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-james-
18-05-2021, 10:00 AM
It's Eurovision week. Semis are tonight and Thursday, final Saturday. I'll cross post my post from the betting thread with links to rehearsal clips and some of the betting chat snipped out.

Big five:

Italy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKVfCCSfcPg) (4/1) - Rock/rap entries traditionally struggle with juries but this is so well presented that I think they'll buy it. Huge televote numbers are a given and this is guaranteed to look incredible (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7ZlfraxaFM). Will contend for the win, but the jury question mark does remain.

France (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUfkstvRMtw) (4/1) - I think this is wonderful. Star quality and absolutely captivating, the rehearsal clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUfkstvRMtw) leaves me gagging for more. The caveats being it might be a bit high brow/pretentious to win, and I wonder if the big finale comes off a touch jarring on the night. I have it as a fairly nailed on jury winner, and seeing as how we get jury results first on the night I think it's a good idea to have this green ahead of time if you're trading the event. How it is rated on sofas will decide the contest.

Spain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aR_LJJLdTI), UK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoUo7uJyIw), Germany (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMFNEMLR2Eg) - Non-contenders that are not worthy of discussion. UK and Spain come 25th & 26th. Germany might do alright idk.


Semi 1


Lithuania (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsiHpDvGgrk) (44/1) - Q - Slick, fun, but maybe a bit too zany? Will certainly mop up a ton of televote. Should be fairly nailed on for a top 10 finish.

Russia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n72vQpZhg_E) (70/1) - Q - They've really nailed the staging on this, should be very memorable and assured of a good televote. Potentially even ticks the authenticity box for the jury. Top 10.

Sweden (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sa7Ke9lsJs)(90/1) - Q - I can't remember a Swedish entry this bad. Once again they get their national selection wrong and send the wrong act. Completely forgettable and should get lost among the plentiful more engaging performances. Could genuinely see it not qualifying and the TQ lay at 1.2 is certainly value.

Cyprus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzmb4hnHUrU) (13/1) - Q - Just as in 2019, Cyprus attempt to recreate their second place finish of 2018 (click here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyDTbJ4wenY) for a reminder of how good that was) by sending an unbeat pop song performed by a scantily clad diva and four dancers in a line. Elena is very competent, but will not come close to being as likeable to the televote as Eleni Foureira even if she does do a lot more smiling. This is one of the better entries of this genre, but I'm truly baffled it's traded as low as 11 the past few days. True odds of this winning are 100/1+.

Norway (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0gdFST45Ys) (210/1) - Q - It's a massive gimmick, but there's usually one that does well. Obvious jury poison. Anywhere between 10th and 20th sounds about right.

Ukraine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v39i-sPHsQ) (40/1) - Q - This will be a big fan favourite and has drawn the absolute pimp slot in the semi. Probably too weird to properly contend.

Malta (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3zyOSMMOKU) (13/2) - Q - Instantly went favourite when the song came out, and I get it. It's contemporary, attention grabbing, huge vocally, has a message etc. Is it more memorable than the other favourites? I don't think so. Maybe too much of a Lizzo/Netta tribute act, and might get lost in the sea of uptempo pop. It's definitely not a bad one to have onside but the current 13/2 in the outright is probably about right.

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Australia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6VGAdtc5Yw) (880/1) - Borderline - This is a curious one. I really like it, and should go down better with the juries than Croatia, Israel etc., but it has loads going against it. Lack of USP, rotten draw, but also lack of diaspora/voting friends and the fact that it'll be an empty stage with a home video playing. The latter element introduces a lot of uncertainty but I hear the execution is quite impressive and might not even be noticable to the lay viewer. Basically it's probably at the mercy of the juries, which is worrying considering that it's a tricky song to sing and Montaigne has far from a spotless record when it comes to live vocals. I do hope it's a success but steering clear in the betting.

Romania (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUiznisIcdg) (330/1) - Borderline - I backed this as low as 35 in the outright pre-rehearsals which is clearly a turd. Just doesn't come to life on stage or showcase Roxen's vocals like it should. Possibly in trouble.

