June: The Euro 2020-ish Group Stages

[Adramelch]

The fact that Jimmy's bet still looks good despite all the misses is insane.

Forsberg's was the only proper good kick.

Isak has been so good again.

Edit: I guess Depay's was good as well.

[Bernanke]

Sociedad really need to renegotiate that Dortmund buyback clause on Isak unless they want a Kimmich situation happening.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hamsik playing for IFK was a jarring discovery. Have they got money or something?

[Bernanke]

Hamsik playing for IFK was a jarring discovery. Have they got money or something?

He joined for an average league salary in order to get fit for this tournament. It was one of very few leagues that had an open window. He's off to Trabzonspor now.

[Adramelch]

Now for Spain to draw with Poland and set up a match to the death in the last round. Although I guess that would mean Slovakia would be fine with a draw and the park the bus.

[niko_cee]

Slovakia are going to be parking the bus against Spain regardless, 4 points and 0 GD is their maximum return.

[Bernanke]

90-10 possession incoming. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at Lovren attempting a free kick.

[Adramelch]

Croatia have looked a bit pointless in the tournament so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How can they think this is a penalty?

[Spikey M]

That's harsh

[Jimmy Floyd]

Truly dreadful decision and I am here for it. Few sights better in football than a seething Croatia.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His nose is fucked though.

[Boydy]

That's never a penalty.

[Manc]

:harold:

[Spikey M]

Yeah, the blood has made the decision there. There's no intent, he's just moving his arms to jump.

If he wasn't bleeding that's not given.

[Foe]

Schick was doing the same thing when jumping. Mental.

[Spoonsky]

It's an awful decision. I enjoyed Schick stepping up to take still looking battered though.

Croatia have really regressed since 2018.

[Adramelch]

That was lovely.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nice timing.

[Spoonsky]

That free kick was quality. It's a nice strike too but I think the keeper can save it if he just sticks out one hand instead of trying to go with both.

[Don]

Ooof that's a tasty Scots XI. Armstrong needs to be starting but upset is on :drool:

[Spoonsky]

The ref :cab:

[Lewis]

I respect Petr Cech not getting a transplant, especially when he could have hidden it under his little hat for years and weaned us into it. What an alpha move.

[Spikey M]

Souness is such a gobshite. :D

[phonics]

I don’t like this England team. I would much prefer two inside forwards a la Sterling/Sancho and take Foden out.

[phonics]

This Kane/Robertson interview format is cringe as fuck.

[Spikey M]

I like the implication that they're saying the same things because they're so similar, rather than, you know, footballers being deeply unimaginative and heavily coached in speaking to the media.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is McAvoy trying to play up his Scottish accent? He probably hasn't had that thick an accent since he was a child.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The flair of the dynamic Dutch, and the intrigue of France-Germany

Forget the platitudes, the rehearsed lines...

FUCK OFF

adding spice to the pot that is already boiling

SPICE IS NOT THE SAME AS TEMPERATURE YOU CUNT

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The boos are pretty glorious.

[phonics]

Is this Scotland team really tall or is one of the players 4 foot tall?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They namecheck one of our kings several times in their anthem but not their own. What a 'country'.

[phonics]

I'd drop Foden for that haircut tbh.

[phonics]

All national anthems outside of Italy and France should be banned. So fucking dull.

[Baz]

Good to see Scotland look like they’re trying to score. Come on!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Commentator expected that to go in.

I'm not sure how he missed.

[randomlegend]

The Spanish fans on reddit hate this ref but I reckon he's great.

[Lofty]

Anyone else's feed been a bit dodgy so far?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Spanish fans on reddit hate this ref but I reckon he's great.

He was a don in the CL final and he's a don again now. I'm not sure any nation likes their own refs.

[randomlegend]

Anyone else's feed been a bit dodgy so far?

Only for a moment, fine otherwise.

[randomlegend]

He was a don in the CL final and he's a don again now. I'm not sure any nation likes their own refs.

