2021 NFL Fantasy Football

[Browning]

Don't think we've had a new thread since about 2017 so it's probably time to make one for this year....

I'd assume that all players from last year are returning? Really it's only Ian and Baz I haven't spoken to about it yet.

Season is sneaking up on me quickly so I guess it's time to start discussing when we should draft. I have a draft this Saturday, but otherwise i'm open to any evening really (preferably Friday or Saturday, but I could make other days work).

Season starts on Thursday the 9th, so we'll have to schedule it before then, and have time to do keepers. We'll stick with the 2 keeper format from previous years, I think.

[Gray Fox]

For ease of getting time for the keepers sorted out, it's likely best to be either 28/29th or the 4/5th of September.

I'm good for any of those evenings.

[Baz]

Count me in.

Any day should be fine.

[Ian]

RIP 2017 thread. :( I'll need to check if I have any backshifts which will interfere. I shall report back tomorrow.

[Gray Fox]

I also look forward to the Ian MINDGAMES.

[Dan]

Yeah, most evenings over the weekends should be fine for me too.

[Lofty]

If there is space I will be top waiver wanker.

[Browning]

If we can find one more interested party we could extend from 10 teams to 12, although the newcomers wouldn't get any keepers for the first season.

[Pleb]

Ideally a Sunday evening for me.

Love to be awkward.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can do most nights.

[Browning]

If Sundays are best for Pleb maybe we should aim for Sunday the 5th with the previous Sunday as the keeper deadline? Something like a 9pm start time?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Should be good for me.

[Ian]

28th August and 4th to the 7th September are the nights I definitely can't do for that end of August / start of September period but I appreciate that rules out some prime draft dates so if the 5th works for everybody else then go for it. I'll make sure I have my keepers in in uncharacteristically timely fashion and leave my draft in the hands of fate (or try and make an effort for the autodraft thing.)

[Browning]

Can you do the 29th? If people can get me their keepers in the next few days we can make that work?

[Ian]

29th would be perfect for me, I'm off the Monday.

[Baz]

29th suits me.

Is there anyone from my team I can’t keep?


If we can find one more interested party we could extend from 10 teams to 12, although the newcomers wouldn't get any keepers for the first season.
My mate would probably join. Every year he moans that he’s playing with strangers and wishes he was in my league.

[Gray Fox]

29th suits me.

Is there anyone from my team I can’t keep?

You will have kept 2 from last year, so they're out, as is anyone you waivered in that wasn't drafted.

[Baz]

You will have kept 2 from last year, so they're out, as is anyone you waivered in that wasn't drafted.

Was hard to find because the app is naff so here’s a link to last seasons draft results: https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/2020/f1/104282/draftresults?pspid=782200945&activity=draftresults

So I can’t keep Tyreek Hill or Kenyan Drake. :thbup:

[Ian]

Is it letting you sign in just now? I got in fine earlier this morning but am now getting "Uh-oh...We can’t sign you in right now. Please try again in a while."

[Browning]

Yea, I can get in.

And yea, that's right Baz. Hill, Drake and anyone who went completely undrafted because they don't have a price.

[Ian]

So I can keep anybody but Watson (not gutted about that) and Henry, right?

[Browning]

Similar to Baz, they have to have a value (e.g. they have to have been drafted last year) but yea, as long as they were, and it's not those 2 players, or someone who was kept by someone else that you acquired, you'll be fine.

To simplify it, these players are not available as keepers:

CMC, Zeke, Tyreek Hill, Watson, Henry, Kupp, Kyler Murray, Sanders, Singletary, Allen Robinson, Loomar, Drake, Sutton, Rudolph, Golden Tate, Metcalf, Fant, Josh Allen

[Ian]

Yeah, they were the ones with a K by them in my draft from last year.

[Browning]

I'll do the draft order random draw on my lunch break so people can make informed decisions on their keepers. I guess for now we'll stick to 10 players as the keeper system makes it hard to add anyone else without vastly changing the player values.

[Browning]

The Draw is in....

1) Gray Fox
2) Ian
3) Mahow
4) Thommo
5) Pleb
6) Fay
7) Baz
8) Me
9) Dan
10) Sam

[Ian]

Fuck's sake I hate being at an end of the round.

And being behind Fox too, I know that cunt's going to beat me to Tebow. :(

[Browning]

I've set the keeper deadline for tomorrow, but this isn't a hard deadline, it's just done to allow me to start putting them in ASAP. Anyone who can get them to me (via PM or via Yahoo) by tomorrow, great, but if you can't I'll accept them up until Sunday or so, to allow us a week to prepare to draft the following Sunday.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't see the option to set them myself on Yahoo so I'll officially post my keepers here.

Monty for an 8th
Jefferson for a 15th.