Ireland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpH4S1QeJww) (310/1) - Borderline - Has a fairly unique staging concept and following the worst song in the contest will elevate it. It's just a bit too breathless though and I can't see it travelling East very well. There is definitely a universe where it qualifies but I'd want a bigger price.

Croatia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-8TPw14B5A) (200/1) - Borderline - Probably the most generic of the fem-pop acts and I hope it doesn't qualify, but should be competent enough to get through.

Belgium (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeX0RgvzmNI) (640/1) - Borderline - They're an actual band who make ACTUAL MUSIC so I have no doubt they'll look good on stage and deliver it well. Song is pretty dull so it's hard to see them not tanking the televote, but juries will reward it in an evening that is very light on jury bait.

Israel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_XXmnB_ngU) (400/1) - Borderline - This lives or dies by the vocal performance on the night. More pretty boring fem-pop and perhaps borderline gimmicky with the whistle notes. Possible NQ.

Azerbaijan (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKZXGyp9MFw) (550/1) - Borderline - This is 14th in the running order and I think by that point you're so done with inoffensive popstresses. Also not getting as many of the usual freebies in a semi featuring this many strong Eastern entries.

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Slovenia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSLXIj9RBko) (1000/1) - NQ - It's not awful, her vocals are excellent in fact, but qualifying from 2nd in the running order, and in between a bunch of stronger acts, is a tall order.

North Macedonia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR2aKaL5yb0) (1000/1) - NQ - A long three minutes. Nailed on last place.


Semi 2


San Marino (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BRxa4pFuFc) (90/1) - Q - They're really, really trying here, and it does kinda bang, but it's hard to see much better than 15th in the final.

Greece (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgjBc-6jJoU) (75/1) - Q - Should be superb vocally. The production team have correctly identified that it needs something to set it apart from similar entries this year, so have gone a bit leftfield with the staging (Think Sergey Lazarev 2016). Could look a bit naff or could absolutely nail the retro aesthetic. I'm optimistic.

Iceland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_igWddS-iY) (14/1) - Q - They have a huge cult following off the back of their song for last year, which was legitimately great but never going to win Eurovision. This year's entry is similar, but not as good. Nerdy twee stuff does not go down well with the televote and I'm not seeing much jury appeal either. Maybe I'm underestimating the power of the fanwank, but I do think the market is very driven by the west and I can't see this doing much better than 10th.

Bulgaria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da91u9C57gY) (17/1) - Q - This is my biggest position in the outright. It should be absolutely charming on the night and has potential for moment of the contest. Can absolutely win. Quite unsure why it's still trading in the high teens.

Finland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV-TJXAL9vg) (150/1) - Q - Very enjoyable Linkin Park tribute act. There's a strong precedent for rock flopping at Eurovision (Hungary '18 a recent example), but this is catchier than many of those and the success story that will be Italy has the potential boost jury sympathy towards this as well. Potentially a surprise top 10.

Switzerland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42mvv6tqGNU) (18/1) - Q - What the hell are they thinking with his staging? The song has a huge ceiling and could've contended but it's completely unvoteable in this form. Top five at absolute best.

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Albania (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q22lExmhb08) (1000/1) - Q/Borderline - Solid Balkan-diva-core. You've seen it before. Plum draw in a semi that contains loads of voting friends too.

Austria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw5EAkKR5y0) (1000/1) - Q/Borderline - Absolute dirge of a song but Vincent does a decent job of selling it. Should get through.

Serbia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COIfeAylSGQ) (420/1) - Q/Borderline - I saw this described as 3 influencers getting trashed and doing karaoke and I can't do any better than that. I love it tbh, it could go down an absolute storm though is guaranteed to tank the jury.

Portugal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taaEEQviw3c) (200/1) - Borderline - The aesthetic here makes me want to vomit. As a result I'm not sure I can judge it objectively. Market seems to think it qualifies and I cba getting involved.

Denmark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKaS_T7MnTc) (460/1) - Borderline - A rubbish song performed by a couple of randoms plucked from the queue for an £1 vodka coke 80s night. Has an absolute dream running order slot though, following load of weird dirge in semi 2. Absolutely no desire to back even severe odds against TQ mind.

