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Giggles
25-07-2021, 05:49 PM
First of all this isn’t anything meant at removing Yev but his recent instability got me thinking about the current hierarchy here. I’ll also say I was one of the main advocates in maintaining the same admins in the move from the Dugout to here to keep things stable. That said, we have Henry who is God knows where, John who is likewise, and ItalAussie who only pops up to pretend to be Italian when the situation arises about twice a year. At this stage what exactly are they adding and what’s to stop any of them rocking up and kicking out half the users or closing the place? I’m not even advocating for adding any more admins, the ones that are here regularly do fine and it doesn’t really need it anyway, but those few surely need to be removed at this stage.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 05:50 PM
What on earth do you think I'm planning to do? :D

Giggles
25-07-2021, 05:51 PM
What on earth do you think I'm planning to do? :D

You? Nothing. That’s why I doubled down on making it clear it wasn’t about you in the post. You were merely the catalyst for the train of thought.

Baz
25-07-2021, 05:52 PM
Who else is admin aside from the one Giggles mentioned?

Kiko, SvN & phonics?

niko_cee
25-07-2021, 05:52 PM
How do you even know who the admins are? I thought it was just Phonics and SVN. Never knew Yev had the keys to the gaff as well, if he does.

Shindig
25-07-2021, 05:52 PM
You have a point but is there much bother to moderate? TTH is a closed shop unless Baz starts handing the cards out again.

Baz
25-07-2021, 05:52 PM
You have a point but is there much bother to moderate? TTH is a closed shop unless Baz starts handing the cards out again.

I found my stickers the other day.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 05:53 PM
You have a point but is there much bother to moderate? TTH is a closed shop unless Baz starts handing the cards out again.

There isn’t at all, that’s why I’m saying not to add more. I only mean if any of those 3 rock back up and want to fuck with things that it’s better to remove them.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 05:55 PM
Who else is admin aside from the one Giggles mentioned?

Kiko, SvN & phonics?

I think so. It’s Quick Links > View Site Leaders.

randomlegend
25-07-2021, 05:56 PM
Is there actually anyone left who gives out points? Since the move here it was basically just John, because he's a twat.

Edit: actually are points even still a thing?

Offshore Toon
25-07-2021, 05:56 PM
I don't think any of them are the sort of characters we need to worry about. In fact, I'd quite enjoy Ital booting everyone out and spamming the board with porn.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 05:56 PM
At least have the balls to admit what prompted this.

Look, from my side, and to be clear, I just want a thread where I can talk about and hopefully write some of a project I've been thinking about for 20 years. The morons of the board and jealous types refused to allow that so I've ben forced think about other options the board may allow - I don't mean other staff, I mean functionality. We have some great members on here who have already contributed to help me and I'm sure could do a load more, I'd just rather speak to them without the thread being derailed every 5 posts by the admittedly small, but disappointingly loud, moron contingent.

You don't need to worry about me or anyone else going on a banning spree.

Baz
25-07-2021, 06:00 PM
I understand the want to avoid the dickheads but a thread would be interesting as a kind of Life story, where fans of the show can come and see how it all came to fruition.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 06:01 PM
At least have the balls to admit what prompted this.

Look, from my side, and to be clear, I just want a thread where I can talk about and hopefully write some of a project I've been thinking about for 20 years. The morons of the board and jealous types refused to allow that so I've ben forced think about other options the board may allow - I don't mean other staff, I mean functionality. We have some great members on here who have already contributed to help me and I'm sure could do a load more, I'd just rather speak to them without the thread being derailed every 5 posts by the admittedly small, but disappointingly loud, moron contingent.

You don't need to worry about me or anyone else going on a banning spree.

What are you on about? I already said what prompted this, you did. A couple of posts of yours made me realise you were a moderator and it made me think about who else is.

Again, I repeat: This isn’t about you, this is about the three I mentioned in the opening post that don’t post here any more.

Shindig
25-07-2021, 06:03 PM
I understand the want to avoid the dickheads but a thread would be interesting as a kind of Life story, where fans of the show can come and see how it all came to fruition.

We're all dickheads. Dickheads make the world go round. And provide material.

Kikó
25-07-2021, 06:07 PM
Yev isn't a moderator? Edit looks like he is..

I'm ready to delete everything on signal.

I can barely do anything. There's definitely more than one kind of admin.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:08 PM
What are you on about? I already said what prompted this, you did. A couple of posts of yours made me realise you were a moderator and it made me think about who else is.

Again, I repeat: This isn’t about you, this is about the three I mentioned in the opening post that don’t post here any more.

So let me get this right...

You saw me close a thread after moron city took over.
You saw me ask Phonics to meet me in the office.
You took my joke response (about me going down the same road with you as I have Bamster ) to your utterly needless comment as a genuine threat.
????
You're worried about John literally rising from the dead to ban you

And I'm the one who's mentally ill...?

Boydy
25-07-2021, 06:10 PM
"Literally" rising from the dead?

Giggles
25-07-2021, 06:12 PM
So let me get this right...

You saw me close a thread after moron city took over.
You saw me ask Phonics to meet me in the office.
You took my joke response (about me going down the same road with you as I have Bamster ) to your utterly needless comment as a genuine threat.
????
You're worried about John literally rising from the dead to ban you

And I'm the one who's mentally ill...?

John isn’t dead. Someone posted recently enough that he wasn’t.