[Gray Fox]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0045/2322/9287/articles/the-office-michael-scott-main.jpg?v=1568675326

[Browning]

Yea yahoo is saying the deadline passed already which is fine, people can just let me know who they want.

[Browning]

Will confirm mine as well:

Jonathan Taylor- Round 4
Antonio Gibson- Round 9

[Ian]

Well there is sadly absolutely fuck all value in the back end of last year's draft for me as regards keepers.

Gimme Kelce in round 2 and..................... erm, let's say McLaurin in round 6. Not convinced about the second but I'll trust Fitzmagic to power McScorin' and therefore me to success. What could go wrong.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well there is sadly absolutely fuck all value in the back end of last year's draft for me as regards keepers.

Gimme Kelce in round 2 and..................... erm, let's say McLaurin in round 6. Not convinced about the second but I'll trust Fitzmagic to power McScorin' and therefore me to success. What could go wrong.

It's why I decided to take a punt on Jefferson in the 15th last year, I didn't expect him to go mental last year.

Also took Jeudy in the 12th as an option but his brick hands failed me.

[Ian]

I don't think either of my keepers are amazing value but I don't think I'll regret Kelce at the end of the second round and I like McLaurin so he should be solid at the end of the sixth as well.

[Gray Fox]

Kelce isn't too bad there. You would likely not get him at pick #19 and he was a sliver off winning the receiving yards crown last year. As a TE that's great going.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No chance he'd last to 19 with keepers.

[Browning]

As everyone else's keepers are public already I'll post in here the 2 sets I've had so far:

Baz: Cook and Waller
GF: Diggs and Younghoe

That brings us to 5/10 teams submitted.

[Gray Fox]

Beat me to it. But yeah, Diggs for a 7th and YOUNGHOE for an 18th for me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I had forgotten that I drafted Bronson Rechsteiner (as a joke) last year.

Son of Rick Steiner, Nephew of Scott who is now signed to the WWE on a developmental deal.

[Dan]

Guess I’ll take JK Dobbins & Davante Adams since I’m at the arse end of R1

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You motherfucker.

[Ian]

I had forgotten that I drafted Bronson Rechsteiner (as a joke) last year.

Son of Rick Steiner, Nephew of Scott who is now signed to the WWE on a developmental deal.

I'd put him as a Keeper just to be on the safe side.

[Gray Fox]

Is he a QB? Because if so he could be Big Poppa Fake Pump.

[Browning]

Thommo is keeping only Calvin Ridley, unless he lets me know otherwise before I get the other 3.

Only Pleb and the 2 non-TTHers to go now...

[Browning]

Keepers are all locked in and added to the draft.

Draft set for this Sunday at 9pm.

[Baz]

I already hate my team. I’ve prioritised winning over getting players I like. I feel like I’ve let Pleb down.

I’ve heard anecdotally that Yahoo got rid of chat during drafts. I presume this is just for mocks?

[Browning]

It’s definitely there for real drafts, didn’t know it ever was for mocks.

[Ian]

If there's no chat I genuinely might just leave Yahoo to pick for me and to hell with the consequences.

EDIT: Never mind then.

[Baz]

Has everyone confirmed they can make the draft? Even having one “autodraft” team is enough to ruin the league.

[Gray Fox]

Don't worry Ian I can still take Tebow ahead of you and let you know about it.

[Ian]

:(

[Ian]

#2 pick in my draft tonight as well. And it's a bigger league. :moop:

[Ian]

QB: Allen, Tua
WR: Sutton, Jeudy, Gallup, Marquise Brown, Waddle
RB: Cook, Carson, Dillon, Mattison, Ronald Jones
TE: Goedert

A couple of picks I think I whiffed but I'm not unhappy with that. I did quite well if my list was any marker, though obviously that's only as useful as my baselining.

[Gray Fox]

I'm assuming you've gone Cook, Carson then Allen? It also seems to be from those picks to be a 12 team league.

[Ian]

Yes, and 14 team league.

It's also only just really dawned on me that I have two Broncos wideouts when we don't even know which so-so quarterback will be throwing to them but yolo.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah taking Allen in the 3rd there was the trade you made instead of a WR1 type. You could maybe have had Scary Terry, Lamb, Evans or Robinson there, but then obviously you're losing out on your QB.

The double Bronco WR situation isn't ideal, but I still think it's going to be Lock to start and he seemed to like Sutton before he died. It'll likely rest on what Waddle does. Brown is likely to get 3-4 weeks of scoring about 4 points and then 1 week where he gets 38.

[Gray Fox]

Broncos have named Teddy the starter. Bad luck Ian

[Ian]

It'll be fiiiiine.

[Baz]

What time's the draft tomorrow?

[Gray Fox]

9pm.

