Dominic Calvert-Lewin is gay

[Baz]

This is a fact that DCL himself doesn’t shy away from, often attending events with his partner, yet hasn’t felt the need to formally announce it to the world - because why should he?

I know we’ve see names idly thrown around, such as Kyle Walker-Peters and James Maddison (https://www.instagram.com/p/CDlPBzBFiq9/?igshid=138sl2wa1mje3) but there’s nothing substantial in it, and we’ve touched on the subject before but I figured a thread might be more productive.

I’d be interested to hear the thoughts of our homosexual member(s) of The Third Half, and their opinions on whether people feel football needs someone to be the spearhead in tackling homophobia (https://youtu.be/Qy1IP6Idbr8) within football, and could (there’s no should about it) Dominic Calvert Lewin be the man to get things recognised on another level.

2020 saw a massive impact to the beautiful game from a lot of things, least of all covid, including Black Lives Matter. Has this helped from an anti-racism perspective at all? It’s not for me to say, but people sure seem more aware of the cause and I’m yet to encounter anyone who has a problem with the kneeling before a game. :sorry:

And I know Hitzlsperger came out when he retired but, realistically, have only 10 gay men (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_association_football) ever played professional football? I really don’t think so. The stigma is still very real in this male dominated world, and it absolutely needs to be addressed.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is not the first footballer you have randomly declared to be gay, is it?

This is against the media/trendy tide but I don't think it would make a huge amount of difference for there to be a (single) high profile out player and for the player themselves it might even make things worse, as they would become a lightning rod for all the unpleasantness that exists. Football is a game of aggression based around angry men shouting things at each other and that isn't an environment I would want to be a social trailblazer in - it ends badly for most.

[Giggles]

Is this known, or has he just come out publicly, or has Baz just made it up for something to go on Twitter?

[Jimmy Floyd]

If his James Maddison 'link' is anything to go by then Baz's standards for declaring someone to be gay seem to be 'stand near another man and wear fancy clothes'

[Offshore Toon]

Neymar is definitely gay then.

Regardless, I've thought for a little while now that 'coming out' should only really be a thing if you've actively lived a straight lifestyle (i.e. had girlfriends). I would hope we're mostly past giving a shit about which gender people shag by now. I appreciate that we're not in many areas, but they'll catch up eventually.

[Waffdon]

Is this known, or has he just come out publicly, or has Baz just made it up for something to go on Twitter?

Pretty sure it’s made up unless his actual girlfriend is a man.

[Baz]

Is this known, or has he just come out publicly, or has Baz just made it up for something to go on Twitter?Its not made up but it’s also not “publicly known,” for lack of a better term. I explained this in the opening line. That’s by-the-bye though, I could just have easily called this thread “Gay Footballers” but I wanted to specifically ask about people’s thoughts on the need for someone to get the ball rolling in terms of tackling homophobia in ‘a game of aggression based around angry men shouting things at each other.’ (Which is, sadly, bang on - especially when it comes to [a lot of] fans.)

And the Madders pic was simply a photo of the two previous suggestions together. Honestly there’s no substance in that though, I probably shouldn’t have even included it.

[Lewis]

This is not the first footballer you have randomly declared to be gay, is it?

This is against the media/trendy tide but I don't think it would make a huge amount of difference for there to be a (single) high profile out player and for the player themselves it might even make things worse, as they would become a lightning rod for all the unpleasantness that exists. Football is a game of aggression based around angry men shouting things at each other and that isn't an environment I would want to be a social trailblazer in - it ends badly for most.

I think it would be the other end and all organisational. The fans wouldn't care (or would at least be shamed into silence), but Big Football would be all over 'The Gay Footballer', and everything they did would be framed with reference to it. Is he in the kit launch material? Why should he be? Why are the club homophobic? Picked for England. Wahey, first openly gay interna... Why haven't you picked the one openly gay... You would become one of the most famous athletes in the world overnight, and how many of them really want that?

[Lewis]

Put another way, there have been a few rugby gays, and beyond the initial coverage it never gets mentioned. Nike and the Guardian wouldn't let that happen.

[Baz]

Put another way, there have been a few rugby gays, and beyond the initial coverage it never gets mentioned. Nike and the Guardian wouldn't let that happen.Definitely.

