F1 2022 - El Plan

[Pepe]

Sainz to dry tyres? He'll crash.

[Giggles]

What does be wrong with Hamilton’s radio? It always sounds like he’s talking into a paper bag.

[SincereTheRebel]

Seemed like ferrari had a window and now Perez is ahead of Leclerc. They should have pulled Leclerc in earlier for inters?

[Shindig]

That's the Ferrari I remember.

[Pepe]

Ferrari :harold:

[Ben]

Ferrari have fucked this.

[Giggles]

Perez :cool:

[Gray Fox]

And now he has to sit behind max for 50 laps. What pain that is.

[Disco]

I'm not sure how he's saved that.

[Gray Fox]

Oh shit Mick. Not again.

[Giggles]

Fuck that’s a big looking smash.

[Shindig]

I wonder how long Ferrari will bother with Schumacher.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ferrari has fucked this right up

[Pepe]

Yawn.

[Waffdon]

Ferrari are a shambles.

[Gray Fox]

I wonder if anyone will try softs for a quick overtake attempt.

[SincereTheRebel]

If they would have pit Leclerc before the red bulls, the red bulls would have just stayed out.

[Disco]

Are they just ignoring Verstappen crossing the line or was he not actually over it?

[Disco]

I wonder if anyone will try softs for a quick overtake attempt.

Nobody will overtake anyone on the same type of tires, it was only barely possible on inters vs wets.

[SincereTheRebel]

Leclerc in the back of the garage, shaking his head :lol:

[SincereTheRebel]

Are they just ignoring Verstappen crossing the line or was he not actually over it?

I havent seen the footage but my guess is, he wasn't over...

[Giggles]

When did this undercut (and now we have the overcut) shite start and how can we end it?

[Disco]

He looked over/on the line from onboard but good luck getting a replay out of this lot, it would bump Prince Charles up a spot so you'd think they'd be all over it.

[Disco]

When did this undercut (and now we have the overcut) shite start and how can we end it?

Eliminate pit stops.

[Giggles]

Eliminate pit stops.

I’ve never heard it mentioned until a few years ago on Sky and we’ve had pit stops a lot longer than that. Has Murray Walker ever uttered the word?

[Gray Fox]

There’s still time for Latifi to get acquainted to another wall.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive also yet to see how these new rules help the cars race closer together. It still requires DRS pretty much. Nothing to do with Monaco but it's race 6 and ive yet to see it.

[Disco]

I’ve never heard it mentioned until a few years ago on Sky and we’ve had pit stops a lot longer than that. Has Murray Walker ever uttered the word?

It became more of a thing with the advent of different compounds but the idea of pitting and going faster than the guy you were behind has been around forever.

[Ben]

I’ve never heard it mentioned until a few years ago on Sky and we’ve had pit stops a lot longer than that. Has Murray Walker ever uttered the word?

It’s always been a thing.

[Gray Fox]

Ferrari really don’t want LeClerc in a good mood do they.

[Giggles]

It’s always been a thing.

Saying it 150 times a race has definitely not always been a thing.

[Giggles]

Schumacher had basically fucked this as a spectacle.

[Disco]

They fucked it by spending the most interesting part of afternoon sat around in the pits. Not that it matters here, you just follow the car in front whatever the conditions.

[Ben]

Alonso :D

[Disco]

Races like this make me want to shake David Croft until he shuts up, nobody is making an overtake here you plank.

[Pepe]

:cool:

[Disco]

https://i.imgur.com/9M7SRqd.png

[Disco]

Indy 500 up next, I wonder how long Jimmie Johnson can keep it out of the wall.

[Shindig]

I'm miffed Montoya couldn't qualify.

EDIT: Oh, he did. 30th. Burn from the stern, Juan Pablo.

[Disco]

Ferrari protesting both Red Bulls for pit lane exit violations. :drool:

[SincereTheRebel]

Stupid Pasta Boys

[Giggles]

Did they ever show a decent replay of the exits?

