Football Manager 2021

[Mike]

As another lockdown sets in Football Manager 2021 is set to release this Tuesday and give us all something to do...


https://youtu.be/_Ixe5hHPaCQ

With an apparent list of changes, and having loved FM20, I'm excited. Shall be going Liverpool on the Beta, then I'm off to Würzburg to manage the Kickers.


https://i.imgur.com/hFQyPbU.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/5XAdFBc.png

heres a link to it on CD keys for £27
https://www.cdkeys.com/pc/football-manager-2021-pc-eu-steam

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wont be getting it for a while I don't think. THE LIST still needs to be completed and PS5 is out soon.

[Manc]

When is the full release?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

24th IIRC.

[Dark Soldier]

Will prob be out tomorrow as a beta. Cannot wait.

If you want some fun though at just how shit the game is:

https://community.sigames.com/topic/530123-fm20-experiment-goalkeeper-as-striker-in-liverpool-inspired-by-phil-jones-%E2%9C%95-paris-saint-germain/

[Raoul Duke]

Still doubling down on the media bollocks I see

[Manc]

Are they any significant changes? I'm quite content with '20.

[John Arne]

All the updates seem predominately interactions based - which is the one part of the game that I don't even get involved with. Don't think I've seen one actually interesting feature update.
I'll still buy it. #SIFanBoy

[Smjffy]

I've got it from a friend :cry: Now it's a case of refreshing like a twat at midnight, right?

[Manc]

Are they any significant changes? I'm quite content with '20.

Having done some research it would seem SI have altered the match engine greatly.

[Smjffy]

You'll have bought it anyway. :D

[Mike]

Spent the evening updating all the graphics packs. Kits being the most time consuming. No sign of Italian kits, are they just in by default.

Also, what's the best way to fix Juventus and still have leader boards. Or isn't there one. I always thought it was delete the files instructed by name fix patches, but not copy their files over. Didn't seem to work on FM20.

[Smjffy]

Will those facepacks work still, Mike?

[Mike]

Should do. Apparently they’ve changed regen faces again so hopefully they’re better.

[wullie]

Going up later tonight, unless they're doing a drum simulator

https://twitter.com/milesSI/status/1326104732868485138

[Ian]

Cadburys Advert Manager.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Has anyone ever made an RPG where you're a hard-pressed manager trying to keep the original lineup of Genesis together? I'd play that.

[Mike]

It's out.

[Smjffy]

:drool:

I was going to do Oxford City but I figured I'd just start with Wrexham instead. Unsure whether to use Touch or the full version now I have a computer that might just handle it.

*Downloading

[Manc]

Get to bed.

[Mike]

Full version if you can!

[Gray Fox]

I'm told the ME is much, much improved this year. You can actually play pretty football through the middle rather than OP full backs.

[randomlegend]

I'm told the ME is much, much improved this year. You can actually play pretty football through the middle rather than OP full backs.

If this is true it might actually tempt me to get it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I haven't got the beta for years, how wonky is it normally compared to the full version?

[Danny]

I have been watching a streamer playing this and the ME certainly does look better. A couple of goals that certainly looked like new animations. The urge to buy is rising.....as usual.

[Spikey M]

I haven't got the beta for years, how wonky is it normally compared to the full version?

It was bad enough last time I did (probably 5 or 6 years ago) that I won't bother until it's had atleast the first patch.

[John Arne]

They can be a bit dodgy. Couple of year's ago half your team would get injured every game. I've played about 10 games so far, haven't noticed anything that bad.

The worst thing is the UI, it's still heavily purple and ugly. And, for a game that is based on numbers - they keep trying to turn everything into shitty icons and bright colours.

https://gyazo.com/a114c476ac69ff344bc99f4e426add46.jpeg

What's was wrong with Condition: 80% and Match Sharpness 70%?

[Lofty]

I am a Touch peasant but assume there will be barely any improvements on that front.

[Giggles]

Last years touch was dirt and has been for a few years now. It seems forgotten.

[Vercetti]

I'm assuming this will still have a 2D pitch option?

I'm still on '19, but I'm considering taking the plunge. I normally wait for a price drop, but when I consider how many hours I end up putting into it, it seems pretty tight to be waiting six months to save a fiver.

[Lofty]

Last years touch was dirt and has been for a few years now. It seems forgotten.

Yeah just went looking for any announcement about why I should buy the new one and found a thread on the SI forums complaining about the lack of promised announcement and them pushing release back to December with lack of beta.

[Dark Soldier]

The ME is superb. Already broken the game engine, its on FMBase as 2332sirjur if you wanna try it.

Central play is now very viable and AMCs are amazing. Press conferences look great but its the same inane fluff really. Best, most conplete FM in ages though, a lot of QoL improvements.

Nuno Mendes is fucking shit hot.

[Dark Soldier]

They can be a bit dodgy. Couple of year's ago half your team would get injured every game. I've played about 10 games so far, haven't noticed anything that bad.

