F1 2022 - El Plan

[Gray Fox]

Two wheels and not four, but even so:

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[igor_balis]

I haven't yet found a documentary about a subject I know (a lot) about which is even slightly convincing. Sport is particularly bad for it, as the film makers are always looking to simplify the narrative and things like actual results tend to get in the way of that.

Literally the ones that consistently manage it the best for me are a pretty obscure wrestling podcast called the lapsed fan, because they operate under the assumption (correctly) that all the listeners are as autistic in their zeal for fake sports, and cus one of the hosts is a proper investigative journalist. So if you wanna spend 8 hours listening to discussions on the Vince McMahon steroid trial you're sorted.

It's actually why, to be fair, why YouTube is great for niche interest documentaries, cus you're not worried about explaining basics to normies. I learn more from blokes with a $500 microphone and premiere pro than proper stuff than "proper documentaries" these days.

The problem isn't just that they're accomodating newbies (which is fair enough for mainstream stuff), it's the additional assumption that everyone is a fucking idiot and obsessing over bollocks like "building a narrative".

[Disco]

Car bad, bike worse. Jesus christ that looked unpleasant.

[Giggles]

As always, fuck BT and their tweet geo locking nonsense.

[Disco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me0SGH_kV98

[Ben]

Holy shit. Thanks to all the sport in recent weeks I’m behind on MotoGP, just managed to watch Qatar.

[John Arne]

There's more people on the grid than in the crowd :D

Also, Jools Holland is predicting McLaren to win...

[Ben]

All this hype for Leclerc to go into anti-stall off the line and Max to disappear up the road.

[Ben]

This grid graphic is fucking horrendous as well. So that's a full house in the graphic department, everything is worse.

[Ben]

Kev :cool:

[John Arne]

To whom it may concern, Bottas is 8 places down after 2 laps.

[Gray Fox]

McLaren in even worse shape than thought here.

[Gray Fox]

Keeping a lookout to see if anyone else struggles with tyre temps out of the pit lane. Could remove a lot of the undercut potential if that's an issue from now on.

[Ben]

The blankets aren't as hot now so I wouldn't expect the undercut to be so powerful anymore thankfully. In fact, we might see the return of our old friend the overcut in some races.

[Ben]

Max flying on these new softs.

[Waffdon]

This is great

[Ben]

It would have been great for a while longer it seemed if Max didn't destroy that front right.

[Gray Fox]

Max should have been a bit smarter there and done him on the 2nd DRS straight.

[Waffdon]

Merc having much slower pit stops than the others

[Gray Fox]

Mercedes power doesn't look like the unit you want in your car now either.

[Ben]

The new safety car. :drool:

[Disco]

Mercedes power doesn't look like the unit you want in your car now either.

You were saying.

[Ben]

Kev :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Absolutely stunning.

Get fucked Whinger Spice.

[Waffdon]

Red Bull :D

[Disco]

What a beautiful last few laps.

[John Arne]

https://img.redbull.com/images/c_limit,w_1500,h_1000,f_auto,q_auto/redbullcom/2020/3/3/zz97vzoqoiq48gf6v48a/christian-horner-garage

[thommo]

Great end to the race but it's still fucking dull having a Merc back on the podium.

[7om]

Ferrari :drool:
Magnussen / Bottas :drool:
Horner :lol:

[Waffdon]

Ferrari really do have two nicest blokes in the world driving for them

[Giggles]

That’s about as perfect as it could have worked out for Mercedes. They’ll improve the car back to the front of the grid after this long test and we all know Ferrari haven’t got it in them to sustain a title challenge.

[Gray Fox]

3/4 Red Bull Powertrains did not finish the race with an engine issue.

Please shove Horner in front of every camera now please.

[Disco]

He'll call them Hondas today.

[Pepe]

I had to leave soon after Verstappen tried to pass Leclerc three times and just came back to this result. The fuck happened to the Red Bulls?