He refed Utd games in the Europa a couple of times and was excellent in those two.

[Yevrah]

This has been pretty poor from us so far.

Just seems to be so little cutting edge.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It is crying out for Grealish in place of Sterling.

[Yevrah]

Sterling as our creative force is a dreadful idea.

[Shindig]

Everything seemed to go down the left from us. We shouldn't bank on Sterling so much.

[Manc]

Scotland are knackered. Thee minimum in the second half.

[Spikey M]

Grealish should have started and it will be criminal if he doesn't come on at the start of the 2nd half.

[Yevrah]

We’re asking Sterling to do something he can’t do. It’s horrid and yet another game where Kane is nowhere.

[Spikey M]

Kane gets zero service. It's like they've all decided not to pass to him unless he drops into midfield.

[Kikó]

I'd do a few changes namely Sterling, Shaw and one of Rice/Phillips. It's too slow.

[Baz]

Souness is looking well.

[Yevrah]

Not necessarily blaming him, but this set up obviously doesn’t help him at all. We’re creating nothing.

[Baz]

It’s not Graeme Souness’ fault, mate.

[7om]

Souness is looking well.

I thought that. The guy looks like he’s winning in life.

[randomlegend]

Get Sancho and Grealish on.

[Lewis]

https://i.imgur.com/UfxgzoP.png

Put some tape on them lad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought Dykes had scored there.

Fair play to Reece James.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Think it was going wide actually.

Sterling staying on :harold:

[Yevrah]

We are so bad. :D

To think we were having a conversation only two weeks about about whether we could win this. :Harold:

[Lewis]

This is exactly the sort of uncoached wank United specialise in.

[phonics]

This is like watching Arsenal, everythings solid enough but there's no-one to carry or move the ball through midfield.

[randomlegend]

Southgate's selections are just appalling. There's definitely a side you could put out which would compete for the tournament.

[phonics]

Southgate's selections are just appalling. There's definitely a side you could put out which would compete for the tournament.

It's not Football Manager.

[Spikey M]

It's just 11 players playing their own game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We are so bad. :D

To think we were having a conversation only two weeks about about whether we could win this. :Harold:

Wasn't James the only one in the "England can win camp"?

[phonics]

Scotland are really well set up. Steve Clarke’s a good manager, Albion sacking him was the beginning of the end.

I’m really not sure how you’d break this down outside of getting Calvert Lewin on and bombing some crosses in to Tierneys area.

[Pen]

England definitely could win, but they’ve been utter shit today. Much of the blame has to go to Southgate here. Unless this is his way of masterminding a second place finish.

[Jimmy Floyd]

A lot of our predictability comes from Rice and Phillips both being quite 'simple' players in midfield - they could do with a Paul Ince or someone like that to carry the ball from one place to another.

[phonics]

I’ll freely admit I haven’t watched a lot but so far the Foden wank fest seems incredibly overhyped. He’s good but I thought he’d look like a young Fabregas by the tall.

[Pen]

Scotland are really well set up. Steve Clarke’s a good manager, Albion sacking him was the beginning of the end.

I’m really not sure how you’d break this down outside of getting Calvert Lewin on and bombing some crosses in to Tierneys area.

I think stop playing with two defensive midfielders might be a start.

[Boydy]

England will get absolutely mauled by the first big team they meet.

[7om]

I’ll freely admit I haven’t watched a lot but so far the Foden wank fest seems incredibly overhyped. He’s good but I thought he’d look like a young Fabregas by the tall.

I thought he has been our tidiest player in the final third. Sterling and Kane looked lost.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sterling still on the pitch and Rashford coming on ahead of DCL to play at striker :harold:

[Lewis]

The same cowardly/obvious selections as Ole Gunnar Binman as well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Clear penalty kick.

[Lewis]

That's a penalty.

[Spikey M]

None of our forward players have looked sharp but I think it's as simple as having no service. Who is meant to be feeding them? Rice and Phillips aren't creative midfielders and our Wingbacks... well.