[Browning]

RIP Dan's keeper.

[Gray Fox]

It's okay, his knee only bent backwards a little bit.

[Ian]

What happened?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The fools decided to give him (and the starters) some game time in our final pre-season game.

He caught a screen pass and when tackled he hyperextended his left knee.

[Ian]

Who is the he? On my phone and asking here is easier than farting about checking.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

JK Dobbins.

[Dan]

Well, that's inconvenient :moop: Hopefully he's magically fine.

[Browning]

For the record, I am happy for Dan to cancel his keeper of Dobbins, but he wouldn't get a new keeper. This assumes Yahoo lets me do it, but yea, that's always been my stance, because I don't think teams should have to go into a draft with a wasted pick if something happens. With Dobbins, we don't know the extent yet, so given how fast RBs go, and the fact we have Mahow in the league, Dobbins in the 6th might still be worth it.

[Browning]

I've removed Dobbins from the keeper list, but he may be re-added up to 7:30 tonight. I don't want to make any changes after that as Yahoo tends to open the draft at 8:30.

[Browning]

Draft opens in about 40 minutes and kicks off in 1 Hour 10 minutes. JK Dobbins is officially removed so Dan only has the 1 keeper.

[Ian]

I'll be there. Probably trying to keep up with my sheet and eat takeaway at the same time. The massive gap between picks might help on that front.

[Ian]

Ian
(Welby Wolves)
How's your MIND Thomma, eh?

Ian
(Welby Wolves)
EH?

Thommo's Titans left the draft

#rekt

[Pleb]

:D

[Gray Fox]

RIP Thomma

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://c.tenor.com/d3eHtOmgztMAAAAC/the-simpsons-he-is-already-dead.gif

[Ian]

Chat shit get banged.

[Browning]

Dan Daily Fantasy this year?

[Dan]

Yep, set up now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/dailyfantasy/league/67035/overview

[Baz]

Am I right in saying that there's no keepers next season and Lofty and my mate can join to make it 12?

No worries if not, obviously.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck them both.

Waddle for an 11th and either Rhamondre Stevenson for a 13th or Terrace Marshall for a 16th next year is going to be insane value for me.

[Baz]

Thomma’s on the ropes early.

[Ian]

This is an unfortunate week to be against Kyler Murray.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This is an unfortunate week to be against Kyler Murray.

It's quite fun seeing as the rest of my team is doing fuck all.

[Lofty]

I had him in my auto drafted league and won my head to head 111.46 to 111.18 :drool:

[Lofty]

Someone has offered me Deebo Samuel for Antonio Gibson, am I missing something?

[Browning]

WR is deep this year and Gibson looks to have an every down and pass catching role. Gibson by an absolute mile.

[Gray Fox]

It also helps if you’re in a PPR league. There are very few RBs who are every down style backs that also command a good target share.
He’s also with the coach who loved having a CMC style back so I wouldn’t put it past him to want to try to recreate that role.

[Lofty]

Cheers lads I'll keep him.

[Ian]

Didn't realise it was the Mind Games Bowl this week.

Or did I????

[Gray Fox]

He's been preparing for the Thommabowl for weeks. He still wont know what's hit him.

[thommo]

It's the first quarter of the 'Mind Games Bowl' and I'm throwing the towel in. I'd be telling my QB to take a knee for 45 mins if I was on the sidelines. It's over.

[Ian]

:drool:

Browning can we actually apply that to the result when my team inevitably flub this?

[Gray Fox]

Petition to have Thommo officially become Thomma on the board if he loses?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Aye.

[Ian]

Well he's currently projected to win. Sadly he has already forfeited. What a shame.

[Ian]

McScorin' piling the pressure on Thomma. :nodd:

[thommo]

More frustrated with Tua suddenly remembering how to be a QB!

[Ian]

He knows he might never get a chance to play in the Mind Games Bowl.

[Gray Fox]

The Mind Games/Thommabowl comes to a THRILLING CONCLUSION tonight.

21 points needed from DK Metcalf to save him.

[Ian]

Win or lose, I'm impressed with the performance of Kenyan Drake trying to catch my eye, clearly fuming at having been left out of the big game.

[Ian]

A valiant effort from Metcalf, but unfortunately he could not prevent Weblymania RUNNING WILD.

[thommo]

I blame Brandon Aiyuk (and Kyle Shanahan).

[Ian]

Yeah we both had some dead weight in the flex positions and players on the bench who overperformed and could have either got you the win if they were playing or made me a bit less nervous. :D

[Browning]

All part of the plan. Keep it close for maximum mind games.