On Football Manager (I know) if a player comes out as gay, you get one piece of news about it and then no mention of it ever again. As far as I know there’s no “field” in the players attributes assigned to ‘is gay YES/no’ and it’s literally an unimportant ‘oh by the way this happened,’ almost purely for the sake of inclusion. Whereas in reality it would probably be mentioned completely out of context by Jonathan Pearce at every opportunity, for the sake of, well, I don’t even know.

[Lewis]

I'm watching This Morning, and Phillip Schofield is noticeably camper than he used to be, so Adidas would have their man mincing round the pitch and all sorts.

[phonics]

Waking up at 6am and writing this... Baz you’re a rather unlikable weirdo.

[Shindig]

I'm going to guess the proportion of gay women footballers is a lot higher. Granted, they attract different crowds.

[Kikó]

Such a baz thread.

[Offshore Toon]

Waking up at 6am and writing this... Baz you’re a rather unlikable weirdo.
This is a very strange Christmas day post, let alone first thing Christmas morning.

[Dquincy]

Baz, is this your way of telling us about you and a particular closet?

[Don]

I do find these threads weird. Strong closet vibes from Baz.

Edit: Fuck off.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think it would be the other end and all organisational. The fans wouldn't care (or would at least be shamed into silence), but Big Football would be all over 'The Gay Footballer', and everything they did would be framed with reference to it. Is he in the kit launch material? Why should he be? Why are the club homophobic? Picked for England. Wahey, first openly gay interna... Why haven't you picked the one openly gay... You would become one of the most famous athletes in the world overnight, and how many of them really want that?

Yeah, so it would probably be both ends, and who wants that. You probably underestimate how many dinosaurs in crowds / in the street / online do care and will pepper them with abuse.

If one isn't already 'open' about their sexuality (and who ever says that of straight people) then it is presumably because one does not want the hassle.

[Lewis]

You're not going to get genuine mass crowd abuse relating to it, and for every individual saying anything on social media you would have a thousand white knights and the club condemning them like when some Arab takes aim at the rainbow laces. If - say - Luke Shaw came out, the abuse he gets would still mostly be about being fat and/or shit.

[phonics]

Ah well as long as it’s not MASS crowd abuse I’m sure it’s fine. You thinking that if it’s only a couple of hundred of people a week calling you an f word and saying you should die is proper privilege shit.

[Lewis]

You would get a few seething mongs out of thousands. If they are your concern as a professional footballer, rather than the millions of people who think you're a FRAUD for misplacing a pass, than you probably wouldn't come out under any career/life circumstances.

[phonics]

One is your job and one is your basic humanity you mong. They’re not the same thing.

[Lewis]

Does that happen in your workplace?

[phonics]

Do you think the abuse stops when the final whistle blows?

[Lewis]

That is my entire point.

[phonics]

You have no idea how vicious homophobia is. That’s fine but don’t try logic out disgusting behaviour. It’s literally irrational.

[Lewis]

What are you even reading?

[phonics]

Literally you were told you underestimate it and you said in reply that ‘it wouldn’t be that many people and if it did get to you you’re just a poof who can’t handle the heat and should quit’

[Lewis]

I don't accept that I underestimate it. What little racist abuse still remains in football is almost entirely faceless online abuse, and in a world where this (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51561987) is happening I don't see how gay footballers would be uniquely subject and/or vulnerable to personal abuse.

[phonics]

You do and you’re wrong. Sorry.

[Kikó]

Great Christmas thread.

[phonics]

Having a conservative white man tell me that these woofters need to grow a pair and man up and take their homophobic abuse is very Christmassy tbh.

[Giggles]

I haven’t read through it all but I feel safe in coming to the conclusion that it’s phonics going off the deep end despite being wrong again.

[randomlegend]

Weird fucking thread.

[Spikey M]

It started out properly weird and still somehow found a way to intensify. Well done all involved.

[Lofty]

I hope Baz has spent the day telling his loved ones the sexual preferences of a professional footballer.

[Danny]

No surprise it’s also an Everton player.

[Mellberg]

Merry Christmas lads.

[Dquincy]

So many homophobes in here. Sorry, Phonics.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did you make this thread whilst your kids were opening their presents, Baz?

[Luca]

I...you...what?

[Dquincy]

Baz, what does your boyfriend make of this?

[7om]

If I had to link a newbie to a thread that fully encapsulates TTH, it would be this one.

