Moments of Confusion

[Spikey M]

I'm currently sat watching 'House of Games Night' and just laughed at Jermaine Jenas calling Joanna Lumley 'Jennifer'. It then became clear that she is actually Jennifer Saunders and I'm wondering how many times I have done that over the years. French and Saunders may be the only exception, for obvious reasons.

This has taken me back to the time that I mistook Lenny Henry for Ainslie Harriott and got branded a massive racist. Good Times.

To make this a thread, unleash your brain farts upon us.

[igor_balis]

I once mistook you for a good poster. Cunt.

[ScousePig]

I keep wanting to call Caroline Quentin 'Pauline Quirk' on Strictly, even though I grew up watching her in Jonathan Creek (the best TV programme ever).

[Ian]

This has taken me back to the time that I mistook Lenny Henry for Ainslie Harriott

I opened tabs for threads in the right order because it means I came here after seeing you call me a racist in the Late Night thread.

I didn't realise it was a "takes one to know one" situation. :(

[Spikey M]

I opened tabs for threads in the right order because it means I came here after seeing you call me a racist in the Late Night thread.

I didn't realise it was a "takes one to know one" situation. :(

Pints with Laurence Fox after lockdown? We need to set the world to whites.

[Baz]

Joanna Lumley though :drool:

[Lewis]

I always forget something I meant to get when I go food shopping. #qualitythread

[igor_balis]

I always forget something I meant to get when I go food shopping. #qualitythread

I do the same except i forget stuff i already have, and end up with five unopened packets of fennel seeds. #random

[phonics]

This has taken me back to the time that I mistook Lenny Henry for Ainslie Harriott and got branded a massive racist. Good Times.

Been there.

https://i.imgur.com/mMVVaXf.png

[Jimmy Floyd]

On the Ainsley Harriott theme, back in the early 2000s I used to confuse the names of him and the disappointing boxer, Audley Harrison. I knew they were different people, but I could never remember which name was the chef and which the passive puncher.

[Spikey M]

Been there.

https://i.imgur.com/mMVVaXf.png

The bigger issue here is that date formatting. What are you doing man?

[Ian]

Pints with Laurence Fox after lockdown? We need to set the world to whites.

We'll all have a good sing-along of Fairytale of New York. Just that one line though.

[Spikey M]

We'll all have a good sing-along of Fairytale of New York. Just that one line though.

I saw that today. His relentless self-owning really is beautiful.

[Ian]

Did you see the Pogues calling him a "herrenvolk shite"?

[igor_balis]

I saw that today. His relentless self-owning really is beautiful.1304038190173614085

[igor_balis]

I love how they don't change the format at all.

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[Spikey M]

Did you see the Pogues calling him a "herrenvolk shite"?

I did. And he absolutely DONNED them by... being a mong.
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I bet he had to Google the lyrics.

[Spikey M]

1304038190173614085

:lol:

[Jimmy Floyd]

As a huge Pogues devotee who doesn't enjoy erasing history but is also a you know what, I've always felt weirdly conflicted about this particular dust-up, so it's been very handy that Fantastic Mr Fox has weighed in and confirmed where I should stand.

[Spoonsky]

Sometimes I forget I live in a different country than most of you with a totally different set of cultural references, until a thread like this pops up and I read 20 posts of incisive commentary about utterly meaningless names.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you lot don't have Fairytale of New York then it probably explains why you all machine gun each other 24/7 over Krispy Kremes.

[igor_balis]

As a huge Pogues devotee who doesn't enjoy erasing history but is also a you know what, I've always felt weirdly conflicted about this particular dust-up, so it's been very handy that Fantastic Mr Fox has weighed in and confirmed where I should stand.

The thing that swings it, as a fellow devotee, is that shane McGowan's "the lyric is just in the context of the song" defense is flimsy as fuck.

The man moaned about being beaten to xmas number one by "two queens and a drum machine" (pet shop boys cover of always on my mind is a better song so fuck off), and these lyrics from transmetropolitan are..eek.