The worst thing is the UI, it's still heavily purple and ugly. And, for a game that is based on numbers - they keep trying to turn everything into shitty icons and bright colours.

https://gyazo.com/a114c476ac69ff344bc99f4e426add46.jpeg

What's was wrong with Condition: 80% and Match Sharpness 70%?

The removal of percentages is fantastic once you get used to it. No longer obsessing over 90% and above/below.

Makes it a bit more realistic in that you wouldn't be an irl manager, point at Rashford and go "he's 92% fit mate"

[John Arne]

The removal of percentages is fantastic once you get used to it. No longer obsessing over 90% and above/below.

Makes it a bit more realistic in that you wouldn't be an irl manager, point at Rashford and go "he's 92% fit mate"

Though that's a fair point, you could make the same argument for players attributes - we shouldn't really see those :D.

I'm just hard for numbers. Hopefully some new skins will make it look a little nicer.

[randomlegend]

The ME is superb. Already broken the game engine, its on FMBase as 2332sirjur if you wanna try it.


Is it that good if you've already 'broken' it?

[Dark Soldier]

Theyre always easy to break if you know what you're doing.

[John Arne]

Noticed any major-ish issues with the beta yet, DS?

[Dark Soldier]

Noticed any major-ish issues with the beta yet, DS?

It doesn't play nice in 4K zoomed which is my res. Some panels don't display properly.

Hoardings flash a bit too much in 2D.

Some text issues - coaches etc now need work permits, and when they get when it says 'player' when they receive it.

There's too much white on the skin.

This is a fucking mess and useless:

https://i.gyazo.com/83d384221e559dbc59eafcc955763d61.png

[Jimmy Floyd]

Their skins have been honking for about 15 years. It really needs to be light blue or something but that's probably too clinical for dear old Miles.

[John Arne]

I don't think I have ever used a default skin, they really are atrocious.

[Spikey M]

Is the beta the full game or 6 month demo bollocks? Is CdKeys still the cheapest place to get it?

You've hooked me in again you bastards.

[John Arne]

Is the beta the full game or 6 month demo bollocks? Is CdKeys still the cheapest place to get it?

You've hooked me in again you bastards.

Full game.

[Baz]

Is the beta the full game or 6 month demo bollocks? Is CdKeys still the cheapest place to get it?

You've hooked me in again you bastards.ShopTo is cheaper

[Yevrah]

Theyre always easy to break if you know what you're doing.

How do you go about doing it?

[Dark Soldier]

How do you go about doing it?

See what seems OP and then exploit it. In this version its central play and AMCs, especially a shadow striker coupled with some DLFs. Its basically first 2/3 months of season pissing about and then see what clicks.

[John Arne]

The Wannachup Instant Result skin has been released.

https://www.fmscout.com/a-wannachup-fm21-instant-result-skin.html

It also makes the main screen dark grey, rather than purple.

https://gyazo.com/91eb9efc57625c9926df436a46d69674.jpeg

[Jimmy Floyd]

Aren't logo packs a complete pain in the arse now due to Ed Woodward and his grubby mits? I find it so tedious looking at those generic ones.

[John Arne]

Nah, pretty sure you can just use FM20 logo's. I think the faces have changed, but logo's are still pretty easy.

[Dark Soldier]

I just paid a tenner to sortitoutsi about 2 years ago. They have everything.

[Yevrah]

I'm getting dragged into the room on this one.

What size/resolution laptop screen would be acceptable to play this on? I need a new one.

[Mike]

I just paid a tenner to sortitoutsi about 2 years ago. They have everything.
Same. Top site.

[Dark Soldier]

I'm getting dragged into the room on this one.

What size/resolution laptop screen would be acceptable to play this on? I need a new one.

1080p any size screen that suits ya mate, obviously smaller it is the more cramped it'll be.

I'm on 4k and its glorious.

[Yevrah]

Cheers DS.

[Dark Soldier]

https://i.gyazo.com/4de1b6d0f150a6ff3c5a83eeb3f103ad.png

New tactic :D

[Mazuuurk]

I quite would like this but I'm a little put off by the fact that they are adding even more faff around talking to players etc.

If they managed to make that into a way that it actually brought some value, fair enough. But in every game I've played so far, all those things - including "making contract negotiations more realistic" have always ended up turning into more of a chore, and the few times they make things better are when they simplify things (like thet kind of did with training, after a while).

Making "Matchday a proper event" is also bollocks. Whenever I play this I want to get as many matches in, in as little time as possible.

[Yevrah]

Given the xG's in that screenshot DS, are longshots utterly broken?

[P_3]

Nothing new. Villa did it first.

[Dark Soldier]

Given the xG's in that screenshot DS, are longshots utterly broken?

Nope. Its more xG is poorly implemented. It is their first attempt at it though, I pay it no attention.

[wullie]

The 3D match graphics seem to run much smoother and nice compared to 20, which was stop-motion juddery nonsense on my creaky PC.

[Baz]

Whew how much did Neymar cost?

[Dark Soldier]

Whew how much did Neymar cost?