As for the rest of it, I don’t think there’s much I can say that’ll calm you down but as I’ve said, yes you having powers here (like you mentioned above apart from the Bamster thing, though you’re were also threatening cards) made me question who else had powers here. I can’t make it any more simple.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:13 PM
We're all dickheads. Dickheads make the world go round. And provide material.

If you did I'd take that, but you don't, you're a horrendous poster that offers nothing beyond jealous snipes and gas-lighting.

If you think I've got a single piece of material from you in the last 20 years that would go anywhere near what I'm planning then you're sadly mistaken and you should disabuse yourself of that notion right now. The sea of shit from you has been so strong since that the only decent thing you did that I can still remember has already been used by Stuart Lee.

Spammer
25-07-2021, 06:14 PM
Yes has been unstable for years. We need to cleanse the whole place of all these cunts and start again.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 06:14 PM
Yev isn't a moderator? Edit looks like he is..

I'm ready to delete everything on signal.

I can barely do anything. There's definitely more than one kind of admin.

Again, it isn’t about Yev. Do I need to put it in all caps?

Lewis
25-07-2021, 06:14 PM
lol at closing the thread and 'moron city'.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:15 PM
Again, I repeat: This isn’t about you

Great. If you could live by that in other threads it would be appreciated.

Lewis
25-07-2021, 06:15 PM
Gutted we're not getting that WDYTOE now.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:16 PM
Yes has been unstable for years. We need to cleanse the whole place of all these cunts and start again.

If 'these cunts' as you put it, were cleansed, there is no board. It's dead.

Spammer
25-07-2021, 06:18 PM
Shitposting aside, what's wrong with a 'Writing Thread', where we all post shit we've been working on?

I like to write sometimes, Yev and Lofty do, DS...probably a bunch of others. It's niche but no less than WWE

Baz
25-07-2021, 06:18 PM
Gutted we're not getting that WDYTOE now.

Aye, would have been a belter. Would have been better before I did his video though, for his real opinion.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 06:23 PM
Anyway: Henry, ItalAussie, John - is there any reason for them to still have moderator or similar privileges here when they don’t post any more?

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:24 PM
Aye, would have been a belter. Would have been better before I did his video though, for his real opinion.

I did yours days ago Baz. It hasn't changed.

Baz - I love Baz. Perhaps a bit like one would love a retarded nephew, but he constantly makes me smile and IT IS love nonetheless. Whether it's taking Henry on (and let's be fair winning) with Garden Soccer, his endless affiliate links, being a mental health first aider (but realising domestic abuse champion was a step too far) or posting a porn star garggling fake cum to Three Lions, there's always something utterly ludicrous in his posts that makes me smile. He probably should have been a redcoat he'd have done very well (the Butlins variety not the variety fighting the Americans, he'd have been appalling at that).

Lewis
25-07-2021, 06:25 PM
Aye, would have been a belter. Would have been better before I did his video though, for his real opinion.

Choosing a different song to accompany every entry probably got a bit tedious.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:29 PM
Choosing a different song to accompany every entry probably got a bit tedious.

:D See, that is funny.

I can take jibes no problem, what I can't be fucked with is Shindig and his, well, fuck knows what actually, and a load of other shit that is neither funny, constructively critical or helpful and just won't stop.

YEV'S ADMITTED HE WOZ TEH MENTAHL

YEV'S SAID HE'S BETTA BUT WE KNOWZ HES STILL THE MENTAL

I mean, come on.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:32 PM
Shitposting aside, what's wrong with a 'Writing Thread', where we all post shit we've been working on?

I like to write sometimes, Yev and Lofty do, DS...probably a bunch of others. It's niche but no less than WWE

It's a great idea, but (and DS can correct me if I'm wrong) they always get taken over by utter idiots who can't cope with people doing something they don't like or get. I should have known better really as a result.

Dquincy
25-07-2021, 06:32 PM
I'm confident I speak on behalf of us of all in saying there is a mod who is a mentalist and we don't feel safe around him.

It would be unfair to name this person, so for the sake of privacy let's just call him... Harv.

Pen
25-07-2021, 06:33 PM
What happened here? Just caught up with the other thread and it seems the Broom leaved you and you’ve gone off the deep end.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:34 PM
I'm confident I speak on behalf of us of all in saying there is a mod who is a mentalist and we don't feel safe around him.

It would be unfair to name this person, so for the sake of privacy let's just call him... Harv.

Just so bad. Like one of the worst posts I've ever read. You've literally copied mine above (which was shit anyway) and somehow made it worse.

What are you doing?

Kikó
25-07-2021, 06:36 PM
Again, it isn’t about Yev. Do I need to put it in all caps?

No I know that, I genuinely didn't know he was a mod or admin.

But I think SvN (and maybe phonics) has real admin rights and we can basically do some moddy type stuff. I really doubt ital, John (rip) or Henry would come back to delete everything but I get it, you want to be an Adam.

7om
25-07-2021, 06:36 PM
Wait, so how do we keep up with the project now that thread is closed? I genuinely feel intrigued after the first few scenes.

Kikó
25-07-2021, 06:37 PM
I'm confident I speak on behalf of us of all in saying there is a mod who is a mentalist and we don't feel safe around him.

It would be unfair to name this person, so for the sake of privacy let's just call him... Harv.

:rolleyes:

Dquincy
25-07-2021, 06:37 PM
Haha. :D Love it.

