May the Fourthball be with you

[Manc]

Conte is unhinged.

[phonics]

Ah well. Good to see that only decided the game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ah well. Good to see that only decided the game.

What did you think of the decision? Ref doing a good job?

[Mellberg]

'Ello West 'Am.

[Alex]

I don't think I've ever seen a Leeds side display less attacking prowess than this current incarnation. Just absolutely no plan whatsoever going forward. We may have plugged the hole at the back to some extent but this is just ugly, directionless, awful football. I've said it before and will say it again - we should have gone down with Marcelo.

[niko_cee]

Would he be up for taking the job back when you go down?

[Shindig]

Prince Albert of Monaco is here. Apparently he became a West Ham fan after they signed Dimitri Payet and he is here as a guest of Mark Noble.

That's a collection of words I didn't expect to be writing when I started my shift.

Mark Noble, friends in high places. :D

[Spikey M]

Ah well. Good to see that only decided the game.

:harold:

[Ben]

Haaland is worth all that money just so they have someone who can score a penalty.

[randomlegend]

Napoli 3-0 up, about to confirm Juventus finishing 4th.

Chortle my nuts.

[Spikey M]

And Ronaldo is outscoreding the Liverpool front three too.

[randomlegend]

:baz:

[Alex]

Fucking injury time equaliser. Burnley lose twice and we stay up. Nothing to worry about, right? :uhoh:

I suppose at least it takes it to the last day, regardless. I'm glad but also feel physically unwell. It's a strange mixture of emotions.

[Mellberg]

Relegation battles :sick:

When Lerner gave up and we were complete toilet for five years I was looking forward to an inevitable relegation. When it came it was relatively painless as we were a complete joke and down in about January. But the one two years ago having just come back up was excruciating. The Championship was great, but we’re finally moving forward and that would’ve been a huge setback. Guessing Leeds feel the same, but probably magnified as they were down for 16 (?) years.

I hope you stay up anyway. It’s still fresh having Leeds in the Prem and Leeds/Villa has some good needle.

[Spoonsky]

Uh oh Everton

That first header by Wissa is unbelievably good.

[Spikey M]

Lol

[Shindig]

Relegation battles :sick:

When Lerner gave up and we were complete toilet for five years I was looking forward to an inevitable relegation. When it came it was relatively painless as we were a complete joke and down in about January. But the one two years ago having just come back up was excruciating. The Championship was great, but we’re finally moving forward and that would’ve been a huge setback. Guessing Leeds feel the same, but probably magnified as they were down for 16 (?) years.

I hope you stay up anyway. It’s still fresh having Leeds in the Prem and Leeds/Villa has some good needle.

Aye, I like having sides like Leeds in the mix. I'd love Forest to go up as well. Relegation never really bothered me. It's not like there's a great injustice involved when a team is tripe for most of the season.

[niko_cee]

Looks like the lolfest shit-off is at the bottom this year rather than for the 4th place trophy.

What's Everton's record like before and after Lampard? Has he got it in him to take them down next season if he fails this time?

[Gray Fox]

Anyone but Sheffield United coming up would be grand(sorry Hammer). Getting Forest back is the preference.

Losing either Everton or Leeds would be lovely. Burnley going down would likely see them drift down the leagues.

[Giggles]

Who are the other two championship teams in the playoffs?

[niko_cee]

Huddersfield and Luton.

Luton v Forest final is the ideal. Nathan Jones and Steve Cooper are both excellent.

[Giggles]

Fuck if I’d have guessed for a week I wouldn’t have said Luton. Didn’t even think they were in the league at all.

Did they get cashed up?

[niko_cee]

They've had a fairly meteoric rise I think [although have apparently been in the championship for 3 seasons].

[Gray Fox]

From what I can tell exactly the opposite, they've recruited very shrewdly on a thin budget.

[niko_cee]

Well, they've gone conference to the cusp of the premier league in what, 8 years? I'd call that meteoric. Had Jones not been tempted by that whole Stoke business maybe it'd have been quicker as well.

Looks like they've followed a Yev managerial trajectory, with a few rest and build phases.

[Spoonsky]

Holy fuck that tackle :D

[Shindig]

What's Everton's record like before and after Lampard? Has he got it in him to take them down next season if he fails this time?

Better than Rafa but it's very win/lose. Watford was his first draw of the season which means they're a bunch of fragile mentality monsters.

[Shindig]

Oh, they can't lose Rondon! He's like .... the lifeblood of ... something.

[Ben]

Rondon fucking hell :D

[Gray Fox]

Well, they've gone conference to the cusp of the premier league in what, 8 years? I'd call that meteoric. Had Jones not been tempted by that whole Stoke business maybe it'd have been quicker as well.

Looks like they've followed a Yev managerial trajectory, with a few rest and build phases.

That was Giggles to be fair.