EDIT: Wait, the engines blew? :D

[Pepe]

Loving the looks of the cars btw.

[Disco]

Both retired, Max with some battery/engine issue and Perez with something similar although I didn't hear if he said the engine locked or he couldn't restart it after spinning at T1.

[Pepe]

Cheers. I was hoping for a full lap of cars blowing smoke and putting oil all over the place.

[thommo]

It could have been all completely battery/energy related. Gasly has his engine completely shut off which caused the initial Safety Car too.

[Disco]

https://i.imgur.com/uHq60Ny.jpg

[7om]

What’s the story with McLaren? Have they got the new regs completely wrong or what?

[phonics]

All of Mercs supply teams were bottom.

[niko_cee]

That was some funny shit at the end.

"Red Bull Power Trains" obviously didn't poach enough of the Merc folk.

[7om]

All of Mercs supply teams were bottom.

True but Merc were on the podium so the engine can’t be that shit.

[7om]

Surprised Horner’s not blaming Merc to be honest.

[Ben]

Engines have been frozen so it's virtually impossible for the Merc PU to be suddenly shit. It's more a case of Ferrari PU regaining parity and the Merc powered teams having their own exclusive issues (eg. McLaren brakes, Aston ride height).

[Gray Fox]

Mercedes were bailed out by the safety car, but they put themselves there with that weird stint on hards.

20-30 secs back in real world pace. They really need to find half a second a lap to be properly competitive.

[Giggles]

Is all this just because he dared beat Sir Lewis? I mean, when you’re saying people shouldn’t move jobs then the barrel is being scraped.

[7om]

I’ve missed happy Gunther.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I missed the race but Verstappen DNF both made me lol and sets the series up a bit.

Hamilton in inferior machinery :drool:

[Ben]

Hamilton showed more happiness over that third that practically any of his wins in the last two years. He could be a sight to behold this season (like Alonso 2012).

[Shindig]

Great finish although the DRS tango between Max and Charles had me a bit worried. I thought it would be carrying on for laps. And that Marquez crash doesn't look too clever. He loves a high side but he's probably one big smash away from retirement.

[Giggles]

Why didn't Verstappen stay in 2nd until the second go at it after he got retaken the first time round anyway?

[Giggles]

Looking at those Indy cars would make you appreciate the halo.

[Ben]

And that Marquez crash doesn't look too clever. He loves a high side but he's probably one big smash away from retirement.

You would think so. His frequency of coming off the bike at high speed since his initial injury is just insane.

[Ben]

Why didn't Verstappen stay in 2nd until the second go at it after he got retaken the first time round anyway?

Because he's not got the race brain that the likes of Leclerc, Alonso and Hamilton do. Leclerc outright said after the race he just held back to get the DRS; Max just wants to do them at the first opportunity because he always thinks he will fuck off up the road.

He's been in the sport seven years now so it might never come (hopefully) but if it does then the rest of the field is fucked because he's by far the fastest.

[Ben]

A missile has just hit an Aramco plant down the road from the circuit during FP1. :eyemouth:

[Disco]

Session delayed by a meeting with all drivers and TP's, if twitter is to be believed the number of people wanting to can the entire weekend was not zero.

[Giggles]

Who’s at that? Our old friends?

[Disco]

Houthis/Yemenis firing missiles at the Saudis.

[Ben]

I've just come in from cutting the grass and FP2 is on so I'm assuming once again: cash is king.

[Disco]

Paul di Resta is back on commentary so they could just be protesting that, a cause we can all get behind.

[Shindig]

Unless there's an oil depot at T1, we'll be fine.

[thommo]

All team principals unanimously have decided to continue with the race weekend.

[Ben]

All team principals handed a brown envelope by the Saudi monarchy too. Apparently Perez one of the drivers not too happy about the show going on.

[Disco]

Everybody has decided to continue getting paid, probably the right thing once you've decided to go there in the first place

[niko_cee]

Random missile attacks are probably less dangerous than the track itself.