[thommo]

I was really hoping to win it after my early forfeit for maximum mind games. I doubt I'm making the playoffs so I'm afraid that'll probably be it for the Mind Games Bowl this year. :(

[Ian]

Mind Games Bowl for the Consolation Playoffs. :drool:

[Ian]

Another week, another player on IR. Both of my teams have been riddled with it this year.

[Gray Fox]

Long live The King.

[Ian]

To be honest I think with the MGB secured for another year they're all just wanting the rest of the season off.

Fuckers.

[Lofty]

https://i.ibb.co/j8MLtLv/Screenshot-20211108-092721-NFL-Fantasy.jpg

My opponent was suitably irked.

[Ian]

Revenge on Pleb after I was projected to beat him handily last week and didn't, the legend that is Garrett Gilbert getting McScorin' two whole catches to get me over the line.

RUNNING WILD.

https://c.tenor.com/5a7Bj_Z9hVMAAAAC/hulk-hogan-listening.gif

[Gray Fox]

I wasn't strong enough to stop Welbymania RUNNING WILD.

[Ian]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DemandingExcitableAmericanquarterhorse-max-1mb.gif

Is this my first TTH final? Can't work out how to check on the app. I think it might be... And I'm definitely not winning.

[Browning]

All 3 of my teams absolutely smashed it last night and made 3 finals out of the 3 Semis I was in. Unfortunately, I was already eliminated from 2 of my 5 leagues (although I did win a 3rd place match in 1 of those).

All 3 finals look close though, Higgins won't put up nearly 50 points to make them routine again. I feel like all my good luck was used up.

And yes, this would appear to be your first final.

[Gray Fox]

Absolutely mind games'd Thomma into a last place finish and getting on to the final himself. What a season.

[Ian]

I've checked now I'm home and my highest place finish is third a decade ago.

*crumbles into dust*


Absolutely mind games'd Thomma into a last place finish and getting on to the final himself. What a season.

:cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was all over for him when you dubbed him "Thomma", he just couldn't cope with it.

[Ian]

https://i.gifer.com/TVOR.gif

It was going well for the first hour or so, then they all retreated back to the locker room and started sending Thomma abusive DMs.

[thommo]

I'm outscoring you this week, and in my mind, that's the real final.

:rave:

[Ian]

You're doing great. I'm proud of you.

[Browning]

Now that my 3 finals are over.... what a season that was!

TTH Standard was probably the final I was most confident in of the 3, but was also the one that started absolutely horrifically. I think most people said from the draft my team would be tough to stop with Taylor and Gibson as the keepers and Saquon added to the mix.... but both the season and the final started so bad. Many of my players under performed in the final, but I think it really came down to the waivers last week. Me, Ian and GF both went in for Ronald Jones and Amon-Ra.... and me getting Amon-Ra and missing Jones seemingly dictated the final. What a guy. If that goes the other way or GF had a higher priority, either of them could have won it. It's just nice that we were the 3 best teams over the year too, rather than someone scoring insanely and not even competing, as often happens.

Amon-Ra also played a huge part in the Super Flex final. That was the one I thought I might lose, but it obviously helped that my opponent didn't update his line up. I was afraid if he added Ronald Jones, ODB, Gesicki and the Pats DST off his bench I'd be in trouble before the game started. When he didn't start any of them, and left 2 holes in his line up, I was confident, but in the end I don't think the holes mattered as we won by just shy of 40 points and had he started his best 2 pre-game options (RoJo and Gesicki) they wouldn't have gotten close. Even adding ODB and the Pats wouldn't make up the gap, so while it sucks to go up against an incomplete team, I'm certain the better team won. It's nice to get this after losing the final last year because Stafford got injured on the first drive.... although he didn't exactly help me much in this final either.

The Standard Dynasty final.... I was 50/50 on before it started. Zach won it 2 years ago and I won it last year so it was a big match on paper and we were also the 2 top scorers and 2 top seeds. That I did all that without Derrick Henry for half the year and without MT all year was unexpected. I added the Chicago DST with no plans to start them just so he couldn't get them.... and then flipped on the decision and netted an extra 15 points as a result which is nice. AB and Higgins did their best to let me down in multiple finals, but it wasn't to be. Thank you Nick Chubb for being a sack of shit, I guess. It should be stated that Dan really should have won though. He lost to me in the Semis by 5 points after leaving injured Conner in his side.... and then outscored me in the final week by 40 points. That said, he was only in the Semi Final to begin with thanks to luckily having the defense who faced Ian Book who weren't even considered a good option at the start of that game week before Hill went down so.... fuck him!

Great year all round for my teams really as I won the 2 leagues that mean most to me out of the 5 I play in. Shame the other 2 didn't work out when I had pretty strong teams in my opinion, but you can't win them all.