[Waffdon]

Perez was fine but Verstappen was not. They’ll get a stern talking to.

[Disco]

194 laps was our answer.

[Shindig]

Ericsson wins. Montoya 11th.

[Disco]

Ferrari protesting both Red Bulls for pit lane exit violations. :drool:

Both rejected. Apparently the FIA rules and the Race Directors event notes use different language, presumably so they can avoid having to make a decision in cases like this.

[Disco]

Today's random motorsport viewing:

Aussie truck racing returns :drool: Objectively better than the European/Worlds (also on youtube somewhere) due to it being fair dinkum cobbers building stuff in sheds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCbF4jODLU4


Sidecar Racing for the clinically insane I assume.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxWMx9wz150&t=338s


And Talladega from 1993, the correct era of Nascar.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHinYKzJ0A8&t=3454s

[Ben]

Sidecars were support races at BSB last year. Absolute maniacs.

[Jimmy Floyd]

A 54 year old man driving with his 19 year old son doing the pole dancing on the back on the way to certain violent death, top parenting that.

[Pepe]

Haven't seen sidecar racing in a while. Must be the wildest motorsport out there. Absolute maniacs.

[Shindig]

It's TT Practice Week as well. Current injury list:

Sam West - fiery crash at Laurel bank - leg and hand injuries
Dave Moffit - extensive injuries - described as being in a serious but stable condition

[Ben]

Different breed the TT lot.

Fun fact: I was meant to go to the TT about ten years ago. My cousin hired a plane to take four of us over but after we took off we got an alarm on the landing gear so we had to circle back. We landed fine but it was certainly an experience coming in to the runway and seeing an ambulance and fire engine bolting along to meet us.

[Giggles]

God I don’t miss the obsession with road racing bikes from my time up there. It’s like a religion.

[Giggles]

Actually that’s a bad comparison, but they’re mad about it.

[Shindig]

Yeah, you'll never get me in a small plane or helicopter. I'd rather ferry it across. And I will get over there one day.

[Shindig]

Anyway, first death of the fortnight is Mark Purslow.

Olivier Lavaral - in a sidecar. Oof. (Apparently they announced the wrong dead Frenchman. Cesar Chanal is the guy that perished, Lavaral remains in critical condition.)

Davy Morgan.

[Ben]

Just flicked on FP1. The porpoising on the Ferrari is bordering on human rights violations.

[thommo]

Sainz was pootling along down the main straight under VSC and it still looked fucking horrendous. 51 laps of that is going to be painful.

Lots of cars brushing the wall at T15. Could see a quali like last year with multiple red flags.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's a stupid track for stupid viewers, and people claim Monaco is bad. They know nothing.

[Shindig]

I like the location but wide street circuits take the street out of the equation.

[Disco]

It's not the worst street track, there have been decent races there but it's only the giant straight that provides an real prospect of overtaking. I wonder if the Azeris are still showing their war crimes on the big screens in Baku, I'm guessing probably not this weekend.

[Shindig]

Is it worth being on Pirelli watch, given how they popped last season?

[niko_cee]

Just watched the 'Tuesday Documentary' about Le Mans on iplayer. Thought it was pretty good. Loved the narration.

[Giggles]

They're probably about 40 years younger than her but Pinkham has some set of nubs.

[Ben]

Is it worth being on Pirelli watch, given how they popped last season?

Nah I doubt it, although I'm surprised they've had the stones to bring the three softest compounds.

[Giggles]

At this stage I know that if Jimmy thinks it's bad it's good (mainly because he thinks the WC should be 9 races at silverstone, brands hatch, and donington in his victorian brain), so I'm expecting this to be really good given his strop.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I really struggle with the modern day wacky races side of things, and safety cars, the whose-fault-is-it back and forth when anyone goes off track, drivers bitching at each other, etc. I just want to watch racing on racing circuits. I don't want to see them go single file past a castle and then crash into a wall on a 4 mile straight bringing everything to a halt for the next 20 minutes.