From Brixton's lovely boulevards
To Hammersmith's sightly shores
We'll scare the Camden Palace poofs
And worry all the whores
There's leechers up in Whitehall
And queers in the GLC
And when we've done those bastards in
We'll storm the BBC

[Ian]

As a huge Pogues devotee who doesn't enjoy erasing history but is also a you know what, I've always felt weirdly conflicted about this particular dust-up, so it's been very handy that Fantastic Mr Fox has weighed in and confirmed where I should stand.

There's a post they respond in agreement to where a person I assume to also be a you know what says they don't have an issue with it being in the original lyrics or not but they take issue with people who aren't a YKW arguing bitterly in defence of it staying in. Which seems a fair stance to me.

There's also plenty of links to the Pogues performing it without saying the word in question nearly 30 years ago so either a) they were feeling this about it decades ago or b) they go with whatever is professionally expedient in which case their original ARTISTIC VISION isn't worth defending in the first place.

[igor_balis]

Plus the fucking ahh it's irish slang for lazy it doesn't mean homosexual.

Yeah, I'm sure Shane, lived in England from the age of six and studied at the fucking Westminster school in the year below dominic grieve MP, McGowan had no idea of the other connotation of the word.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I generally explain these things to myself by remembering that pre 2000 everyone (even my faves) was homophobic as fuck, and still would be today if they could get away with it.

[igor_balis]

And yes there's always cunts at the pub around Christmas that always belt out the faggot line twice as loud as the other lines when they're drunkenly singing along. They're the people pissing and moaning.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Plus the fucking ahh it's irish slang for lazy it doesn't mean homosexual.

Yeah, I'm sure Shane, lived in England from the age of six and studied at the fucking Westminster school in the year below dominic grieve MP, McGowan had no idea of the other connotation of the word.

I've always seen them as a south London post punk band dressed up as leprechauns. A bloody fantastic one, but that's what they are.

[igor_balis]

I've always seen them as a south London post punk band dressed up as leprechauns. A bloody fantastic one, but that's what they are.

Correct.

[Lewis]

I think the explanation for it sits somewhere between fruity language being a necessary part of their cod-Irish folk aesthetic and 'it was the eighties'. It should be played in its original form, but it's crap so I would rather not hear it at all, and Lawrence Fox is a complete twat, so what do I care.

[Pleb]

Ah yes the yearly "fuck you we're not playing the Pogues" from the BBC.

[phonics]

People freak out about the modern woke mob cancelling The Pogues and then You find out they’re just going to play the version without the word that they recorded in 1991...

[Spikey M]

I'm cool with any Pogues version, but if they start using the Ed Sheeran version, we riot with Lozza as our leader.

[Baz]

The thing that swings it, as a fellow devotee, is that shane McGowan's "the lyric is just in the context of the song" defense is flimsy as fuck.

The man moaned about being beaten to xmas number one by "two queens and a drum machine" (pet shop boys cover of always on my mind is a better song so fuck off), and these lyrics from transmetropolitan are..eek.

From Brixton's lovely boulevards
To Hammersmith's sightly shores
We'll scare the Camden Palace poofs
And worry all the whores
There's leechers up in Whitehall
And queers in the GLC
And when we've done those bastards in
We'll storm the BBC

So?

Sing what you want, man; if it bangs it bangs.

Skrewdriver weren't all bad, for example.

[Lewis]

I haven't heard that version.

[Spikey M]

It's the Roy Chubby Brown cover version.

[Lewis]

Three or four years just waiting for a chance
Tee-heeing at his jokes, never got a second glance

[Offshore Toon]

You should turn this thread into a series btw, Spikes. Huge potential. Moments of Panic, Moments of Joy, Moments of Madness would be a great one, Moments of Sorrow etc. Could call the series SpikeyMoments too.

[igor_balis]

Maaagic...moooooments...
When she's turned the weans against you


whistles

[Lewis]

When the snowman brings the snow
But your ex-wife tells you no
'We're at my mum and dad's; you can see her Boxing Day'
You wish the lot of them were dead
She still lives rent-free in your head
Just do your ABCs
Don't make your fragile new girlfriend pay

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

dots.

[Kikó]

I haven't heard that version.

Fucking cancel culture.