Are you going to apologise for the 'content' you've been posting over the last 24 hours? I think that's what Giggs is wanting. Unless I've completely misread the situation.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:38 PM
Wait, so how do we keep up with the project now that thread is closed? I genuinely feel intrigued after the first few scenes.

I don't know. I was going to ask Phonics if there was a way I could set up an invite-only sub-forum to keep the shit out, but they're not going to stop are they, so really not sure I can be arsed now.

I'll still do it (at least as far as I can take it), but at this stage, I can't see how that journey can be shared on here.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 06:38 PM
There's other places to put writing and speak with like minded people. TTH isn't the whole, why do ya think I hardly post here anymore? You know this place and you know what will, and won't be worth the effort.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:40 PM
Haha. :D Love it.

Are you going to apologise for the 'content' you've been posting over the last 24 hours? I think that's what Giggs is wanting. Unless I've completely misread the situation.

You're a fucking idiot so of course you've mis-read the situation. But if you can find a post that warrants an apology of course I will. You can't and you won't, but by all means try.

Dquincy
25-07-2021, 06:44 PM
https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/partridgecloud/S02E01/S02E01-rfEpXDOw-subtitled.jpg

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:45 PM
There's other places to put writing and speak with like minded people. TTH isn't the whole, why do ya think I hardly post here anymore? You know this place and you know what will, and won't be worth the effort.

I like TTH though and I think we have some brilliant members who could genuinely help as I absolutely trust their judgement. If I need to find another online home to do that I think it'd just be easier not to bother and do it all offline.

These are basically the options:

I re-open the thread, the shit will not stop and I give up (on here at least) eventually.
I re-open the thread and I take the option that Giggles mind was thinking that his lying mouth won't admit, ban everyone who I think has stepped out of line. I'm never going to do that as it's a shit approach and just creates more problems.
Do it all in a sub-forum. Don't think that'll really work as the idiots will just run wild out here.
Not bother at all.

Option 4 is looking the most attractive at the moment.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:46 PM
https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/partridgecloud/S02E01/S02E01-rfEpXDOw-subtitled.jpg

Are you now deliberately helping me to prove my point?

Luke Emia
25-07-2021, 06:46 PM
I can’t really be arsed to read the whole of this other thread people are going on about. Someone breakdown what the fuck has happened?

Spikey M
25-07-2021, 06:46 PM
All I can say for my part is I didn't intend any ill will, I was just checking in. If you're all good, then happy days.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:47 PM
Wait, so how do we keep up with the project now that thread is closed? I genuinely feel intrigued after the first few scenes.

Honestly, would you bother?

Shindig
25-07-2021, 06:48 PM
Yeah, I'm just keeping my mouth shut from now on.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 06:48 PM
Yev I don’t think you were going to ban anyone and I certainly don’t give a fuck about your book. Have at it and I’m sure nobody else will care either if you have a thread for it. Maybe change the title from something generic to Yevs thread and I don’t think you’ll have an issue at all.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:48 PM
All I can say for my part is I didn't intend any ill will, I was just checking in. If you're all good, then happy days.

I didn't think for one second you did. Unlike the Auts brigade who're incapable of comprehending anything, it's clear as day to see who is genuinely concerned and who is being a cunt. You did not fall into the latter camp.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:49 PM
Yev I don’t think you were going to ban anyone and I certainly don’t give a fuck about your book. Have at it and I’m sure nobody else will care either if you have a thread for it.

I'd love to believe that, but even if you mean it, the stockpile of Alan Partridge meme's waiting in the wings would suggest otherwise.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 06:51 PM
TTH isn't the place to get critical feedback on a script. How many scriptwriters do we have here? That's all I'm saying, you ain't gonna progress by getting advice from those who don't know the ins and outs, myself included.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 06:51 PM
I'd love to believe that, but even if you mean it, the stockpile of Alan Partridge meme's waiting in the wings would suggest otherwise.

If you think I have even one Alan Partridge (which I think is one of the unfunniest things to ever have existed) meme in waiting the you really don’t have any idea. Like I said, I don’t give enough of a fuck about it. I just hope you’re well and whatever you’re at goes well.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 06:51 PM
It'd like RL asking advice about someone with sepsis and Bam going 'lol cut his dick off haha'

niko_cee
25-07-2021, 06:51 PM
Just roll with the shit, is it really that bothersome? It's pretty much what this forum has always been, inane sniping and other low-level shithousery..

Kikó
25-07-2021, 06:53 PM
For what it's worth, the last twenty four hours have been dynamite. Bring back the thread!

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:53 PM
I can’t really be arsed to read the whole of this other thread people are going on about. Someone breakdown what the fuck has happened?

As is usually the case, not much really. I got brain fog twice over the last 3 months (caused principally by not sleeping properly for 15 months) and have now shaken it twice, but some people assume it's hilarious to run a narrative that claims I still have it. The latest reason hidden behind for doing so was because I pulled an all-nighter last night.

Spammer
25-07-2021, 06:55 PM
If 'these cunts' as you put it, were cleansed, there is no board. It's dead.

I've just read the other thread. I didn't know you actually had mental health stuff at some point. I was just being flippant, sorry.

It reads like you're getting a bit ahead of yourself but whatever, fucking go for it if it's something you want to do. You'll learn a lot from it regardless of what happens.