[Ben]

Reducing the size of the cars significantly will solve everything.

[Pepe]

I would take a season of them going to spa, suzuka, and interlagos over and over.

[Disco]

I liked Mugello, they should go back there.

[Shindig]

Tilke should just make a Gran Turismo track for real. Unless he makes something nightmarish like Complex String.

[Gray Fox]

Very messy F2 sprint race just. Every other lap there was somebody in the wall.

[Gray Fox]

Twice inside a lap. Get him out.

[Shindig]

Just withdraw Stroll's car for the rest of the season and save some money.

[Gray Fox]

Unfortunately I don’t think Daddy Strulovic is short of cash.

[Shindig]

Show me a businessman who likes pissing money away. Something has to give.

[Giggles]

The car just doesn’t like going around corners.

[Gray Fox]

Hard to see Charles not being swamped tomorrow, but that's a great lap from him.

[Shindig]

There's no Maldonado or Montoya in this year's Le Mans field. I'm ranking everyone in how many seconds faster they are than Michael Fassbender, instead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2yBU8cLVy0

This bowtie Hepatologist is currently 3 seconds faster than him. Congratulations on your wealth and success, Sir.

[Giggles]

Anything happen Hamilton after?

[Disco]

After what?

[Shindig]

He was noted for breaking track limits earlier in the session but that was it.

[Giggles]

After what?

He was being investigated after the race for slow driving in Q2, though I see now he was quicker than the limits so there was no problem.

[Giggles]

Is it right that the race starts at midday or am I seeing something wrong?

[Shindig]

Yep. I'm surprised by that.

[Giggles]

That anthem sounds like the intro to some symphonic metal.

[Disco]

What's going on with the Sky presenting team? They seem to have maybe one competent pundit on duty this weekend.

[Waffdon]

Was about to say. Obviously have the reserves in this weekend.

[Giggles]

What's going on with the Sky presenting team? They seem to have maybe one competent pundit on duty this weekend.

I’d asked the same the last time most of this crew were on and it’s apparently something they do in not sending the lot of them to every race.

[Disco]

Is Di Resta going to be on commentary? I might have to go back to bed.

[Gray Fox]

I can hear it already. "Hamilton blah blah blah, not very good."

[Ben]

Only Crofty is contracted to every race. Brundle only does about 17 or 18 because he does his own racing sometimes. He’s probably at Le Mans today.

[Shindig]

Alex Brundle is so maybe his dad is there.

[Waffdon]

Ferrari make a fuck up every race

[Shindig]

Is that what Horner calls letting them race? Piss.

CURSED FERRARI

[Waffdon]

Fuck off Ferrari.

This season is going to be boring now. Christ. Just give Max the title

[Disco]

Ferrari fucking love a false dawn don't they.

[Waffdon]

How are they even allowed racing jumping up and down like that lol

[Disco]

3/6 Ferrari engines popped so far.

[Ben]

Gaffer tape on that wing? :D

[Gray Fox]

Lewis looking absolutely fucked coming out of the car there.

[Disco]

Bono my spine.

[Shindig]

Finally gets over covid and then the car gives him sciatica.

[Giggles]

He’s surely been told to ham it up too given they’re looking the regs changed to even things up for them.

[Ben]

Imagine the seethe from Horner when FIA mandate a standardised ride height.

[Shindig]

He was literally complaining about a cold arse. :D

[Disco]

You could get rid of it with setup so it's their choice to run it like that.

[Gray Fox]

Regs are set until 2026 I believe. Not a chance there.

di Resta was suggesting during the race that the FIA might issue a demand for teams to fix the porpoising as a driver safety issue.

It's solvable, the teams are just choosing not to as it compromises pace.

[Giggles]

What sort of a stupid name is Pato O’Ward?

[Gray Fox]

A mostly Mexican, slight Irish and brought up in the good ol' US of A type of name.