There's a Luton fan at work and he genuinely can't even believe they're mixing it up at the top of the Championship, never mind what could come next.

[Giggles]

Well, they've gone conference to the cusp of the premier league in what, 8 years? I'd call that meteoric. Had Jones not been tempted by that whole Stoke business maybe it'd have been quicker as well.

Looks like they've followed a Yev managerial trajectory, with a few rest and build phases.

I think he meant the opposite of ‘cashed up’. They still have Kenilworth Road too :drool: Are there any regulations that would stop them using it in the top flight?

[niko_cee]

Just had to check David Pleat is still alive.

Good.

[Shindig]

Is Kenilworth the one with the sloped pitch? :D

[Giggles]

I remember the plastic one from the last time they were in the top flight. A real proper plastic one.

[mo]

You have to go through someone's garden to get into the away end. Not sure if it's sloped though.

[Ben]

Yeovil has (had?) a massive slope.

[SincereTheRebel]

Watching this AC Milan game and Theo Hernandez has dribbled the ball from his box, took on 10 men and scored to make it 2-0. Goerge Weah style

[Lofty]

https://i.ibb.co/R2qzvDZ/FB-IMG-1652636361474.jpg

[SincereTheRebel]

Watching this AC Milan game and Theo Hernandez has dribbled the ball from his box, took on 10 men and scored to make it 2-0. Goerge Weah style

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[niko_cee]

Double Marsden line. :cool:

I thought Italy was meant to be the home of defending.

[phonics]

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[niko_cee]

I see old Wazza has tried to one-up City in the small time stakes by 'calling into question' QPR's involvement in the Aguero statue game.

If they really wanted City to win it seems an odd way to go about it.

[Browning]

QPR needed a result until Bolton's score came through. If they "wanted City to win" (which I don't believe, but still), they only wanted it for the last few minutes.

[Kikó]

Mark Noble.

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[Jimmy Floyd]

I've heard from sources he's a bit unprofessional. Leaves his smelly boots around the training ground, often late, doesn't really take his club duties seriously, etc.

[niko_cee]

Year to the day since Alisson scored against West Brom.

It's slightly surreal looking back just 12 months and seeing how wank Liverpool were.

[Waffdon]

Give it a rest :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've heard from sources he's a bit unprofessional. Leaves his smelly boots around the training ground, often late, doesn't really take his club duties seriously, etc.
Wash your mouth out. He's a captain, a hero and a legend.

[Spikey M]

Ian, can you hold Jimmy's arms behind his back for me please?

[Ian]

Mark Noble.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Which is what we'll all chant whilst beating down anyone who dares to insult the great man.

[Ben]

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Said footballer is 17 year old Jake Daniels of Blackpool. Fair play to someone so young for having the balls.

[Manc]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/16/jake-daniels-becomes-first-uk-male-footballer-to-come-out-as-gay-since-1990

Is he signing a deal with the devil?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well that's this years Christmas thread spoiled now.

[Lewis]

A seventeen year old at Blackpool wouldn't normally be leading the BBC page unless he had killed someone, which probably explains why anybody of a higher profile would keep it to themselves.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I almost fear he's a bit too young to really know what he's getting himself into.

[phonics]

Finding out that Spurs final game of the season is Norwich was a real downer.

[mo]

I almost fear he's a bit too young to really know what he's getting himself into.

This has crossed my mind. But fair fucks to him for leading the way on this, hopefully others will feel empowered by this.

[Giggles]

I thought they couldn’t catch Arsenal anyway?

[Gray Fox]

I thought they couldn’t catch Arsenal anyway?

They couldn't until they battered Arsenal the other day.

If they don't beat Newcastle here then it's out of their hands.

[Giggles]

They couldn't until they battered Arsenal the other day.

If they don't beat Newcastle here then it's out of their hands.

Yeah if Arsenal win their games it wouldn’t matter if Spurs were playing a girls under 11 team in their last game.

[phonics]

Yes and it doesn’t look like we’re winning tonight and Everton will be battling to stay up. Don’t start your Liverpool nonsense pls. We lost to Southampton, Brighton and Palace a month ago.

[Spikey M]

If I know Tottenham like I think I know Tottenham, they'll lose to Norwich anyway.

[Giggles]

Yes and it doesn’t look like we’re winning tonight and Everton will be battling to stay up. Don’t start your Liverpool nonsense pls. We lost to Southampton, Brighton and Palace a month ago.

Then if they finish 5th they’ve plenty of games to look back at.

[Lofty]

Finding out that Spurs final game of the season is Norwich was a real downer.

Remember that year they lost 5-1 to an already relegated Newcastle on tbe final day :D

[phonics]

Then if they finish 5th they’ve plenty of games to look back at.

Yes I’m not sure why this matters seeing as you can’t change the past? If we’d won all our games we’d be champions.