Estonia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS7q8CUBwHE) (1000/1) - Borderline - Hunk in an undone tie. It's pretty listenable and I quite like it but the weak semi draw could be a killer.

Moldova (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIhyY1olUrg) (1000/1) - Borderline - Pleasant enough, but lots of acts that do the same thing better.

Latvia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzHWSHBKQWQ) (1000/1) - Borderline - It's a bit moody and unfortunately perhaps not good enough a song for that not to be a dealbreaker. She's got a good set of pipes on her though.

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Czech Republic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToN78rEqfRs) (1000/1) - NQ - Really badly performed and the worst draw imaginable.

Poland (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaK0pJQ8E18) (1000/1) - NQ - A complete mess.

Georgia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5onk9a4wPA) (1000/1) - NQ - Nope

Ian
18-05-2021, 10:09 AM
James Newman's been on the pies, eh.

-james-
18-05-2021, 10:19 AM
The production value of the UK entry is tragic compared to some others. I have no idea why they bother.

Ian
18-05-2021, 10:24 AM
I assume there must be some benefit to being in it but it's been clear for years we don't want to actually win it. Like when Ireland entered the turkey or whatever it was.

Boydy
18-05-2021, 10:37 AM
Cyprus bangs.

I like Switzerland and Finland too.

Jimmy Floyd
18-05-2021, 10:59 AM
Listened to about half of them last night, am all in on Ukraine. France have a very good song but surely the people won't vote for something so nakedly French? No one likes the French.

Denmark should be dissolved in acid, as should Poland.

-james-
18-05-2021, 11:20 AM
I assume there must be some benefit to being in it but it's been clear for years we don't want to actually win it. Like when Ireland entered the turkey or whatever it was.

I imagine it started off as the clout of "sure, we'll fund your silly little singing contest" and now they can't get out of it.

They've had the odd passable song in the past decade but nothing that has been remotely engaging on stage. An example being 2019 where they bought a John Lundvik song, who himself entered the contest for Sweden and came fourth. We entered a binman in a River Island jacket and came 25th.

Ian
18-05-2021, 11:30 AM
Obviously this was a long time ago but I'm sure when Ireland won/hosted a few on the spin they basically decided that hosting it didn't bring in enough money to be worth the hassle of winning it. It wouldn't surprise me, given the state of some of our entries, if we had much the same attitude.

Still, we'll always have Katrina and the Waves.

Jimmy Floyd
18-05-2021, 11:32 AM
We last won with Katrina and the Waves in, wait for it, 1997. I'm pretty sure all our winning entries before that had some fun and life about them rather than the series of - what, twenty? - droids we have put out in the last couple of decades.

Bucks Fizz. M-m-m-making your mind up. Really works in a Smashy and Nicey style DJ voice.

Ian
18-05-2021, 11:38 AM
Apparently since Katrina and the Waves we came third with somebody called Jessica Garlick, which I do not remember at all and I still probably normally saw Eurovision at that time.

-james-
18-05-2021, 11:45 AM
Most of the countries that really want to win (Malta, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria etc.) have delegations that get given pots of money to make them look hip and cool (cough buy votes cough). The other countries that regularly do well (Italy, Sweden, Russia) do so because they have national singing competitions that are a big deal in their own right, or a head honcho with their finger on the pulse. We have no need for the former and definitely don't have the latter.

I've thought for a while that the UK literally just need to hire A.G. Cook and get some hyperpop zoomer to perform, it's such a perfect fit and they'd probably be up for it. But yeah, why bother?

-james-
18-05-2021, 11:52 AM
Actually it makes perfect sense that the Cyprus outright price is a result of them chucking twenty grand into Betfair to put them "into contention".

Boydy
18-05-2021, 12:31 PM
The Cyprus song is a banger. It sounds a bit like a Lady Gaga song.

-james-
18-05-2021, 12:36 PM
Yeah the chorus is basically exactly the same as Bad Romance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I). Sort of thing the jury should very easily be punishing.

Bernanke
18-05-2021, 02:25 PM
Lithuania is where it's at.