[Waffdon]

Vettel’s spinning recovery makes for a beautiful gif

[Waffdon]

Apparently Spa might not be on the calendar next year. Lol at that

[Ben]

The Americans really couldn’t give a fuck about good circuits and tradition. No doubt another street circuit in some questionable state will step in.

Anyway, I see the noise from drivers about porpoising is really heating up today. I am firmly in the camp that says the FIA shouldn’t do anything because the teams can easily fix it but Horner is already bleating so let’s fucking do this. I’d be happy for the FIA to relinquish whatever credibility it has left to send that cunt over the edge.

[Ben]

Kyalami might be back next year.

[Gray Fox]

Sounds like Piastri in and Latifi out at Williams is all but confirmed for 2023. Latifi is expected to see out the rest of this season as of now, though.

[Ben]

They'll need time to find a new sponsor to replace Sofina. The Latifi's bring a lot of money into that team.

EDIT: Ah, it looks like Williams are going ahead with the switch to Renault engines next year. That will explain them not needing a pay driver.

[Ben]

Merc have proper fucked themselves. They've repeatedly called for FIA to do something about porpoising expecting them to standardise ride height or something but instead they've said they're just going to measure vertical movement, essentially forcing Mercedes into making their car shitter, and the smoother cars like the ominous Bull can just proceed as they are.

[Disco]

Only way to do it, this must be the one time a year Christian Horner is right.

[Ben]

I don't know what else Mercedes were expecting, really. Unlike them to do something so uncalculated.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's like when cricket captains try to get the ball changed. Indiscriminate bleating because people with the kind of mentality you need to get to the top of sport/business are unable to process failure.

[Disco]

Perhaps they knew they would have to raise the ride height anyway and this might mean other people have to as well, classic crab bucket tactics. Or they thought it would be a ride height mandate rather than this.

[Shindig]

This is all fine until Mercedes raise their ride height and the floor starts creating lift on the Mulsan... I mean, Monza.

[niko_cee]

Maybe that's how the new regs were meant to encourage (literal) overtaking.

[Foe]

Looking a bit moist here.

[Gray Fox]

I do love a wet qualifying.

[Waffdon]

Well, Aston Martin’s earlier promise didn’t last. Lol.

[Waffdon]

Can’t believe Latifi managed to stay on the track

[Waffdon]

Shame that wasn’t Verstappen.

[Gray Fox]

Oh well Checo, there's always next year.

[Ben]

Verstappen pole for sure.

[Gray Fox]

The wet stuff does sort the men from the boys.

[Waffdon]

I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins 75% of the next races. Hopefully a kiss of death.

[Gray Fox]

This is all well and good until someone(Mick) tries to go on softs as a gamble and bins it, ruining everyones lap.

[Ben]

Russell softs :drool:

[Shindig]

Tomorrow's dry so I can't believe this shook up grid will stick.

[Waffdon]

Alonso :cool:

Tomorrow might be chaotic at the start with Mick chilling in 5th. He’ll be confused being that far up.

[Gray Fox]

Alonso's going to be a pain for everyone behind him. Look how much trouble people had passing him in Baku.

[John Arne]

Verstappen to lap everybody.

[Waffdon]

Ted’s Notebook should really be an hour long. I could watch him or Brundle walk about and be unscripted all day every day.

[Disco]

Come on Nando, stick the Dutch knobhead into a hedge.

[Waffdon]

Hamilton can’t even get close to Alonso.

[Waffdon]

Now make Max’s engine pop off too :drool:

[Shindig]

Red Bull power units. :drool:

[Giggles]

Cert Verstappens goes now too. You rarely see one without the other these days.

[Waffdon]

Mick :D

Poor bastard

[Giggles]

“Hamilton’s complaining about…..” could be a new drinking game.

[Waffdon]

Looks like they’ve made Leclerc’s Car worse.