[phonics]

That’s never a penalty and Sterling should be ashamed of himself with that scream.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No penalty for me but I thought VAR would give it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He didn't give it because Sterling went down like a fanny, but it was still a pen.

[Serj]

He quite clearly stands on his foot, no? How is that not a penalty?

[7om]

I’m hoping Scotland score just to increase the probability of a Yevrage tonight.

[phonics]

No it wasn’t. It’s a contact game. He did nothing to inhibit Sterling playing.

[Adramelch]

It's one of those where either decision seems "reasonable" to me.

[phonics]

If Sterling had been trying to play the ball with the non stepped on foot then I’d see the argument but he didn’t.

[Spoonsky]

Mon a late Scotland goal.

[Pen]

+1 for the no penalty crew.

[Luke Emia]

On the full backs is Chilwell dead? Also Mings is fucking useless, him against Mbappe would be a laugh.

[Spikey M]

Zero urgency whatsoever. :D

[Adramelch]

It feels like the gameplan since he came on is "give Grealish the ball and hope for the best".

[phonics]

Mings is the first player I’ve seen in time that looks massive in comparison to his peers. I can imagine seeing him up close the upsides are hard to ignore.

[phonics]

Zero urgency whatsoever. :D

0-0 is a perfectly fine result. The Czechs are shit and a draw against them would have us go through first place.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Ideal play for second in the group tbh, just need another one of these abhorrent performances for a 0-0 vs Czech and it's coming home. Only slight problem is when Spain finish 2nd too.

[Yevrah]

This is not a million miles away from the game against Algeria I think. Utterly appalling.

[phonics]

Kane looks absolutely pointless. Calvert Lewin with Sancho and Saka against the Czechs please.

[Adramelch]

0-0 is a perfectly fine result. The Czechs are shit and a draw against them would have us go through first place.

A draw means the Czechs are first on goal difference?

[phonics]

This is not a million miles away from the game against Algeria I think. Utterly appalling.

This Scotland are a lot better than that Algeria team.

[phonics]

A draw means the Czechs are first on goal difference?

Ah, thought it was head to head.

[Adramelch]

Ah, thought it was head to head.

It is head to head first but you will have drawn with them.

[Spoonsky]

That ending :D

[Shindig]

If Scotland could finish, they'd be dangerous. I still hold out hope they can put one past Croatia.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I genuinely don't think we've tried to win that game, which is fine, but there's absolutely no accountability for Southgate when we lose to the first good team we play, which is very frustrating.

He has no interest in making us a good team.

[Yevrah]

We don’t create anything close to an acceptable amount of chances and are so fucking boring to watch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I have a feeling that Southgate will go all defensive and the Scots wont bother too much (as they'll fancy their chances more against Croatia) and we'll get a crap 0-0.

I'll take it. Especially as I have a bet on Czech Republic to top the group.

[Danny]

Terrible game. No intent at all.

[phonics]

It is head to head first but you will have drawn with them.

Turns out I’m just an idiot. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Lewis]

He used two like-for-like substitutions, and they were largely made on name recognition.

[Waffdon]

I nearly died at the end. Win on Tuesday and we’re through. Kieran Tierney and Andy Robertson are the two best left backs in the world. Why did we have to get two world class players in the same position.

Adams was brilliant, hopefully they’ve not gassed out too much for Tuesday but Croatia suit us. Mon

[Baz]

Teams with 0 goals:
Scotland
Spain
Germany
Turkey
Hungary

[Jimmy Floyd]

He used two like-for-like substitutions, and they were largely made on name recognition.

trashford on as a centre forward (did he touch the ball?) was the piece de resistance.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He used two like-for-like substitutions, and they were largely made on name recognition.

I honestly don't know how Sterling stayed on the pitch and why Rashford was used ahead of DCL as a striker.

[Pleb]

Yevrah over to you boss.