Lewis
25-07-2021, 06:56 PM
'...and, sorry, I know pitches are meant to be a lot more polished, but idiots kept posting breakdown memes at me so I had to just write it without any feedback.'
'And you want Netflix to give you com...'
'Complete control of the entire project yes.'

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:56 PM
If you think I have even one Alan Partridge (which I think is one of the unfunniest things to ever have existed) meme in waiting the you really don’t have any idea.

I was talking about Dquincy.


I just hope you’re well and whatever you’re at goes well.

Cheers. Albeit you'll forgive me for being suspicious that you've genuinely developed a conscience in the last 5 minutes.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:58 PM
'...and, sorry, I know pitches are meant to be a lot more polished, but idiots kept posting breakdown memes at me so I had to just write it without any feedback.'
'And you want Netflix to give you com...'
'Complete control of the entire project yes.'

See, stuff like this, it's just lazy. I've never once even said I want to go with Netflix.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 06:59 PM
TTH isn't the place to get critical feedback on a script. How many scriptwriters do we have here? That's all I'm saying, you ain't gonna progress by getting advice from those who don't know the ins and outs, myself included.

It's very unlikely, but then that was the initial point of the thread. I'm 41 now, so I'm also not going to get in with actual scriptwriters to the level I'd need to in a viable timeframe. Sometimes you just have to play the cards you're dealt.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 07:01 PM
I was talking about Dquincy.



Cheers. Albeit you'll forgive me for being suspicious that you've genuinely developed a conscience in the last 5 minutes.

Quincy or not, you quoted me though.
I don’t know if I have a conscience or not, I certainly don’t like to show it if I do but I always liked you and that’s going back many years. We’ve always had a few run ins buts whatever.

Lewis
25-07-2021, 07:01 PM
As for TTH not being the place, if you join some writers' forum you will get stuck in a mutual bullshit loop like when comedians all tell each other they're great when they aren't. You are much, much more likely to get told your stuff is good or shit here, which is ultimately what you need to know because the formalities of script-writing are just that.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:01 PM
And Luke, I should add that some people are genuinely concerned and they're not at all being a dick about that, but you can spot them a mile off and they're not who have brought any of this about.

Dquincy
25-07-2021, 07:02 PM
'...and, sorry, I know pitches are meant to be a lot more polished, but idiots kept posting breakdown memes at me so I had to just write it without any feedback.'
'And you want Netflix to give you com...'
'Complete control of the entire project yes.'
:lol: Genuine chuckle.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:03 PM
As for TTH not being the place, if you join some writers' forum you will get stuck in a mutual bullshit loop like when comedians all tell each other they're great when they aren't. You are much, much more likely to get told your stuff is good or shit here, which is ultimately what you need to know because the formalities of script-writing are just that.

100% agree. If I go to professionals I'll get hammered for form/structure (or whatever it's called) and I have neither the time or inclination to bother with any of that. I'd rather read Dquincy posts.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:08 PM
It's just dawned on me we have an ignore user function. Which I recall being said to be a bit irritating by those who used it back in the day, but maybe we have an option 5.

Spammer
25-07-2021, 07:09 PM
It's pretty much what this forum has always been, inane sniping and other low-level shithousery..

This, 100%.

I said Yevrah has been 'unstable for years' but I don't read enough on here to, in reality, have any opinion whatsoever on him or what his mental state is like. I was just saying shit to entertain myself and to see what the response would be. In honesty I don't know anything about him and confuse him with Jimmy (and GS when he was here) most of the time, not sure why.

People have said all kinds of shit to me on here, and I've learned to adapt and I guess just join in. I do think it's kinda part of the culture of the place, and it's why I've often been wary of saying anything that makes me feel remotely vulnerable because odds are someone will say something about it that could genuinely impact me irl. That said, it's quite a weird and interesting little place to be a part of once I've boundaried myself.

Shindig
25-07-2021, 07:10 PM
That was kind of the thing with the writing forums I joined. They're both defunct now but any criticism was met with disgust and anything I submitted was given the, "I see potential here. What if X was X?"

One of the worst things I ever read was a boring 90 page script where nothing went on. It was just students regurgitating Anchorman quotes and being sad Heath Ledger died.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 07:10 PM
You don't go to a writers forum. Just find somewhere that has people that have been published. I'm not a member of any writers forums, fuck that.

I got some incredible critique of the last thing I wrote that led me to almost rewrite the whole thing and it's a far better piece for it.

Fair fucks you're 41 though and don't want to put in a week or two effort to find said places/people.

On a personal note anything offered here as critique I'd generally lol out of town if I was to post work.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 07:11 PM
It’s just the length of time. We’ve known each other for years but don’t actually know each other at all.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 07:12 PM
100% agree. If I go to professionals I'll get hammered for form/structure (or whatever it's called) and I have neither the time or inclination to bother with any of that. I'd rather read Dquincy posts.

Mate you're not gonna get anywhere with that train of thought. You've literally just said you'll write off aspects of critique.

Dquincy
25-07-2021, 07:13 PM
If you did I'd take that, but you don't, you're a horrendous poster that offers nothing beyond jealous snipes and gas-lighting.

If you think I've got a single piece of material from you in the last 20 years that would go anywhere near what I'm planning then you're sadly mistaken and you should disabuse yourself of that notion right now. The sea of shit from you has been so strong since that the only decent thing you did that I can still remember has already been used by Stuart Lee.
The absolute unnecessary venom in this post.

