Sleep Schedule

[Manc]

Is in ribbons. Tiredness isn't really kicking in till 1-2am and that's factoring in a 8am start on some days. Anyone else struggling to find a sensible pattern?

[Yevrah]

Yep, same here. Mine's utterly fucked again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dreadful. I don't want to go to bed ever (but fine getting up in the mornings).

Life basically isn't happening at the moment so I've learned to accept this as normal.

[Don]

Could have kept it in the HAY thread or even the mothership itself because it's another direct and extremely concerning consequence of this shambles.

Fuck with people's family, friends, relationships, socialising, instigating, diet, exercise, the whole lot, but nothing, NOTHING will destroy a man as effectively as fucking with his sleep. Everyone is fucked and fucked royally.

On a personal note, I've found a real drive to stay on top of exercise and diet recently which has kept me in control of sleep. It was slipping in December badly and boy did I feel the effects.

[Mellberg]

Just come off the back of 10 years of shifts. Not had one for a long time.

[Lewis]

Mine has just shifted two hours along like it did last time.

[Giggles]

I’m flat out in work so I’m wiped by 9 or 10.

[Offshore Toon]

Melatonin keeps me scheduled.

[Raoul Duke]

Mine is fine. It's tougher to get out of bed because it's cold and dark but nothing really has changed overall.

With the time I had off over Xmas though I definitely got closer to my natural sleep pattern which is bed around 2am and up about 11am. Felt great, can't wait for retirement :drool:

[Shindig]

Mine just shifted two hours, although I wouldn't mind getting my head down earlier.

[-james-]

I can't really be fucked with exercise and I'm not drinking so I'm finding it a little bit harder to get to sleep, but nothing an audiobook won't fix.

The most noticeable thing, and I had this in LD 1.0 as well, is that my dreams have become incredibly vivid and utterly mental. Brain's substitute for social interaction perhaps?

[Waffdon]

My pattern was 3/4am until 1/2pm over Christmas which was great. Now it’s back to 2am/9am which is pretty dreadful. No matter how long I sleep, I’ll never not be groggy waking up before half 10

[Don]

You wanna do the heater on 30 mins before your alarm. Wake up before the alarm 97.8% of the time.

[Ian]

I've just become accustomed to a bit more sleep which is going to annoy me if I have to go back to an actual commute.

[CJay]

I have 2 kids, so my sleep schedule has been ruined for a while now. We’ve finally got our 1yo daughter sleeping properly through the night now, so I’m getting in a decent 11-6 roughly, but I actually feel more tired and groggy than I did when I was getting up during the night.

Key for me is getting up when the alarm goes off (assuming our other early waking child hasn’t already got me up). A 30-45 minute snooze absolutely kills me until around lunchtime for some reason.

I run 3 days a week, roughly 30km in total. I can’t say I notice any better or worse sleep on those days though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My sleep schedule has and always will be fucked.

Doesn't help that I struggle to fall asleep and I feel groggy no matter when I wake up.

[Alex]

My sleep schedule is one of the few parts of my life that has improved since Covid kicked off. I think it's something to do with working from home (which I generally dislike aside from this aspect of it, actually) and knowing there's less fucking around involved in the morning. I just seem to drift off better.

[Serj]

My sleep schedule has always been terrible, the Covid measures seem to have intensified the phases when insomnia hits really hard though. At the end of December I had nights where I didn't get more than 2-3 hours.


Melatonin keeps me scheduled.

This helps. I take 3mg shortly before I go to bed, then read a bit and usually I get sleepy after 30-45 minutes.

I've also been prescribed Zolpidem for especially terrible nights. It knocks me out pretty reliably, but seems to go hand in hand with side effects ranging from drowsiness to major depressive episodes the following day, so I think I'll be staying away from that in the future.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've tried sleep medication but they become non-effective within a week for me.

[Shindig]

I've been dropping off to sleep fine but the last couple of days, I've been royally knackered. Looking forward to sleeping in on Sunday for the first time in a couple of months.

[mugbull]

I’ve had severe insomnia for years and corona has turned out to be neither a boon nor a rip. Same as before. Have a nice day

[Dquincy]

For all you folks that struggle to sleep, try exercising consistently you lazy buggers.

[Serj]

For all you folks that struggle to sleep, try exercising consistently you lazy buggers.

I do, it doesn't really change much.

[Dquincy]

Do you suffer from anxiety or anything similar?

And have you tried any herbal remedies or relaxation methods before bed? It can't be good resorting to drugs to get yourself to sleep.

[Serj]

Yes to all of the above, including meditating every evening. I'm in therapy and on anxiety meds, which is why I'm hesitant as well about taking even more drugs. Melatonin is harmless, apparently. But sometimes proper sleeping medication is the only thing that works.

