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Ian
23-10-2015, 02:52 PM
Dan Dickinson, a 'Murican midfielder I have, is a bit of a hero this year. Scored four from outside the area while thrashing Swindon in the cup and has just bagged a 95th minute winner during a shambolic performance away at Wigan. To think I was trying to fuck him off during the summer as well.

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 09:21 PM
1st Knockout round - UEFA Champions League

1st leg
http://s27.postimg.org/9eg47ikjn/Marseille_v_Ajax_Post_Match.png

2nd leg..................twats :(
http://s9.postimg.org/vgklov7mn/Ajax_v_Marseille_Information_Overview.png

Jeet
23-10-2015, 09:31 PM
Cheapest deal for FM16? 20 quid I can find so far.

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 09:31 PM
Season unraveling fucking yet again. :moop:

How the fuck did i not win.

http://s28.postimg.org/c284xsbzh/Ajax_v_PSV_Information_Overview.png

Current League standings.

http://s10.postimg.org/oa6ij8epl/Eredivisie_Information_League_Table.png

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 09:50 PM
This emotional pendulum keeps on swinging.

http://s3.postimg.org/gpwrh32mb/Feyenoord_v_Ajax_Information_Overview.png

2 matches left this season.

http://s2.postimg.org/kmfb2zc21/Eredivisie_Information_League_Table.png

Gray Fox
23-10-2015, 09:55 PM
Dquincy That's got to be one of the tightest title chases I've ever seen. What are the last 2 games?

Reg
23-10-2015, 09:56 PM
Cheapest deal for FM16? 20 quid I can find so far.
Link please?

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 10:05 PM
Dquincy That's got to be one of the tightest title chases I've ever seen. What are the last 2 games?
Yeah, it's a bit tense!

Ajax:
Heerenveen (a)
Feyernoord (Cup Final)
Fc Oss (h)

PSV
FC Groningen (h)
FC Dordrecht (a)

Feyernoord
VVV (h)
Ajax (Cup Final)
FC Grogingen (a)

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 10:07 PM
Seriously?! :moop:

http://s3.postimg.org/6azrznk77/sc_Heerenveen_v_Ajax_Information_Overview.png

PSV and Feyernoord both won 1-0. :(

Still have a chance on the last day, but it's slim.

Got to face the Cup Final first, tho.

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 10:12 PM
Cup Final

We tried our best to bollock this one up, but we finally got one monkey off our back. It was bloody tense though.

http://s13.postimg.org/454unnvlj/Ajax_v_Feyenoord_Information_Overview.png

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 10:22 PM
Last day of the season.

http://s29.postimg.org/e6fi3sfd3/Eredivisie_Information_Stages.png

http://s27.postimg.org/j8kr0emir/Eredivisie_Matches_Fixtures_Results.png

Dquincy
23-10-2015, 10:28 PM
Well, that's a shame.

http://s9.postimg.org/xs7gv8x27/Ajax_v_FC_Oss_Post_Match.png

PSV smashed it on the last day, thanks to this fella.

http://s30.postimg.org/580orkmld/Andr_Esono_Profile_Attributes.png

Mike
24-10-2015, 07:31 AM
I had been living with the assumption FM16 beta launched today ready for my week off work. It's next weekend though isn't it? Ready for my return to work :(

Baz
24-10-2015, 07:34 AM
:roflol: :loser:

QE Harold Flair
25-10-2015, 03:39 AM
What's the highest average rating you've seen? Neymar's league average rating for me is 9.03 (after 23 games, he's out for the rest of the season), I think that's the highest I've ever seen.

Ian
25-10-2015, 07:50 AM
Don't think I've seen anything starting with a 9 after that many games. I don't understand how people are getting 8s across a season. Even on saves where I'm winning everything at a canter anything above a 7.7 or so has me pretty excited.

P_3
25-10-2015, 09:44 AM
A right winger I've had managed 8.96 from 33 appearances. Current right winger is on 9.35 at the moment after 16 games with 23 goals and 21 assists. If he can keep those numbers up. :drool:

QE Harold Flair
25-10-2015, 11:51 AM
Don't think I've seen anything starting with a 9 after that many games. I don't understand how people are getting 8s across a season. Even on saves where I'm winning everything at a canter anything above a 7.7 or so has me pretty excited.

I think it's a lot down to the corner trick, but still.

Ian
25-10-2015, 02:02 PM
Arsenal's run of prestigious managers continues as they hire Malky Mackay to improve their fortunes.

Jeet
25-10-2015, 02:15 PM
Link please?

DBGamez - have to message them on their FB page and you'll get an invoice to pay via paypall. Used them for the last 2 versions of Fm so is legit.

Dquincy
25-10-2015, 07:42 PM
Wholesale changes in the summer. Out went my two starting midfielders and first choice right back, along with some other squad players.

http://s15.postimg.org/5gv02ewsr/AFC_Ajax_Transfers_History.png

I'm net cost neutral which is good. These fellas were my marquee signings for midfield.

http://s28.postimg.org/6wji69vvx/Zidane_Profile_Attributes.png
http://s7.postimg.org/75lv1y0qz/Fabiano_Profile_Attributes.png

Ian
26-10-2015, 10:44 AM
Sometimes this game just really is desperate for you to lose, isn't it? Three injuries (including yet another 3/4 monther) and a red card seeing me play 10 minutes with ten men and 25 with nine men, plus the second time in three games I've conceded one of those cross-loops-into-the-far-top-corner atrocities. It actually allowed me to win in spite of all this but I could have done without my 945th injury of the season.

Ian
26-10-2015, 02:37 PM
James Milner's managerial career moves to the big time of the BPLSBB with Wigan. :cool:

Dquincy
26-10-2015, 10:00 PM
After beating Valerenga and Dortmund in the qualifiers. Bit a of tough group.

http://s2.postimg.org/dsna97f9l/UEFA_Champions_League_Information_Stages.png

Ian
27-10-2015, 01:11 PM
As well as producing yet another 'best player of his generation' centre-halves (Tony Pulis would fucking love my youth system) I've also produced this talented-looking midget:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/396674242374034224/A19370C2672822ECFAC99E5B806F055B5222D5B9/

Wor Xavi.