-james-
18-05-2021, 07:41 PM
I was talking shit, there are zero universes in which Ireland qualify.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-05-2021, 05:40 PM
I'm a big fan of the Iceland entry (although it's not as good as the one they were going to use last year) but it's not a Eurovision song.

-james-
20-05-2021, 06:12 PM
Yeah. It's hard to remember an act with this much pre event sympathy, one of them tested positive yesterday so they're just showing one of the rehearsals in the semi & final. Will be interesting to see what that's worth in any case (I suspect very little).

Pen
20-05-2021, 07:50 PM
Iceland were good.

I didn’t pay much attention on Tuesday, but from the few I did see Cyprus and Lithuania were proper Eurovision songs.

Pen
20-05-2021, 07:51 PM
These shit ballads should result in a one year ban.

Manc
20-05-2021, 09:10 PM
Any market movers? -james-

-james-
20-05-2021, 11:38 PM
My gambles on Bulgaria and Greece have flopped. Prices are all over the place and I'd be lying if I said I had a clue how it'll settle. Ukraine have been given a great slot in the running order for the final which suggests they may have won their semi. I still don't buy them as contenders.

Jimmy Floyd
21-05-2021, 06:24 AM
Listen, James, it's not too late to board the Ukraine train. Folk-trance with rusty tractor vibes is the sound of 2021.

-james-
21-05-2021, 10:21 PM
Tomorrow is all about that three minutes where Serbia are on the stage. How three women with the same plastic surgeon have managed to elevate a piece of Pussycat Dolls pastiche to these levels I'll never know.

Jimmy Floyd
22-05-2021, 04:52 AM
Perhaps after this success they will be able to afford a full costume each.

Jeez, that key change is not good.

Bernanke
22-05-2021, 09:59 AM
Surely Italy will walk it with that spot in the schedule.

-james-
22-05-2021, 11:56 AM
Yeah they've been done a huge favour. Televote winner seems almost a given.

-james-
22-05-2021, 06:27 PM
Never doing a write-up before the semi finals again.

France or Italy should win. I'm primarily on France in the betting but hope to even it out at some point. One of Ukraine/Malta/Swiss might challenge. More aboard the Ukraine train now, they're #doing insane #numbers on the #socials.

Here is my incredibly autistically compiled prediction:


1 Italy
2 France
-- gap --
3 Switzerland
4 Malta
5 Ukraine
-- gap --
6 Bulgaria
7 Lithuania
8 Iceland
9 Finland
10 San Marino
11 Serbia
12 Russia
13 Cyprus
14 Greece
15 Belgium
16 Portugal
-- gap --
17 Azerbaijan
18 Sweden
19 Albania
20 Norway
21 Moldova
22 Israel
23 The Netherlands
24 Germany
-- gap --
25 Spain
26 United Kingdom

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:07 PM
lol at Flo Rida actually coming along for fucking San Marino.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:21 PM
Not keen on the Israel entry.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:24 PM
Well this is a weird start.

7om
22-05-2021, 07:25 PM
I’ve only just realised this was on tonight. Is our act as shit as we normally are?

-james-
22-05-2021, 07:29 PM
Russia. :cool:

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:30 PM
That's my favourite so far which is strange as I wasn't that keen on the little snippet in the OP.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:30 PM
It was fine till she left the dress.

Don
22-05-2021, 07:31 PM
I caught act 1 and the level of the Cypriot gash along with this thread has me invested. All complete shite so far with the ethnic cleansers being particularly bad. Belgium was so dull.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:32 PM
I caught act 1 and the level of the Cypriot gash along with this thread has me invested. All complete shite so far with the ethnic cleansers being particularly bad. Belgium was so dull.

I instantly forgot about the Belgian song, there was absolutely nothing to it.

7om
22-05-2021, 07:32 PM
I know the Cypriot woman was talking about some bloke called Diablo but I was distracted by her hips and arse mostly.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:33 PM
Since when did Malta sign up Little Mix?

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:33 PM
Malta has a MASSIVE voice (not just the voice) but I'm not a fan of the song.