[Gray Fox]

Also finishing 3rd in a two-horse race was special.

[Giggles]

There’s no point in ever mentioning anything then seeing as everything is in the past.

Anyway here’s absolutely no point in bothering with you when you get like this though, so that’ll do me. The snarky bitch act is becoming far too common again.

[phonics]

See why I cared about who Spurs were playing now old man?

[Kikó]

Huddersfield and Luton will be immediately relegated.

[Giggles]

Huddersfield and Luton will be immediately relegated.

From where?

[Gray Fox]

Arsenal have brought this on themselves for not wearing their red kit.

[phonics]

Ramsdale has kept us in this game. Just too many injuries and fucking up those 3 games killed the season.

[thommo]

:harold:

What has the ref done to Arsenal tonight then?

[Waffdon]

Arsenal have brought this on themselves for not wearing their red kit.

You have to wear the away kit or whatever a certain amount of times a year

[Baz]

Huddersfield and Luton will be immediately relegated.

Sorba Thomas is class though.

[niko_cee]

Injuries have obviously hindered Arsenal, but, at the end of the day, they have too many bang average players to be thinking about being in the Champions League, without any real talismanic figures to pull them into it. Spurs probably not an awful lot better, but Kane and Son shoulder a burden of work that Saka et al can't really match.

Having to play the likes of Cedric and Elneny a major red flag.

Pepe is also just one of those club killing signings that can happen when you're grasping to be part of the elite. He's so bad.

[phonics]

Gonna go sit on a bench drink an extra strength polish lager and listen to linkin park.

[Gray Fox]

Ramsdale seems very good, Martinelli, Saka and ESR fall into the high potential but yet to see it consistently category and you can pretty much bin the rest.

[phonics]

Just seen that we can beat Everton 17-0 and get in the CL. ITS STILL ON.

[Browning]

Really is a great bottle job. There's just no backbone to the team. When the going gets tough they play at a League One standard. Even that is generous on Auba who was playing pub level football before he got out.

[phonics]

Ramsdale seems very good, Martinelli, Saka and ESR fall into the high potential but yet to see it consistently category and you can pretty much bin the rest.

Tierney is good but can’t stay fit. Tomiyasu is quality but constantly rushed back from injury because the backup is awful. Partey Takes 800 matches to regain match fitness. Ødegaard is good but needs the team to work for him to work. We literally won’t have a single striker next year. Both defenders are good and Saliba just won Ligue 1 player of the season. Is a matter of turning an 11 man squad into a 19.

[phonics]

Really is a great bottle job. There's just no backbone to the team. When the going gets tough they play at a League One standard. Even that is generous on Auba who was playing pub level football before he got out.

This is just wrong. Team was expected to finish 7-8th this year and will finish a point off 5th. Youngest team in the league by an average of 2 years. Don’t see how that constitutes bottling it.

[Shindig]

Odegaard had his moments too. (as Phonics has said. I should've got this post up instead of switching tabs for ten minutes) Spurs have way more to offer, though. Kane and Son are dependable, Kulusevski's improved the midfield, too. And they have Bergwijn to come off the bench. Forever. :(

[Browning]

It's the manner of it. They go through periods of being able to dismantle teams like Chelsea, showing the quality is there, and then take 0 points from 3 games against Southampton, Brighton and Palace or whatever it was. Absolute shambles.

You'd have taken 5th at the start of the season, but in reality they should have finished top 4, and would have if they didn't have numerous periods of playing like a side who should be relegated.

[phonics]

I would have taken 7th. As I say the average age of the squad is years younger than anyone around their quality. Inconsistency is to be expected.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/altersschnitt/wettbewerb/GB1

‘You should have finished 4th and also played like a team who should be relegated’ is just absolute idiot talk.

[-james-]

It's the manner of it. They go through periods of being able to dismantle teams like Chelsea, showing the quality is there, and then take 0 points from 3 games against Southampton, Brighton and Palace or whatever it was. Absolute shambles.

You'd have taken 5th at the start of the season, but in reality they should have finished top 4, and would have if they didn't have numerous periods of playing like a side who should be relegated.

Nobody had them on for 5th at the start of the season, more like 8th or 9th. Bottom half was talked about after the first three games. It's a squad with great potential, just no depth at all.

[Browning]

The point is they are going to miss out by 2 points, despite having the awful spell at the start of the season and that diabolical 3 game spell not long ago, plus the past 2 games where they've played like absolute shite. Maybe they've over achieved based on pre-season expectations but there's no chance they should have missed out from the position they got themselves into, and the only reason they have is because they keep having these spells of 3-4 games where they just don't bother to turn up.

The squad definitely needs strengthening, there's no argument there, but it's just ridiculously frustrating to see them slip up so badly so many times and still be so close.