He's already got the attributes to be, like, my third-choice captain. (Exaggerating slightly, but still.)

leedsrevolution
28-10-2015, 05:35 PM
Beta is out

QE Harold Flair
28-10-2015, 05:40 PM
It's a shame I won't get to have a proper game with this don, 1 year on:

http://oi64.tinypic.com/mwcj9w.jpg

AE
28-10-2015, 06:04 PM
Wait, he's 15? :drool:

QE Harold Flair
28-10-2015, 06:26 PM
Yes, and lol at the idiot coach's ratings.

I expect he won't be quite this good on the official game, if he's there.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 06:37 PM
Beta is out

Sweet.

Vim
28-10-2015, 06:38 PM
I'm going to wait for a few patches before getting it. Mid-November probably, though in the last couple of years I've had the best experience on the post-January (14.3/15.3) patches.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 06:44 PM
I won't be touching it for weeks once Fallout 4's out on 10th November, so this will tide me over until then.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 06:58 PM
The manager creation screen is so laughably bad I'm staggered it got through, even by SI's shoddy first release standards.

Demerit
28-10-2015, 07:20 PM
I'll probably play a bit of the beta over the weekend.

They sometimes put me off FM for months though.

leedsrevolution
28-10-2015, 07:33 PM
Apparantly if you manage Arsenal it asks in the opening meeting if you would like Arsene to stay on as DOF, which is pretty cool,

Dark Soldier
28-10-2015, 07:39 PM
Caved and bought via Amazon, gonna get nut deep into it.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 07:53 PM
Have any packs been released to sort all the fake shit out yet?

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 08:16 PM
All done. All the shit from FM15 does the job.

Graphics in too. :drool:

Just need to decide who to be now.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 08:35 PM
Chosen Spurs.

The finances screen(s) is going to take some getting used to. :moop:

Vim
28-10-2015, 08:39 PM
I've got my eyes on a couple of saves for this year, after the usual Juve opening one, namely Chievo and Toronto.

Danny
28-10-2015, 08:59 PM
All done. All the shit from FM15 does the job.

Graphics in too. :drool:

Just need to decide who to be now.

Pretty sure I just deleted all that off my external hard drive the other day :moop:

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 09:01 PM
First thoughts.

The manager avatar stuff is laughably bad.
It's cool that you can choose the game start date from a range of options.
The finance screens are overkill. What was fine on two screens is now on about 6.
The alternative skin looks like nuclear armageddon.
Highlighted attributes for player roles as chosen by your Arse Man being on by default is a right ballache. Can you turn this off?
The stacked bar charts and other such shit that should be left in Excel to rot that have somehow found their way into the game via the staff screens is headache inducing.


http://i66.tinypic.com/316vuhg.jpg


I mean really, what the fuck am I meant to be able to deduce from that mess at a glance?

QE Harold Flair
28-10-2015, 09:04 PM
At this stage they're just changing things so it looks like they're doing something.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 09:07 PM
At this stage they're just changing things so it looks like they're doing something.

Yep, they really are and I think this version is the absolute worst for it. So much of it is slightly different and very little of that appears to be an improvement as far as first impressions are concerned.

Ian
28-10-2015, 09:10 PM
Sticking with '15 is going to prove an ace decision.

AE
28-10-2015, 09:44 PM
First thoughts.

The manager avatar stuff is laughably bad.
It's cool that you can choose the game start date from a range of options.
The finance screens are overkill. What was fine on two screens is now on about 6.
The alternative skin looks like nuclear armageddon.
Highlighted attributes for player roles as chosen by your Arse Man being on by default is a right ballache. Can you turn this off?
The stacked bar charts and other such shit that should be left in Excel to rot that have somehow found their way into the game via the staff screens is headache inducing.


http://i66.tinypic.com/316vuhg.jpg


I mean really, what the fuck am I meant to be able to deduce from that mess at a glance?

Jesus, not going anywhere near 16 then.

Bernanke
28-10-2015, 09:46 PM
So it's no longer a demo but a beta, meaning I have to buy it to try it? Fuck off SI.

Dark Soldier
28-10-2015, 09:55 PM
Everything's shit :drool:

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 10:11 PM
The stats screens for comps are much better, but that's the only definite improvement I've come across so far, and even then, what the fuck is the green all about?



http://i63.tinypic.com/2m627g8.jpg



Whoever designs the UI in this game should be shot.

Bernanke
28-10-2015, 10:13 PM
Wasn't that page hailed as one of the main new features? :lol:

Vim
28-10-2015, 10:14 PM
That looks fucking awful.

I just want a database update and less retarded defenders.

Dark Soldier
28-10-2015, 10:15 PM
Has anybody actually played a match inbetween pissing and moaning?

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 10:19 PM
Yeah, I've played 5.

No idea whether the match engine's any good or not as I play on commentary only. Having issues with offsides at the moment.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 10:20 PM
Wasn't that page hailed as one of the main new features? :lol:

Is there a list anywhere of actual new features? I'm not seeing many so far.

Ian
28-10-2015, 10:25 PM
More offsides, based on this small sample, than in FM15?

Reg
28-10-2015, 10:32 PM
I know really that I should wait until the game is in a stable state, but I'm really tempted to give Roma a go with their new players.

Mike
28-10-2015, 11:00 PM
Not played FM since I got my pre order in and have been itching to get back in this week so the timing of this is perfect.

Going to play as Liverpool for the beta I think. Will be Friday before I get to put any time into it though.

Raoul Duke
28-10-2015, 11:11 PM
I just think they're at a point where there's so much technical overhead in the current design (which is basically 20 years worth of tweaks) that there's never going to be much radical change. Everything will just be incremental adjustments.

The UI is still Excel-on-acid.

Vim
28-10-2015, 11:18 PM
I'm actually all for incremental adjustments in terms of how the game works, at its core it's a very good game.

I think they need to stop fucking with the UI just to be able to put 5 MILLION NEW FEATURES on their ads. Also changing things that didn't need to change, Yev you mentioned that the assistant's recommended role attributes are now on by default? Why? It's completely pointless, they are just moving stuff around for the sake of it.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 11:24 PM
As it turns out, it's not just for your players either, every player you click on has their attributes for a specific role highlighted.

http://i64.tinypic.com/308jqzc.jpg

It's irritating.