Don
22-05-2021, 07:34 PM
This Maltese sea mammal Lizzo tribute act would have done numbers if she had more sass. You're smiling too much, love.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:37 PM
That was horseshit from Portugal.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:38 PM
We might have a winner on our hands.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:40 PM
Actually scratch that.

Give it to Serbia.

7om
22-05-2021, 07:41 PM
This blonde Serbian gash is out of this world.

Don
22-05-2021, 07:41 PM
I was meant to go to Belgrade pre-pandemic and it got postponed. Fucking need to book that up ASAP :drool:

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:46 PM
Why do we even bother sending acts?

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:47 PM
Why do we bother.

Out the way Mahow.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:48 PM
That was Butlins Redcoat-esque.

Don
22-05-2021, 07:48 PM
I need to cop me whatever that upper body garment is.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:49 PM
Nice one lads we just cursed song 9.

7om
22-05-2021, 07:49 PM
I welcome last place with open arms.

7om
22-05-2021, 07:51 PM
Why is it every other country sends supermodels and we send a bloke who looks like he’s just downed 15 pints and a full English.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:52 PM
Why is it every other country sends supermodels and we send a bloke who looks like he’s just downed 15 pints and a full English.

Even in his "postcard" he was preparing to demolish some eggs.

Don
22-05-2021, 07:52 PM
Is this simply elevated by the fact it comes after UK or is this the best yet? Shame her body is stiffer than my erection during Serbia.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:52 PM
Greece's odds may of dramatically fallen.

That fucking dress :drool:

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2BEXDuXMAQdtPu?format=jpg

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:55 PM
He should be banned just for that breakfast.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 07:56 PM
Why is he just standing on a large L?

Don
22-05-2021, 07:58 PM
Swiss guy was such a cutie. Best yet.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 07:59 PM
Greece, Serbia and Iceland in the hunt.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:02 PM
Oh shit these guys again. Did their 2020 banger go to waste? Why not just use that again and cruise to victory?

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:02 PM
Not allowed to use the same song because somehow about CoVid and fair play.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:02 PM
Oh shit these guys again. Did their 2020 banger go to waste? Why not just use that again and cruise to victory?

None of the returning acts were allowed to use the songs they were going to use last year.

They'd have walked last year's event.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:05 PM
My ears are bleeding.

Spikey M
22-05-2021, 08:06 PM
This bitch is terrifying

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:07 PM
Dropping the mic :D

7om
22-05-2021, 08:08 PM
This trash is exactly why I watch Eurovision. Amazing.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:09 PM
Someone check on Taz.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:10 PM
Fucking hell.

I feel for the poor woman dressed as a cock.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:12 PM
What in the actual fuck :D

7om
22-05-2021, 08:13 PM
Voting Leave was the right decision.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:14 PM
"I don't feel hate, I just feel sorry" - debatable.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:15 PM
Blink 182 is here.

Spikey M
22-05-2021, 08:16 PM
Blink 182? :cab:

It's Good Charlotte or something equally 2003.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:18 PM
Finland is so clear of the rest so far.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:18 PM
Blink 182? :cab:

It's Good Charlotte or something equally 2003.

Blink 182 and Linkin Park are my only points of reference.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:22 PM
:saywhat:

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:23 PM
Here's the winner.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:27 PM
Is that Louie fucking Spence?

Don
22-05-2021, 08:28 PM
Lithuania is a banger. Get that sped up slightly and banging out in a darkened warehouse on 21 June.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:30 PM
I don't mind Lithuania.

Ukraine is shit though.

7om
22-05-2021, 08:32 PM
Now now Mahow. Don’t let past traumas cloud your judgement.

EDIT: Yeah no this is shit.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:33 PM
Jesus, Lithuania and Ukraine B2B is naughty club vibes.

7om
22-05-2021, 08:34 PM
That picked up in the second half to be fair.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:35 PM
It did get better as it got on but I still didn't get it.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:36 PM
France is lovely both musically and aesthetically.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:37 PM
I like France a lot, that's cracking.