[Disco]

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[Gray Fox]

I can't imagine there's many drivers who want to be there right now. It's surely canned from here right?

[Disco]

https://i.imgur.com/FjC2shj.png

Do I spy Fernando Alonso wearing a fetching pair of jorts?

[Disco]

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Good job they're all evening sessions because that would be pretty obvious.

[Gray Fox]

Twitter talk says there's a stalemate. Some want to go, some dont. I hope we don't get to a point of having only half of a grid.

[niko_cee]

Turns out it wasn't a Houthi missile, but rather an injudiciously placed red bull power train.

Merc won't want it as their car is extra shite in the fast bit, obviously the men in red will be all over let's race now, no one really gives a fuck about the oil terminal blowing up I wouldn't imagine. Tell them to get on with it. An oil terminal going up in smoke is probably quite a good metaphor for something or other to do with motorsport in the 21st century.

[Giggles]

But eventually they were convinced to go ahead and race after being given further information by bosses.

Part of this information involved the possible consequences of not racing, such as how easily teams and drivers would be able to leave the country if the race did not happen.


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[Ben]

Well they’ve got form for holding sports to ransom.

[Kikó]

Joke of a sport.

[John Arne]

I just read that they have pushed back the barrier where VER stacked it in quali past year :D

God forbid there's some excitement.

[Adramelch]

He would have gone into the same barrier yesterday if it was still there as well.

[Pepe]

Joke of a country.

Agreed.

[SincereTheRebel]

These F2 cars sound so good.

[7om]

Get Latifi out of this sport.

[Shindig]

Alpha Tauri's fuel pumps are playing up.

[Disco]

Mercedes look even further behind than last week, they need to end up fastest by a distance or it will rank as one of the worst concepts in the history of the sport.

[Gray Fox]

As is Mercedes entire car. :eyemouth:

[Disco]

Lol.

[7om]

Fuck me. That is truly shocking.

[Gray Fox]

Almost second per lap on straights alone. They either need to abandon the car concept now, or bring something that'll fix it immediately.

[Giggles]

Oh my. That’s Christian Horner spraying all over your faces now.

[Disco]

They must have so much aero on it to get through the corners, but it doesn't explain the gap to Russell.

[Gray Fox]

Ferrari will be laughing themselves to sleep Sunday night. Mercedes nowhere near and Red Bull Powertrains failing everywhere.

[Clunge]

Must surely be set up or a fault with Russell doing fine enough.

[Gray Fox]

Good lord. I hope he's alright there.

[Clunge]

Fucking hell, that was brutal. The sort of crash we've been anticipating here since last year.

[niko_cee]

This track is a bit of a joke really.

[Shindig]

It needs some serious work on it to really make it safe. Maybe ask Yemen to lob another missile across on Monday morning.

[Gray Fox]

Absolutely torn the car in half. One of those where you're wondering how the guy survives.

[Waffdon]

Ferrari 1/2 tomorrow again. Perez will probably drop to 4th after the first lap

[Shindig]

I wouldn't want to make any predictions around this track. Any mistake can be costly.

[Gray Fox]

My prediction is big pile up. They're very close to contact here as is. Add in high fuel and following another car and you potentially have disaster coming.

[Giggles]

Disgrace. Cancel it so Tim Lewis can get the car fixed.

[niko_cee]

Is he something to do with Mercedes?

Given where they are with the car this is probably as good a track as any for them to get any sort of result on. Could easily be an elbows out clusterfuck at the top of the order.

[Gray Fox]

It’s a perfect chance to test Lewis’ car tomorrow. As it is he’ll struggle to reach points. Might as well change parts and pit lane start it.

[Shindig]

Schumacher's smash looked gnarly. I haven't seen a car look so shredded. Even the T-cam was hanging off. I'd be amazed if he's cleared to race.