[7om]

When we lose against the Czechs I want a Southgate ‘catalogue of cuntery’ analysis post please.

[phonics]

My biggest issue is, as I’m fine with being solid and dull, what happened to the set pieces from the last World Cup. We were doing really inventive work then and it’s such a weapon in tournament football.

[Manc]

VAR having a shocker today.

[phonics]

I nearly died at the end. Win on Tuesday and we’re through. Kieran Tierney and Andy Robertson are the two best left backs in the world. Why did we have to get two world class players in the same position.

Adams was brilliant, hopefully they’ve not gassed out too much for Tuesday but Croatia suit us. Mon

Tbh I really like Tierney as a Center back in a three. Almost a blessing in disguise.

[Mellberg]

John McGinn. My guy :cool:

[Magic]

Boring as fuck.

[Luke Emia]

Winning the Croatia game masked a lot of issues, poor in that game and didn’t really make much and tonight was just a continuation of that there is no creativity they will beat the Czech’s but play someone decent and be well beaten.

[Lewis]

trashford on as a centre forward (did he touch the ball?) was the piece de resistance.


I honestly don't know how Sterling stayed on the pitch and why Rashford was used ahead of DCL as a striker.

He hasn't led the line regularly (or effectively) since 2016. He literally just looked at his bench and picked the biggest name striker, like how Ole Gunnar Binman never subs him off in case it goes wrong without him.

[Jimmy Floyd]

How many times did Grealish get kicked after he came on, like 5? He's a free kick generator. Play him and Ward-Prowse (who isn't in the squad, obvs) instead of Sterling and Rice. Oh no, it's too attacking. Cry me a river.

[phonics]

John McGinn. My guy :cool:

Replace our central midfield with Grealish and McGinn and we’d have won the Europa and finished 3rd. I’ve loved McGinn since the first time I saw him play. Just does everything well.

[Shindig]

My biggest issue is, as I’m fine with being solid and dull, what happened to the set pieces from the last World Cup. We were doing really inventive work then and it’s such a weapon in tournament football.

Yeah, it was great and took advantage of VAR.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at the fans drowning out Kane in this interview.

[Waffdon]

John McGinn. My guy :cool:

He’s some boy. We’re a centre half and creative forward/goal scorer away from having a properly decent team. Our best players are all mid 20s or younger as well

[Waffdon]

Imagine getting dominated by Grant Hanley. Haha.

[-james-]

Scotland. :cool:

Fairly solid from England. Basically the same performance as the first game but against a better team. Sees them through anyway.

[Baz]

Are England better off coming 2nd, next-opponent wise?

[Waffdon]

Are England better off coming 2nd, next-opponent wise?

Yeah but you’re still on the bad side of the draw. Just means waiting an extra round for France or Portugal. Finishing 3rd is where its at, fuck all intimidating teams on that side of things other than maybe Belgium.

[-james-]

Are England better off coming 2nd, next-opponent wise?

Yeah, but they play at Wembley if they come first. I think I'd favour topping the group tbh.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I am on the tartan train for Tuesday. Modric crashing out in disgrace would be sweet.

Doubt I'll even turn on Czech Rep 0-0 England.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Are England better off coming 2nd, next-opponent wise?

Yes.

Winner faces second in the France, Germany and Portugal group. Second faces second in the Sweden, Spain, Slovakia group.

[Lewis]

lol at Gary Neville covering for Southgate after calling him our 'biggest asset'.

[Waffdon]

I’m glad we drew, only needing a draw to qualify on Tuesday would see us fold under pressure. We’ll still cuck it, but at least it’ll be in glorious fashion

[Lewis]

He just said it's a young team who haven't played under pressure. I'm reeling here.

[Waffdon]

3 players starting joined the team from a CL final :lol:

[7om]

Southgate has got zero passion or charisma. We are going to get royally bummed at some point, maybe by Schick.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Kane and set pieces bailed him out at the last tournament, if we don't have those we are fucked.