7om
22-05-2021, 08:38 PM
Awful. She’s the type who probably smears her own period blood on herself during a protest.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:38 PM
That's it lads see you next year.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:39 PM
Might have to go to Azerbaijan next.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:39 PM
:|

Don
22-05-2021, 08:41 PM
Jesus :drool: Azeri too so the parents would approve to boot.

Serj
22-05-2021, 08:42 PM
Azerbaijan is really awful. Might be the worst song yet, and that takes some doing.

France, Iceland, Ukraine, Switzerland and Lithuania top 5 for me.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:42 PM
I agree with three of those picks.

7om
22-05-2021, 08:42 PM
Azerbaijan was top Eurovision.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:44 PM
Norway :D

Fuck me.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:44 PM
If he didn't have Tourette's this would be bottom 5.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:45 PM
Takes the glasses off to make sure everyone knows :D

7om
22-05-2021, 08:46 PM
It’s a crap song but fair play to the lad for getting up there.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:49 PM
This might just take the tv votes because of Black Lives Matter.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:49 PM
Your rhythm is your rebellion :cool:

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:52 PM
I'm not usually a fan of this sort of music but this is brilliant.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 08:52 PM
The odds for Holland have DRAMATICALLY dropped.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:53 PM
That's a vibe. Can see why it's clear fave.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 08:57 PM
This Swedish entry is bland as fuck, especially so after following Italy.

7om
22-05-2021, 08:57 PM
Sweden going gender fluid is a shocker.

Don
22-05-2021, 08:57 PM
The induced epileptic fit is the best part of this.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 09:00 PM
:cool:

Serj
22-05-2021, 09:01 PM
It's going out with a bit of a wimper with those last two.

Don
22-05-2021, 09:02 PM
Flo be tapping that hard in the hotel tonight.

Don
22-05-2021, 09:02 PM
Italy, Finland, Netherlands, France, Ukraine, Lithuania. In that order.

7om
22-05-2021, 09:03 PM
It’s been a good show, this. Some top quality songs with Cyprus, Serbia and Azerbaijan were particular standouts.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 09:06 PM
Italy, Bulgaria, France, Russia, Iceland.

Serj
22-05-2021, 09:09 PM
Bottom five Germany, Spain, Greece, Serbia and Azerbaijan.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 09:09 PM
Italy hit 3.7 shortly after they performed and was going to put money on them but hesitated and now they just keep falling. Down to 2.76 right now.

Edit: Rose back up and I got on at 3.6.

7om
22-05-2021, 09:12 PM
Is that Khloe Kardashian?

Pleb
22-05-2021, 09:14 PM
Lithuania 40/1
Finland 9/1
Serbia 200/1
Azerbaijan 150/1

4 places each way

Baz
22-05-2021, 09:37 PM
What song did Flo Rida do?

Pen
22-05-2021, 09:40 PM
I’m surprised that we are rated here. Italy were better if that shit is to go far.

Iceland were by far the best, but a shoutvout to the Dutch, Germans, Cyprus and Lithuania for my top five.

Pen
22-05-2021, 09:41 PM
What song did Flo Rida do?

San Marino. It was shit like everything else he’s ever done.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 09:42 PM
What song did Flo Rida do?

The San Marino one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtVBxZXGJNg

And Pen is right.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 09:42 PM
I've forgot about Ukraine so I've thrown them in but the odds are so low they might as well just flat out win it.

Pen
22-05-2021, 09:42 PM
Spain were by far the worst , followed by Israel and Malta.

igor_balis
22-05-2021, 09:52 PM
Obviously this was a long time ago but I'm sure when Ireland won/hosted a few on the spin they basically decided that hosting it didn't bring in enough money to be worth the hassle of winning it. It wouldn't surprise me, given the state of some of our entries, if we had much the same attitude.

Still, we'll always have Katrina and the Waves.

this is pretty much the basis of the father ted episode

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 09:57 PM
The Polish lass showing her kinks.

Don
22-05-2021, 10:03 PM
Holy shit, the Maltese whale is 18? :D

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:05 PM
The state of the jury votes.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:05 PM
lol at James Newman.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:06 PM
Why have Greece got a fucking 10 year old?