£75mil, he was transfer listed end of first season for some reason :D

Barca then bought Mbappe for £180mil so PSG are shite now.

[Manc]

Are defensive midfielders now capable of notching high performance ratings?

[Dark Soldier]

Are defensive midfielders now capable of notching high performance ratings?

Yes. Camavinga is consistently 7 or above.

https://i.gyazo.com/83b234bfa929c0603342625849f9341a.png

[Baz]

How about keepers?

[Dark Soldier]

They're better. If they don't face shots then they get mid 6 ratings, but then they have to do fuck all. I've had a couple MotMs from de Gea/Donnarumma, where in previous versions I'd be lucky to get one or two all year.

[Dark Soldier]

Here it is anyway, use the 2323 formation:

https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/2332sirjur.1162/

[Mike]

The Wannachup Instant Result skin has been released.

https://www.fmscout.com/a-wannachup-fm21-instant-result-skin.html

It also makes the main screen dark grey, rather than purple.



Makes things so much better. Thanks.

[John Arne]

£75mil, he was transfer listed end of first season for some reason :D


That's good that. He's out of contract in 2022, so it makes sense that PSG would sell him summer of 2021. Finally, the FM AI making some proper decisions.

[Dark Soldier]

That's good that. He's out of contract in 2022, so it makes sense that PSG would sell him summer of 2021. Finally, the FM AI making some proper decisions.

Yep happens quite often, if players refuse to sign then clubs will list them. A streamer got Sancho for 50mil as he flat out refused to sign an extension with an underperforming Dortmund.

[Dark Soldier]

Also brought a 36yo Ronaldo back to United. 19 goals in 14 as a poacher :D

[John Arne]

I'm still getting used to the lack of positional suitability showing on the tactics screen, but I'm sure I'll get used to it soon. Also, the UI seems to be not at all catered for my stupid square laptop screen, but I'm blaming myself more than SI for that one.

[Baz]

Bloody hell that bright white inbox is harsh on the old eyes.

[Spikey M]

Riddled with problems for me, this. It took 4 restarts just for the fucker to be usable as the game was bigger than my screen. Even now I have to click a centimetre above whatever I'm trying to select.

I have no goalscorers listed at the end of each game. Just a list of minutes that the goals were scored.

XG is completely fucked as DS said. Played a 3-3 game with Liverpool and our XG's were something like 0.14 vs 0.35. I've never failed to score or concede in a game.

The transfer window seems particularly hungry. Which I like, but it runs contrary to previous versions. I put some absolute shit on the transfer list and they were all gone within 2 weeks.

I think I'm going to put it to bed until it's patched. It was just winding me up last night.

[Baz]

The only problem I have is the drag and drop when making a tactic. Kept missing the drop zone and had to do each player 3 or 4 times before it stuck. Not sure if it’s just on that screen or if the cursor is out on everything - will investigate later!

[Kikó]

Oh shit, I've found an old CM/FM story from the forum days in my emails. :cool:

One of the images attached to it is this - I'm going to have a read through, if anyone's interested I'll re-post.
https://i.imgur.com/ctXolCF.jpg

[Dquincy]

Chaps,

I'm toying with purchasing the new FM. My laptop, which was once a very good spec (I believe) is 2013 vintage. Please see it's system info/spec below. Can someone more learned than me advise if it is or is not shit by modern day standards? Should i be buying a new laptop?

https://i.imgur.com/reEdkTj.jpg

[Spikey M]

My laptop is a bog standard one (albeit new) and it runs it fine*.

*well, the game doesn't work properly, but it's not slow.

[Spammer]

I faffed about with FM20 when it got cracked but soon got bored and returned to my CM03/04 save, where I'm currently still bossing the world with THE MIGHTY BLADES, like I have been since the game came out.

The series peaked at 03/04 If you ask me. Proper balance of detail with the ability to smash a season mega quickly.

[John Arne]

I've holiday'd to Sep 2023 if anyone wants a screenshot....

[John Arne]

Players by value

https://gyazo.com/c4cb38df75d1d8dde8ea4e9bac52d425.jpeg

The best regen

https://gyazo.com/ca855f4bf0ceb07586fd5f7a2f01c5a7.jpeg

[Spikey M]

:drool: he's going to be brutal. He must have knees made of papier-mache or something to ruin it.

[John Arne]

I was looking through the England youth teams, and there are a shittonne of Middlesbrough players, so I've taken over at 'Boro. 3rd in Championship - decent squad and 8 4.5/5 star newgens.

[The Merse]

Had a fun little couple of seasons with Airdrie in the Scottish D2 to get the hang of the new features but looking for something more fun to start over with now.

Disappointed with the Arsenal data, Saka never playing, same goes for Martinelli, Maitland Niles is no longer natural in midfield (he’d be well pissed off with that), Lacazette is good... call me Matralux but that just won’t do...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Had a fun little couple of seasons with Airdrie in the Scottish D2 to get the hang of the new features but looking for something more fun to start over with now.