Reg
28-10-2015, 11:26 PM
That sounds like another move to cater for newer/less in depth players. It's the way they've been going for a few versions. I imagine you can turn it off? If not it sounds annoying.

Vim
28-10-2015, 11:27 PM
Why are some blue and some grey? Are there now 'very important' and 'a bit important' attributes to each role?

Raoul Duke
28-10-2015, 11:30 PM
Just looked at this: http://www.footballmanager.com/football-manager-2016-key-features

At least half of these are barely even features, or are just 'more thingy' 'better whatever'.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 11:31 PM
I can't see a way to turn it off and no-one else has raised it as an irritation in the beta thread at SI, so it might be staying. At least until other skins are available.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 11:32 PM
Why are some blue and some grey? Are there now 'very important' and 'a bit important' attributes to each role?

It's probably that, but the game doesn't explain it. Not that I'd go by what stats SI (or whatever that forum was that came up with the idea in the first place) deem to be important anyway.

Raoul Duke
28-10-2015, 11:36 PM
I don't actually mind that - it'll be useful for when you check out a player and then accidentally miss that he's got no pace or something critical.

I'll still value some stats for each roles, regardless of SI's numberwang interpretation.

Yevrah
28-10-2015, 11:43 PM
The issue with it is that your eyes are drawn to those stats in the first instance at the expense of the others and as the highlighted stats are those that are deemed important for the role the game thinks is the player in question's best and not necessarily the role I'm going to play him in, you end up being drawn to stats that aren't important (to you) and have to look harder for those that are.

Ian
29-10-2015, 12:11 AM
My hopes of three in a row with Newcastle appear to be fucked. Eight games left and nine points to overcome and not playing the team who are top again. I had a lot of injuries but my form at that point was good, not really sure where it's gone wrong.

Third seems likely, don't fancy my chances much in the cups although I've got Shakhtar in the Champions League so I could make Champions League semis for the first time.

EDIT: As if by magic I've just lost my goalie and one of my strikers for a month. Super.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 12:13 AM
Think I'll have a mooch in the create a club option.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 12:32 AM
Ok, the create a club option is potentially brilliant and could lead to some fantastic forum challenges.

You load a league and a pick a team as your base (to create your club from) in that league, which you then get the option to change some aspects of (name, colours, logo, etc). All pretty rudimentary and nowhere near as powerful as what's in the editor. However, the brilliance comes on the next screen when you can clear the default squad out and then add which players you like (up to 30), within a given budget (which I think is linked to the financial status of the base club you chose).

For example, I picked Norwich and I have a squad budget of just under £100m. I can have Messi if I like, but (as his value is £75m) that means I only have £25m to spend on other players.

It's like fantasy football meets FM and if we all picked the same base club and then went about building our own squads to suit, the BANTER could be immense.

The only drawbacks I can envisage are players wanting to leave as soon as they realise they're in what used to be Norwich, the wages of players being an issue when it comes to wanting to renew their contracts (in the unlikely event they decide to stay) and the wage bill being fucked if I go and sign Lampard and Gerrard etc. (low value I imagine, but high in game wages).

I doubt SI have thought of these, let alone addressed them, but kudos for the mode though.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 12:44 AM
http://i64.tinypic.com/2ytpnh4.jpg

:drool:

A shame that some of the FM legends are valued so low mind. Might have to implement a banned players list if this takes off.

Gray Fox
29-10-2015, 01:55 AM
So if I understand you right, you could create your new club and fill it full of all the FM16 wonderkids? So long as your spending is below £100?

Vim
29-10-2015, 07:17 AM
I think the best challenges will be from the Fantasy Draft competition thing.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 07:41 AM
So if I understand you right, you could create your new club and fill it full of all the FM16 wonderkids? So long as your spending is below £100?

You could, but I'm not sure your spending would be below £100m if you did that.

Mike
29-10-2015, 08:39 AM
With this create a club thing, if you pick a player, say Messi, would he no longer be at Barcelona or would he be at both clubs? If the latter is he renamed?

John Arne
29-10-2015, 09:25 AM
Steam wouldn't let me pay this because my credit card (UK) doesn't match my country of residence (VN) for some stupid reason.

Had to buy through Humble Bumble which is annoying. Still, at least it's downloading now.

Ian
29-10-2015, 09:33 AM
Got Chelsea in the Champions League semis, so that's me almost certainly fucked.

Ian
29-10-2015, 09:58 AM
This should still be enough to see me through the second leg and into the final but I could have had about eight.

http://i.imgur.com/EEf2DJR.png

Canete (twice), Vadala and Kotysch all missed one-on-one chances against Courtois. :moop:

Still, should be good for that final and am into the FA Cup final against Liverpool too.

Ian
29-10-2015, 10:26 AM
1-1 second leg so it'll be the Champions League final for me, will be up against Atletico.

...who stuffed eight past Bayern over two legs. :uhoh:

Baz
29-10-2015, 10:37 AM
My cdkeys order doesn't come with beta access. :moop:

Bernanke
29-10-2015, 12:29 PM
Bellarabis release clause is half his value. :D

Reg
29-10-2015, 12:31 PM
Isn't that what the Draft mode is for, Yev?

That could definitely be great for some TTH games.

Demerit
29-10-2015, 12:34 PM
Loading up now

Adamski
29-10-2015, 12:54 PM
All done. All the shit from FM15 does the job.

Graphics in too. :drool:

Just need to decide who to be now.

What did you use, Yev?

Ian
29-10-2015, 12:57 PM
I've won managed of the year despite failing to defend our title and dropping to third. Does it include all competitions or just Premier League performance? If the former I suppose it could be for the Champions League run.

Ian
29-10-2015, 01:19 PM
A passable FA Cup final performance from Leon Kotysch.

http://i.imgur.com/bxRNPwu.png

Get fucked, Liverpool. Champions League final coming up.

Ian
29-10-2015, 01:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SLtMLBA.png

:rave:

Could've been about 5-0 after twenty minutes mind, and avoided one of FM15's absurd shootouts. :moop:

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 03:06 PM
Just booted it up. Dunno if you found it Yev but you can turn those highlighted stats off on the player screens. click the highlight drop down menu and click none.