[Clunge]

Hospitalised overnight. No chance he’ll race.

[Disco]

They've already withdrawn him, no replacement so I assume the car couldn't be repaired either.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Tc03_md04

Stop getting Bond wrong!

[Gray Fox]

There is zero of that car that's being saved. Which will also probably impact Haas again further into the season.

[Gray Fox]

Yuki conking out there completes the set for Red Bull Powertrains inside 2 races.

[Ben]

Kind of weird considering it's still the same Honda as last year and they were reliable.

[7om]

Minimum 2 red flags.

[Ben]

I actually checked Bet365 for red flag during the race but couldn't find it. Safety car is 1/6 which is free money.

[7om]

I’d be betting on that. It absolutely will happen.

[Adramelch]

Isn't safety car a guarantee in any race with Latifi on the grid?

[7om]

Get Latifi out of this sport. He seems like a lovely guy but he’s nowhere near good enough.

[niko_cee]

Loltifi.

[Adramelch]

Also fucked Perez in the process.

[Gray Fox]

Who put the bet on then?

[Ben]

Just put my safety car money on Max. 5/2 is too good.

[7om]

A Haas overtaking a Merc :drool:

[Waffdon]

Verstappen is such a clipe :lol:

[phonics]

I love the helmet cam.

[7om]

The fuck? Three retirements in about 60 seconds.

[Gray Fox]

Perhaps these cars do not like the heat.

[phonics]

Why would you not put softs on Hamilton considering he only had 9 laps left.

[niko_cee]

This is the stupidest race track ever conceived.

[7om]

Something needs to be done about these DRS detection lines. It’s borderline dangerous the way they are playing cat and mouse with it.

[Shindig]

Why would you not put softs on Hamilton considering he only had 9 laps left.

Had he not already used that compound? I'd still do it for the grip.

[Waffdon]

Leclerc :drool:

[7om]

Had he not already used that compound? I'd still do it for the grip.

Hamilton started on hards.

[Waffdon]

Lol.

I really don’t understand the VSC. Verstappen wasn’t getting close to him before it.

[Gray Fox]

What a race. These cars are great.

[Shindig]

I hope this fight between Max and Leclerc keeps up.

[SincereTheRebel]

Mad race

[Waffdon]

Leclerc is the nicest bloke in the world

[Ben]

Why would you not put softs on Hamilton considering he only had 9 laps left.

The softs probably wouldn’t perform even for that long especially if you’re hammering them constantly looking for overtakes. The mediums come to temperature a lot easier too. Unless you’re going for fastest lap then the softs aren’t worth it.

[thommo]

Class race. I know the track is mental and overly dangerous, but it has the best broadcast cameras for really conveying the speed of the cars through the corners.

The new cars are really shining too, lots of overtakes and close running. Shame we have to wait 2 weeks for Melbourne now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Already bored of night street races, give me sunshine and grass please.

[Giggles]

I love the track. Always one of the more entertaining watches.

[phonics]

The Alonso/Ocon stuff at the beginning was so good. I’m loving this multi lap racing that seems to be happening.

[Gray Fox]

Just put my safety car money on Max. 5/2 is too good.

:cool:

[niko_cee]

Something needs to be done about these DRS detection lines. It’s borderline dangerous the way they are playing cat and mouse with it.

Maybe they need a system where you can only get DRS off cars you are behind at the beginning of a lap [so no DRS if you get passed just prior to the detection point] but I don't know how automated the system is and how likely that would be to be workable.

These cars do seem to be quite good at following each other closely, so it'll be good to see what they are like when they get to some actual racetracks.

Bit disappointed with the promise of 'high deg' only for the cars to seemingly be able to do a full race on the hards with no real issue.

[Ben]

They said when these regulations were first proposed that DRS could hopefully be eliminated if it was proven the cars could race well enough authentically. Maybe that’s close now, I’d certainly support a couple of trial races.