I think an apology is needed to Shinners.

7om
25-07-2021, 07:15 PM
Honestly, would you bother?

I would. You have a passion for it. Fuck the haters and take this as far as you can.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:20 PM
Mate you're not gonna get anywhere with that train of thought. You've literally just said you'll write off aspects of critique.

If I did, I didn't mean to. I just don't want to be joining another forum and essentially starting from square one. I don't have the tools for this game, so I can either learn them before I start or learn on the job. The latter is a better option for me, I genuinely believe that, I could of course be wrong. And if I stick an actual trailer up on Youtube, let alone a pilot, I'm going to get critiqued to fuck. Which is fine and it'll be quicker.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:21 PM
This, 100%.

I said Yevrah has been 'unstable for years' but I don't read enough on here to, in reality, have any opinion whatsoever on him or what his mental state is like. I was just saying shit to entertain myself and to see what the response would be. In honesty I don't know anything about him and confuse him with Jimmy (and GS when he was here) most of the time, not sure why.

People have said all kinds of shit to me on here, and I've learned to adapt and I guess just join in. I do think it's kinda part of the culture of the place, and it's why I've often been wary of saying anything that makes me feel remotely vulnerable because odds are someone will say something about it that could genuinely impact me irl. That said, it's quite a weird and interesting little place to be a part of once I've boundaried myself.

Fair points Spammer and if I said I hadn't taken some of the stuff personally it'd be bullshit. However, the reality is that I'm more annoyed with myself for telling a significant number of people I was having problems, that I shouldn't have.

Spammer
25-07-2021, 07:28 PM
I don't see any issue with a generic writing thread where people can post stuff, so long as others are respectful of it. I don't see why they wouldn't be if there's a dedicated thread they can avoid. That other thread was a bit different in that it started out as one thing and then turned into something else.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 07:29 PM
Yev if it helps I've just come out the other side of a 20 year long struggle with depression and anxiety, alongside high intensity CBT and counselling which has dredged up memories I'd buried so deep that I almost lost a missus and almost chucked myself off a fucking bridge. I'm now unemployed due to work not being able to cater to the requirements I need right now to help me through it.

Just ignore the barbed comments, as hard as it may seem when you first open yourself up to a vulnerability. It helps in the long run to know you've done it. Giggles the empathy vacuum and quincy the absolute grade a spastic aside its been sound.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:30 PM
You don't go to a writers forum. Just find somewhere that has people that have been published. I'm not a member of any writers forums, fuck that.

I got some incredible critique of the last thing I wrote that led me to almost rewrite the whole thing and it's a far better piece for it.

This is probably going to come across as very arrogant, but I've no interest in re-writing the whole thing or even a significant portion of it. I've a story I want to tell that I'm happy to tweak, but no more than that as it'll no longer be the story I want to tell if I do.

I'm genuinely not interested in being a very good writer, I'd just like to get an idea off the ground. If the actual format of the writing is good enough to miss the bin then I'll take that bare minimum all day long. And if it isn't, well I can cross that bridge when I come to it, but preparing for the eventuality that it will be, when I've barely written any of it yet just seems an unnecessary step to take at this stage.


Fair fucks you're 41 though and don't want to put in a week or two effort to find said places/people.

Well given I'm prepared to put a couple of years of any free time I have into this, a week or two of that (if that's all it were, would be no problem), but it won't be, will it. It'll be a huge undertaking that'll send me down a rabbit hole that I could very well get away without going anywhere near.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 07:32 PM
You can re-write without changing any aspect of the story. Its about flow. I'll stop with the advice here as you have your way set and any offer besides the little comfort bubble of this won't really help. Godspeed mate.

Mellberg
25-07-2021, 07:32 PM
Calm the fuck down the lot of you.

Personally I don't give a fuck if Yev is currently mentally whatever or not. So long as he is/has working/worked toward a fix, which he categorically is/has, then fair play. Generally speaking, we're very good at supporting for about 5 mins, then being cunts about it for 5 days. Yev, if this is what you want then grab the bull by the horns, take it wherever it goes, and don't let either the success or failure define you.

As for the admins, didn't know who they were and that means we don't have a problem. It only really needs the background stuff to keep it online doing anyway.

Giggles
25-07-2021, 07:33 PM
Yev if it helps I've just come out the other side of a 20 year long struggle with depression and anxiety, alongside high intensity CBT and counselling which has dredged up memories I'd buried so deep that I almost lost a missus and almost chucked myself off a fucking bridge. I'm now unemployed due to work not being able to cater to the requirements I need right now to help me through it.

Just ignore the barbed comments, as hard as it may seem when you first open yourself up to a vulnerability. It helps in the long run to know you've done it. Giggles the empathy vacuum and quincy the absolute grade a spastic aside its been sound.

What about Dark “lets make this about me” Soldier? It’s basically all you’ve done since Yev first mentioned it at all.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:35 PM
Yev if it helps I've just come out the other side of a 20 year long struggle with depression and anxiety, alongside high intensity CBT and counselling which has dredged up memories I'd buried so deep that I almost lost a missus and almost chucked myself off a fucking bridge. I'm now unemployed due to work not being able to cater to the requirements I need right now to help me through it.