[Waffdon]

Sainz slowly getting my hopes up with him clawing back Verstappen but the latter is probably managing his tyres

Ferrari :face:

They’re a shambles

[Disco]

Ferrari really gambling on another safety car? That seems a very odd way of potentially losing to Hamilton as well as Verstappen.

[Waffdon]

Lucky bastards.

Come on Carlos :drool:

[Disco]

:gs:

[Waffdon]

Hamilton isn’t half paranoid. Bloody hell.

[Giggles]

This is surely going only one way. Only a matter of what lap Verstappen and Sainz crash on.

[Waffdon]

Verstappen will retire the best ever. And quite easily too.

[Shindig]

Sainz just doesn't have it.

[Ben]

Latifi won Driver of the Day so they had to rig it for Leclerc. :D

[Disco]

Sainz just doesn't have it.

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[Ben]

While I don't disagree with this notion, the criticism yesterday is a bit unwarranted I think. Verstappen and Sainz were both on the hards and Verstappen's weren't exactly falling apart; they were only about nine laps old(er). Not to mention Max is on a completely different level. If it was up against Perez, for instance, Sainz would have got past.

[Disco]

He needed Verstappen to make a mistake, which he doesn't do often.

[Shindig]

That’s the thing. I don’t see Sainz as the kind to throw caution to the wind.

[Ben]

I was half expecting a coded message to Sainz to send a highly risky one up the inside into the last chicane. A couple of times he was close enough that he could have had a lunge. If Max is thinking about the driver's championship, he gets out of the way. If Max fights it, there's a big chance of a double DNF for Red Bull which helps Ferrari in both championships.

[Shindig]

Especially if this season swings on DNF’s like last year.

[thommo]

Juri Vips, F2 driver, suspended by Red Bull for a racial slur. Just idiotic.

[Disco]

Unlike Kyle Larson I suspect he isn't good enough to come back from this.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYp9eGC3Cc

I'd hate to race in a pack of those. Bloody sandstorm.

[Lewis]

Look at it go. Formula 1 cars should be that big to look faster.

[Giggles]

That type of car is up there with a motorbike for me. They could race to save the planet and I couldn't watch.

[Pepe]

Love to see it go.

[Disco]

It's close to sounding ok, how long can it drive like that for I wonder.

[Shindig]

Estimated driving time on a race track at a GT3 pace is about 30–60 minutes.

Yep. Electric sports car range remains piss poor and wildly effected by pace/weather.

[Disco]

30-60 minutes, would they like to a bit more vague?

[Pepe]

That's the thing with electric vehicles. Environmental factors can have a massive effect.

[Shindig]

Yep. Running on a hot day wipes your range out.

[John Arne]

Yep. Running on a hot day wipes your range out.

Is that because more energy is needed to cool the car or simply the battery isn't as efficient when warm?

[Shindig]

In an electric vehicle, the cooling system is regulating the temperature of the battery pack and some of the electronics. Most electric vehicles use a cooling loop. This loop usually contains an ethylene glycol coolant. The coolant is circulated through the batteries and some of the electronics, using an electric pump.

That probably suggests that it's both.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I see Nelson Piquet's finally being cancelled, about 40 years too late.

[Gray Fox]

When Max has a kid with Kelly it's going to be a horrible mix of all of them.

[Disco]

They've doubled down on it now too, apparently Grandma Piquet was always racist when they were growing up so it's somehow ok for them.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XyjFfLsRyo

Always my favourite Piquet moment, not least for the Murray Walker commentary. 100% Piquet's fault as well, despite what toffee nosed elitist James Hunt said.

[Disco]

He's had another go today, this time with the 'Sorry for any offence, BUT.....' which is always a great look.

In other racist news Juri Vips has been retained by his F2 team, which has also gone down extremely well.

[Giggles]

What is this bullshit with the bus and ice cream van. Does this go on at other races and we just don’t see it?

[Disco]

Is it one of those Sky things? They do those all the time; lawnmower racing, they did jetskis at Monaco one year, loads of different things.