Bernanke
29-10-2015, 03:15 PM
Just booted it up. Dunno if you found it Yev but you can turn those highlighted stats off on the player screens. click the highlight drop down menu and click none.

Doesn't work for the attribute screen, only the profile.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 03:38 PM
Doesn't work for the attribute screen, only the profile.

I have zero stats highlighted on any screen, attributes, profile, or any players of other teams after unchecking it.

Luke Emia
29-10-2015, 03:44 PM
I need a new laptop to play this, I'm really debating if I get one or not at the minute. I haven't played any FM since 14 and my hip operation so I'm really missing it now.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 03:53 PM
Ah yeah, it still highlights in the Development screen, hadn't seen that. Can manage with just that though.

Demerit
29-10-2015, 04:32 PM
Won all my preseason friendlies with two tactics that remarkably actually did what I told them.

Counter attacking works, generally the match engine is pretty solid.

The UI will take some getting used to, I don't really like the new scout reports. But generally, it's good.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 04:44 PM
Yeah the ME feels very good. Also if anyone goes United, Chelsea/Arsenal will snap up Rooney for 30mil and you can get Barbosa for about 12mil.

John Arne
29-10-2015, 05:39 PM
CTR+F doesn't work anymore, does it.

John Arne
29-10-2015, 05:53 PM
Eva :wub:

https://gyazo.com/864588e451273bf54a5e0274d86a6c2f.png

John Arne
29-10-2015, 06:13 PM
Started a new game at City, so that i could spend and have some fun.

$0 starting budget :moop:

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 06:59 PM
Just booted it up. Dunno if you found it Yev but you can turn those highlighted stats off on the player screens. click the highlight drop down menu and click none.

I still can't find it even with your description above. :cab:

What's the 'highlight drop down menu'?

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 07:48 PM
I still can't find it even with your description above. :cab:

What's the 'highlight drop down menu'?

Click on player, and just left of attributes where it shows positions is a drop down highlight box, click on that. I'm on 720p laptop res though, might look different on proper res.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 08:09 PM
I'm either being staggeringly dense, or I don't have that drop down highlight box.

Here's a player on my save, where's the drop down box meant to be?

http://i63.tinypic.com/2qdpmr5.jpg

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 09:04 PM
Here's mine:

https://i.gyazo.com/f7ce278ef6a2f9d8ddf4e72638e7d36e.png

You can see it on the left near positions.

One major thing from the beta: Opposition wonder goals are still very, very much there. I've conceded about four in three games from 30 yards or so, right into the top corner.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 09:05 PM
Just noticed, why are our screens so different? Besides making my bar on the left icons only I've not touched anything bar club logos.

Demerit
29-10-2015, 09:08 PM
Had two crash dumps..

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 09:27 PM
Just noticed, why are our screens so different? Besides making my bar on the left icons only I've not touched anything bar club logos.

Cheers DS.

It's because you're using the 'profile' overview screen and I'm using the 'attributes' one. Having just checked changing the highlighted attributes on the profile screen doesn't change how they're highlighted on the attributes one.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 09:32 PM
Right, having pissed around for long enough I'm going to endeavour to start an actual game now.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 09:32 PM
Cheers DS.

It's because you're using the 'profile' overview screen and I'm using the 'attributes' one. Having just checked changing the highlighted attributes on the profile screen doesn't change how they're highlighted on the attributes one.

Overview > Attributes?

https://i.gyazo.com/16c5dba567fd70ef85d80fa22e12a8ff.png

Bit odd.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 09:50 PM
Yeah, just doesn't remember that for me. At first I thought it did, but clicked on another player and the highlighting was back again.

In other news, the cost of free transferring people now comes out of your transfer budget.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 09:52 PM
How do you train a new position in this? It appears I can only train roles now. Does that bring the associated new position with it when the training's complete?

Baz
29-10-2015, 09:52 PM
Is Cesar Huamantica on it?

Giggles
29-10-2015, 09:53 PM
How much of the game is in this demo? Can you do a full season and pick from many leagues?

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 09:54 PM
It's the complete game and saves will continue over into the gold release.

It's probably the best working beta they've released so far.

Reg
29-10-2015, 09:55 PM
It's the beta you get from pre-ordering, you can play for as many seasons as you like.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 09:55 PM
Is Cesar Huamantica on it?

Can't find him in my save with England running on a huge database.

Giggles
29-10-2015, 09:55 PM
It's the complete game and saves will continue over into the gold release.

It's probably the best working beta they've released so far.

Do you just buy this one on Steam as normal then?

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 09:58 PM
Do you just buy this one on Steam as normal then?

Yep. Buy it on steam and then the beta should start downloading immediately. No fucking around.

Steam's £35 mind, it's probably cheaper elsewhere.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 10:00 PM
How do you train a new position in this? It appears I can only train roles now. Does that bring the associated new position with it when the training's complete?

Yeah, exactly as you think. Pick position and a role.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 10:06 PM
Cheers DS.

I thought Roma had binned Ashley Cole? He's still there on this.

Giggles
29-10-2015, 10:06 PM
Yep. Buy it on steam and then the beta should start downloading immediately. No fucking around.

Steam's £35 mind, it's probably cheaper elsewhere.

I never got how the whole steam thing worked really. I take it the beta can't be bought on disc, but you can't play it without Steam. So how do you buy a cheaper download elsewhere and get to actually play it?
I've only ever either bought the hard copy or bought on the Steam store. There are other ways then I take it?

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 10:08 PM
I never got how the whole steam thing worked really. I take it the beta can't be bought on disc, but you can't play it without Steam. So how do you buy a cheaper download elsewhere and get to actually play it?

I'm not sure as I'm too lazy to look (I got mine via Steam), but I think places like CD Keys do it cheaper, but then you're into territory of having to wait for them to send you a code to unlock the beta.

Others might know more.

Vim
29-10-2015, 10:15 PM
I've never had to wait for codes to be sent to me, it's always been immediate. On the rare occasions that I get a game I just buy a key from GreenManGaming or wherever there is a discount code. Then they send me the key which I activate on steam and voila. I think on FM I usually save around 10 euros which is quite a bit.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 10:16 PM
After reading Vim's post I'll be doing that next time if it's that straightforward.

There are some sites where you have to wait for the code though, no?