Wouldn't really fancy us against anyone at the moment, we're that stodgy and defensive. Obviously he has a contract for the next tournament cycle as well (why?) so we're stuck with this shite forever despite the most exciting crop of attackers for years.

[Baz]

Who would you Southgate haters want as England boss? Being realistic.

[7om]

Big Sam.

[CJay]

Scotland should definitely be unhappy not to have won that. At least both them and Croatia will be going at it in a winner takes all final game now. Good for the scenes.

Billy Gilmour is fantastic.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Who would you Southgate haters want as England boss? Being realistic.

Dean Smith

[Shindig]

Steve Bruce. Just to see how he gets on.

Actually, International Potterball.

[Luke Emia]

Who would you Southgate haters want as England boss? Being realistic.

I think it’s more the point what did Southgate ever do to warrant getting the job? The World Cup was a fluke yes you can only beat what’s in front of you, but he played 2 decent but not brilliant teams and lost all three games, drew with a semi-decent Columbia and managed to actually beat in the tournament Tunisia, Panama and Sweden. To me he’s just Hodgson in a waistcoat who got a bit lucky in the last World Cup.

[Kikó]

That was absolutely woeful.

[Boydy]

Watching England is like this:


https://youtu.be/qjp1Zrvn8VQ

[Bernanke]

I really hope we steamroll Poland 6-0 and get ahead of Spain on goal difference just so the "strategically avoiding group F" thing backfires.

[Manc]

Something has to be amiss with Kane. I've never seen him play so poorly.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's playing like shit so Levy can't price him out of a move.

[Lewis]

He needs the England Band. We all do.

[Spikey M]

Something has to be amiss with Kane. I've never seen him play so poorly.

I just think he's completely isolated. He was free and in space a lot, but the pass through to him risked losing the ball, so instead it went backwards or sideways.

He's not playing like he was early on in the season when he was routinely "Quarterbacking" for Son and racking up assists, but that's not really his game. He just needs the ball somewhere vaguely near the goal.

[Spikey M]

I respect Petr Cech not getting a transplant, especially when he could have hidden it under his little hat for years and weaned us into it. What an alpha move.

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[Lewis]

I'd sit this one out lad.

[Spikey M]

Good things come in small packages.

[Spoonsky]

Good vibes: Italy, Belgium, France
Bad vibes: England, Germany, Spain
Indeterminate vibes: Portugal, Netherlands

Heard it here first.

[Lewis]

Face down in his sex tub vibes: Yevrah

[Spoonsky]

:D

Maybe it's Yevrage itself that unites these generations of England teams.

[Spoonsky]

Meanwhile the Copa America seems to be going well.

Bolivian player suspended at Copa America for criticizing organizers (https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/article/bolivian-player-suspended-copa-america-criticizing-organizers/)

Copa America's COVID-19 cases increase 13 to 66 (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/copa-america-cases-covid-19-212851391.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABSh66LzQn0faoHmrczm734fyb76 9AuAJBaqYxBmZbbyixNEQYveXwnyLQlndpslm66M3UUnCI7A8s XP6MOPkHAFXLeCbcUkdsjfkFAQnNVfuMS2asQZuHNrAZTfoB0f jNKUNd9YwXSJR7i2l7VrmIeoNtGi_xmRNVw09DiajS6x)

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/18/thiago-alcantara-we-see-less-magic-less-fantasy-footballers-do-more-but-faster

Great piece, Micah-esque in his wisdom.

[Pen]

That was a good read 👍

[Andy]

Midfield balance was all wrong. Phillips had a great game again Croatia and I'm sure he will be useful if we play any other decent sides but we needed something else.

For me it should have been Phillips and Mount off after 55-60 minutes with Grealish and Bellingham coming on. Then give it 10 minutes to see what's happening and then change the front three up.

Either that or drop Rice in between the centre backs and play 343. We looked so ordinary.