[Shindig]

As for the inconsistency, everyone around them has thrown some in. Conte spent chunks of the season looking like a man one phone call from death, West Ham eventually settled for a much more sensible position, United are a complete shambles and Chelsea have struggled to put sides away. Outside of the top two, it's up for grabs.

[phonics]

So what you’re saying is that 4th would have been overachieving?

[Don]

Lofty went to the defence of Nketiah the other day as if he wasn't Franny Jeffers with a heavy tan. Arteta and that entire team are just pure frauds.

[Shindig]

So what you’re saying is that 4th would have been overachieving?

Nah, I'm saying any one of three could've done it. 'The bottlejob' is not a uniquely Arsenal problem. It infects the league from 3rd downwards.

[phonics]

Almost like it wouldn’t be a bottle job.

[Lofty]

I'd hardly call it a defence, more just an easy way to bait you.

A team of pure frauds that were tipped to finish 8th and finished above a United team that reinforced with a load of megastars :sorry:

The main issue is the lack of depth outside the first choice 11. Striker is a problem regardless but they were getting around that until injuries had them drafting in El Neny, Cedric and Tavares in key positions. Turns out when four of your players are nowhere near good enough it drags the team down somewhat. Never mind the likes of Pepe etc.

I genuinely believe if decent strikers are signed, and maybe a first choice midfielder to replace Xhaka (finally!) Then next season will be a lot better, but it is contingent on having a bench that isn't 'kids and people we want to leave'.

[Lewis]

They were tipped to finish eighth, but have been less shit than United, Leicester, and West Ham have dropped right off, so they have ended up fifth with less than seventy point. I'm not sure it proves anything either way.

[Lewis]

Well, except that This Summer is Massive for *team in question*.

[Don]

Squad depth/age/potential keep getting thrown about as some defence. You had the highest spend in the entire league and there's very little achieved for all of it in 12 months.

[phonics]

Squad depth/age/potential keep getting thrown about as some defence. You had the highest spend in the entire league and there's very little achieved for all of it in 12 months.
Liverpool spent what Arsenal paid for 6 players on 2 players. Such a fraudulent stat. The team was dead and full of absolute guff on 200k a week. This year was about removing said guff on free transfers because they were so overpaid and re-upping the squad.

[Don]

Tavares, Lokonga, Odegaard. These are not serious players so you've wasted the season. Saka, ESR and Martinelli under a top manager would have pulled up trees this season.

[phonics]

They all cost less than Adam Lallana?

[phonics]

Xhakas about to get a load of shit for his interview when he's completely correct.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They did fine over the whole season, the run-in has seen them shit their pants though.

[niko_cee]

Remember when Piers Morgan said they had the best front three in world football?

Worked out well.

[niko_cee]

Lofty went to the defence of Nketiah the other day as if he wasn't Franny Jeffers with a heavy tan. Arteta and that entire team are just pure frauds.

Tier Zero (https://www.footballfancast.com/liverpool-transfer-rumours/liverpool-eddie-nketiah-transfer-news-arsenal-lfc-jurgen-klopp-premier-league-update-gossip-rumour)

[phonics]

Remember when Piers Morgan said they had the best front three in world football?

Worked out well.

I'd rather know what Bin Laden had to say about the front three.

[Mellberg]

Good in the air.

[Spikey M]

Explosive options.

[Baz]

No salah mane Trent or VVD

[Don]

Elliott time, baby.

[Giggles]

No salah mane Trent or VVD

5-0 Southampton.

[-james-]

Alisson
Gomez Konate Matip Tsimikas
Milner Jones Elliott
Minamino Firmino Jota

:harold:

[Shindig]

They should push for some early goals and hope Southampton fold. If goal difference becomes a factor, these mugs might provide it.

[Boydy]

Minamino? Ffs, throwing any chance of the league away tonight then.

[Gray Fox]

Can’t come down to goal difference now really. The events it would need are far too outlandish.

Looks a lot like Klopp accepting the league is just too unlikely and to keep an eye on Paris.

[Baz]

Minamino? Ffs, throwing any chance of the league away tonight then.

Our top scorer in both competitions that we’ve won so far, I think you’ll find. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Fat lady warming up.

[Guybrush]

What a finish.

[Gray Fox]

Banging finish for Taki too.

Someone needs to slap Curtis Jones and tell him he is actually allowed to play a first time pass.

[-james-]

Southampton are proper stink.

[Spoonsky]

Looks a lot like Klopp accepting the league is just too unlikely and to keep an eye on Paris.

I don't think so. Just win the last two games and hope City drop points. Without breaking your best players before a Champions League final.

This team should beat Southampton too.

[Spoonsky]

Lol, who plays right back if Gomez is injured? Milner?

[Gray Fox]

The correct answer to who plays position X if a player gets injured is always James Milner.