[Gray Fox]

GOATifi showing Albon who's boss.

[Giggles]

Sick of this wet stuff. Seems like it’s every second race at this stage.

[Gray Fox]

TV Race Director absolutely shocking there. It was as if we only have Max and LeClerc on laps there.

We didn't see anyone on a lap after Max.

[Gray Fox]

1543534822471204864

Halo saving another life in the F2 race.

[Shindig]

The state of that driving.

[Disco]

The stupid kerb is to blame, without that it's just some sidepod damage.

[Gray Fox]

Nothing beats a Brundle grid walk.

[Giggles]

Just turned on and thought that was R Kelly for a second :D

[Giggles]

They’re really pumping the Silverstone thing hard this year, all day yesterday too. I know it’s the channels home race but it’s a decent track in a horrible venue and not much more.

[Gray Fox]

Might have something to do with the fact that it's at risk of falling off the calendar.

Expect the same at Spa.

[Shindig]

Get another crack at that start, Carlos.

[Waffdon]

How many cars were involved in that? 4?

Race over anyway with Max in 1st. Cheers, Carlos.

[Giggles]

Was the car upside down going off? It’s not wonderful that they haven’t shown a thing yet.

[Gray Fox]

Zhou is upside down pinned in the car. No replays being shown here could be very bad.

[Giggles]

Might have something to do with the fact that it's at risk of falling off the calendar.

Expect the same at Spa.

That would explain it alright. Would be a disgrace if it wasn’t on the calendar.

[Shindig]

Race over anyway with Max in 1st. Cheers, Carlos.

They didn't complete the first lap, did they? They should be back in grid positions.

[Waffdon]

Says lap 2 but red flag was definitely beforehand it was even half way complete

[Gray Fox]

Fuck me we nearly had a car in the crowd.

[Gray Fox]

I suspect a lot of this is a result of 3 differing tyre types on the starting grid. George getting no traction there really was the catalyst for all of that.

[Ben]

They didn't complete the first lap, did they? They should be back in grid positions.

Sky seem really perplexed that it’s back to grid order but they didn’t even complete a sector so the running order was very confusing anyway.

[Giggles]

They didn't complete the first lap, did they? They should be back in grid positions.

If that’s a thing then the whole Sky commentary team haven’t a breeze.

[Giggles]

The sustainability crowd :rolleyes:

Pity they weren’t all run over.

[Gray Fox]

I believe the ruling is that when a red flag is flown, the race order reverts back the the last completed lap. As we haven't had one, it's back to Qualy order.

[Pepe]

What is this racing? Bring back the street circuits.

[Shindig]

Bottled.

[Giggles]

Sainz shat himself there.

[Spikey M]

:D retards

[Shindig]

Latifi in 8th. Heck. Might be 7th now for that puncture.

[Giggles]

Had he even got a puncture?

[Shindig]

Maybe suspension? Probably power unit. Bodywork, apparently.

[Giggles]

I love the tone of the engineer basically telling him to fuck up and get on with it.

[Disco]

Charles is faster than you.

[Giggles]

Charles is faster than you.

I doubt he is with that wing. And if he is then Sainz needs to get the road fairly quick.

[Disco]

:harold:

[Shindig]

Zhou declared fit. The halo's proving a godsend in crashes where the roll hoop's collapsed.

[Disco]

Cheering someone overtaking Verstappen for 8th is a bit small time, at least wait until he gets lapped.

[Pepe]

What is this racing? Bring back the street circuits.

^

[Pepe]

Perez. :cool:

Happy for Sainz, but he was lucky after that early fuckup.

[Gray Fox]

That was incredible.

[Pepe]

Yeah, incredible racing. Looking like Moto 2 for a while there.

[SincereTheRebel]

Leclerc was my driver of the day. His defending on these hard tyres was sensational.

[Giggles]

I switched over after the commentary group were pure cert on a Hamilton win when he was closing on LeClerc. Where did he finish after?