I really believed in Amon-Ra in pre-season which is why I drafted him in Super Flex and wanted to draft him in the other dynasty but he got snapped up a few picks before me. It's nice to see him pay off when it mattered. :hail:

I fully expect my Dynasty team to struggle next year, despite the back to back championships. They're just getting old and another 12th pick isn't going to help me much. if Henry comes back at an elite level, we might be alright, I guess.

For Standard... we're changing the keeper rules to I can keep Taylor again, right? Right????

[Ian]

That final kinda fit my team's season really. Third highest scoring team in the league but kept hitting other teams on some of their best weeks and my own players shitting the bed. Very boom-bust.

And I was seriously struggling for depth with all the injuries but there we are. Second isn't bad.

[Browning]

I focus on the Dynasty leagues while the games are going on, but when I checked TTH after an hour or so I was ready to concede it. I'm not even sure what changed other than ARSB going mental, but yea, it seemed like you had it well in hand. In general, across all my leagues, this was a tough, tough season to adapt to. In all honesty I probably won the 2 dynasty leagues based more on my depth than anything. If this is the standard for 17 week seasons then the game has changed.... injuries are going to dictate things more than ever before.

[Ian]

I think it's just that a few of my players got off to hot starts and then basically stopped.

Gallup getting a TD and injuring himself out of the game early was the proper chef's kiss cherry on top.

[Browning]

Oh and of course the most important part was DT getting a ring on my bench.

I was hoping the coach would change his decision and play him..... but alas it wasn't to be.

[Gray Fox]

I had St. Brown as my top priority for the week so had I managed to grab him I'd have won the semi final and then final, but that's all ifs and buts.

Kupp and Diggs was a great WR combo to have throughout. I think I also did well to cope with losing CMC and Carson pretty early on. Unfortunately when Conner went down and Javonte Williams started getting stuffed, it was a bridge too far.

Pretty happy with the season. I pretty much did everything I could do, but was a little unlucky and also you pair played it better over the play-off weeks.

[Browning]

Time to get this up and running again, I guess.

I'm still not sure of the logistics of expanding the number of teams. I guess the easiest way if we really wanted to go from 10-12 would be to not do keepers this year and start fresh. Alternatively I guess we could just have the 2 new teams not have keepers and be as a disadvantage in year 1, but I'm not sure how I feel about that. The best way is just to stick with 10... but yea, if there's still interest from new players we can discuss it.

Season is sneaking up on us so we probably need to get a Draft Order/Keeper Deadline set if we are using keepers this year. I assume everyone is playing again Ian Baz

[Baz]

I’ll play again.

If we need another play for the 12th team (Lofty is 11 right?) I’ve someone ready and able.

[Ian]

Yeah I'll be in.

[Browning]

Is Lofty still keen? I'd like to be able to include him if he is, but it comes down to what the majority want to do I guess. And also whether the 2 newcomers would be happy playing without keepers for the first season, or if we all just want to start fresh.

[Lofty]

I will play if it doesnt fuck up the league structure.

[Pleb]

:cool:

[Browning]

We shall extend to 12 and start over I think. We will then go back to 2 keepers per team from next year.

[Browning]

Provisionally put the draft in for the 3rd at 9pm. Open to moving it if we have objections.

[Browning]

Already had a request to move it to the Friday (2nd). Any objections?

[Baz]

Fine by me.

[Ian]

Good for me, I think.

[Lofty]

Fine by me.

[Browning]

Finished my first draft of the year. Only an 8 team (2 QB) league so everyone is kind of stacked, but not unhappy with how it turned out:

Starters:
QB- Mahomes, R.Wilson
WR: Jefferson, Cooks, Metcalf
RB: Ekeler, Kamara
TE: Pitts
Flex: Mooney, Dobbins

Bench: Dak, Dillon, E.Moore, Winston, D.Smith, CEH, Meyers, H.Henry, S.Moore, K.Walker

Kickers: Succop, Lutz (We start 2.... for... reasons. But I neglected them as late as possible).
DST: Indy
IDP: J.Brooks, D.James (We need to start 3 so I'll have to pick up a DL player at some point).

I was picking at 7 and the guy at 8 didn't show up so I was able to predict his picks with reasonable accuracy. Best one was when the only hole in his line up was QB so he was clearly going QB/QB so I took Dak before him even though I didn't need Dak at that point. Fuck him. :D

Overall WRs could be better, but I sacrificed those to load up with studs elsewhere. Ekeler was my keeper in Round 3 which helped.

[Baz]

Big day tomorrow. Has the draft order been decided?

[Pleb]

Hopefully Lofty hasn't forgotton about this :sherlock:

[Browning]

Lofty 6 minutes until the draft.

[Ian]

Lofty. :nono:

[Pleb]

Never fear he'll win the whole thing now.

[Ian]

If he survives Week 1 against the Welby Wolves, that is.