Reg
29-10-2015, 10:17 PM
Giggles, Amazon have it for £30 and they give you a code to unlock the game and beta version right away.

Giggles
29-10-2015, 10:20 PM
I have no idea what that meant, but I think it means buying the download one place and buying an activation off somewhere else. Sounds a bit risky and dodgy if that's it.
I think I'll buy from Steam rather than end up with no game at all for saving the tenner.

Giggles
29-10-2015, 10:21 PM
Giggles, Amazon have it for £30 and they give you a code to unlock the game and beta version right away.

Do Steam want you to buy an activation code from them too then so you can play the game or how does that bit work?

Reg
29-10-2015, 10:26 PM
You get the code from Amazon, open up Steam and go to 'Games' -> 'Activate a product on Steam...'

Giggles
29-10-2015, 10:29 PM
You get the code from Amazon, open up Steam and go to 'Games' -> 'Activate a product on Steam...'

Ah right. So you still have to go through Steam, but they're taking no payment?

To be honest it was Steam being intertwined that put me off the game originally. Just a whole mess compared to just clicking an icon and starting the game.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 10:30 PM
As a late adopter to Steam Giggles I had the same reservations, but it works flawlessly now.

Reg
29-10-2015, 10:31 PM
Yeah you have to use Steam no matter what nowadays. Just that going through Amazon you save a fiver.

Giggles
29-10-2015, 10:46 PM
€42 on Amazon. Might give it a go tomorrow. I'll need to put Steam on the laptop too.

Manc
29-10-2015, 11:22 PM
From what I've read both here and elsewhere, the beta seems solid. I suspect I'll invest over the weekend.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 11:30 PM
It is good.

Lukaku's still seemingly shit on it though.

QE Harold Flair
29-10-2015, 11:41 PM
Lukaku scored more goals than games when I had him. Hardly shit.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 11:44 PM
6 games for me at Everton and he still hasn't scored. :moop:

Naismith and Kone are banging them in as well.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 11:44 PM
Depay is still mentally good too.

QE Harold Flair
29-10-2015, 11:47 PM
Has Bellerin been upgraded? Oh and Jeff Rene Adelaide should have monstrous potential.

Yevrah
29-10-2015, 11:50 PM
Has Bellerin been upgraded? Oh and Jeff Rene Adelaide should have monstrous potential.

Looks like it to me.

http://i66.tinypic.com/9jlnb7.jpg

Oh and as an aside, the player values for players based in England are fucking mental.

Dark Soldier
29-10-2015, 11:52 PM
Bellerin is currently leading the PL average rating and assist charts on my game, his pace destroys the opposition seemingly. Rated 4 yellow/1black star by the United scouts too.. Full backs seem quite strong in this, compared to being absolutely hopeless in the 15 beta.

QE Harold Flair
29-10-2015, 11:57 PM
He was excellent as a complete wing back in the last one but he's had a nice boost.

Yevrah
30-10-2015, 12:03 AM
http://i64.tinypic.com/30l33as.jpg

I need to get a facepack update.

I've scouted him, but he looks pretty good.

Yevrah
30-10-2015, 12:08 AM
4 gold + 1 black Hazza. :drool:

QE Harold Flair
30-10-2015, 12:14 AM
I never pay attention to the scout reports but he does look pretty good, potentially.

Dark Soldier
30-10-2015, 12:20 AM
Gribbin at United looks good too, some solid stats for his age.

Yevrah
30-10-2015, 12:31 AM
Who have you bought for Utd DS?

Dark Soldier
30-10-2015, 12:39 AM
Barbosa, Aboubakar, Dragovic and Romero, with Rooney shipped to Chelsea for a good 30mil.

Playing 4-2-3-1 with Depay on the left, Barbosa on the right.

Dark Soldier
30-10-2015, 12:43 AM
Also Embolo coming at the end of the season.

Yevrah
30-10-2015, 12:51 AM
Embolo looks the bollocks.

John
30-10-2015, 12:54 AM
Someone have a look at Goncalo Guedes.

Bernanke
30-10-2015, 01:42 AM
Andrija Zivkovic has been amazing in the games I've played him in so far.

Bernanke
30-10-2015, 03:02 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Z95a7Vg.png

:eyemouth:

QE Harold Flair
30-10-2015, 03:14 AM
How the fuck have you done 3 seasons already?

Bernanke
30-10-2015, 03:23 AM
It's not mine. Someone posted it on Reddit.

Anyway, after fiddling around some with IFK Göteborg, Stuttgart, and Celta Vigo, I think I've decided to do my first serious run with Napoli.

I'm dumping Callejon + Higuain + Mertens immediately for 31,5 + 47 + 22,5 million euro, and playing wingerless going forward. Gonna bring in Barbosa and some other more high-profile striker, other than that the squad should manage. Embolo might get picked up as well.

John Arne
30-10-2015, 06:44 AM
How the fuck have you done 3 seasons already?

Looks like they are managing India, rather than a club team.

John Arne
30-10-2015, 06:51 AM
Anyone running a little slowly?

Bernanke
30-10-2015, 06:57 AM
Anyone running a little slowly?

Yeah, I'm really hoping it's just the beta.

John Arne
30-10-2015, 07:27 AM
Yeah, just feels a little laggy. I'm on a pretty top-end laptop, too.

Dark Soldier
30-10-2015, 01:18 PM
I'm on a shite laptop and it feels speedier then 15. Cannot fathom the tactics this time around, I've drawn 7 of 12 in the league, might start over and have that as a test.

five time
30-10-2015, 02:36 PM
https://embed.gyazo.com/9d0c8834ca755c9ef598cc7bc2425d07.png

Anyone found any bargains yet? Just got turned down a work permit for this guy at Derby. Maybe a sign that his potential isn't that high?

Looks good enough to beast the championship already though, and he's cheap at 500k if he does end up getting a permit.

Reg
30-10-2015, 02:46 PM
Pity about his Acceleration because otherwise he has cracking ratings. Looks like Gervinho who was great on 15.

five time
30-10-2015, 02:52 PM
There's a bunch of old players still knocking about as well. Came across Ronaldinho, Adriano, Roberto Carlos as a player/manager, Del Piero available on a free still with shit hot technical stats, and Jan Koller is in Monaco's reserve team (what?).