[Andy]

I just think he's completely isolated. He was free and in space a lot, but the pass through to him risked losing the ball, so instead it went backwards or sideways.

He's not playing like he was early on in the season when he was routinely "Quarterbacking" for Son and racking up assists, but that's not really his game. He just needs the ball somewhere vaguely near the goal.

I think he has been told specifically not to drop back and get involved in the build up. Even 4-5 years ago before he took on the creative burden for Spurs he was dropping back more than this. Its all a bit strange, but at the same time typical of England in a major tournament.

[niko_cee]

Don't want to peak too early lads.

Or probably at all in England's case.

[niko_cee]

Real winner was Ian Wright's suit anyway, had he just come from Ascot or something?

[Shindig]

Midfield balance was all wrong. Phillips had a great game again Croatia and I'm sure he will be useful if we play any other decent sides but we needed something else.

For me it should have been Phillips and Mount off after 55-60 minutes with Grealish and Bellingham coming on. Then give it 10 minutes to see what's happening and then change the front three up.

Either that or drop Rice in between the centre backs and play 343. We looked so ordinary.

Above all, we need to stop looking to Sterling for answers. It's too obvious and easy to defend. As we've seen, he doesn't offer much support for Kane either. He's a spark but waiting for him to do the one piece of magic leads to a lot of wasted effort.

[Browning]

I really hope we steamroll Poland 6-0 and get ahead of Spain on goal difference just so the "strategically avoiding group F" thing backfires.

On the evidence of their first game I would much rather face Spain than anyone from group f.

Spain vs England would be the worst match to ever happen but they’re worse at penalties than we are.

[Mellberg]

Know I'm biased, but we needed Ollie Watkins upfront last night. He brings a lot that Kane doesn't and gets you up the pitch. No good having a player of Kane's finishing ability if he's not getting on the ball. Set pieces are terrible too. Where's Ward-Prowse? What a waste of a squad place White was.

Agree with Andy. Bellingham needs to start.

Pickford
James
Stones
Mings/Maguire
Chilwell
Phillips/Rice
Bellingham
Sancho
Mount
Grealish
Calvert-Lewin

Be ruthless and give it a try in a dead rubber.

[randomlegend]

Know I'm biased, but we needed Ollie Watkins upfront last night. He brings a lot that Kane doesn't and gets you up the pitch. No good having a player of Kane's finishing ability if he's not getting on the ball. Set pieces are terrible too. Where's Ward-Prowse? What a waste of a squad place White was.

Agree with Andy. Bellingham needs to start.

Pickford
James
Stones
Mings/Maguire
Chilwell
Phillips/Rice
Bellingham
Sancho
Mount
Grealish
Calvert-Lewin

Be ruthless and give it a try in a dead rubber.

That'd probably be my starting 11 aside from the fact I'd put Kane in. If you've got Bellingham, Grealish and Sancho on we'll actually create chances for Kane.

[Spikey M]

All the focus being on Kane is quite funny. He isn't Ronaldo, he can't force the whole team to be better. He's been shit because everyone around him has been.

We should definitely be focusing on bringing in more creative outlets, but... Southgate gonna Southgate.

He's more likely to take 2021's equivalent of playing Rooney on the left wing; drop him deeper and use him as the play maker. You lose alot of his finishing ability, but that's useless when he's stood doing fuck all anyway. He didn't have the most assists in the league by accident last season.

[Yevrah]

It's good there's still no reason why we can't win this tournament, I'd be worried otherwise.

[Don]

People calling for Sterling and Phillips' heads already :happycry:

You ain't doing shit, suck it up and prep for the humiliation.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Greaseman :harold:

[Shindig]

Lash that home and worry about the flag later, Tony.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Benzema with a shocker.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And Mbappe with one too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:rave:

[Adramelch]

That was actually a great goal.

[Waffdon]

Could really do with France winning this

[Waffdon]

Mbappe and Griezmann need Giroud

[Adramelch]

Mbappe hardcarrying France again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Long ball bastards.