[Adramelch]

Yeah DRS needs to go in my opinion. Feels like it just takes away the actual racing aspect and it's only there for artifically creating the spectacle.

[Shindig]

At the same time, ditching it this season doesn't feel like a fair thing to do. Like how they introduced sprint races at a handful of circuits.

[Clunge]

They should seek to make the aero rules incrementally tougher for each of the next three seasons, i.e. keep forcing the teams to find downforce elsewhere and improve the wake situation. Only needs to be a 5-10% penalty each season. Then they can start looking to get rid of DRS. I think at the moment, removing it would be too soon.

[Disco]

They just need to move the lines about a bit so it's not as powerful as it was yesterday.

[Shindig]

Mosley went out like Hitler (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60919994)

Hope it was right at the end of an orgy.

[Giggles]

Best way to go at that stage.

[Ben]

Vegas is official from next season. A Saturday night race, what the fuck.

[7om]

The track layout looks amazing.

[Giggles]

That’s going to be class.

[Ben]

That's a long back straight, but I've had my fill of street circuits now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's too long a lap for a street circuit. Similar reason I don't like Singapore.

[Gray Fox]

Pessimism should always be had with those across the pond when it comes to them making a good racing track.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, that's a long back straight. Looks a pretty dull layout. They should have done it in the style of the old Hockenheim and just had a massive run out into the desert or tried to recreate one of the Gran Turismo special stage tracks for nightime glitziness.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Motor racing in Las Vegas has been going downhill ever since the stuff described in Fear and Loathing.

[Shindig]

Looks a lot better than hairpins in the Caesar's Palace car park. Still, looks like the kind of street circuit you'd get at the arse end of a Forza/Gran Turismo knockoff.

[Disco]

Timezones mean it will be early Sunday morning for us, 3/4am I think. No promoter either, F1 doing all the legwork themselves.

[Ben]

It's worth the risk to crack the American market.

Won't stop me complaining about the time and circuit though.

[Disco]

The layout will be shit because they'll want it to go past all the various burger shops, or whatever they're trying to replace the casinos with. Which raises an interesting wrinkle with going to landmark cities rather than decent racing facilities, once you put the required barriers, fences, and Aramco stickers up it looks the same as anywhere else (and is still a shit street circuit). Watch a formula e race (don't) and see if you can identify the city. Having it on Thanksgiving is an interesting one, Americans will have to tell us if sitting down to a GP at 10pm clashes with the usual festivities.

[Clunge]

Ngl, quite excited for Australia. One of only a few perennials left since I started watching F1 in the mid-to-late-90s. Always seems to produce better racing than it has any right to.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hungary is the great survivor. Bernie put it there in 1986 to try and crack 'behind the iron curtain', a market that has remained utterly untouched ever since, and yet the Hungaroring somehow still stands.

[Clunge]

It's another track that has, in recent years, provided some remarkably good racing for a track where overtaking is so difficult. Hill in the Arrows, Button for BAR, Hamilton turning round that dog of a McLaren, the amazing Hamilton one-car start last year, etc. It delivers more often than some more exciting tracks.

[John Arne]

It's another track that has, in recent years, provided some remarkably good racing for a track where overtaking is so difficult. Hill in the Arrows, Button for BAR, Hamilton turning round that dog of a McLaren, the amazing Hamilton one-car start last year, etc. It delivers more often than some more exciting tracks.

Indeed. Given the track, especially the narrowness and particularly in sector 3, it's amazing how racy it gets sometimes.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's because it (like Imola) is an actual racing circuit that requires various driving skills and has pitfalls, and not the modern idea of a track which is three drag strips and getting a good exit from hairpins.

Also usually run in very hot conditions, which helps.

[Disco]

https://i.imgur.com/wBOE8U5.png

[Ben]

I don't know whether to facepalm this or not. I think the zones might be short enough that we won't see the idiocy of Bahrain and, especially, Saudi Arabia; it could just bunch them up through the fast sections, leading to more authentic overtakes in the corners than we would see without DRS. At least the detection lines aren't back-to-back so we shouldn't see the cat and mouse crap.