Been pretty good this from the side out there. Just a shame we let Redmond get his shot off.

[Gray Fox]

Such a strange deflection that.

[Waffdon]

How do they keep getting away with it

[Guybrush]

How do they keep getting away with it

Getting away with what? Since they scored they haven't had a kick.

[Waffdon]

Exactly

[Lewis]

When United were good I think the only game I went in to knowing they would lose was the 2011 Champions' League final. Why do Liverpool fans carry on like they're doomed whenever a couple of their ten ace players get a day off?

[Don]

Don't judge us on the absolute melts that congregate on here.

[Lewis]

The real world fanbase makes acoustic covers of all their chants. The TTH Redmen might be the cream of the crop.

[Waffdon]

Seen him the other day advertising a direct flight from Liverpool to Paris and home the same night for £600pp. Proper socialist eh

[Lewis]

Absolutely immense 'gamesmanship' from the Forest 'keeper. :cool:

[Lewis]

He's done it twice.

[Giggles]

That penalty from Hourihane :face:

[-james-]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a penalty save like that second Sheffield United one.

[Lewis]

This has got it all. I didn't even watch the game.

[Giggles]

That one’s in the river.

[Lewis]

Pitch invasion wahey.

[Giggles]

Keeper has absolutely donned that whole thing :cool:

[Danny]

That run up. Never scoring.

[Gray Fox]

Samba just donned that. That second one was amazing.

[Giggles]

The one in extra time was the best of the lot.

[Don]

We know very well black keepers aren't a thing but Samba's swagger :drool:

[Don]

Also, wtf is Berge still doing there? Get him in the CL. And get this ting into my bedroom.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FS_XHLPWAAAGARm?format=jpg&name=large

[thommo]

:D

I did appreciate the cameraman spotting her before the pens.

Brice Samba is a class keeper but he's been acting the cunt in the Championship for 3-4 seasons now and I'd rather not see it in the Prem next year. All in on Huddersfield in the final.

[Don]

https://www.instagram.com/britneydevilliers/?hl=en

MGW's bird. He'll be decent for Wolves next season too.

[Manc]

Tremendous.

[Gray Fox]

Phwoar.

[Waffdon]

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[Lewis]

Yellow jumper man doesn't even break stride. What a hit.

[Lewis]

It was a running headbutt fucking hell. I thought it was just a bump.

[phonics]

Good to know he'll be in prison while they're in the Prem.

[Mellberg]

46 min Off we go again! During the break, a mate messaged to tell me that Brennan Johnson is now the second player to score in both legs of a Championship playoff semi-final. The first was his dad, 19 years ago, in a tie involving same two teams. That’s a bazzer.

Stat of the year.

Huddersfield - Forest is proper baddies versus goodies territory. Only one winner from that please.

[-james-]

Who are the baddies?

[Jimmy Floyd]

These pitch invasions are very heads-have-gone. They always used to pass off without those involved having to go MENTAL or induce SCENES. Guess it's the coke talking.

[Mellberg]

Who are the baddies?

I had a drink last night, so I'm not sure. Bet it was a good one though.

[Giggles]

Jaysus that's some clatter.

[Luke Emia]

When United were good I think the only game I went in to knowing they would lose was the 2011 Champions' League final. Why do Liverpool fans carry on like they're doomed whenever a couple of their ten ace players get a day off?

Because we spent 20 years of United winning everything in sight as well as lolling at us on the very few occasions when we did have a team that was even remotely close. Then whenever we did seem to have a decent team things would implode the following season 01/02, 08/09 and 13/14 were all followed by us being absolutely dogshit the following season.

[Don]

Fam, don't compare this Klopp side to that other shit.

Konate looked like a beast but also one capable of dozing off a few months, if not weeks ago. It's taken the Nazi less than a season to turn him into peak VVD and fortify our position at the top of the game for the next 10 years. Frightening.

[Lewis]

Who are the baddies?

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[Yevrah]

Fam, don't compare this Klopp side to that other shit.

Konate looked like a beast but also one capable of dozing off a few months, if not weeks ago. It's taken the Nazi less than a season to turn him into peak VVD and fortify our position at the top of the game for the next 10 years. Frightening.

The ability Klopp has to transform players really is something else.

[-james-]

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[niko_cee]

Just had a roll and sausage for lunch in solidarity with Rangers.

Have noticed a lot of their fans are wearing orange and was wondering is that straight sectarianism or a clever nod to Seville's eponymous fruit?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Definitely the fruit. It's the same reason Celtic fans wore green on their recent pre-season tour of Australia, as an homage to Granny Smith apples.

[Ben]

Apparently Rangers are wearing orange tonight.

[Giggles]

Awful pity West Ham didn’t make it too. Could have wiped out countless tramps by just letting them loose on each other.