[Lewis]

The biggest whopper in football.

[Shindig]

What a hoof.

[SincereTheRebel]

Mbappe and Griezmann need Giroud

Giroud is only a few goals behind Henry Don for all time

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dembele getting subbed off after 29 minutes or so :harold:

[Adramelch]

He was injured.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

lol at France.

[Gray Fox]

Is there a more hateable team than France?

Kante aside who is both likely up for the Ballon d'Or and by all accounts a top bloke, the rest of them want a good thumping.

[niko_cee]

What does this do for operation don't win the group? Seems a bit of a fly in that particular ointment. Germany to beat Portugal and Hungary, Portugal to beat France by a few, France go home?

[-james-]

Which Group F team are England supposed to be afraid of?

[Waffdon]

I doubt Germany win. If their game wasn’t in Munich against Hungary, I’d fancy them to go out with one point at best. Scotland could really do with Portugal winning this game. I can just see them winning on Tuesday and still somehow going out on 4 points.

[Waffdon]

Which Group F team are England supposed to be afraid of?

You and Manc’s confidence no matter a result or performance is beautiful

[Yevrah]

Which Group F team are England supposed to be afraid of?

I mean, you’ve watched us right? Clearly all of them.

[Waffdon]

Making a right back who plays for Motherwell look competent was some effort last night never mind a centre mid and left back in a back 3

[niko_cee]

I doubt Germany win. If their game wasn’t in Munich against Hungary, I’d fancy them to go out with one point at best.

Is this you writing off the Germans?

[Waffdon]

They were shite in 2018 and don’t look much better

[-james-]

I mean, you’ve watched us right? Clearly all of them.


I've watched England's games, yeah. Have you watched any Group F games?

[Lewis]

Souness is looking well.


I thought that. The guy looks like he’s winning in life.

He's got his shirt open claiming he could still crab it about like a modern midfielder. Sixty-eight years young.

[Reg]

These past two days is surely the happiest he's ever been. He was borderline ecstatic by his standards before last night's game.

He's just forgotten Grealish's name. "The winger from Villa." I think he's been drinking.

[Browning]

What does this do for operation don't win the group? Seems a bit of a fly in that particular ointment. Germany to beat Portugal and Hungary, Portugal to beat France by a few, France go home?

France would still be third on 4 points which will easily be enough.

[Lewis]

STAUNCH as fuck, Sandbanks tan, still revelling in Brexit. I bet he sends Phil Thompson pictures of his bank balance every month.

[Waffdon]

These past two days is surely the happiest he's ever been. He was borderline ecstatic by his standards before last night's game.

He's just forgotten Grealish's name. "The winger from Villa." I think he's been drinking.

He was in my girlfriends restaurant having a meal with David Murray last week. Left her a £100 tip. Great guy, though she was a bit confused when the owner and his wife came from their house next door to get a photo with him.

[Adramelch]

What does this do for operation don't win the group? Seems a bit of a fly in that particular ointment. Germany to beat Portugal and Hungary, Portugal to beat France by a few, France go home?

France are through whatever happens. Loser of Germany vs Hungary is basically guaranteed to go out, unless Portugal lose both remaining games by a considerable margin.

[niko_cee]

Can not enough other 3rd placed teams finish on 4 points with a positive goal difference? I realise it's a long shot.

[Waffdon]

They can but let’s not think like that please.

2 Spain wins and a Belgium win should see all teams on 4 points go through

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hate that call.

He's offside but he doesn't interfere.

[Adramelch]

I'd say he does interfere.

[Lewis]

What a freak.

[Waffdon]

:cool:

Wins the header and sticks the ball in the net 10 Seconds later

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Germans are fucking awful against the counter.

[niko_cee]

Portugal would ruin England (history between the two, chocked full of Premier League players, the way they play) so hopefully they win the group, but then you would probably say the same of France even though they haven't looked all that so far. Operation second place still very much on, 0-0 inbound.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Goose has started well today.