[Shindig]

3rd. He, Perez and LeClerc were scrapping which allowed Sainz to get a gap.

[Gray Fox]

I switched over after the commentary group were pure cert on a Hamilton win when he was closing on LeClerc. Where did he finish after?

Safety car cut his chances.

If no safety car, he was likely battling LeClerc at the death as Sainz was having to fuel save.

Once the safety car happened, Perez was brought back into it and he, Hamilton and LeClerc all squabbled while Sainz drove off up the road to win.

[Ben]

What’s with the capital C in Leclerc all of a sudden?

[niko_cee]

Good race.

Hamilton has definitely had the short end of the incident luck this year. Every time he gets himself into a reasonable offset position someone breaks down and fucks him over. Didn't help himself on the restart though. That Ferrari message about leaving 10 cars was lol and got the requisite response from Sainz. Erm, grazie mille but no, are you mad?

[Giggles]

Is that Sainz first win? I seen it was first pole but did he get a mclaren win?

[Ben]

Ferrari are a complete shambles of a team. If something can be fucked up, they’ll make a good go of it.

[Gray Fox]

What’s with the capital C in Leclerc all of a sudden?

I’ve always had it down as that since he came into the sport. That or Charrrrrlllll.

Is it not?

[Shindig]

I flip between them.

[Giggles]

I’ve always thought it was LeClerc. Either works better than being a mong and thinking he’s your mate with the Charles crap that is infested F1.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's Leclerc. The other is how yanks would spell it, e.g. Matt LeBlanc.

I missed this, someone said Zhou ended up on his head.

[Giggles]

It's Leclerc. The other is how yanks would spell it, e.g. Matt LeBlanc.

I missed this, someone said Zhou ended up on his head.

If there wasn’t a halo he’d have ended up on his shoulders.

[Disco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFoGXGLRtyk

[Jimmy Floyd]

Uh.

Would it have rolled or something pre-halo? I can't remember seeing a skid of that distance in the old days.

[Shindig]

Might've rolled if the roll hoop hadn't already caved.

[Giggles]

I do remember them remarking that it was strange it didn’t roll sooner when they finally showed it. It was ages before they knew he was out and ok.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah the roll hoop was already gone before he even hit the gravel. He was probably dead a few times over without the Halo.

[Disco]

The roll hoop was fine, it just lost the airbox, the roll back off the fence was probably the most useful bit for the halo.

[Clunge]

That was a cracker.

[Gray Fox]

So in investigating all aspects of the porpoising going on, the FIA have found that some teams are actually flexing the floor/plank way above their intended margin. The teams haven't done anything wrong technically, but it's another one of those 'rules as written' vs 'rules as intended' arguments.

The teams involved are believed to be Red Bull and Ferrari. All teams have been given until the French GP to conform too.

There's potential that Hamilton getting a bad back in Baku could lead to Mercedes being a front runner again, assuming the Red Bull/Ferrari fixes slow the car down a bit.

[Ben]

Yeah I saw this the other day. It’s a really clever workaround to be honest but as you said, Ferrari and Red Bull seem to be the worst offenders.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hadn't checked the points standings for a while. Ferrari have done a woeful job with the speed they have.

Lando to Merc must be in play at some point, depending on how long LH can be arsed to continue.

[Gray Fox]

We've got these exact regulations for 2 more years after this one, right? I suspect he'll see what kind of car Mercedes can give him by the end of the year before deciding.

[Clunge]

2026 is more about engine changes, I thought? Unless they've left the prospect of another aero overhaul open.

[Disco]

Perhaps we can have another secret deal like last time Ferrari definitely weren't cheating.

[niko_cee]

Getting a competitive advantage by having bits of your car flex when they're not meant to for half a season before the FIA catches up to you seems to be a fairly standard practice now.

[Disco]

Only for the last 30 years or so.

Proper qualy at 4pm today don't forget.