7om
22-05-2021, 10:07 PM
Why are Switzerland winning this? Fucking hell

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:07 PM
The tv votes are going to fuck this?

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:08 PM
It was always going to do well with the juries.

This is only half the votes though.

Jimmy Floyd
22-05-2021, 10:08 PM
I tuned in just in time to see us give 12 points to France. Disgusting.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:10 PM
Joanna :wub:

7om
22-05-2021, 10:10 PM
We give France 12 points and they wouldn’t piss on us if we were on fire.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:11 PM
I'm shocked with that Cyprus vote.

Shindig
22-05-2021, 10:11 PM
Would the French piss on themselves, though?

Spikey M
22-05-2021, 10:12 PM
Next year should be Nigel Farage singing "EURO CUNTS" to the tune of Land of Hope and Glory.

Don
22-05-2021, 10:13 PM
I'm confused, are all 39 countries giving jury points and then viewer votes? When tf did juries come into this, I don't remember this twist.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:14 PM
About 5 or so years ago

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:15 PM
I'm confused, are all 39 countries giving jury points and then viewer votes? When tf did juries come into this, I don't remember this twist.

Came in a few years ago.

The public vote gets combined and at the end they dish out points fewest to most.

Don
22-05-2021, 10:15 PM
Frenchie is so fucking cute and she's got one hell of a physique.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:16 PM
:D

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:23 PM
Italy are in a great position.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:29 PM
Italy should piss the public votes here.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:29 PM
Now this gets spicy.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:31 PM
France not winning the jury vote is a huge surprise as that was their way to victory.

Don
22-05-2021, 10:32 PM
Swiss guy and and Frenchie would truly make the sort of babies that would make people support genocide of the rest.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:33 PM
Newman :D

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:34 PM
He's on the Stella.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:34 PM
:roflol:

Pen
22-05-2021, 10:34 PM
Fucking hell 😄 didn’t even know it was possible to finish pointless.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:35 PM
What a start to the public votes.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:35 PM
:lol:

This is brilliant.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:35 PM
4 in a row :D

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:36 PM
4 in a row :D

It's still possible for another 0 pointer I believe.

Edit: And now it's not.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:40 PM
Scenes.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:42 PM
Boom.

Edit: Cashed out when France's vote was read out.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:47 PM
Viva Italia.

Pleb
22-05-2021, 10:48 PM
Of course we give 12 points to Lithuania :moop:

7om
22-05-2021, 10:51 PM
Why do we even participate in this? Humiliating for that James lad and he was nowhere near the worst.

niko_cee
22-05-2021, 10:51 PM
That was definitely the best example of this new voting system yet.

Don
22-05-2021, 10:52 PM
I mean he was. Germany was the only one that I'd have as clearly worse.

7om
22-05-2021, 10:53 PM
I mean he was. Germany was the only one that I'd have as clearly worse.

Oh it wasn’t great. But off the top of my head Germany, Belgium and Spain were total shit.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:54 PM
That was definitely the best example of this new voting system yet.

It's brilliant.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-05-2021, 10:54 PM
Oh it wasn’t great. But off the top of my head Germany, Belgium and Spain were total shit.

Belgium was alright but it was incredibly dull.

Germany and Spain were absolutely worse.

P_3
22-05-2021, 11:03 PM
I didn't like the Italian song, preferred Finland. Boo.

Don
22-05-2021, 11:12 PM
The French bird has Iranian blood. Explains a lot.

Lewis
22-05-2021, 11:24 PM
1396231662556618753

:lol:

Bernanke
22-05-2021, 11:40 PM
Lithuania is a banger. Get that sped up slightly and banging out in a darkened warehouse on 21 June.

Taz has always been a man of impeccable taste. :cool:

Offshore Toon
23-05-2021, 06:04 PM
No way he's doing a line. He has clenched fists for starters. Something like this seems to come up every few months on Twitter and it's always bollocks.

Shindig
23-05-2021, 06:07 PM
Yeah, it doesn't line up unless he's got a nose like a Dyson.

Bernanke
23-05-2021, 07:41 PM
It was fun to joke about but the French being pissy about it as an actual controversy is lolworthy.