Disappointed with the Arsenal data, Saka never playing, same goes for Martinelli, Maitland Niles is no longer natural in midfield (he’d be well pissed off with that), Lacazette is good... call me Matralux but that just won’t do...
Are the skin tones up to scratch?

[igor_balis]

Gonna persist on fm20 as I'm too involved in this 0607 database im using. Can't utilise the most out of amazing amc jason koumas tho, any tips for good attacking mids on fm20? Especially looking at you Dark Soldier

Don't mind retraining.

[Dark Soldier]

Gonna persist on fm20 as I'm too involved in this 0607 database im using. Can't utilise the most out of amazing amc jason koumas tho, any tips for good attacking mids on fm20? Especially looking at you Dark Soldier

Don't mind retraining.

AMCs are shit on FM20 mate, never used them.

[Dquincy]

My laptop is a bog standard one (albeit new) and it runs it fine*.

*well, the game doesn't work properly, but it's not slow.

Thanks. Have you managed to sort out any of your (FM) issues? Or is it back in the box until January?

[Manc]

Gonna persist on fm20 as I'm too involved in this 0607 database im using. Can't utilise the most out of amazing amc jason koumas tho, any tips for good attacking mids on fm20? Especially looking at you Dark Soldier

Don't mind retraining.

I've had success utilising a shadow striker in the AMC spot.

[Spikey M]

Thanks. Have you managed to sort out any of your (FM) issues? Or is it back in the box until January?

I've shelved it until it's patched. I can get on board with most of the issues, but having to click a centimetre above whatever I want to click on is a no go. It makes substitutions and moving players pretty much impossible.

[Smjffy]

I can't decide who to go. I was going to start as Oxford City or Wrexham but I quite fancy starting near the top just so I can enjoy some of the players.

Any suggestions before I just LFC it?

[Baz]

I’m Spurs and my god their squad is THIN. Bought John Stones and then failed to get that Edouard from Celtic, after letting dickhead Levy do the contact negotiation, so now I’ve got 25m burning a hole in my pocket. Tbf that striker I’ve never heard of that they’ve got on loan from Benfica looks good, so might try to buy another centrehalf.

[John Arne]

I can't decide who to go. I was going to start as Oxford City or Wrexham but I quite fancy starting near the top just so I can enjoy some of the players.

Any suggestions before I just LFC it?

Espanyol. Spanish second division, 40k seat stadium, rivals with Barca.

[Spikey M]

I’m Spurs and my god their squad is THIN. Bought John Stones and then failed to get that Edouard from Celtic, after letting dickhead Levy do the contact negotiation, so now I’ve got 25m burning a hole in my pocket. Tbf that striker I’ve never heard of that they’ve got on loan from Benfica looks good, so might try to buy another centrehalf.

I started with Spurs and it's all the front 3. The rest of the squad is utter shite. To top it off I had 7 first team players out on 1 month+ injuries by October. I only had 1 centreback left and that was Dier, who may actually be worse than not having one at all.

[Dark Soldier]

https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/4123sirjur.1202/

https://i.gyazo.com/ff4d04cc2cdf75d22884bc26725a603c.png

https://i.gyazo.com/7f8421f16830850bd48b070cf35bc326.png

https://i.gyazo.com/a329868b10f33736b4bcb22f11d12779.png

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pickford :sick:

[Dark Soldier]

Pickford :sick:

:D

He's gash, can't afford anyone better.

[Danny]

I can't decide who to go. I was going to start as Oxford City or Wrexham but I quite fancy starting near the top just so I can enjoy some of the players.

Any suggestions before I just LFC it?

Has to be Wrexham now they have new owners

[Baz]

Not on FM21 they don’t, cos Miles is a mug.

[igor_balis]

Not on FM21 they don’t, cos Miles is a mug.

The gang learns to use the database editor.

[Baz]

Breaks Steam Leaderboards.

[randomlegend]

Started my annual Utd game.

Signed Camavinga and Demiral on permanent deals. Got Trincao on loan to buy.

Not sure what role to play Camavinga. Game recommends DLP but his physical attributes are so good, seems like something more dynamic might get more out of him.

[Giggles]

What is a DLP?

[randomlegend]

Deep lying playmaker

[Dark Soldier]

Camavinga is amazing as a DM DLP

[Manc]

https://footballmanager.com/features/fm21-mobile-new-headline-features

Could be the way forward.

[Giggles]

Anything would be an improvement. Mobile up to now has just been a click-through exercise.

[Baz]

FM20 is currently £8.99 on the appstore. How much is it usually when it first comes out? :eyemouth: FM21 on a 12 Pro Max might be good toilet entertainment.

[Giggles]

You should be allowed buy Touch for the max versions.

[John Arne]

The gang learns to use the database editor.

Not released until the proper release date, which i think is the 28th.

[randomlegend]

Maguire is absolute dogshit lmao.

[John Arne]

Playing in England is so crap now, with Brexit meaning you can basically only sign established foreign internationals.

