work in progress.

Less on that, more on kits.

And more signups obviously. Disco Bam still plenty time but yes please both join us.

Offshore Toon
23-09-2022, 07:56 PM
That's a sexy top but football shirts only get worn for exercise.

Giggles
23-09-2022, 07:58 PM
Right lads I'm down in the dumps

After his thread so far, you deserve it for being a prick and playing up to mahow :)

Baz
23-09-2022, 08:00 PM
After his thread so far, you deserve it for being a prick and playing up to mahow :)

What are you on about?

niko_cee
23-09-2022, 08:23 PM
I like the badge.

It looks like Optimus Prime doing :eek:

Mike
23-09-2022, 08:25 PM
https://api.goaljerseys.com.cn/upload/20220303/1646292195993525.jpg
But a map of St Helens

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-09-2022, 08:31 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/572A/production/_108241322_grouponev2.jpg

But make it BoltonMassiv's chicken and brocolli on pasta.

Alternatively one of DS' kebabs, a TTH munch box or RL's scorum pizza.

Mike
23-09-2022, 08:52 PM
ASDA Pizza to sponsor us?

Baz
24-09-2022, 03:45 PM
I like the badge.

It looks like Optimus Prime doing :eek:

Thanks.

https://i.ibb.co/XDfbqcZ/50-A1-E739-5064-4269-A2-B4-3346-BDBF25-DB.png

This is better though right?

Lewis
24-09-2022, 04:02 PM
POV you're 7om getting bollocked for buying the wrong chicken arses.

7om
24-09-2022, 04:08 PM
:D

What

Lewis
24-09-2022, 04:24 PM
https://i.ibb.co/SxwckVB/chink.png

'dis rast time i sen' you shop wi'ou shoppin' rist'

7om
24-09-2022, 05:48 PM
You sod.

randomlegend
24-09-2022, 06:41 PM
:lol:

Lofty
24-09-2022, 07:43 PM
It can only be the 'coaster pic for Lofty.

Or Ed Kemper.

Loftinho is a Rachel Dolezal character:

https://i.ibb.co/cFHbsLW/Happynegro.jpg

Disco
26-09-2022, 05:53 PM
Do you need any particular positions?

Baz
26-09-2022, 06:42 PM
Do you need any particular positions?Probably a safe bet to chose anywhere down the right.

Baz
02-10-2022, 08:25 AM
While eagerly awaiting FM23 I've done some very non-scientific testing regarding current ability and come to the conclusion that 77 current ability is the sweet spot.

https://i.imgur.com/ozeji9f.png

We won the league on goal difference after having a media prediction of 2nd, so I'd say it's perfectly balanced for National League North but should feasibly get promoted. And -10 potential (random between 170-200) should see us press on well into the second season in, hopefully, the National League.

I should stipulate that all players were created to have their requested positions but all attributes were just clones of Harvey Elliott. :baz:

Just one decision left to make, I think:
Gold home kit and black away kit or black home kit and gold away kit?

Offshore Toon
02-10-2022, 09:30 AM
Gold home easily.

niko_cee
02-10-2022, 11:17 AM
Don't think I've done a non-league wonderkid style save since creating Harchester Uniited back when Dream Team was a thing. I recall it being very hard to keep hold of the players back then. If we're all high PA aren't we all just going to be trying to leave at the earliest opportunity?

Gray Fox
02-10-2022, 11:21 AM
I think that's where your loyalty/professionalism stats might help.

You could also lock people to the club for say 20 years on one save, then run it again without that to see the difference for TTH the club.

igor_balis
02-10-2022, 01:33 PM
I think even with 1ambition 20 loyalty "preference to - play for tth fc" etc they'll still all be gone very quickly, so I'd say it's not worth fannying around with.

I like your idea of running two saves concurrently though cus it would be fun to see where everyone went without being held hostage with my patented 25 years contract with future dated transfer method Gray Fox

Offshore Toon
02-10-2022, 02:30 PM
When does this kick off?

randomlegend
02-10-2022, 03:17 PM
When does this kick off?

Full game release date is 8th November, beta usually comes out 2 weeks before.

Baz
02-10-2022, 04:33 PM
Full game release date is 8th November, beta usually comes out 2 weeks before.The editor doesn’t come with the beta so will start editing on 8th November and then run some test seasons, so hopefully no later than Friday 11th November.

randomlegend
02-10-2022, 04:34 PM
:thbup:

igor_balis
22-11-2022, 03:28 PM
:eyemouth: Baz

Baz
24-11-2022, 10:35 AM
Everyone is made. Any last minute additions or requests?

In the most recent holidayed season, Tim Flowers was appointed as manager and he sold about 10 players and came 3rd.

Lots more testing to follow before getting stuck in.

Baz
25-11-2022, 11:16 PM
I've been playing about with the "FUTURE_REGEN" options for the people who didn't sign up. It works. :)
wullie going on loan to Coventry was the highlight:

https://i.imgur.com/suscjks.png

So now I'm making a list of those, just to add more time to this thing.