[Danny]

Portugal shitting the bed.

[Spikey M]

Portuglol

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:rave:

[Adramelch]

You don't need to play strikers when Portugal's defenders do the job for you.

[niko_cee]

Portuglol

PortOGlol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

PortOGlol.

Take a bow, sir.

[Waffdon]

As long as this doesn’t finish a draw

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gosens is shitting on Semedo.

[Yevrah]

I've watched England's games, yeah. Have you watched any Group F games?

I have and if you think this England team will knock out either France, Portugal or Germany in the next round then I can only assume that you have a fixed view that isn't at all swayed by how we play.

[Danny]

Pepe :lol:

[-james-]

I have and if you think this England team will knock out either France, Portugal or Germany in the next round then I can only assume that you have a fixed view that isn't at all swayed by how we play.

I don't think they will, I just don't understand the viewpoint that it's out of the question. With home field advantage factored in it's probably about 60/40 either way. Are England worse than Hungary?

[Yevrah]

I think we're in agreement then. They could knock one of those teams out, I just don't think they will. Which puts us some way from winning the tournament, which was the view I had before it started.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Semedo getting donned by Gosens again.

King Kai getting a deserved goal :cool:

[Lewis]

'Are England worse than Hungary?'
'If you would like us to reconnect your electricity...'

[Waffdon]

Cancelo getting covid has absolutely fucked Portugal. Semedo is utterly useless in every single game he plays. Can’t even use his pace effectively.

Germany wiping off Portugal’s GD here back to 0 or -1 would be handy

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654064837432967198/855857986559934464/20210619_181354.jpg

What is he even doing?

[Adramelch]

Gosens clear man of the match but Havertz also with direct involvement in all 3 goals.

[Waffdon]

Gosens clear man of the match but Havertz also with direct involvement in all 3 goals.

Havertz will be one of the best sooner rather than later. He’s so good. Ruben Dias about to lose 4 games in the space of 3 months to him. Probably hasn’t lost that amount since joining Man City in every other game

[Adramelch]

Ye he was amazing with Leverkusen. Haven't followed him much this season though.

Edit: And now Portugal is in big big trouble. They have to take something against France.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gosens is brilliant.

[Waffdon]

Gimme 5 or 6 please. Even Werner will run riot against these lot

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gimme 5 or 6 please. Even Werner will run riot against these lot

Only if he was on the left so Semedo would leave him wide open.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Smart to leave Ronaldo unmarked for a free kick.

[Adramelch]

Both defenses have been comically bad all game. I can't even think what'll happen if they meet an in-form Italy or Belgium.

[Waffdon]

Belgium’s defence is just as bad to be fair

[Adramelch]

True but at least they showed some bite offensively. Current Belgium doesn't quite fit my "in form Belgium" description anyway. They've been proper good for just one half and even there they only got away with it because Braithwaite can't finish.

[Shindig]

France and Portugal might conspire to share the spoils to ensure they both go through.

[Adramelch]

But that means France would willingly give up first spot. And they are already through unless something extraordinary happens.

[Spikey M]

Interesting how Lewandowski gets the "he's not getting service he's used to" treatment from the pundits but Kane gets slated.

[Bernanke]

Stonewall pen that. Poles getting shafted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck VAR.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck right off.

[Manc]

Are we not being shown the lines anymore?

[Adramelch]

I mean the defender's foot was covering him. They are showing the lines at some point Manc

[Spoonsky]

Interesting how Lewandowski gets the "he's not getting service he's used to" treatment from the pundits but Kane gets slated.

Kane is English.

[Adramelch]

Surely Swiderski has an easy goal there if he goes for a header?

[Waffdon]

Interesting how Lewandowski gets the "he's not getting service he's used to" treatment from the pundits but Kane gets slated.

We get it, you love Harry Kane x

Sure he’s out Grant Hanley’s pocket now