Just ignore the barbed comments, as hard as it may seem when you first open yourself up to a vulnerability. It helps in the long run to know you've done it. Giggles the empathy vacuum and quincy the absolute grade a spastic aside its been sound.

I read stuff like this and it's horrific that problems like that are chucked into the same bucket as my experience, which was nothing in comparison. I had a glimpse (not even of the things you cite, but perhaps the potential end result) and that was it. You're a genuine legend for getting through that shit. All I had to do was sleep properly for two weeks and that's even given me a buffer to be able to be reckless with it for a day or two now and then and still be fine.

Dark Soldier
25-07-2021, 07:35 PM
Bar my ego its been offers of actual help. I've happily stepped away at this point though.

Edit: Giggles

Dquincy
25-07-2021, 07:37 PM
For a bunch of aspergers, you fellas certainly take things very seriously. Lighten up.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:37 PM
You can re-write without changing any aspect of the story. Its about flow. I'll stop with the advice here as you have your way set and any offer besides the little comfort bubble of this won't really help. Godspeed mate.

I genuinely welcome the advice and I can see now how I've brought on some of the problems that are coming up. I know what structure/timescales I'm working to, but you lot don't because I've barely told you. I need to elaborate more on that side of things to avoid this sort of confusion in future.

Spammer
25-07-2021, 07:41 PM
Got a writing thread now anyway

Don
25-07-2021, 07:43 PM
Fucking hell, I'm all for the drama and toxicity (big props for that post aimed at Shinners) but I'm really struggling to get interested here at any of this. If I see another thinly veiled 'when I wrote my script' post...

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 07:45 PM
Right.

I'm gonna open the thread again and crack on. I was never going to bin the whole thing, it was just whether it was worth posting about it on here and on balance I still think it is. So thank you for the input in the thread that's got things there.

DS, don't jack it in. I just need to be clearer where I'm at with things so we get the order right and don't waste time. Dquincy You're on ignore and have been for over an hour. I just can't and it seems to be working.
The rest of you Cheers for your kind words too.

Pen
25-07-2021, 07:56 PM
Just buy a convertible something that people usually do during a midlife crisis. You’ve come across a right twat for the better part of two days.

Spammer
25-07-2021, 07:57 PM
Still don't think you should do it in a thread was originally meant for something else, as it'll give people license to jump in, but whevs

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 08:01 PM
Still don't think you should do it in a thread was originally meant for something else, as it'll give people license to jump in, but whevs

Fair point. I'll start my own. Not that I don't like your thread, but I've learnt today there's a huge distinction between what I want to do and writing a screenplay and I don't want to get bogged down in the latter. A bit like footballers pretending to like Henry Winter (and vice versa), I have to do it but doesn't mean I have to actually enjoy it.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 08:01 PM
Just buy a convertible something that people usually do during a midlife crisis. You’ve come across a right twat for the better part of two days.

We're done with all that now, but thanks Pen. Love you too.

Luke Emia
25-07-2021, 08:02 PM
And Luke, I should add that some people are genuinely concerned and they're not at all being a dick about that, but you can spot them a mile off and they're not who have brought any of this about.

Well for my part if you want to give it a go do it. If it doesn’t work out so be it, you won’t have caused anyone harm.

As for any mental health issues you may have had if this helps you in any small way with that it’s a massive positive even if you are in a better place now a lot of the time having a goal and something to aim for makes a huge difference.

As for what you have written the premise sounds decent. How you go about making that into a long running show when people generally have the attention span of a gnat nowadays would probably be my biggest concern.

Luke Emia
25-07-2021, 08:04 PM
Oh and no one who is a mod is going to come back and delete everything. Let’s not forget we are only here because Mark had literally given up with The Dugout. He didn’t delete the whole place he just stopped giving a shit about it.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 08:07 PM
Cheers Luke.

And on the mental health stuff guys, if it should even be described as that in the first place, it's 100% fine now. I told you all when it wasn't and I'll do so again if it becomes a problem down the line. In the meantime, it's BAU again, which as you all know by now does involve me being a cock from time to time, not because I'm mental (unless advised otherwise), but because I'm a cock.

Pen
25-07-2021, 08:31 PM
We're done with all that now, but thanks Pen. Love you too.

I have no ill feelings towards you but you haven’t reacted all that well before. Just look at your past endeavors and have a think are you really committing to this kind of nonsense.

Spikey M
25-07-2021, 08:33 PM
Skipping neatly over Pen trying to stoke the embers for some reason, the people DEMAND to know what's going on in your private Modmin Section. Are you fuckers hiding Mark in there?

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 08:33 PM
I have no ill feelings towards you but you haven’t reacted all that well before. Just look at your past endeavors and have a think are you really committing to this kind of nonsense.

I don't wish to sound rude, but I'm not remotely interested in continuing this conversation so I'm not going to.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 08:35 PM
Skipping neatly over Pen trying to stole the ashes for some reason, the people DEMAND to know what's going on in your private Modmin Section. Are you fuckers hiding Mark in there?

In regard to Pen's line of questioning, sometimes there comes a point when even my arse runs out of grapes. As for the Office, nothing. Phonics has vanished this afternoon so it's still the graveyard it's always been. Probably for the best really.

Pen
25-07-2021, 08:36 PM
You do what you must. Just maybe ask a healthcare professional how they view this.

Yevrah
25-07-2021, 08:37 PM
You do what you must. Just maybe ask a healthcare professional how they view this.

