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Jimmy Floyd
28-12-2020, 11:51 PM
I know some of us are older than others but I'm looking for a list of (famous or notable) people who have been more or less a constant, doing the same thing, for as long as we can remember.

From sport, I offer:
Phil Mickelson
Roy Hodgson
Ronnie O'Sullivan

I'm not counting somebody who was a player then a manager then a pundit or whatever - I want proper constant figures doing the same job and occupying the same cultural space as they always have, without renewal or change.

From music:
Mick Jagger
Elton John

TV:
Martin Tyler
Huw Edwards (I'm sure I was around before him, but I don't remember it)
Jeremy Paxman (on University Challenge)

There must be loads in soaps or what have you. Fire away. I also want to know at what age the last constant disappears. These are all British obviously but international editions also good.

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Spikey M
28-12-2020, 11:52 PM
Your (sorry) mum.

phonics
28-12-2020, 11:57 PM
Roy Hodgson didn’t even exist in my life before he got the Fulham job or whatever it was.

Jimmy Floyd
28-12-2020, 11:58 PM
Really? I remember him from Euro 96 at minimum, and he got the Blackburn job around then so his bumbling presence has always been there for me.

phonics
29-12-2020, 12:01 AM
Motson. Dimbleby. Richard bacon. Chris Evans. The queen. Jarvis cocker. The gallaghers. Sting. Rod Stewart. Jennifer Saunders. Joanna lumley. Peggy from eastenders. Phil and grant Mitchell. Hugh Grant.

That’s off the top of my head.

Disco
29-12-2020, 12:01 AM
From whenever he went to Inter, although he was already in Switzerland by that point wasn't he?

phonics
29-12-2020, 12:03 AM
Really? I remember him from Euro 96 at minimum, and he got the Blackburn job around then so his bumbling presence has always been there for me.

This is the difference that a year or two Of age makes when you’re young. I couldn’t name anyone that wasn’t on the coins you got filling up your petrol at Sainsbury’s or whatever in 96.

Lewis
29-12-2020, 12:38 AM
I don't think you can have Elton John. He was still seen as a bit of a cunt when we were young, going around kicking off at journalists and what have you, which seems a far cry from his current elder statesman/model homosexual role.

Another for the telly though: Jeremy Clarkson

Boydy
29-12-2020, 12:41 AM
This is the difference that a year or two Of age makes when you’re young. I couldn’t name anyone that wasn’t on the coins you got filling up your petrol at Sainsbury’s or whatever in 96.

Aren't you and Jimmy the same age?

-james-
29-12-2020, 12:42 AM
Jeff Stelling on Soccer Saturday is absolutely identical to 20 years ago in my mind.

phonics
29-12-2020, 12:44 AM
Aren't you and Jimmy the same age?

Literally as I said, I think he’s a year or two older.

Boydy
29-12-2020, 12:51 AM
Literally as I said, I think he’s a year or two older.

Yes and I'm saying I think you're wrong. I'm pretty sure you're both the same age (32) /would've been the same school year (last year 2005-06) as me.

Lewis
29-12-2020, 12:52 AM
What an age cohort we've got with Sandman and GS.

phonics
29-12-2020, 12:53 AM
Even if that’s true. I’m born literally 3 days before the cut off. I’m the youngest you can possibly be instead of the oldest you can possibly be. It’s a big difference at that age.

Boydy
29-12-2020, 01:01 AM
I think Jimmy's birthday is in June. Mine is too.

I'm not having a go at you for not remembering things btw. It's fine to forget shit. I can barely remember any of Euro 96 either. Gazza's goal against Scotland is about all I remember and that might just be a fake memory because of constant replays.

phonics
29-12-2020, 01:04 AM
I know. Just saying my point. As I said, unlikeably patronising is the brand. Gotta live it.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2020, 01:10 AM
Just because we're the same age didn't mean we didn't take in different things at different times. I for example have no memory of the petrol station coins he's on about, even though I'd have seen them too.

I'm July 88.

Boydy
29-12-2020, 01:17 AM
I know! I'm not saying you should both have the same memories of childhood. I was just pointing out you're the same age.

Spoonsky
29-12-2020, 01:23 AM
TTH has seen it’s fair share of arguments, but having a debate about your own age might be a new one.

Lewis
29-12-2020, 01:24 AM
This is also overshadowing phonics' list missing the point by a million miles.

phonics
29-12-2020, 01:41 AM
Just because we're the same age didn't mean we didn't take in different things at different times. I for example have no memory of the petrol station coins he's on about, even though I'd have seen them too.

I'm July 88.

Jim are we born on the same day? 21 for me. Peas in a pod.

phonics
29-12-2020, 01:41 AM
I know! I'm not saying you should both have the same memories of childhood. I was just pointing out you're the same age.
This pointless ‘argument’ is the most Christmas thing to happen so far.

phonics
29-12-2020, 01:42 AM
This is also overshadowing phonics' list missing the point by a million miles.
Which of my list hasn’t been a constant figure in your life you fat ponce? Want a fight about it?

Boydy
29-12-2020, 01:44 AM
Is Ken Barlow still in Corrie?

phonics
29-12-2020, 01:45 AM
My mum stopped watching eastenders when dirty den came back ‘they’ve gone too far it’s just not realistic’ she said.

John Arne
29-12-2020, 04:34 AM
Er, Dario Gradi...

He took over at Crewe one year after I was born ('83) and was manager until 2007, and then 2009-2011, and then Director of Football until 2018 or summit. Left under somewhat of a cloud ��

Giggles
29-12-2020, 06:46 AM
Maybe George Hamilton or Ger Canning if I don’t think too hard. Most of the ones that I think back to are dead.