[Ian]

All my Thomma mindgames in that draft really paid off. I got a C+ for my Yahoo draft grade and you, Thommo, you IDIOT, got a frankly heinous C. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

closedamplehammerheadbird

What a heel turn, Thomma never saw it coming.

[Lofty]

Sorry lads, Yahoo app was being a pain and then I forgot. I will be active going forward.

[Browning]

Started up a daily league if anyone fancies it, Dan usually does one but we only get a few people each year, worth a try to get it going again though:

https://sports.yahoo.com/dailyfantasy/contest/11250311
Baz Ian Lofty

[Browning]

Had my final draft of the year tonight (Yea.... after the season started.... I complained about that but oh well, seemingly it just gives everyone a bye this week). Another 2 QB, 8 team league... but I'm stunned how strong my team is (I had the number 1 pick):

QB: Allen (1), Herbert (2)
RB: Swift (3), Zeke (5)
WR: Diontae (6), Sutton (7), Cooks (10)
TE: Andrews (4)
Flex: Conner (8), Montgomery (11)

Bench:
Lance (9), Hollywood (12), Mooney (13)... and then in order Winston, Patterson, Olave, Hines, Burks, H.Henry, McKissic

With the Saints DST and Goggles rounding off the draft.

Some of those picks were absolutely mental. I assumed I'd have to play week 1 but still couldn't talk myself out of Josh Allen so that's why I took Lance so early. Herbert falling all the way to pick 16 was fucking insane, he should have gone easily in the first round. Another one I couldn't believe was me getting Conner 31 picks after I took Zeke when I had basically flipped a coin between them. When I drafted Lance I really wanted to draft Cooks... and yet Cooks fell all the way through and back to me.

Yes, everyone is stacked in 8 team leagues, and yes I don't have an alpha WR1... but yea... this feels ridiculously strong.

[Ian]

Welbymania running wild all over the new boy. :cool:

[Lofty]

:nono:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I also SMASHED my new mortal enemy in Baz's mate.

Fuck the newbies.

[Baz]

I also SMASHED my new mortal enemy in Baz's mate.

Fuck the newbies.https://i.imgur.com/5R7vNP3_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

:rosebud:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's what he gets for taking Bateman just before me.

[thommo]

With Lance out, I'm going to struggle to break 75 points here. :moop:

Absolute shocker of a week.

[Baz]

Unlucky. :harold:

[Dan]

I have Tua (50pts) & Drake London (20pts) on my bench :(

[Ian]

I'm gonna need some heroics from Josh Allen methinks.

[Ian]

Got what I wanted from Allen but forgot I was against Diggs. :rosebud:

[Ben]

Week 2 made it consecutive 150+ point weeks for me. The cunt I was head to head with this week netted 219 points, and that's after losing by less than 1 point last week. Seething doesn't cover it.

[Ian]

Another glorious win for the Wolves despite me apparently accidentally benching Patterson and leaving a shitload of points on my bench for fucking Renfrow.

Thomma up next. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Mindgames Bowl :cool:

He's feeling pretty tender after I stomped him this week too.

[thommo]

It's already over. Half my team crocked. QB made of breadsticks. I'm surprised I scored as many points as I did against mahow's ratbirds.

[Ian]

There's a team name for you for next season, Mahow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's in for this season too.

[Ian]

It's in for this season too.

:D

Excellent work.

[Gray Fox]

Hurricane Ian is rolling into town.

[Ian]

I may have given Thommo too much encouragement during the draft.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He may win the game but you've won the MINDGAMES.

He's even thinking of taking out his DST because he's scared they might score negative points, you're in his head rent free.

[thommo]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/26xBsTS9WJ7THk4mI/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47prm7dnq8f4xupptiedhnc8thyiqz 7e56m5wuyjj5&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[Ian]

Proud of you, big man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And just like that Ian steals back the crown.

Masterful showing.

[thommo]

Awful lot of brown nosing, even by your standards.

[Ian]

Classic ratbird move.

Also I spotted that Patterson is also fucked so my RB pool.is, y'know, knackered, so looking forward to that.

[Ian]

Absolutely obliterated Pleb, the poor sap. You'll see few beatings more one sided than that one.

[thommo]

All hail Mike Boone and his solitary rushing yard.

[Ian]

Worst thing is thanks to IR, other injuries and byes he was genuinely the best option in my squad this week. :D

[Baz]

This season is a bit exciting isn't it. :eek:

[thommo]

It's got to be the closest we've had since I joined 5 years ago. 2 games to go before the playoffs and everybody could either make it or miss out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

On top of the mountain looking down at all the plebs :cool:

Fuck you all.