Nice one, but I'm not taking the bait. Have a pleasant evening.

Pen
25-07-2021, 08:41 PM
No bait, but likewise.

SvN
26-07-2021, 10:22 AM
First of all this isn’t anything meant at removing Yev but his recent instability got me thinking about the current hierarchy here. I’ll also say I was one of the main advocates in maintaining the same admins in the move from the Dugout to here to keep things stable. That said, we have Henry who is God knows where, John who is likewise, and ItalAussie who only pops up to pretend to be Italian when the situation arises about twice a year. At this stage what exactly are they adding and what’s to stop any of them rocking up and kicking out half the users or closing the place? I’m not even advocating for adding any more admins, the ones that are here regularly do fine and it doesn’t really need it anyway, but those few surely need to be removed at this stage.

You raise a good point here. Most of the people that were made admins when we moved here no longer post. And even those that do very rarely do anything. Yev closing the other thread because people were being mean about his sitcom is probably the first thing he's done since we moved here 6 years ago. I can't see any reason for him to be an admin, so I've removed him.

I've also removed Ital, Henry and John, none of which have posted in ages.

But. Just to offer a bit of reassurance, noone can realistically kill the forum other than me. I have sole access to the hosting and domain, and we have automated daily backups. So any damage that a rouge admin could potentially do would be a headache to undo, but a few hours of hassle at the most.

Boydy
26-07-2021, 10:24 AM
What if you get hit by a bus?

SvN
26-07-2021, 10:25 AM
Then TTH will close as a way of paying respects.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 10:41 AM
Being unilaterally removed as an admin because Giggles shit the bed. :D

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 10:43 AM
Yev closing the other thread because people were being mean about his sitcom is probably the first thing he's done since we moved here 6 years ago. I can't see any reason for him to be an admin, so I've removed him.


That wasn't why I closed it. Why is Kiko still a mod/admin?

Raoul Duke
26-07-2021, 10:43 AM
The child will inherit the forum. This is the way

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 10:47 AM
Oh and I now can't sort the new sitcom thread into order, so I'm afraid all of the shit in it will have to stay as it is.

Spikey M
26-07-2021, 10:48 AM
I have no idea what's going on with this place at the moment :D

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 10:50 AM
I have no idea what's going on with this place at the moment :D

:D It's lockdown. We've been living like lab rats for a year and a half now and that has to take its toll.

SvN
26-07-2021, 10:50 AM
That wasn't why I closed it. Why is Kiko still a mod/admin?

His lucious hair.

Ian
26-07-2021, 10:50 AM
Message board drama about mods and admins. How very mid-2000s.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 10:51 AM
His lucious hair.

Fair. Look, it's no biggie, but expect some PM's from me to delete posts when I start posting in the new sitcom thread and the morons hijack it, as I now won't be able to delete any of that shit myself.

SvN
26-07-2021, 10:52 AM
And expect them to be ignored.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 10:56 AM
In which case, expect me to behave in the way people will in my thread in others that I don't actually give a shit about but think it's a laugh to ruin.

SvN
26-07-2021, 10:58 AM
I'm genuinely excited to see what you come up with.

Baz
26-07-2021, 11:03 AM
I think so. It’s Quick Links > View Site Leaders.

This still shows Henry, ItalAussie and John as admins.

SvN
26-07-2021, 11:04 AM
Ah shit. Don't tell Yev.

Lewis
26-07-2021, 11:04 AM
I'm genuinely excited to see what you come up with.

https://i.imgur.com/pvGH8wG.png

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 11:07 AM
I'm genuinely excited to see what you come up with.

Hopefully I won't have to, but it would be so unbelievably easy.

Offshore Toon
26-07-2021, 11:11 AM
This is a twist I didn't see coming.

randomlegend
26-07-2021, 11:24 AM
SvN I think I should be an admin so I can delete posts from my Plane Tracking thread when morons hijack it by posting low-tier sources.

I will give you 12 hours to grant my request or expect me to start posting baseball news in the cricket thread.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 11:27 AM
That idea would probably work well in the shameful lustage thread actually.

Spikey M
26-07-2021, 11:36 AM
Where is Don? All this "Toxicity" is right up his street and he's nowhere to be seen.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 11:37 AM
He was loving it on the last page, no?

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 11:38 AM
Fucking hell, I'm all for the drama and toxicity (big props for that post aimed at Shinners) but I'm really struggling to get interested here at any of this. If I see another thinly veiled 'when I wrote my script' post...

He was. Well, the toxicity at least.

Spikey M
26-07-2021, 11:43 AM
Ah, missed that. He's clearly a small time toxicity merchant. He can't hack it.

Kikó
26-07-2021, 12:14 PM
That wasn't why I closed it. Why is Kiko still a mod/admin?

Grass.

Don
26-07-2021, 12:26 PM
Forgive me for not sustaining my hard-on for the war between failed writers and wannabe psychologists.

Giggles
26-07-2021, 12:28 PM
Kiko is a very active poster isn't he, so there would be no reason to remove him as a mod. For the same reason as I wouldn't have removed Yev either, though in fairness he's going a long way to proving SvN right since he did it.

Giggles
26-07-2021, 12:30 PM
Being unilaterally removed as an admin because Giggles shit the bed. :D

Can you read? Because you're not going to be much of a writer if your comprehension of my original post in this thread is anything to go by.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 12:40 PM
Can you read? Because you're not going to be much of a writer if your comprehension of my original post in this thread is anything to go by.