[Luke Emia]

Playing in England is so crap now, with Brexit meaning you can basically only sign established foreign internationals.

I played 18 months with Liverpool and the biggest issue I noticed was with staff. It's nigh on impossible to get decent scouts.

[randomlegend]

Playing in England is so crap now, with Brexit meaning you can basically only sign established foreign internationals.

Can you still get round it by offering absurd transfer fees and wages?

[Dark Soldier]

You can sign anyone - it has a bug where most players will be refused a work permit on initial transfer but on appeal 3 months later they get accepted. I had 18 year old Brazilian nobodies getting them.

[John Arne]

Ah, I never bother appealing. Perhaps I should if that's the case (at least until it's fixed in a patch).

[Baz]

Regen face thingy: https://www.fmscout.com/a-fm21-better-regen-faces-fifa-edition.html

That script it links to seems a bit too longwinded/random to bother with, mind.

[Dark Soldier]

The game is fundamentally broken

https://i.gyazo.com/df45463d164762acc4a1dee9ce044397.png

[Ian]

I saw your earlier post about playing it through the middle being the thing. Is spaffing it through the middle for a pacey finisher to run onto a game-breaker again?

I'm not gonna play the game, the idea of that just brings back happy memories of Hernandez scoring me a billion goals in FM11 or 13, whichever it was.

[Dark Soldier]

I saw your earlier post about playing it through the middle being the thing. Is spaffing it through the middle for a pacey finisher to run onto a game-breaker again?

I'm not gonna play the game, the idea of that just brings back happy memories of Hernandez scoring me a billion goals in FM11 or 13, whichever it was.

In a nutshell, yes. They've made attacking interplay so good this year that defences struggle against anything highly attacking, primarily 3 striker formations. Get 3 front man with pace/acceleration above 14 and you're gonna score for fun.

[Baz]

I smashed WBA 6-0 and then lost 3-1 to some Serbian farmers with only one real player, with all of their goals coming from a counterattack. At least I’ve not gotta worry about the Europa League, I guess.

[Spikey M]

In a nutshell, yes. They've made attacking interplay so good this year that defences struggle against anything highly attacking, primarily 3 striker formations. Get 3 front man with pace/acceleration above 14 and you're gonna score for fun.

My Crystal Palace are currently top of the league using your tactic. :D

[Dark Soldier]

My Crystal Palace are currently top of the league using your tactic. :D

Its mental ain't it, its basically Fifa. Pace trumps all :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pace being king has been the norm for ages now though, especially in lower divisions.

[Dark Soldier]

Yeah but its ridiculous this year.

[randomlegend]

The Utd board will seemingly sign anyone for you who fits the high potential youngster profile.

They got Camavinga and Demiral in the summer for me. In November I clicked onto Haaland's transfer offer page to see what his release clause is and the 'ask board to negotiate transfer for you' thing was there so I tried my luck and they've arranged a deal for January.

[Manc]

So the game is fundamentally broken.

[Lofty]

FMT on Android and IOS hopefully taking a leaf out of the Xbox feature announcement of 5 nations (10 on next gen).

[Mike]

https://i.imgur.com/uldBqLq.png

What a guy!


Are we down to just one Brexit option now? I got this:
https://i.imgur.com/ZcwInAK.png

[Gray Fox]

Hard Brexit is the only Brexit.

[Dquincy]

Can anyone tell me if this is a decent spec for a laptop? Considering ditching my FM11 career (currently in 2069) for FM21.

Intel Core i3-1005G1 1.2GHz
8GB RAM + 256GB SSD
15.6" FHD Display
Integrated Intel UHD Graphics
Windows 10 Home

[Gray Fox]

What kind of budget do you have?

[Dquincy]

What kind of budget do you have?

Ideally I do not want to spend over £500.

Is the spec I sent you sub par?

[Spikey M]

It probably isn't the spec anymore. They all get slower over the years. Personally I'd just try it. If it's too slow then get a new laptop, you can install it on the new one from your Steam Library anyway.

[Dquincy]

Probablem is my current laptop struggles with FM11. The fan inside goes nuts and it runs quite slow. Albeit could be due to the amount of data stored from nearly 60 seasons.

[Manc]

Opt for Touch.

[Spikey M]

Touch is shit.

[Baz]

60 seasons :D

[Dquincy]

Think I'll wait for cyber Monday to see if any good deals pop up on laptops.

[Dquincy]

60 seasons :D

I'm back at Ayr Utd after a successful stint at Parma. Was going to post some updates, but not sure if it's worth it.

Hoping to finally win the Scottish Premier at some point. Board still won't increase or build a new stadium.

[Gray Fox]

Ideally I do not want to spend over £500.

Is the spec I sent you sub par?