[Gray Fox]

Live shots of Mahow and his team:

https://i.gyazo.com/d51756a1c24ddc8289832f9790e28f42.jpg

[Ian]

I don't really understand why everybody didn't simply beat him, like I did.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Live shots of Mahow and his team:

https://i.gyazo.com/d51756a1c24ddc8289832f9790e28f42.jpg

That ended well for them, right?

[Baz]

I don’t understand how I lost this week. Was 99% chance at like 1am.

[Ben]

I don’t understand how I lost this week. Was 99% chance at like 1am.

I’m bottom of a league of six with one win but I’m the second top points scorer. The schedule has not been kind.

[Lofty]

Were you by any chance up against that Raiders WR who blew up for 50 points?

[Ben]

Nah, but they had Sanders and Allen which was over 60 combined alone.

[Gray Fox]

That ended well for them, right?

Yes. As we know they continued to shut down Mahomes and Hill and all went home happy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a lovely happy ending.

[Gray Fox]

https://i.gyazo.com/c1d210910fec6ae977e793f059d05dd2.png

I don't recall a season with as much potential madness as this final day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Really cool for Loomar to die almost instantly and for Sam to go over his original projection by 50 points.

[Ian]

I won in my other league despite Jackson being deaded thanks to nearly 20 points from Badgely. I won by a point too. I'd be fucking livid if I lost by a point and the opposing kicker got good WR/ RB numbers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I did also win another league despite Jackson and I was only like 19 points away in the third league I have Jackson.

Cleveland DST put in quite a bit of work for me.

[Baz]

Bloody auto draft winning the league. :rolleyes:

[Browning]

No one wins the league today. The play offs are often cruel on the best team.

[Gray Fox]

Last years title was literally decided on semi-final weeks waivers. 3 of the 4 teams left went in for Amon-Ra St. Brown. Whichever team would have played him would have won the whole thing.

[Baz]

No one wins the league today. The play offs are often cruel on the best team.

*League Leaders Shield

[Ian]

What's the tie-break for the regular season standings? Looks like points scored and if I'm right I think if Baz had edged the win over me rather than vice versa I'd have been out of the playoffs, finishing 7th behind my good friend Thommo.

[Browning]

Yea it’s points scored.

[Gray Fox]

Two wins the difference between second and dead last in a 12 team league is some going. Less than a point the other way in our matchup the other week and it's Browning in my place.

Shoutout to the team in the second Fleaflicker league who beat Dan by less than a point last week, to then again hold on and win by less than a point this week to knock Dan out of the play offs.

A special shoutout to my TTH Dynasty team who has had the wooden spoon and therefore first pick in the draft sewn up for what seems like several weeks now. Then has decided with the help of Mike Williams and especially Jerrick McKinnon in the final week, to turn up and actually win for once, therefore handing Pleb the first pick.

[Ian]

Josh Allen. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Josh managing to throw 4 TDs with none going to a WR has me all but finished off.

The snowball business was lol though.

[Lofty]

I fear I've accidentally handed Mahow the win being distracted by my other league where I am in to win a few hundred quid, somehow my flex spot was a TE who managed a single point :moop:

[Ian]

I am not entirely unhappy with my semi final finish given the 319 players I've had go on IR or be injured out of games at Too Late O'clock this year.

[Lofty]

Tell me about it, Derrick Henry IR at this stage in the money league for me, turned a projected romp home into a knife edge game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was winning it anyway, you just made it more of a blowout.

[Lofty]

We'll see.

[Lofty]

My opposite number in the cash league's QB is now doubtful, I should be sporting and let him know if he doesn't change it, right?

[Ian]

Hm. Suppose it depends whether you'd think him a prick if he didn't tell you if the roles were reversed. :D

[Gray Fox]

I'd argue if he's in the Championship game of a league with money on it then it's tough titties if he doesn't notice.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Somehow missed that Deandre Hopkins was out when I checked my teams at quarter to 6.

Lofty back into it.

[Baz]

Congrats Mahow. Even with the postponed game uncertainty, you’ve won.

And I’ve smashed Ian to pieces. So much so I’m declaring myself as the runner-up.

[Gray Fox]

Lofty was clearly mounting a comeback. I'd say it needs a rematch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Battered the giant even though I had an inactive WR.

I am MASSIVE.

[Baz]

What’s happening Browning?

[Browning]

Planning to go ahead and return to the 2 keepers per team format.

Keepers will cost whatever round pick you picked them in last year. Anyone who wasn't drafted won't be eligible for a keeper. Keepers can only be kept for 1 year.

I forget which one was your mate, Baz. Andy I think? Are you both planning to return?

Same for Ian and Lofty

First game is September 8th and I don't have any other drafts to get in the way besides one on August 27th, so the weekend of 5th/6th September would appear to be the ideal draft time, but open to suggestions if that doesn't work for all.