Reg
30-10-2015, 03:13 PM
I'm gonna have a go in Turkey at some point and try and get Ronaldinho at Antalyaspor to join Eto'o (as it seemed would happen in the summer).

It'll be a good challenge against Fenerbahce - van Persie, Nani, Diego, Meireles, Bruno Alves.

Podolski (Galatasary) still has 20 for Finishing. They really are quite lazy updating players aren't they?

John Arne
30-10-2015, 03:31 PM
I came close to getting Del Piero at Crewe.
He eventually joined Genk on £3k p/w

Dark Soldier
30-10-2015, 08:51 PM
Is it me or do tactics seem a bit inconsistent in this? Just feels incredibly up and down week in, week out. Fucking Barnsley in the cup beat my full strength United side, had way more possession, more shots, despite it being a typical 4-2-3-1 with no contradiction instructions which had beat Liverpool 3-0 previously. Its...yeah, not really feeling much enjoyment currently, not because I'm not winning, it just feels a bit shoddy. Still, its the beta. Crossing is OP as fuck from the AI, as are ludicrous long shots.

Reg
30-10-2015, 09:44 PM
Correa (Aletico Madrid) is listed for loan at the start of the game. I missed out on him for Sociedad but he could be great.

Sergi Samper still has a £9m release clause, too.

Yevrah
30-10-2015, 10:55 PM
Anyone running a little slowly?

Yeah, mine is too.

IIRC, I think this always happens and the speed is optimised for the full release.

Yevrah
30-10-2015, 11:19 PM
Lukaku's started scoring. :drool:

five time
30-10-2015, 11:22 PM
One thing I've noticed is a lack of those annoying offside goals. Seemed like last time every other goal was ruled out.

John
30-10-2015, 11:23 PM
Did anyone have a look at Goncalo Guedes?

Yevrah
30-10-2015, 11:26 PM
http://i68.tinypic.com/2ljhsmg.jpg

Demerit
30-10-2015, 11:37 PM
Unsure about this now.

A good tactic lasts 6 games where you dominate and win every game, then you'll quite easily lose 6 on the bounce.

Lots of missed penalties, lots of defenders ignoring short passing instructions and inside forwards don't seem to want to come inside.

After playing it for 12 hours now, everything outside of the match engine is literally exactly the same as it was before. The one and only positive change they've made is that if you're taking a playing off during a game, the players that can play in his position are highlighted on the bench.

Helps massively if you're playing with an unfamiliar squad as I am at the moment with St Albans.

Dark Soldier
31-10-2015, 12:08 AM
Did anyone have a look at Goncalo Guedes?

According to a post I saw somewhere last night, he turns into a bit of a beast.

Yevrah
31-10-2015, 12:17 AM
Everton's finances never cease to amaze me on FM.

Every other club I manage on FM on the premier league is fine, but with Everton, I'm hemorrhaging cash all over the shop.

Bernanke
31-10-2015, 12:27 AM
Jesus Marimon looks beastly.

Yevrah
31-10-2015, 12:34 AM
What club's he at Bern? I can't find him on my save.

Bernanke
31-10-2015, 12:44 AM
Once Caldas.

http://i.imgur.com/2vDMMT0.png?1

Might be one of those that you have to load a lot of players for, I did all continents international players + players from top clubs.

Gray Fox
31-10-2015, 01:42 AM
Have they done anything with those newgen faces? I feel like they've been the same for about 5 years.

Dark Soldier
31-10-2015, 03:00 AM
Lol the absolute fuck. I save and quit because bed after beating Arsenal 2-1, crash dump on save. Reload it and ta-da I'm Leicester manager, what is this shit?

Screw going back a month on previous save, I'm out until they've fixed this.

Sam
31-10-2015, 09:40 AM
It's a beta but it still looks the solid option to knock it on the head till the usual January patch to fix everything they've broken.

Ian
31-10-2015, 10:21 AM
Lol the absolute fuck. I save and quit because bed after beating Arsenal 2-1, crash dump on save. Reload it and ta-da I'm Leicester manager, what is this shit?

Screw going back a month on previous save, I'm out until they've fixed this.

This is how people end up managing Leeds in real life. Wake up bleary-eyed wondering what the fuck happened and what has befallen them to find themselves in the position they're in.

Smiffy
31-10-2015, 10:23 AM
.....

QE Harold Flair
31-10-2015, 11:42 AM
I think it's unacceptable that they produce an unfinished game every year. And by 'game' I mean data update.

Yevrah
31-10-2015, 01:06 PM
I fucking hate those "I wore a suit to the cup final" type FM thinly veiled adverts.

I've played a lot of CM/FM, but I've never phoned in sick or turned down a shag to do so.

leedsrevolution
31-10-2015, 01:14 PM
It's a beta thought so it's not officially the full released game.

QE Harold Flair
31-10-2015, 01:24 PM
Yes, but the full game will not be much different. It never is.

Reg
31-10-2015, 06:27 PM
I misread a news item, turns out it was another Altetico player who went elsewhere. Correa is ours on loan. :cool:

Also signed Rode from Bayern on loan, mainly for depth. I'd be disappointed if we didn't finish top 6.

five time
01-11-2015, 12:04 AM
Darren Bent has been pissing and moaning all year (seems like I have to try a lot harder to keep players happy this year) so I've replaced him with this lad who looks a snip for 400k. Sobhy got his work permit in January also.

https://i.gyazo.com/766cf129c5c2738b122ffb770b7b82af.png

Oh and this is new (and probably pointless):
https://i.gyazo.com/468b11089d416a5837ff6535b54a50f5.png

Demerit
01-11-2015, 12:18 AM
Seems like the number of weeks changes player to play, probably based on their hidden adaptability stat.

I've seen some players without any understand of the language only need 20 weeks.

Dark Soldier
01-11-2015, 12:54 AM
So after trying all variations of 4231, I went for a very high pressing 442 with minimal team instructions and the game feels like it works now.

Gray Fox
01-11-2015, 01:05 AM
Is the narrow 4-3-3 still the dogs bollocks?

Dark Soldier
01-11-2015, 01:11 AM
Nah, too exposed on the wings I've found. Sure you could get it to work though, I just tried a similar set-up to FM15 and was getting mauled at times.