For £500 you can get one of the newer Ryzen 5 CPUs (https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-MateBook-2020-Multi-Screen-Collaboration/dp/B085YM9K63/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=laptop&qid=1605873010&refinements=p_36%3A428448031&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFKOE5CWENITE1FUTkmZ W5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA0MDc2MDIyQkJTUlQxUkdCR0pTJmVuY3J 5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5NDkyODQ2MEtETVNIVjQ3Tzkmd2lkZ2V0T mFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3R Mb2dDbGljaz10cnVl) or get that i3 turned into an i5 or maybe an i7 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-EliteBook-Ultrabook-i7-4600U-Professional/dp/B07VSZ9TSZ/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=laptop&qid=1605873036&refinements=p_36%3A428448031&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sr=1-6)

The game does run pretty smoothly compared to the older days now though, so the one you linked would be fine to play it on most likely. I'd just maybe opt to spend that bit more if you plan on playing for 50+ years again personally.

[Spikey M]

I'm back at Ayr Utd after a successful stint at Parma. Was going to post some updates, but not sure if it's worth it.

Hoping to finally win the Scottish Premier at some point. Board still won't increase or build a new stadium.

How old is Ronaldo and who is he playing for now?

[Dquincy]

How old is Ronaldo and who is he playing for now?
I can't find him on the game anymore. Tbf, he'd be 84 yrs old on the game, so a good chance he died.

Edit: I'm pushing 85. How on earth am I running training sessions at that age...

[Dquincy]

For £500 you can get one of the newer Ryzen 5 CPUs (https://www.amazon.co.uk/HUAWEI-MateBook-2020-Multi-Screen-Collaboration/dp/B085YM9K63/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=laptop&qid=1605873010&refinements=p_36%3A428448031&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFKOE5CWENITE1FUTkmZ W5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA0MDc2MDIyQkJTUlQxUkdCR0pTJmVuY3J 5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA5NDkyODQ2MEtETVNIVjQ3Tzkmd2lkZ2V0T mFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3R Mb2dDbGljaz10cnVl) or get that i3 turned into an i5 or maybe an i7 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-EliteBook-Ultrabook-i7-4600U-Professional/dp/B07VSZ9TSZ/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=laptop&qid=1605873036&refinements=p_36%3A428448031&rnid=428432031&s=computers&sr=1-6)

The game does run pretty smoothly compared to the older days now though, so the one you linked would be fine to play it on most likely. I'd just maybe opt to spend that bit more if you plan on playing for 50+ years again personally.

Thanks. Very helpful.

[Spikey M]

I can't find him on the game anymore. Tbf, he'd be 84 yrs old on the game, so a good chance he died.

Edit: I'm pushing 85. How on earth am I running training sessions at that age...

Woy Quincy. :cool:

[Reg]

How are the AI transfers on the new version? I'm on FM19, and they're not the most logical.

[Dark Soldier]

How are the AI transfers on the new version? I'm on FM19, and they're not the most logical.

A bit better but you still get times where Real will spend 400mil on attackers then sell all LBs or summat

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's not that outlandish.

[Spikey M]

I'm currently finding it impossible to get rid of Andros Townsend and Max Meyer despite being willing to take half their value and Dann and Benteke can't be given away. Take that how you will.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm trying to get into this but the skin is like being in the cheap nightclub from hell. Any hints of an alternative?

[Mike]

https://www.fmscout.com/a-wannachup-fm21-instant-result-skin.html

[Ian]

I'm currently finding it impossible to get rid of Andros Townsend and Max Meyer despite being willing to take half their value and Dann and Benteke can't be given away. Take that how you will.

So, every FM for at least a decade then? Admittedly I've not played in the last few years but I can't remember the last version I did where it was easy to actively sell players for a reasonable price, even decent ones. The CPU will, of course, throw money at each other for any old tat.

[Reg]

Thanks all re. the transfers. Yeah, I’ve always found it hard to sell when other teams know you want rid. Have got some very good offers on 19 when I haven’t actively been looking to sell, though.

[Smjffy]

Has to be Wrexham now they have new owners

Aye. That's who I chose. I deactivated the first transfer window so no one has been brought in as of yet and I'm a few weeks away from getting my first youth intake so I'm not too sure to do a YDWAWK one or just see how far I can take them.

https://i.ibb.co/HDXgrK7/wrex.png

It's going to take a collapse to not reach the playoffs at least. We made it to the 4th round of the FA Cup too but Crystal Palace knocked us out 2-0. We'd dumped Sunderland out in the 3rd round however in some emphatic style. :drool:

Should have the whole season done in the next day or so. It's not so easy to rattle out the seasons as of yet but it'll come.

[mugbull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRcjkRKbLE

Ignore the cringy American-ness but a group of people managed to get the GAN stuff working flawlessly for newgen faces. This is literally what will make me buy an FM for the first time in 5 years

[Raoul Duke]

It's bonkers that SI didn't spot the potential of this and do it first. Such a great use of this kind of tech.

[Lofty]

Zealand is actually pretty good as an FM Youtuber.

Is Brexit as bad as everyone says on this version?

[John Arne]

Zealand is actually pretty good as an FM Youtuber.

Is Brexit as bad as everyone says on this version?