There are two things at play here. What's written in your original opening post and your actual motivation for writing it. The two are not the same and we all know that's the case.

Giggles
26-07-2021, 12:55 PM
There are two things at play here. What's written in your original opening post and your actual motivation for writing it. The two are not the same and we all know that's the case.

No you don't, because it's not the case. It's something I meant to ask for a good while and then I wasn't about and had forgot about it, and you jogged my memory.

Why would a forum have anyone looking after things, or even be able to, that isn't here any more? Like I said though, was SvN really wrong to make the decision he did considering how you've taken it?

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 01:18 PM
Why would a forum have anyone looking after things, or even be able to, that isn't here any more?

Well it shouldn't were there anything to actually look after, which there isn't and is what makes your point, such as you claim it is, so absolutely bizarre.



Like I said though, was SvN really wrong to make the decision he did considering how you've taken it?

Where did you say that and how do you think I've taken it?

Baz
26-07-2021, 01:31 PM
Like I said though, was SvN really wrong to make the decision he did considering how you've taken it?


Where did you say that and how do you think I've taken it?

Erm


For the same reason as I wouldn't have removed Yev either, though in fairness he's going a long way to proving SvN right since he did it.


In which case, expect me to behave in the way people will in my thread in others that I don't actually give a shit about but think it's a laugh to ruin.

:rosebud:

Dquincy
26-07-2021, 01:35 PM
I didn't think this thread could get any funnier, but it bloody well has. :lol: Well played everyone.

Yev getting removed as mod is peak :D

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 01:35 PM
Kiko is a very active poster isn't he, so there would be no reason to remove him as a mod. For the same reason as I wouldn't have removed Yev either, though in fairness he's going a long way to proving SvN right since he did it.

Apologies, completely missed this post.

There was nothing to be proven right on, as there's absolutely nothing to do here as a mod or admin.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 01:37 PM
But, I've no idea as to the real reason SvN removed me. Maybe he was worried I'd go rogue and fuck things up. :D

SvN
26-07-2021, 01:38 PM
Since you asked, here's what I posted in The Office:


Just FYI, I've removed Yev as an admin.

1 - I didn't even realise he was one. He's done zero moderating or admin work since this place was launched in 2015.
2 - It really didn't sit well with me that the only time he's used his "powers" was to lock a thread because people were saying mean things about his shitcom.
3 - Given that he's basically Smiffy with a typewriter these days, I didn't feel comfortable with the potential headache if he went off on one and started deleting crap.
4 - TTH is not his private blog that he controls. If he wants to start threads about his writing, then fine. But a personal secret forum that's invite only? Get fucked.

Dquincy
26-07-2021, 01:38 PM
But, I've no idea as to the real reason SvN removed me. Maybe he was worried I'd go rogue and fuck things up. :D

It's because you had a breakdown, you nutbar.

Boydy
26-07-2021, 01:41 PM
"Shitcom"

:lol:

Kikó
26-07-2021, 01:44 PM
IJ has been added as an admin in the background fwiw.

Dquincy
26-07-2021, 01:45 PM
How does one go about applying to be a moderator?

Jimmy Floyd
26-07-2021, 01:46 PM
Heads have gone.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 01:49 PM
Since you asked, here's what I posted in The Office:

Knew you were scared I'd go off on one and start deleting shit. :D

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 01:50 PM
It's because you had a breakdown, you nutbar.

Do you genuinely think I did? And if you do, why would you be posting that? What are you hoping to achieve?

SvN
26-07-2021, 01:53 PM
Knew you were scared I'd go off on one and start deleting shit. :D

Scared is probably overstating it. But I think it's a reasonable concern to have.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 01:54 PM
Scared is probably overstating it. But I think it's a reasonable concern to have.

Hardly. But you're the one with the keys so you do you.

Dquincy
26-07-2021, 02:13 PM
Do you genuinely think I did? And if you do, why would you be posting that? What are you hoping to achieve?
Com on... I'm only joking. Lighten up.

Yes you've been somewhat erratic of recent. But you've not had a breakdown. I was exaggerating for the benefit of being humorous. And some people get Dquincy and some people don't, they just don't have the emotional intelligence to.

You are bloody great. :)

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 02:15 PM
Com on... I'm only joking. Lighten up.

Yes you've been somewhat erratic of recent. But you've not had a breakdown. I was exaggerating for the benefit of being humorous. And some people get Dquincy and some people don't, they just don't have the emotional intelligence to.

You are bloody great. :)

Olive branch accepted.

Dave.
26-07-2021, 03:13 PM
Smiffy with a typewriter. :lol:

Offshore Toon
26-07-2021, 03:29 PM
That reasoning from SvN is fair.

Spammer
26-07-2021, 08:19 PM
This is great.

Always saw Yev as one of the steady Eddie's around here. It's making me wonder if it's the forum itself that sends people nuts.

Offshore Toon
26-07-2021, 09:23 PM
There's a horror film idea for DS. A cursed forum that slowly sends all of it's members insane.

Yevrah
26-07-2021, 09:48 PM
This is great.

Always saw Yev as one of the steady Eddie's around here. It's making me wonder if it's the forum itself that sends people nuts.

It's just the lack of variety in life I think, which should be ending soon, but who knows for sure.