[SincereTheRebel]

What is the pillow of choice these days? Im looking for new ones. Ive been told, as you get older. You really need something quite firm so im willing to go down that route.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My sleep schedule has and always will be fucked.

Doesn't help that I struggle to fall asleep and I feel groggy no matter when I wake up.

I was wrong.

My sleep schedule is no longer fucked. Generally I start feeling tired around 10pm and I'm asleep by midnight at the latest after reading a bit on my kindle. Wake up around 7-8.

Cutting Coke back, unsurprisingly, helped MASSIVELY.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What is the pillow of choice these days? Im looking for new ones. Ive been told, as you get older. You really need something quite firm so im willing to go down that route.

I use these two:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08LNH1LSH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0779KCZBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8

Second as "the base" as it's bigger and slightly firmer. Although I think I should replace it as it's nowhere near as good as the little one.

[SincereTheRebel]

Thanks. I admire adding two products together, in order to get your best results. Twice now, ive bought a super hard mattress for cheap and then used a premium super soft mattress topper. Works fantasticlly well.

[Ben]

Panda London is exceptional. I'm a big, tall guy so finding comfort has always been tricky. Just before Christmas I bought us the Panda Bamboo pillows and their mattress topper. Never slept so well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Panda Bamboo pillow is indeed great.

I had a small memory foam one as a travel pillow for a while.

Are you using the memory foam or the hybrid?

[Ben]

I didn't realise there were two types haha. Just checked my order confirmation, we've got the hybrid.

[Don]

Can you return pillows if they don't serve you well? The Hungarian Goose Down ones always feel the best when I browse in John Lewis but I've yet to replace my trusty longstanding one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Usually you can only return them if they're unopened which doesn't exactly help.

[SincereTheRebel]

But you can test out a mattress for 60 days and return them if they are not good enoguh.

[Ben]

Panda were very insistent that I could return after 30 days. We didn't need to but the offer was certainly shoved in my face.

[SincereTheRebel]

I use these two:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08LNH1LSH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0779KCZBW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8

Second as "the base" as it's bigger and slightly firmer. Although I think I should replace it as it's nowhere near as good as the little one.

You mention 'the base'. You put the pillow in bold, inside the other pillow.
Is that what you mean?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You mention 'the base'. You put the pillow in bold, inside the other pillow.
Is that what you mean?

I just mean it goes on the bottom of the two.

Little one on top.

[-james-]

I'm sure I've posted it before but I have the "TEMPUR Comfort CoolTouch™ Pillow" and I love it more than any human. Just googled for it and not sure that exact one is for sale any more, unlucky.

[Don]

I may try this Panda one if it's returnable.

Double pillowing is wild, you fucking hunchback wannabe.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I may try this Panda one if it's returnable.

Double pillowing is wild, you fucking hunchback wannabe.

One pillow just isn't enough.

I produce too much mucus in the morning if I'm not propped up enough.

[SincereTheRebel]

I just mean it goes on the bottom of the two.

Little one on top.

Oh you have them stacked up. Sounds like madness if you ask me. Your neck shape must be a complete right angle from your spine.

[SincereTheRebel]

I may try this Panda one if it's returnable.

Double pillowing is wild, you fucking hunchback wannabe.

30 night trial on the site. Ive ordered one. Link here (https://pandalondon.com/product/hybrid-bamboo-pillow/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIisKo_a-3hQMVqDLUAR1hsAYzEAAYASABEgK-3fD_BwE)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

30 night trial on the site. Ive ordered one. Link here (https://pandalondon.com/product/hybrid-bamboo-pillow/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIisKo_a-3hQMVqDLUAR1hsAYzEAAYASABEgK-3fD_BwE)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0B5XSXKKT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's cheaper on Amazon (I've ordered it too) and you still get the trial.

[SincereTheRebel]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0B5XSXKKT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's cheaper on Amazon (I've ordered it too) and you still get the trial.

Good spot

[Don]

Ill try James' too. Rotate the two with the missus, 10 days each and we can see what's what. RIP dreams of Hungarian Goose Down.

[Baz]

I used a Simba pillow for a while. It’s good in that you can add or remove the stuffing to get it as hard or soft as you like, but it never felt great. Switched to a clickbait Aelya (https://www.aeyla.co.uk) Dual one and found it loads better.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Simba one is shit.

[Clunge]

We bought some Dreams cool feel pillows when we moved a few years ago at a discounted yet still ridiculous £60 a pop and I can comfortably say they are the single worst product I have ever bought. Still using some cheap M&S stop gaps to this day.

tl;dr - loving these tips.

[Giggles]

Soft cunts.