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 05:10 AM
Hold me.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2s6m3xx.jpg

Everton Fixtures

Crystal Palace (h)
Norwich (a)
Watford (h)

Man City Fixtures

Southampton (a)
Bournemouth (h)
Leicester (a)

Chelsea Fixtures

Swansea (h)
Stoke (a)
Leicester (a)
Crystal Palace (h)
Man Utd (a)

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 05:26 AM
A 78th minute winner from Shane Long gave Southampton a 1-0 win over Man City, while we beat Palace 2-0 with goals from Mirallas and Naismith.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ueptuv.jpg

In worse news.

http://i68.tinypic.com/20kppg2.jpg

The fucking state of that. :moop:

Somehow, despite the tv WARCHEST we're losing £3m a month and are now £30m in debt, with £95m remaining on our loans. This is getting sorted the fuck out in the summer, even if I need to bring in League 2 players.

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 05:42 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ltn7ea.jpg

:jayjay:

Only £15m overdrawn now. :cab:

John Arne
01-11-2015, 07:14 AM
Anybody found any decent lower league players yet (for FM16)?

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 08:04 AM
Not sure about lower league, but my scouts have just found a certain someone's son for me...

http://i66.tinypic.com/t5hnc3.jpg

:drool:

John Arne
01-11-2015, 08:20 AM
Despite a large database, he doesn't seem to be in my game...

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 08:36 AM
Mine's on huge, using this.

http://sortitoutsi.net/downloads/view/13407/fm-2015-huge-database

John Arne
01-11-2015, 08:48 AM
Ah, got it.

Manc
01-11-2015, 10:38 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/2ltn7ea.jpg

Does this suggest the game is a little easier this year?

Raoul Duke
01-11-2015, 10:47 AM
Everton are always overrated.

Bam
01-11-2015, 10:54 AM
Is it worth getting the beta or not?

Smiffy
01-11-2015, 11:07 AM
.....

Mike
01-11-2015, 11:12 AM
Bloody Beta
http://i.minus.com/iDl3MuTOpHe01.png

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 11:34 AM
Does this suggest the game is a little easier this year?

I did it with 83 points, so probably not. Also only played 40 games all season, which helped massively.

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 01:20 PM
Second season is proving much tougher.

Hardly pulling up trees in the league.

http://i66.tinypic.com/30hv49z.jpg

And finished 3rd behind Real and Inter in our Champions League group. Wafer cup ahoy.

Yevrah
01-11-2015, 01:48 PM
http://i63.tinypic.com/2hrhp5e.jpg

How the fuck are that many properly good sides left in the Europa last 32?

Bernanke
01-11-2015, 04:44 PM
What the fuck have they done to the regen-faces this year? Many look like horrific abominations.

Jeet
01-11-2015, 05:01 PM
Hopefully this version is better once most of all the real players have gone as it becomes too easy after that. The regens are not spread out well and only a certain amount of top regens which most the time the top teams snapped up, meaning you see loads of 5-0 wins etc week in week out.

Around around the 7th year becomes piss and boring. Yes I have taken over smaller teams, then they are pissing it after 3 years....

Dquincy
01-11-2015, 07:51 PM
Managed to get out of the group stage ok. I was 3rd seed.

http://s27.postimg.org/xfte4u0c3/UEFA_Champions_League_Information_Stages_2.png

I've received a job offer from a 16th place Man City. Was tempted, but don't want to leave Ajax untill i win the league. So turned it down.

I've now received this:
http://s1.postimg.org/5wj93hmwv/Quincy_News_Inbox.png

Dquincy
01-11-2015, 08:31 PM
Half way stage, looking promising but very tight.

http://s29.postimg.org/4h14ciecn/Eredivisie_Information_League_Table.png

And i've just done this, joining AC Milan at the end of the season...I best win the league this year otherwise i'll be pissed.

http://s24.postimg.org/7q0lvixx1/Quincy_News_Inbox.png

wullie
01-11-2015, 11:39 PM
Oh man.

http://i.imgur.com/CQI6PiM.png

Bernanke
02-11-2015, 12:08 AM
I'm getting a "diminutive winger" in who is 157cm and 47kg. :D

Manc
02-11-2015, 09:38 AM
I took the plunge last night and it quickly became clear this is a very good game. The match engine is spot on, the introduction of Prozone is a massive plus and there's more variety day to day.

Slight niggles would be information overload on certain screens and slow processing speeds.

I've started with Sunderland.

John Arne
02-11-2015, 09:41 AM
I'm getting a "diminutive winger" in who is 157cm and 47kg. :D

47kg? That's the same as my tiny girlfriend. He'll be destroyed :D

phonics
02-11-2015, 10:37 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSzEfUfWIAA3LHY.png:large

This game has lost it's way a bit, hasn't it.

wullie
02-11-2015, 01:55 PM
I'm only as far as the second week of the season but apart from the layout being tweaked and the team selection screen being more arsey than it was I've not seen much in the way of new.

Jeet
02-11-2015, 02:07 PM
Fine the bastards and give that money to charity.

leedsrevolution
02-11-2015, 02:21 PM
I'm enjoying the match engine. Seems loads better than last year to me.

Bernanke
02-11-2015, 04:17 PM
So, I sold my best left back, and the squad started moaning about "lack of depth". Then I brought in two good to great D LCs to cover the position, but that didn't appease them, and I can't tell the fuckers to bugger off and that I HAVE strengthened the squad adequately. The dressing room is now "fractured".

Reg
02-11-2015, 11:52 PM
Played 7 games with Sociedad, 6 wins and a draw puts me level on points with Real Madrid; Barca with a game in hand and 3 behind. Real look unstoppable at the moment, they've scored 20 and conceded a single goal.

Very impressed with the game so far. The match engine is really good, reactive tactics work well and it genuinely feels like you can effect a game (last version felt a little random and unresponsive).

The interface has also improved a little bit I'd say.

Bernanke
03-11-2015, 12:32 AM
Anyone else only getting shit bids on your players? I feel like the never even try to pay market value in the beta, they always stop at 70-80% of it.

QE Harold Flair
03-11-2015, 12:41 AM
I do hope they have fixed the ridiculous transfer system, where you would bid for a promising player worth about a million and they'd ask for £100 million or something equally silly.