If it turns out cars can just blast past half way through the zone then I'm going to say I told you so and seethe after the fact.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They won't work, the zones are too short. It's just desperation to get loads of overtaking at a circuit that doesn't really lend itself to it.

Overtaking is overrated. It's the possibility of an overtake that makes for good racing.

[Pepe]

Nah, I think that overtaking is great. The thing is, it has to be hard. Overtaking because your car is 30 mph faster on a straight is as dull as no overtaking at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think that's what I was trying to say. It's quality of overtaking, not quantity.

[Giggles]

I’m watching this 2018 Australian race repeat and I have no recollection at all of Brendon Hartley.

[Disco]

Good sportscar driver but I don't think he did anything worth remembering in F1.

[Shindig]

The only thing I remember is his hair.

[thommo]

My main memory of Hartley was Stroll squeezing him into the wall (what a surprise, bot Lance causing a collision?!) at Montreal and causing a pretty big first-lap crash.

[Disco]

Can you really be said to be an F1 driver if Lance Stroll hasn't turned in on you?

[niko_cee]

Strategy presumably all boils down to when people think Latifi will bin it tomorrow.

Also lol at Stroll wiping him out.

Final runs in the dark at this rate.

[Shindig]

It's a shame the Aston's bobbins. Looks like Haas have had a wobble. I'd love Schumacher to get points on the board but it's probably not happening from 15th. Ocon vs Alonso, round three. They're fucking magnetised.

[Giggles]

Forgot all about this being on so early.

[Giggles]

The only reason I can ever think of for this Ted show and his rambling is that he has compromising photos of someone high up in Sky.

[Shindig]

That Canadian crash is one of the dumbest I've seen. Check your fucking mirrors, Lance.

[Giggles]

What’s Latifi playing at racing in qualifying though?

[Shindig]

He's not racing. He's let Lance past because he's the slower traffic. Lance doesn't immediately pull away so Latifi is all, "Well, I guess he's not on one." and then tried to take position back.

[Ben]

The only reason I can ever think of for this Ted show and his rambling is that he has compromising photos of someone high up in Sky.

It actually does decent numbers apparently.

[Gray Fox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9xnArvm6wE

The state of the Porpoising on that through sector 2.

It does suggest two things though. Firstly, George says the Mercedes will be much quicker once they can stop that, so are Mercedes doing something to try to offset it and slowing the car down by doing so?
If not, then that suggests that even though the Ferrari is the fastest car on the grid, it could then surely go a lot faster?

[Ben]

The prevailing opinion is that stopping porpoising (via aero "tricks" that Alpine revealed) on the straights may actually hinder you (I'm guessing because it creates more downforce so more drag), so Ferrari and Mercedes are basically telling their drivers to suck it up in that regard.

Mercedes problem is that the porpoising persists in high speed corners which just ruins the car's and driver's performance. They were genuinely quick in sector 1 then lost it all in the new fast section.

[Gray Fox]

Sainz so lucky not to collect someone there. Those hards look horrible to be on.

[Gray Fox]

Red Bull powertrains :D

[Gray Fox]

Not a bad race there given the wide cards and narrow track.
Even at this early stage, I think LeClerc will be very hard to catch. Red Bulls engines keep going pop and Mercedes are a good 7 tenths a lap off still.

[Disco]

Putting the pop into Fizzy Pop Powertrains.

[Giggles]

The polish is starting to run off Tim Lewis. "Go team" but he's seething he has another Rosberg on his hands now.

[niko_cee]

I was mostly watching it on fast forward whilst a small child screamed at me to PUT PEPPA PIG ON but wasn't the Hamilton/Russell switch around due to the latter being able to pit under the safety car?