[Manc]

I’m flat out in work so I’m wiped by 9 or 10.

Soft cunt.

[Giggles]

From the bank :D

[SincereTheRebel]

Panda London is exceptional. I'm a big, tall guy so finding comfort has always been tricky. Just before Christmas I bought us the Panda Bamboo pillows and their mattress topper. Never slept so well.

Delivered now and i will be try it in the next week or so.

[SincereTheRebel]

First night on the pillow, and it felt great. You sink into the pillow nice. Real snug. Impressed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, I enjoyed it too.

Also used it SOLO and it held up well.

[SincereTheRebel]

Been running the pillow for month and its sensational. They are now giving me 30% off on a new mattress which is tempting.

[Boydy]

How firm do you all go on mattresses?

I think mine might be contributing to/causing my back pain. It's a hybrid one with memory foam on top but it's quite soft and I sink into it a bit. I thought softer ones were meant to be good for side sleepers. It's only just under five years old so shouldn't really need replacing yet. But I wake up every morning with my back being sore and then it lessens during the day.

I slept on a very firm one last week and didn't have any pain in the mornings.

Getting old is shit.

[Spikey M]

Firm. There's nothing worse than a mattress that swallows you. all of your mothers on the other hand...

I did a home visit with an Indian bloke a couple of months ago that has slept on the floor since his wife died, 15 years ago. He still has the bed they shared. But he'll never share it again. Not even with himself.

He saw the look on my face and assured me that he "isn't crazy", which was good enough for me.

[Waffdon]

He not got a sofa? :D

[Lewis]

How firm do you all go on mattresses?

I think mine might be contributing to/causing my back pain. It's a hybrid one with memory foam on top but it's quite soft and I sink into it a bit. I thought softer ones were meant to be good for side sleepers. It's only just under five years old so shouldn't really need replacing yet. But I wake up every morning with my back being sore and then it lessens during the day.

I slept on a very firm one last week and didn't have any pain in the mornings.

Getting old is shit.

I resolved to buy a new mattress today for the exact same reasons. Leaning over to brush my teeth in the morning hurts, but by the time I'm showered it's fine, so it can't be any actual physical issue beyond a bollocks mattress.

[Boydy]

I resolved to buy a new mattress today for the exact same reasons. Leaning over to brush my teeth in the morning hurts, but by the time I'm showered it's fine, so it can't be any actual physical issue beyond a bollocks mattress.
Is yours quite soft as well?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Firm. There's nothing worse than a mattress that swallows you. all of your mothers on the other hand...

I did a home visit with an Indian bloke a couple of months ago that has slept on the floor since his wife died, 15 years ago. He still has the bed they shared. But he'll never share it again. Not even with himself.

He saw the look on my face and assured me that he "isn't crazy", which was good enough for me.

I've heard that sleeping on the floor is actually really good for you and also really aids your recovery from aches and pains.

[Lewis]

Is yours quite soft as well?

It is insofar as it's probably just knackered. I slept on a FIRM mattress for three nights in Rome that had zero give in it (and I'm reasonably heavy), and I was waking up with a dead leg and doubled over, so I think there must be sweet spot some way below that.

[Boydy]

Bought a fancy new mattress yesterday. Picking it up later in the week as I can pick it up quicker than they can deliver it.

Still need a new bed/base though. Getting one of those quickly is a right hassle. No one stocks them because they're all so customisable with colours and drawers and shit. And I don't want a bedfeame with those wooden slats as that's what I currently have and I think it's half the problem.

Mattress on the floor for a few weeks it is then.

[Mike]

Mines a medium firm and fantastic! We went to a bed shop and tried loads out and it was the best one by miles.

[Baz]

Mattress on the floor for a few weeks it is then.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdrMwXwOMq4

[Manc]

Ashwagandha is you all need.

[Magic]

Bought a fancy new mattress yesterday. Picking it up later in the week as I can pick it up quicker than they can deliver it.

Still need a new bed/base though. Getting one of those quickly is a right hassle. No one stocks them because they're all so customisable with colours and drawers and shit. And I don't want a bedfeame with those wooden slats as that's what I currently have and I think it's half the problem.

Mattress on the floor for a few weeks it is then.

Divan with as many drawers as possible for storage.

[Pen]

I've heard that sleeping on the floor is actually really good for you and also really aids your recovery from aches and pains.

As someone who semi regularly falls asleep on the floor, after calming the kids back to sleep, I can assure you it is not.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As someone who semi regularly falls asleep on the floor, after calming the kids back to sleep, I can assure you it is not.

You need to do it for a few days to a week for your body to get used to it.

[Baz]

Been running the pillow for month and its sensational. They are now giving me 30% off on a new mattress which is tempting.
Pillow still good? Might get one.