Spikey M
29-12-2020, 07:17 AM
I don't remember any of the shit you guys remember and I'm 2 years older than Jim and Phonocs. My childhood consisted of an alcoholic dad, Mr Blobby, an Iceland Lasagne for Christmas Dinner, a broken boiler, 1 gas canister heater being moved around the house and my mum fighting cancer.

My life started at about 20.

Mike
29-12-2020, 08:04 AM
https://www.leftlion.co.uk/media/4922722/alanfletcher08-zip.jpg

Kikó
29-12-2020, 08:53 AM
I think we've hit the age now (30+) where those constants are dying off.

Seeing as we are all massive fans of it - Red Dwarf is still a massive constant but like Jeff Stelling, it's noticeable when you dip back in how much older they all are now.

Surprised you forgot Attenborough as well.

Shindig
29-12-2020, 09:23 AM
I was going to put James Alexander Gordon down as 'bloke who reads the football results' but, in my memory, it's another voice.

Martin Brundle. Behind the wheel, on the grid and behind the mic my whole life.

SvN
29-12-2020, 10:15 AM
My mum stopped watching eastenders when dirty den came back ‘they’ve gone too far it’s just not realistic’ she said.

Is your mum's name Bryn?

Lewis
29-12-2020, 10:23 AM
Which of my list hasn’t been a constant figure in your life you fat ponce? Want a fight about it?

He said people 'doing the same thing, for as long as we can remember... doing the same job and occupying the same cultural space as they always have, without renewal or change'. Jarvis Cocker? Grant Mitchell has spent about six months in Eastenders this millennium.

Raoul Duke
29-12-2020, 11:07 AM
James Richardson comes to mind - since Gazetta Football Italia has been around my football consciousness.

Lewis
29-12-2020, 11:19 AM
The best bet for football is Sam Allardyce. Next season will be twenty years since he brought Bolton up, and he has lived the 'Big Sam' gimmick every day since. Players probably 'Zlatan' for similar reasons.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2020, 11:37 AM
I can't remember a time before Mike Dean was refereeing, but apparently his Premier League bow was only in 2000.

Lewis
29-12-2020, 11:48 AM
There is only ever really room for one celebrity referee, and he ultimately lost out to Howard Webb in that post-Mike Riley upheaval. Then Mark Clattenburg usurped the order of succession, which was when he suddenly started being a bit theatrical. I'm not sure he counts.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2020, 12:12 PM
Er, Dario Gradi...

He took over at Crewe one year after I was born ('83) and was manager until 2007, and then 2009-2011, and then Director of Football until 2018 or summit. Left under somewhat of a cloud ��

My old man was taught PE by Dario Gradi at grammar school in the 60s, and every time in my life that a Crewe result has been read out on classified results he has always said 'A win/loss/draw for Dodgy Dario'. You can imagine his lolling when he got found out about 50 years later.

Alex
29-12-2020, 12:23 PM
There is only ever really room for one celebrity referee, and he ultimately lost out to Howard Webb in that post-Mike Riley upheaval. Then Mark Clattenburg usurped the order of succession, which was when he suddenly started being a bit theatrical. I'm not sure he counts.

I feel like David Ellaray is still your original and best alpha male of the refereeing community. Uriah Rennie is your nearly-man. Made a play for it at one point and had cultural significance on his side, but ultimately just wasn't very good. You're right too, they're like Highlander's. There can only be one.

niko_cee
29-12-2020, 12:28 PM
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Lewis
29-12-2020, 01:36 PM
David Elleray had an actual job/professional background as well, which was fine in a league still sponsored by a brewery but he was probably retired as part of the Barclays re-brand.

Lofty
29-12-2020, 03:10 PM
Wenger at Arsenal for me, obviously gone now but the guy took the job when I was in junior school and left when I was 32.

Baz
29-12-2020, 04:51 PM
Philip Schofield?

Although he’s out of that wardrobe now.

Spikey M
29-12-2020, 05:50 PM
Why are you so interested in the sexuality of celebrities?

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2020, 05:58 PM
I've been trying to work this out, it must be something to do with accumulating search terms or directing web traffic in some way.

Disco
29-12-2020, 06:43 PM
I'm more bothered by 'wardrobe' when both closet and broom cupboard were right there.

Shindig
29-12-2020, 06:44 PM
Lorraine Kelly, assuming she still presents her own show in the mornings.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2020, 06:45 PM
She is a good one, as is Richard Madeley actually.

phonics
29-12-2020, 07:16 PM
Please. It’s the actress called Lorraine Kelly playing someone called Lorraine Kelly coincidentally.

Boydy
29-12-2020, 07:30 PM
She is a good one, as is Richard Madeley actually.

Is he still on tv?

Baz
29-12-2020, 07:57 PM
I'm more bothered by 'wardrobe' when both closet and broom cupboard were right there.
Dialect innit. I’ve never said either of those in rl.

Luca
30-12-2020, 09:51 AM
Jimmy Floyd and Lewis wasting their writing talent on The Third Half (TTH).

Baz
30-12-2020, 12:05 PM
Is this for a Werewolf game, Jimmy Floyd?

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2020, 12:07 PM
No, it's to fulfil my sense of historical curiosity.

Ian
30-12-2020, 12:23 PM
The next Werewolf game will cast everybody as celebrities and you have to find the nefarious secret gay person.

Manc
30-12-2020, 12:35 PM
:D

Sir Andy Mahowry
30-12-2020, 12:36 PM
The next Werewolf game will cast everybody as celebrities and you have to find the nefarious secret gay person.

Baz has it in the bag.

Baz
30-12-2020, 12:37 PM
phonics is sus

phonics
30-12-2020, 12:47 PM
I would be getting laid far more often if so.