[Boydy]

Awful pity West Ham didn’t make it too. Could have wiped out countless tramps by just letting them loose on each other.
Hopefully they lose and the Spanish police kick the shit out of them.

[Ian]

I'll need to be on team Frankfurt tonight.

1) Fuck all the Rangers fans around me who set off their shit fireworks every time they do anything.
2) Fuck the Old Firm generally.
3) Fuck the pipe bands who come and make an enormous fucking racket round the back of my flat every other week in the summer so I have to close all my windows and doors just so I can hear myself shriek.

[Alex]

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:D / :facepalm:

When a set of absolute gimps. Somebody has had a weekend on the beer in Eastern Europe, taken in a local game and had his ideas indulged for too seriously by "the lads" upon his return.

I think Wayne has summed it up about as well as anyone could hope to:

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[Yevrah]

Football fans are, mostly, complete morons. You could fire them all into the sun and even with the collateral damage you'd have a huge net gain to society.

[Waffdon]

Why do English fans and rangers fans hate chairs so much

[niko_cee]

Football fans are, mostly, complete morons. You could fire them all into the sun and even with the collateral damage you'd have a huge net gain to society.

I find this to be a very odd statement.

[Yevrah]

I'd take one for the team.

[Spikey M]

I find this to be a very odd statement.


Not exactly wrong though.

Although you could replace "football fans" with just "people" and it would hold just as true.

[Shindig]

I do wonder what atmosphere at games would be like without that element, though.

[phonics]

lol at the #WeStandWithIdrissa hashtag trending because he wouldn't wear a rainbow shirt and it's literally all arabic tweets.

[Lewis]

And Africans.

[Yevrah]

Fair play to him. What a load of absolute shite. As if the PSG hierarchy give a flying fuck about anyone's rights.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im sure Ozil was doing that too a few years ago.

[Yevrah]

And while I'm being a pissed off old man, what rights was this initiative meant to be standing up for? What can't LGBTQ+ people do in France? Play professional sport?

[Yevrah]

The BBC article also has this gem in it.


Watford reiterated their commitment to equality and diversity

A business, whose primary source of revenue is derived from 11 very rich men playing football is committed to equality and diversity? Have a day off.

[phonics]

Remember when Spikey told Jimmy that homophobia doesn't exist in the UK and then you read those posts from Yev lol.

[Yevrah]

Did he? One can file that in the bullshit bin too if so.

[Spikey M]

No, that's definitely what I said Yev. And I definitely didn't list football as being one of the problem areas either.

[Luke Emia]

And while I'm being a pissed off old man, what rights was this initiative meant to be standing up for? What can't LGBTQ+ people do in France? Play professional sport?

Bit rich of the club when the it’s illegal to be gay in the country that owns them…

[phonics]

"Being gay is basically entirely normalised in the real world. It shouldn't need an announcement."

[Shindig]

I kind of want Rangers to win tonight. I'm still miffed we let James Tavernier go but he's made the most of it.

[Yevrah]

Bit rich of the club when the it’s illegal to be gay in the country that owns them…

Indeed. All the initiative really seems to have served is to highlight that and the fact that there are billions of people on the planet whose societal, cultural and or religious beliefs mean they're not even comfortable with gay people yet, let alone the other letters of that ludicrous initialism.

[phonics]

That's a good thing. It's literally putting a spotlight on how fucked the situation is.

edit: Oh jesus now he's getting on the trans stuff.

[Pen]

I kind of want Rangers to win tonight. I'm still miffed we let James Tavernier go but he's made the most of it.

Rangers all the way here too, but only because of Kamara. First time this isn’t aired on any free channel here.

[Yevrah]

That's a good thing.

edit: Oh jesus now he's getting on the trans stuff.

Funny. I thought similar when I saw you posting. It's as if I knew a snipey, but lazy and poorly explained response would be incoming. Do you actually think all this bollocks is achieving anything or that the people promoting it in this instance give he slightest shit?

[Ben]

Rangers all the way here too, but only because of Kamara. First time this isn’t aired on any free channel here.

It’s on BT Sport YouTube if you have a VPN that can place you in the UK. More reliable than a dodgy stream.

[Spikey M]

"Being gay is basically entirely normalised in the real world. It shouldn't need an announcement."

"I can only comment on where I live, but saying something homophobic round here would go down about as well as dropping the N word. Transphobia is still alive and well, but homophobia - atleast in public - is a no go.

There will obviously be exceptions, but I think football fans and the over 60's is about it."

Time to move past the Spurs game Phonics lad, it's getting boring.

[Yevrah]

Well, I for one am shocked that Phonics either misunderstood or misrepresented someone's opinion.

[Lewis]

What has the third world being generally homophobic got to do with this country's attitudes to it (except insofar as 'diverse' areas are the worst for it)? Football isn't changing that any time soon.