"FUTURE_REGEN" "Jimmy" "Jimmy Floyd" "Floyd" "27-03-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Francis" "Giggles" "Walsh" "25-12-2006" "Ireland" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Shin" "Shindig" "Dig" "04-04-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Ian" "Ian" "Welby" "08-11-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "MC" "Phonics" "Phonics" "31-12-2006" "Switzerland" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Sergeant" "Disco" "Disco" "09-09-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Andy" "Kikó" "Dawson" "07-08-2006" "Italy" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Pepe" "Pepe" "Pepe" "05-05-2006" "Mexico" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Shane" "Wafflez" "Waffdon" "01-06-2006" "Scotland" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Taymaz" "Taz" "Rad" "11-09-2006" "Iran" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Raoul" "Raoul Duke" "Duke" "07-03-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "M" "Browning" "Browning" "18-11-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Shrewd" "SvN" "van Nistelrooy" "04-04-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Cameron" "Foe" "Clark" "15-05-2006" "Scotland" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "D" "Dquincy" "Quincy" "28-02-2006" "England" "The Third Half"
"FUTURE_REGEN" "Oor" "Wullie" "Wullie" "24-10-2006" "England" "The Third Half"

first name - common name - surname - dob - nationality - favourite club

Got a spreadsheet set up for the formatting so just gonna go through the members list/WDYTOE and add people not in the TTH team.

Baz
25-11-2022, 11:17 PM
Bloody hell Jimmy Floyd doing bits

https://i.imgur.com/0quWhPG.png

Lewis
25-11-2022, 11:19 PM
It's given him a wig as well.

Gray Fox
25-11-2022, 11:26 PM
Baz so you can set it so it generates whatever person you want in the next youth intake?

Spikey M
25-11-2022, 11:30 PM
Where am I you slag?

Sir Andy Mahowry
25-11-2022, 11:33 PM
Cleaning Jimmy's boots.

Lewis
25-11-2022, 11:50 PM
'Spaghetti O'Sullivan' is still hilarious.

Baz
26-11-2022, 02:25 AM
Baz so you can set it so it generates whatever person you want in the next youth intake?I think it’s random what year they come in, and it’s certainly random which team they come through it.

Giggles
26-11-2022, 04:07 AM
This probably would have been a good read but it’s left now that it’s not worth opening the thread at all you snide little prick.

Baz
26-11-2022, 07:03 AM
This probably would have been a good read but it’s left now that it’s not worth opening the thread at all you snide little prick.What?

Waffdon
26-11-2022, 09:28 AM
This probably would have been a good read but it’s left now that it’s not worth opening the thread at all you snide little prick.

:D

igor_balis
26-11-2022, 12:05 PM
This probably would have been a good read but it’s left now that it’s not worth opening the thread at all you snide little prick.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-11-2022, 12:13 PM
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Have you had a stroke?

7om
26-11-2022, 12:34 PM
Okay then I’ll be there at this one lol and then we can do that

randomlegend
26-11-2022, 12:39 PM
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Vintage.

randomlegend
26-11-2022, 12:39 PM
Baz how many ballon d'Ors have I won so far?

Gray Fox
02-12-2022, 11:56 PM
As it isn't a "proper" save I think it's best to put the TTH FC stuff in here. I'm going to start with a club update in what I see as the 'proper timeline(first sim run)' I'll then move onto the players.

Well here it goes. Welcome to 2050.

https://i.gyazo.com/3d7d5a9cde33ebef7a57d95a72da8580.png

As you can see, the club raced itself straight out of the National League North and so nearly followed that up with back-to-back promotions but were beaten 1-0 by Rochdale in the play-off final. It was a pretty one sided affair too. No complaints could be had.
It should be said there was a mass exodus of members of the board in season one. 13 of us left in January and by the end of the following summers transfer window, only 8 remained.
By the time we got to said play-off final only Mahow, 7om and Niko Cee remained at the club. They all then left the window after.

As you can see from there it was quite slow progress. We had touched League One a bit sooner than I thought after having seen that 5th place finish in the National League. Though we clearly weren't ready.
After some very close calls of nearly falling back out of the Football League, we smashed one season and didn't look back. Fully established League One side. We got to the Championship towards the end of the run where there was heartbreak. TTH was 2-0 up at HT on the final day. One more goal and they would have stayed up, but then they let the lead slip and were relegated by 2 points, following a 2-2 draw.

As for significant managers, we've only really had two. The original custodian and responsible for our rise into the football league was Tim Flowers :cool: .

From there it was a litany of failures as managers would be lucky to last more than a year and a half. Joe Byran lasted a whole 14 days in charge before he was taken out back and shot. We even had Sean Longstaff have a go and fail.

The only other guy to come out of this with credit was Japhet Tanganga. Not only was he responsible for the promotion to the Championship but he gave us our only silverware when this happened in the same season:

https://i.gyazo.com/7f4d8c56f2de6838d4f416486360175c.png

We've never been past the third round of the FA Cup or the second round of the League Cup.

Unfortunately none of us made it to even the favoured personnel list as we were mostly all gone inside a year. Finances are 'secure' and the training facilities are excellent.

If anyone wants to know anything else do let me know and I'll grab it. I think as Baz is finding in his play through, the lads are all leaving and he can only delay it for so long. Whether the club being professional at the start of the game or not would help, is perhaps for another experiment.

Sir Andy Mahowry
03-12-2022, 12:05 AM
How many Balon d'Or's have I won?

Gray Fox
21-12-2022, 05:50 PM
So from the experiment I did for Club TTH I got us to 2050. As seen in the update above. I've (hopefully) linked the file below for anyone to have a mooch around. I did try and set everyone to keep their history after retirement, but if there are issues let me know.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/wxet86b75eylsgb/TTH_Experiment_2050.06.20.fm/file