I was just about to say the same. Zealand is a decent Youtuber, and definitely better than the UK guys who just do shitty Experiment videos this time of year.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I watched a load of his videos while playing FM19 earlier in the year and trying not to be shit. It's all great stuff until he starts commentating on games in a British accent, although even that is lol in its own way.

[Lofty]

Yeah his commentary is a bit dodgy but he is apparently trying to make a career of it, not using that accent, so good luck to him.

[mugbull]

Usually I think Brits shitting on Americans comes from a latent feeling of inferiority, but this guy is really unbearable. He would be good if he stopped trying to be funny and whimsical

[Spikey M]

It comes from a place of being reserved / emotionally crippled. Americans are the opposite and seem completely over the top and insincere as a result. It's just a culture clash.

[igor_balis]

I was just about to say the same. Zealand is a decent Youtuber, and definitely better than the UK guys who just do shitty Experiment videos this time of year.

Yeah that golden fm guy seems like a nice bloke and had decent ideas but for someone who has clearly played for years he's borderline incompetent at the game at times. I could live without him doing yet another team of Ronaldos vs a team of messis etc.

[Mike]

Big Zealand fan here.

[Dark Soldier]

Just had five goals disallowed in one match, lost 4-3. Lovely.

https://i.gyazo.com/a4a3a0934a4e16e17b6e9997580a83a0.png

[Dark Soldier]

Is Brexit as bad as everyone says on this version?

You can just turn it off with a file.

[Raoul Duke]

Is Brexit as bad as everyone says on this version?

Also in real life

[Smjffy]

Wrexham - 2020/2021

League

The media predicted a 16th place finish but as is often the case, they were wrong as we topped the table at the turn of the year and never once relinquished our position. We were were seven points clear of 2nd place at one stage yet a combination of injuries and a few daft defeats saw us go into the final day of the season still needing a draw to guarantee the title.

We never got it as we succumbed to a 4-2 defeat at home to Torquay, our 3rd defeat in our final five matches but thankfully (and perhaps rather deservedly) Hartlepool were held to a 1-1 draw so we claimed the title regardless. Hartlepool themselves only got back in it by being one of those three defeats as they took all three points a few weeks earlier in a 5-4 loss.

We had a few high scoring games during the season but none more so than the 8-5 win against Bromley. Leading 5-3 at half time, we found ourselves level with 7" minutes to play...a late flurry handing us the win.

https://i.ibb.co/pP79pzZ/wrex.png

Domestic Cups

FA Cup

Always a fan of some cup magic, we knocked Bradford PA out in the qualifying rounds with a 1-0 win in extra time to set up a first round encounter with Aldershot Town. Another 1-0 win followed leading us to a second round tie against Scunthorpe. Although we took a 2-0 lead we were again level as we heading into extra time but up stepped Adi Yussuf our Tanzanian winger to steal the win and set up a potential money spinning 3rd round appearance.

No Premier League outfit but a former one at least as we drew League One side Sunderland and the magic of the FA Cup was about to spark into life. 0-0 at half time in a closely fought game at The Racecourse Ground, we were holding our own before The Mackem's took the lead through C.Maguire from the penalty spot. Not to be downhearted we responded almost immediately as our top scorer Jordan Ponticelli levelled the score line. 46 goals in 54 appearances for the forward, 38 of which arrived in the league as he showed his quality throughout the season and throughout this match itself as he grabbed a second not long after putting us 2-1 up. Sunderland hit back through L. O'Nien. The scoring wasn't done though as Sanderson put in his own net to give us a 3-2 lead with just five minutes to go....five very long minutes...followed by another five minutes stoppage time and it was in the final seconds of that, that Sunderland once again levelled the scores. Maguire's shot coming off the post hitting our goalkeepers Lainton's back and ensuring extra time would be needed. 3-3.

Power struck first for Sunderland 3-4, Ponticelli grabbed his third, 4-4 and then Thomas scored a worldy with four minutes to spare! 5-4! Giant killing?! Not quite as one minute to go saw Power again level for Sunderland to take it to a penalty shoot out.

But we won that, 4-2. :cool:

This set up a fourth round tie against Crystal Palace, again at The Racecourse Ground but that was where our involvement ended as we were dispatched 2-0 in relatively easy fashion.

FA Trophy

We dumped Stalybridge Celtic out with a whopping 8-0 win to set up a fourth round tie against Barnet, extra time was needed but a 4-3 win eventually proved enough. Bromley came up in the 5th round and again we made hard work for ourselves but proved victorious by 3 goals to 2 thus setting up a quarter final encounter with Yeovil Town. I expected a little more from them but our 3-1 success was a doddle and could have been a lot more. Silverware en route? Not quite. Stockport County knocked us out of the semi finals 2-1 thus rendering the entire experience pointless.

Next Season

We're going to have to delve into market for the first time but I want to do so by bringing in youngsters as YDWAWK isn't really up my street on this particular save and I want top flight football sooner rather than later so I anticipate an overhaul of the squad, bringing in quality where we were lacking and generally tidying up the club as a whole as I didn't really pay much attention to anything other than the next match during this first season. Not much point going too deep with these updates until we're a little more settled, really.