[phonics]

Funny. I thought similar when I saw you posting. It's as if I knew a snipey, but lazy and poorly explained response would be incoming. Do you actually think all this bollocks is achieving anything or that the people promoting it in this instance give he slightest shit?

Yeah, kind of. I’m a white straight male so I can only speak of my experience in the HIV community where we interviewed someone about reaching out to community healthcare workers and the support they provide and I got a text asking to take it down because the poor kid was literally being chased out of his village in Kenya for being gay. And in that same vain, all you’ll rally against it studies show that the whole pronouns in your bio thing increases people who feel under attack the comfort level to reach out to those people because they don’t fear they’ll be attacked or mocked by those people who are ‘virtue signalling’.

It’s a fucking hard life. Any support you can show them is more than fucking deserved.

[Pen]

Thanks for the tip. I wasn’t going to bother first, but that seems easy enough.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The pride stuff will get a big backlash in the next however many years, which will have deleterious effects on some of the progress made. All our favourite corporate entities use it as a convenient outlet for PR lip service on a subject they don't give a fuck about, while homophobes/'conservative commentators' also use it as a convenient outlet for slagging off the shirtlifters, which they now find themselves unable to do directly. Said commentators think it's meaningless because it means nothing to them.

The lesson is: remember, kids, substance over style. Always.

[phonics]

What has the third world being generally homophobic got to do with this country's attitudes to it (except insofar as 'diverse' areas are the worst for it)? Football isn't changing that any time soon.

We chemically castrated the guy who broke the enigma machine within your parents lives.

[Lewis]

My parents aren't seventy. Meanwhile in Africa 2022, they kill albinos for their magic bones. Their attitudes are irrelevant.

[Yevrah]

The pride stuff will get a big backlash in the next however many years, which will have deleterious effects on some of the progress made. All our favourite corporate entities use it as a convenient outlet for PR lip service on a subject they don't give a fuck about, while homophobes/'conservative commentators' also use it as a convenient outlet for slagging off the shirtlifters, which they now find themselves unable to do directly. Said commentators think it's meaningless because it means nothing to them.

The lesson is: remember, kids, substance over style. Always.

You've put this more eloquently than I did or could and I agree entirely. If I were in a minority I wouldn't want the owners of a club from a country where it's illegal to be in that minority anywhere near the fight. It's just utterly ludicrous.

EDIT: You might as well have Jimmy Saville as the poster boy in the fight against child abuse.

[Waffdon]

I apologise to anyone experiencing both co commentators tonight. They’re both absolutely fucking horrendous. Rangers TV is less bias

[Shindig]

Bugger, that's .... a possible red.

[Waffdon]

That’s a clear red card

[phonics]

You've put this more eloquently than I did or could and I agree entirely. If I were in a minority I wouldn't want the owners of a club from a country where it's illegal to be in that minority anywhere near the fight. It's just utterly ludicrous.

EDIT: You might as well have Jimmy Saville as the poster boy in the fight against child abuse.

You had a problem with Watford doing it like 3 posts ago. My response to your posts isn't even that, it's more the 'Fair play to him for being a homophobe' post.

[Ben]

Got away with one there I think. The ex-ref with a nonsensical explanation trying to maintain the Rangers bias.

[Manc]

Not even a yellow. :happycry:

[Waffdon]

Not even a yellow. Bloody hell:D

[phonics]

"A strong challenge" these lot are hilarious.

[Shindig]

Aye, I figured he was gone. Intent means nothing when you've drawn blood with a boot that high.

[Lewis]

An orange card for a staunch challenge.

[phonics]

These commentators are unbearable.

[thommo]

You lot are soft. Never a red card, he's ducked down into it.

[Yevrah]

You had a problem with Watford doing it like 3 posts ago. My response to your posts isn't even that, it's more the 'Fair play to him for being a homophobe' post.

I do have a problem with Watford doing it as they clearly don't give a shit either, but they get points for not being quite as hypocritical as PSG.

As for fair play to him, it's more fair play for him standing up for his beliefs and not being a corporate shill for the PSG owners, rather than fair play to him for being a homophobe, which is a stance I obviously don't agree with.

[Yevrah]

You had a problem with Watford doing it like 3 posts ago. My response to your posts isn't even that, it's more the 'Fair play to him for being a homophobe' post.

I do have a problem with Watford doing it as they clearly don't give a shit either, but they get points for not being quite as hypocritical as PSG.

As for fair play to him, it's more fair play for him standing up for his beliefs and not being a corporate shill for the PSG owners, rather than fair play to him for being a homophobe, which is a stance I obviously don't agree with.

[Don]

Gone big on Frankfurt as the gammon count amongst this Rangers team is high and Kamada is a classy af operator.