Not sure the seethe level is the same if you don't have a championship winning car anyway, which they don't seem to at the moment.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't think Mercedes could have got a single point more from these races. lol Verstappen.

Aston 10th in the constructors, sad times.

[Shindig]

Haas vs Alpha vs Alfa. :drool:

Russell being 2nd in the standings is a bit mad.

[Ben]

It's utterly bizarre that the surprisingly reliable Honda unit has had nothing but a Red Bull rebadge this year and now it's finding new and interesting ways to blow up every weekend. A lot of the Honda guys have even been seconded to Red Bull for a few years.

[Shindig]

It's not surprising when you consider the new regulations must've impacted how the power unit is packaged. Fluid leaks, overheats and stuff can all be down to how it's crammed in there.

[7om]

Great drive from Albon today. 57 laps on the hards :drool:

[Adramelch]

I know Latifi is a meme for all the safety cars and whatnot, but holy shit Stroll is just a danger for everyone else on the grid it feels like.

[Disco]

Has anyone ever compiled a montage of him turning in on people, probably quicker just to rewatch the last 5 seasons.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's getting worse as well. Look out for a withdrawal from Daddy Stroll when writing finally meets wall.

[Disco]

If it weren't for all the (presumably) nice people who work there watching them implode this season would be beautiful schadenfreude.

[Shindig]

Can't he just sack his son?

[Disco]

I don't think Strulovich Snr is going very far, he's been in and around F1 as a sponsor for 20 odd years and the whole point of the F1 team is to make his expensive slice of Aston Martin stay at least as expensive. How many TP's he has to sack before they finally boot Lance remains to be seen.

[Shindig]

Has he set a date on when they plan to become a works team?

[Disco]

Seems a lot to take on when there's several companies looking to build engines for 2026.

[Ben]

Stroll was decent in 2020 but he's regressed massively since.

[Giggles]

Still can't see how the qualifying thing was him, other than the fact that he has a rich father.

[niko_cee]

He was quite sheepish/didn't come out and immediately blame the other guy in the interviews which I took to be an admission of guilt.

[thommo]

Brilliant drive from Albon, chuffed for him and Williams.


Has anyone ever compiled a montage of him turning in on people, probably quicker just to rewatch the last 5 seasons.
Last week on reddit, someone compiled a montage of him just turning on in other drivers. A few were just incidents but it's remarkable to see his complete lack of awareness which he further showed this weekend, both in qualifying and the race. He's genuinely fucking awful.

[Shindig]

It's a contrast when you see Alonso completely checking his mirrors on the first lap.

[Gray Fox]

Did Albon come out on the lead lap? I was thinking they made a genius move to get him to pit as they went a lap down and therefore make it so no one could overtake him.

And yes, Strulovic is in need of punting out of the sport.

[thommo]

Yeah came out just ahead of Leclerc, Zhou was also on the lead lap in 11th. He was 3 tenths down as they came into T1 but Zhou was already complaining about his old hards so he had no chance of getting past Albon on the last lap.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/61071954


His team has terminated his contract after he made the apparent gesture during the Italian national anthem, after twice thumping his chest.

Okay, so some people might've appreciated it. EDIT: Also his former employees call him a pilot. They're not pilots. They're drivers.

[SincereTheRebel]

Brilliant drive from Albon, chuffed for him and Williams.


Last week on reddit, someone compiled a montage of him just turning on in other drivers. A few were just incidents but it's remarkable to see his complete lack of awareness which he further showed this weekend, both in qualifying and the race. He's genuinely fucking awful.

Link?

[thommo]

Link?

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/tv3h9i/oc_14_instances_of_drivers_colliding_with_lance/

[Ben]

That first one. :|

[Shindig]

Whilst they're not all his fault, he really invites it leaving the door that open sometimes. I forgot about the Vettel one post-race. :D

[SincereTheRebel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/tv3h9i/oc_14_instances_of_drivers_colliding_with_lance/

Its like he invites you down his inside

[Disco]

It's like he was in an episode of Faking It and nobody told him it had finished.