[Shindig]

I just imagine him waking up at 5am in a cold sweat as if he's just unravelled a grand conspiracy.

[Baz]

Nah I was having a poo.

[Lewis]

Baz mate. :o

[Ian]

Christ is it Christmas again already? Time flies.

[Smjffy]

https://i.imgur.com/jjqk5xZ.png

:cab:

[-james-]

Legend.

[Shindig]

I don't care how much money was involved. You just don't do that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The seethe is real.

[Lewis]

Tariq Nasheed will be in bits.

[-james-]

I don't care how much money was involved. You just don't do that.

Why not? It's infinitely more useful than another spiceboy clone in Balenciagas and Stone Island.

[Spikey M]

People are fuming :happycry:

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[phonics]

I don't care how much money was involved. You just don't do that.

Why? I know the answer but I’d love to watch you try talk your way around it.

[Smjffy]

I don't really care about someone's sexual preference but dressing up as a school girl at his age seems a little bit perverse. Hard drive sort of weird.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

People are fuming :happycry:

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It's mental how much some people care.

[Spikey M]

I don't care how much money was involved. You just don't do that.

Turns out you do if you want to. It's just a fella in a skirt Shinners. You'll be OK.

[Gray Fox]

If the skirt was tartan and he declared himself Scottish it would suddenly be MANLY.

[Raoul Duke]

I don't really care about someone's sexual preference but dressing up as a school girl at his age seems a little bit perverse. Hard drive sort of weird.

Gylfi has entered the chat

[Spikey M]

I don't really care about someone's sexual preference but dressing up as a school girl at his age seems a little bit perverse. Hard drive sort of weird.

Women have been doing it for nightclubs, hen do's and parties for decades.

[Smjffy]

Women have been doing it for nightclubs, hen do's and parties for decades.

I've dressed as a woman myself, twice. I won a bottle of liebfraumilch and £50 for the honour too. I just don't really understand why he'd choose to dress as a school girl. If there is even a reason for it, that is.

[Shindig]

Why? I know the answer but I’d love to watch you try talk your way around it.

It looks way too much like a school uniform to me.

[Don]

I'll be fucked if I'm backing any trans shit but until I see stronger links between this and penis shrinking pills for the mentally ill, I'm happy to back it as just big dick energy fashion choices. The Tom Davies duo photos are iconic.

[Manc]

Shinners embracing the Saudi spirit.

[Cord]

I don't think the bag goes with the rest of the ensemble.

Ballbag, obvs

[Vercetti]

Stunning and brave.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's some cloth around his legs. Read less into it.

[Yevrah]

It's funny. Dominic Calvert-Lewin in a schoolgirl outfit doesn't even register, whereas John Lewis Insurance and Partners (no less) cynically exploiting something that I doubt anyone on their board has the first clue about really did annoy me.

[Panda Bear]

remember when people refused to respect zink's pleas to stop using homophobic slurs all the time (e.g. faggot) and then he left

i like to think between my posts and Jimmy's Jimmy we've got him covered

[Giggles]

Dress away as a woman grand, nobody should really give a shit. But there’s something a bit creepy about dressing up as a schoolgirl.

[Kikó]

First they allow this then they will allow marrying dogs. Funny for those who cast the Snowflake jibe is usually the one most offended by well, personal choice.

[Lofty]

https://i.ibb.co/y60VX84/Screenshot-20211110-064618-Facebook.jpg

Did you look this good though?

[Spikey M]

It puts the lotion in the basket or it gets the hose again.

[John Arne]

Dress away as a woman grand, nobody should really give a shit. But there’s something a bit creepy about dressing up as a schoolgirl.

Yeah, that's what made me wince. Why a schoolgirl... it's a bit creepy.

[Cord]

I'm not sure there's enough overlap on the venn diagram between schoolgirls and strapping six foot male professional athlete Dominic Calvert-Lewin for it to be creepy is there?

It's just high fashion. They make everyone dress like twats, it's the rule.

[Spikey M]

Again, women have been dressing up as schoolgirls on nights out for generations. Why is it creepy when a bloke does it? Is the thinking that it means he wants to have sex with school girls? Because I wear a tie to work but I don't want to shag John Major.

[Dquincy]

If the skirt was tartan and he declared himself Scottish it would suddenly be MANLY.

What about the handbag though?

[Spikey M]

What about the handbag though?

It's a Sporran and hot pink is his families colour.