[thommo]

And regarding Gueye, whilst it's fine for him to stick by his religion (fine in that it is his right), it's the movement and sentiment that now appears on various social media that is the problem with his stance. "I stand with Idrissa" is trending on Twitter, complete with homophobic comments, burning of the rainbow flag, etc.

[Luke Emia]

The pride stuff will get a big backlash in the next however many years, which will have deleterious effects on some of the progress made. All our favourite corporate entities use it as a convenient outlet for PR lip service on a subject they don't give a fuck about, while homophobes/'conservative commentators' also use it as a convenient outlet for slagging off the shirtlifters, which they now find themselves unable to do directly. Said commentators think it's meaningless because it means nothing to them.

The lesson is: remember, kids, substance over style. Always.

This every big firm is in on it, they don’t give a shit it’s just a bit of easy publicity.

[Shindig]

Even if he realises a thoughtful and considered statement, you won't see it through the mob.

[Yevrah]

And regarding Gueye, whilst it's fine for him to stick by his religion (fine in that it is his right), it's the movement and sentiment that now appears on various social media that is the problem with his stance. "I stand with Idrissa" is trending on Twitter, complete with homophobic comments, burning of the rainbow flag, etc.

I don't see that as a problem with his stance, more a problem for his idiot owners or idiot league not appreciating it before they asked him to wear one.

[Lewis]

If he wanted to remove a gambling logo (say) for religious reasons everybody would bend over backwards to accommodate it. If you won't also allow for his homophobia then football ends up having to take a theological position on what constitutes an acceptable form of Islam and lmao imagine.

[Waffdon]

You lot are soft. Never a red card, he's ducked down into it.

1527004082224889858

His foots far too high :lol:

[Yevrah]

If he wanted to remove a gambling logo (say) for religious reasons everybody would bend over backwards to accommodate it. If you won't also allow for his homophobia then football ends up having to take a theological position on what constitutes an acceptable form of Islam and lmao imagine.

I suppose the most lol thing about all this is the continued pickle football seems hell bent on getting itself in. It should really stop, probably for everyone's benefit.

[thommo]

His foots far too high :lol:

It is high but it's never a red card. Maybe a yellow would have been fair but VAR can't recommend bookings.

[Kikó]

That's a red.

[Yevrah]

A red from me too. He's put his foot in his head, at shoulder height.

[thommo]

I don't see that as a problem with his stance, more a problem for his idiot owners or idiot league not appreciating it before they asked him to wear one.

They ARE idiots as the whole situation is just a PR wankfest, but why doesn't he just wear the damn shirt, what harm does it do? He didn't seem to ever have an issue with Everton's sponsor being Sportpesa, despite gambling being strictly forbidden too.

[Spikey M]

It's about as clear a red as you can get.

[Baz]

We not getting a reappearance from John for this?

[Lewis]

He must have died.

[Yevrah]

He must have died.

Absolutely nailed on now I'd say.

RIP buddy, he was one of the good guys.

[phonics]

We not getting a reappearance from @John (https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/member.php?u=6) for this?

https://i.imgur.com/UnCYKiM.png

[phonics]

Last activity was height of COVID. :violin:

[Giggles]

Hopefully he pops back in if they win.

[phonics]

This is proper 'watching any old match on the park but with a higher technical quality' shit.

[Shindig]

"Hello, we understand you have a familial history of brain haemorrhages. Would you like a disease that might cause that or a vaccine that could have the same effect?"

[phonics]

Looking that up for John some people have some baffling e-mails. my personal highlight being xxxx@bio-medwastesolutions.com and @bloggingnow.site.

[Boydy]

Didn't Luca message him via some other channel not so long ago and he was fine? He's probably fine, stop being so dramatic.

[Shindig]

Drama is all we've got.

[Giggles]

Didn't Luca message him via some other channel not so long ago and he was fine? He's probably fine, stop being so dramatic.

Yeah I think I recall that. It was mad sudden the way he just fucked off though - no meltdown or fuck all.

[Don]

See that new Jurrasic Park trailer? Jesus, I used to think my dad was a right miserable cunt for rejecting all Hollywood shite but what a man.

[phonics]

The DC SuperPets dogshit was even more reprehensible.

[Giggles]

They’re remaking Jurassic Park?

[Yevrah]

This is the third one, right?

[Waffdon]

How’s he given a corner for that. Fkn hell

[Lewis]

How’s he given a corner for that. Fkn hell

He lost it by going down how he did.

[Don]

The defender :D

[Ian]

Pretty sweet finish from Aribo.


Yeah I think I recall that. It was mad sudden the way he just fucked off though - no meltdown or fuck all.

Given the absolute state of some on here when lockdown was first kicking off I can see why he might have just gone "You know what? Fuck this."

[thommo]

Bundesliga defending strikes again, number 35 has had a mare.

[Kikó]

Rangers have got the luck with them it seems.

[phonics]

Put that defender on suicide watch if thats the winner.