[Baz]

Yes! Andy texted me today asking what was happening, so count us both in.

Do you mean 2nd/3rd September? If so, suits me.

[Browning]

Yep, my calendar must have switched back to August while I was writing that. 2nd/3rd September would be best, unless there's any objections.

Yahoo necessitates we determine the draft order before it allows me to set keepers so I've always had to do that using a random number generator. I'll get to that once I know everyone is returning as knowing where you are drafting can help determine which keepers are worth it/not worth it.

[Ian]

I'll be in.

I think I mentioned this last year but I'll gloat the idea now it's pertinent: smaller squads?

Our draft takes about a fortnight to complete if everybody's there and with every player anybody's heard of gone you're basically boned if you need to try and pick up a player further into the season.

I will, as always, go with the flow but I really wouldn't be opposed to smaller squads. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?

[Browning]

It’s definitely something that wasn’t properly accounted for when we expanded from 10 to 12 teams.

That said the benches are already pretty shallow with only 7 spots for 11 starting positions. We could probably drop 1 flex and/or 1 WR spot and get away with it if the majority wanted to.

[Lofty]

I'm in.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I quite like the BLOATED squads due to the 2 keepers. I like taking punts on rookies late like Pacheco in round 10 and Brian Robinson in the 14th last year.

If everyone else wants to trim it down though I'll live with it.

[Baz]

Best part about the game is the draft. Let’s have more players if anything!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

"The BANTZ" when someone picks a player far too early :drool:

The Draft is also the great re-awakening of the glorious Ian v Thomma rivalry.

[Browning]

The randomiser has spoken:

1) Ian
2) Lofty
3) Pleb
4) Pain Don't Hurts (not on TTH)
5) Gray Fox
6) Digg's In Blankets (not on TTH)
7) Thommo
8) Baz
9) Andy (not on TTH)
10) Mahow
11) Me
12) Dan

Not ideal as it's minimal value out of (presumably) keeping Waddle in round 4 but it is what it is.

[Ian]

For fucks sake.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wanted a mid-draft pick ffs.

[Baz]

Is it possible to see last years draft results (for keepers) on the phone app? I feel like I ask this every year.

[Browning]

Not on the app, no. You can on a phone browser though.

[Browning]

I'm actually away now on the weekend I mentioned so I think ideally the draft would be on the 26th/27th. I do have another draft on the 27th but it starts at 11:45pm so I can probably fit both in, or the 26th would work fine.

With that in mind I'll set the keeper deadline for the 17th to give everyone 2 weeks and then we can (hopefully) figure out a draft day/time that suits everyone.

[Baz]

I can’t do the 27th cos I’m at the wrestling.

[Browning]

We will go with the 26th for now and see if we have any objections. Time is also negotiable.

[Baz]

We will go with the 26th for now and see if we have any objections. Time is also negotiable.

I can confirm that Andy is UNAVAILABLE but the show must go on.

[Baz]

I can confirm that Andy is UNAVAILABLE but the show must go on.

“I’m working on swapping it. It’s our anniversary so wish me luck :lol: “

[Baz]

“I’m working on swapping it. It’s our anniversary so wish me luck :lol: “

“I’ve found a new babysitter and promised a nicer anniversary meal so I’m now back in”

Please don’t change it from the 26th :D

[Ben]

Fair play that’s good commitment.

[thommo]

I'm out on the 26th, last day of the cricket season.

Suppose I could try and drunk draft. Or leave it to the autodraft, didn't seem to hurt Lofty last year.

[Ian]

I may or may not be doing anything for the 26th as it's my birthday. Which I don't care about but no idea if I'm gonna get pestered into doing stuff.

But that's a maybe, so go for whatever date and if I'm absent then so be it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Thomma/Ian mindgames have started already.

[Browning]

Looks like it'll be moved anyway as we've got about 4 people who have raised concerns.

I'll propose the 25th as an alternative? I mean pretty much any day is fine with me outside of the 1st-3rd of September as I don't want to take my laptop on a flight and drafting on a phone is a pain in the arse (I mean I'll do it if it's the only way to make it work). Apologies to Andy, let's hope he's not too much in the dog house.

[Baz]

https://i.imgur.io/vrbV9Ir_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

:thbup:

[Pleb]

Incredible.

[Baz]

“Just before I get myself divorced is the draft night set yet?”

Are we set on Friday 25th?

[Browning]

I will give the rest of the day for anyone to raise any objections but so far we have had none so I think we are pretty set.

[Ian]

25th should be fine for me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm fine for the 25th but part of me does want to kick up a fuss to see how Andy's marriage plays out.

[Baz]

25th it is.

What time?

[Browning]

It's set at 8:30pm right now but open to changes.