[Shindig]

I swear, every time there's a picture of Lofty, he grows another foot in height.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Because I wear a tie to work but I don't want to shag John Major.

This got me. Kudos.

[Ian]

Again, women have been dressing up as schoolgirls on nights out for generations. Why is it creepy when a bloke does it? Is the thinking that it means he wants to have sex with school girls? Because I wear a tie to work but I don't want to shag John Major.

I think the lady doth protest too much.

[Boydy]

Is it even a schoolgirl's uniform? I thought the upper half was just a shirt, tie and suit jacket.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I didn't really get the schoolgirl vibe off it. Just some idiot in 'flared shorts'. Fair play to him, but going down that road would worry me if I were a fan of his football. Not sure many players have managed to twin high fashion dickhead with still being a decent player.

[-james-]

Yeah, I didn't really get the schoolgirl vibe off it. Just some idiot in 'flared shorts'. Fair play to him, but going down that road would worry me if I were a fan of his football. Not sure many players have managed to twin high fashion dickhead with still being a decent player.

To me it seems pure Souness to think that the two might be correlated.

[niko_cee]

Of course they aren't, and the sample size is probably non-existent. Did Daniel Sturridge always have 'other interests' for the brief while he was decent? I would assume he did. Then who do we have, Stephen Ireland and his pink Range Rover?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sir Alex 'Fergie' Ferguson kicked a boot at one once, he wasn't bad.

[Spikey M]

It's actually disappointing that we haven't moved on more. 20 odd years ago he wore that Sarong but the rest of the boring cunts are still exclusively personality vacuums with the same black Range Rover.

[Giggles]

I don't think dressing like a nonce and having a personality are one and the same.

[Yevrah]

Apparently not. I have it on good authority from a London cabbie that DCL has no sense of humour whatsoever.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Being a footballer is generally not amenable to having a personality. It's a completely pre-programmed sport, robots thrive.

[Ian]

Apparently not. I have it on good authority from a London cabbie that DCL has no sense of humour whatsoever.

I find it very hard to believe that a cab driver would have anything bad to say about a black fella.

[Yevrah]

And I find it hard to believe your first thought would be to reach for the racism card.

[Spikey M]

I find it very hard to believe that a cab driver would have anything bad to say about a black fella.

"I was just saying, in another life he could be doing a different kind of shooting, but he just sat there staring at his phone. Rude he was. But... well... you know."

[Spikey M]

And I find it hard to believe your first thought would be to reach for the racism card.

When it comes to Taxi Drivers it's the automatic assumption. Just like we all know Andy and Bamster are on the tax dodge, Kiko is funding Human Trafficing and RvN has installed a microcamera in the staff toilet.

Some truths are universal.

[Ian]

And I find it hard to believe your first thought would be to reach for the racism card.

I'm not going to have to explain how jokes work am I?

Am I meant to be adding tags or something?

[Dquincy]

Both Lofty and DCL...

https://c.tenor.com/AyxkC9S0J_wAAAAC/clinton-baptiste.gif

[Kikó]

When it comes to Taxi Drivers it's the automatic assumption. Just like we all know Andy and Bamster are on the tax dodge, Kiko is funding Human Trafficing and RvN has installed a microcamera in the staff toilet.

Some truths are universal.

It helps pay the bills.

[Giggles]

Vindication for Baz.

[Lofty]

Or not. (https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/dominic-calvert-lewin-court-reason-26467502#source=breaking-news)

[Manc]

"Is it because I is black?"

[Luke Emia]

Who gives a fuck if he's gay/straight/bisexual as long as him and little arms can continue to play their role in getting the bitters relegated.

[Spikey M]

I've seen some audacity in my time, but the audacity of a Liverpool fan referring to another club as "the bitters" might be the peak.

[Luke Emia]

Everton fans just don't have the exposure of Liverpool fans. The Goodison seethe is very much real.

[Gray Fox]

Can confirm. The Goodison Seethe is imbedded into their DNA by this point.

[SincereTheRebel]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04/04/12/56198521-10683897-The_England_international_footballer_is_keen_into_ fashion-m-70_1649072599540.jpg

[niko_cee]

Looks like he's going full Kaepernick, including no longer really being a player of the sport he rose to prominence in.

[Lofty]

Yeah never mind bringing fashion back to football he's bringing the Championship to Everton.