[Giggles]

Whilst they're not all his fault, he really invites it leaving the door that open sometimes. I forgot about the Vettel one post-race. :D

After a couple of watches I was still wondering if they were all supposed to be his fault.

[Shindig]

The stewards mostly sided with him, by the looks of it. Overtaking's on the guy behind the get it done, even if he's not watching his mirrors and fixated on the apex.

[Disco]

https://i.imgur.com/LFqK4TS.png

In short, shut up your whinging on the radio.

[Shindig]

I'm eagerly awaiting a day when it just brake checks the field.

[Gray Fox]

Bring back the old days:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQSzSaaXsAMUqQL?format=jpg&name=large

[Shindig]

Yeah, maybe not. These cars bottom out enough without an Astra dragging them around on cold tyres.

[niko_cee]

Lotus Carlton :cool:

[Disco]

A Vectra I believe :dc:

At Imola too, what an odd choice.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, it's obviously not a Lotus, but I thought it would probably be a Carlton. Looked too early to be a Vectra.

[Lewis]

The Renault Clio Williams was the best. FACT.

[Giggles]

Wasn’t that era Vectra back when they had different names (Cavelier).

[niko_cee]

The Renault Clio Williams was the best. FACT.

Yeah, class car. Still see a few of them tooling around from time to time.

Was a bit disappointed when I found out the Espace F1 was actually just an Espace chassis with Prost's Renault F1 engine bolted into the middle of it. It sounds great, but I always liked the idea that it was somehow an insanely suped up practical wagon.

[Lewis]

How shit it was on Gran Turismo 2 ruined it for me.

[niko_cee]

I don't even remember it on that. I was probably too busy just ramming everyone out of existence with the Pikes Peak thing.

[Ben]

Lotus Carlton :cool:

My dad had one in the 90’s. Absolute monster. I checked them out on AutoTrader a few months ago and they go for obscene money now. Think my dad sold his to a guy in the pub for a few grand.

[Disco]

Wet qualy after just a single hours practice mostly spent skittering around in the damp. :drool:

[Ben]

Can’t believe Lewis is burning a set of inters here. It’s dry.

[Ben]

Latifi :facepalm:

[Ben]

That Merc is horrible.

[Giggles]

This is the worst qualifying I’ve ever sat through.

[Clunge]

Comical stuff at times. Everyone having the same issue at Acque Minerale, tagging the white line. Williams seem to have somehow unfixed their braking issue too. Lando though :hail:.

[Shindig]

Looks like we'll get Spa cancelled again if that's how they handle the wet stuff.

[Gray Fox]

Looks like maybe the Mercs found something in FP3.

Also good insight from Ted. It seems the Mercedes have caused their own problems porpoising wise by having so much exposed unsupported floor, due to the naked sidepod design.

Hopefully another Red Bull Powertrains failure today.

[Disco]

Make it more stronger should be the solution but I suspect they're trying to do some clever floor flexing which only has to be slightly wrong for it to not work at all.

[Disco]

Safety car already :D

[Giggles]

Fuck I hate these weekends and their stupid schedule.

[Shindig]

Aye, I even hate practice being jumbled up.

Schumacher might finally get some points tomorrow.

[Disco]

Sprints are shit, the grid for the race is objectively worse than it was this morning.

[Adramelch]

Ye it's completely pointless from an actual racing perspective.

[Gray Fox]

That was a pretty shit and pointless sprint for everyone below Mick. They all got stuck behind Vettel in a DRS train and could do nothing about it because there's no pit stops.

[Disco]

The DRS looks a bit too spicy too, the other issue with this format as I don't think it can be altered now.

[Pepe]

Damn, forgot about the stupid sprint shit. I have yet to watch one. Judging from the comments, probably for the better.

[Giggles]

I think I like the night races better.