Giggles
03-11-2015, 07:58 AM
I do hope they have fixed the ridiculous transfer system, where you would bid for a promising player worth about a million and they'd ask for £100 million or something equally silly.

That's one of the things that put me off the last game. I remember bidding 750k for a 200k Blackburn youngster and they came back looking for £57m.

Dark Soldier
03-11-2015, 10:00 AM
From my experience so far it seems fixed, lesser teams will went less money (Bayern/Barca etc will still want ridculous dosh). Dundee United quoted me 3.5mil for a four yellow, one black star regen right back.

igor_balis
03-11-2015, 01:23 PM
Alright lads, just got the beta. Anyone fancy dicking around on the draft mode thing with me? Best of 5 games, 1 on 1, Could be fun to try it out.

Mike
03-11-2015, 06:14 PM
Has the beta been patched at all since it came out?

John Arne
03-11-2015, 06:16 PM
Nope. They usually don't patch the Beta unless absolutely neccersary.

John Arne
04-11-2015, 07:51 AM
I currently have the best U21 team ever, having got half the ISL released players on trial... unfortunately, none of them actually want to join, only Mutu does :)

https://gyazo.com/95ed15a53930ad2268192d3600fe3697.png

John Arne
04-11-2015, 07:54 AM
Just about to offer this guy a new 2yr contract. He's been good this season, too :(

https://gyazo.com/e3af8bcd499bfdfa6b067dfe71342b1a.png

https://gyazo.com/a29895a34af79bc421b679c4aeedcd3f.png

Luca
04-11-2015, 08:01 AM
I do hope they have fixed the ridiculous transfer system, where you would bid for a promising player worth about a million and they'd ask for £100 million or something equally silly.

Just had that happen to me. Everton wanted €100MM for a 3-star Seamus Coleman. I then bid €20MM and they accepted straight away (he didn't even moan about them blocking the transfer, either). Very, very silly indeed.

John Arne
04-11-2015, 08:03 AM
I bid $200k for 19yr Start player and they came back and asked for $42,000,000

wullie
04-11-2015, 09:01 AM
So far on the beta I'm doing way worse than Cov are in real life, but Adam Armstrong is doing alright like in real life with Tudgay backing him up. I'm glad I signed Del Piero but he's the tungsten-tipped screws of my squad.

John Arne
04-11-2015, 09:24 AM
Have a play with this tactic, it's working wonders for me.

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share-download-fm-16-tactics/349738-beta-tactic-4231-champions-qpr-first-season.html

Bernanke
04-11-2015, 06:02 PM
Why did Steam update my game?

John Arne
04-11-2015, 06:36 PM
A small update has been released. However, it has made a lot of people, including me, suffer from small screen freezes. It's rather annoying.

John Arne
04-11-2015, 06:38 PM
Meanwhile, I somehow go 2-0 away to Arsenal in the cup, only to fuck it up in second half.

https://gyazo.com/9f3c1a7b520bb70d07ca144275bbf6c9.png

Dquincy
05-11-2015, 09:55 PM
And yet again, it's looking like a close run season...

http://s18.postimg.org/z7g91cdyx/Eredivisie_Information_League_Table_2.png

Yevrah
05-11-2015, 10:19 PM
A small update has been released. However, it has made a lot of people, including me, suffer from small screen freezes. It's rather annoying.

I'm getting them too. :moop:

What was the patch supposed to fix?

Mike
05-11-2015, 10:24 PM
Clicking with FM16 now, given up on Benteke, Sturidge manager 4 goals in 6 games before breaking his ankle meaning goal machine Danny Ings plays each week.

Jimmy Floyd
05-11-2015, 10:25 PM
Right, I'm suffering from fucking boredom at the moment so I'm going if not balls deep, then something akin to it on the new FM until warmer times come back around. I haven't played since 14, so am expecting FIREWORKS.

First go is with Mansfield. I'm already somewhat baffled.

Yevrah
05-11-2015, 10:29 PM
Jim. :cool:

Why are you baffled and why Mansfield?

Jimmy Floyd
05-11-2015, 10:41 PM
Because I haven't played it for a couple of versions and so don't know the controls, as it were.

Mansfield because why the hell not. I wanted a nondescript lower English club and they fit the bill.

First impressions are it's probably quite well laid out once I get used to it.

Jimmy Floyd
05-11-2015, 11:50 PM
First game down and I see some things never change.

http://oi68.tinypic.com/swp7br.jpg

Bernanke
06-11-2015, 12:50 AM
A small update has been released. However, it has made a lot of people, including me, suffer from small screen freezes. It's rather annoying.

It apparently only affected 16.0.1-saves. There's an entire thread about it on the SI forums.

Apparently it's fixed: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/439822-Football-Manager-2016-16-0-3-Update

John Arne
06-11-2015, 07:02 AM
Yeah, been monitoring that thread. The update doesn't seem to have fixed mine.. I'll try again later.

John Arne
06-11-2015, 07:42 AM
Ah, actually the update last night wasn't for FM16... that update is downloading now.

Dark Soldier
06-11-2015, 03:04 PM
Callum Gribbin at United has the chance to become a bit of a beast. This is early in the third season, and he has been tutored by Mata and James Rodriguez, but still:

https://i.gyazo.com/d38ac11bba3fc764d80f616715795519.png

That positioning really lets him down, trying to get his value up before selling him on, will do well at a mid table side.

Bernanke
06-11-2015, 03:23 PM
For an AMC, I'd say his 10 in decisions is worse than the 4 in positioning.

Dark Soldier
06-11-2015, 03:26 PM
Still time for that to develop somewhat, he's only 18 and this is his breakthrough season.

wullie
06-11-2015, 03:33 PM
I had Reda Johnson fall apart (realism is key in this so far) and brought in Ellis Plummer from Man City to cover the absence. He's pretty much propping the defence up himself, what a man.

Dquincy
07-11-2015, 10:28 AM
And yet again, it's looking like a close run season...

http://s18.postimg.org/z7g91cdyx/Eredivisie_Information_League_Table_2.png
Finished the season, last season before moving to AC Milan (who finished 10th in the Seria a)


Jackers! :) Record highest points tally in Dutchland.

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These fellas were my main men:
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http://s12.postimg.org/nk0aqobq5/Marcos_Paran_Profile_Attributes.png