We had our youth intake which was as you'd expect at this level but I signed them all to contracts regardless. We made £1.6M profit throughout the season so we have a little bit of leeway moving into League Two however it's me and I'm rather prodigal when it comes to virtual funds so if I have to spend in order to succeed then so be it.

Side note. I quite like the end of season stuff on this. I just don't like the fact you get it all before the playoffs have even finished.

[Spikey M]

I started a game with England U19's last night and I don't get how I'm meant to do it. How do you get knowledge about the players in your national pool? I can't hire scouts. There are scouting responsibilities in place for my assistant manager and coaches but they don't seem to be returning a whole lot of info. I'm a year in and my national pool has star ratings for about 4 players. 2 of which have already been capped at higher levels.

[John Arne]

I started a game with England U19's last night and I don't get how I'm meant to do it. How do you get knowledge about the players in your national pool? I can't hire scouts. There are scouting responsibilities in place for my assistant manager and coaches but they don't seem to be returning a whole lot of info. I'm a year in and my national pool has star ratings for about 4 players. 2 of which have already been capped at higher levels.

For international management, the key in FM20 was to go to the player search and just filter players eligible for England, then highlight them all and add them all to your National Pool. You can then edit the National Pool view to include 'Ability', 'Potential', 'Squad' (current England squad (main/U21/U19 etc).

[John Arne]

Looks like the Thai (Thigh) researcher got a little carried away...


https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/47/7/1606060592-but.png

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/47/7/1606060634-but.png

[Baz]

You play FM in foreign?

[John Arne]

You play FM in foreign?

No :D. Stolen from elsewhere.

[Smjffy]

Wrexham - 2020/2021


League

The media predicted a 16th place finish but as is often the case, they were wrong as we topped the table at the turn of the year and never once relinquished our position. We were were seven points clear of 2nd place at one stage yet a combination of injuries and a few daft defeats saw us go into the final day of the season still needing a draw to guarantee the title.

We never got it as we succumbed to a 4-2 defeat at home to Torquay, our 3rd defeat in our final five matches but thankfully (and perhaps rather deservedly) Hartlepool were held to a 1-1 draw so we claimed the title regardless. Hartlepool themselves only got back in it by being one of those three defeats as they took all three points a few weeks earlier in a 5-4 loss.

We had a few high scoring games during the season but none more so than the 8-5 win against Bromley. Leading 5-3 at half time, we found ourselves level with 7" minutes to play...a late flurry handing us the win.

https://i.ibb.co/pP79pzZ/wrex.png

Domestic Cups

FA Cup

Always a fan of some cup magic, we knocked Bradford PA out in the qualifying rounds with a 1-0 win in extra time to set up a first round encounter with Aldershot Town. Another 1-0 win followed leading us to a second round tie against Scunthorpe. Although we took a 2-0 lead we were again level as we heading into extra time but up stepped Adi Yussuf our Tanzanian winger to steal the win and set up a potential money spinning 3rd round appearance.

No Premier League outfit but a former one at least as we drew League One side Sunderland and the magic of the FA Cup was about to spark into life. 0-0 at half time in a closely fought game at The Racecourse Ground, we were holding our own before The Mackem's took the lead through C.Maguire from the penalty spot. Not to be downhearted we responded almost immediately as our top scorer Jordan Ponticelli levelled the score line. 46 goals in 54 appearances for the forward, 38 of which arrived in the league as he showed his quality throughout the season and throughout this match itself as he grabbed a second not long after putting us 2-1 up. Sunderland hit back through L. O'Nien. The scoring wasn't done though as Sanderson put in his own net to give us a 3-2 lead with just five minutes to go....five very long minutes...followed by another five minutes stoppage time and it was in the final seconds of that, that Sunderland once again levelled the scores. Maguire's shot coming off the post hitting our goalkeepers Lainton's back and ensuring extra time would be needed. 3-3.

Power struck first for Sunderland 3-4, Ponticelli grabbed his third, 4-4 and then Thomas scored a worldy with four minutes to spare! 5-4! Giant killing?! Not quite as one minute to go saw Power again level for Sunderland to take it to a penalty shoot out.

But we won that, 4-2. :cool:

This set up a fourth round tie against Crystal Palace, again at The Racecourse Ground but that was where our involvement ended as we were dispatched 2-0 in relatively easy fashion.

FA Trophy

We dumped Stalybridge Celtic out with a whopping 8-0 win to set up a fourth round tie against Barnet, extra time was needed but a 4-3 win eventually proved enough. Bromley came up in the 5th round and again we made hard work for ourselves but proved victorious by 3 goals to 2 thus setting up a quarter final encounter with Yeovil Town. I expected a little more from them but our 3-1 success was a doddle and could have been a lot more. Silverware en route? Not quite. Stockport County knocked us out of the semi finals 2-1 thus rendering the entire experience pointless.

Next Season

We're going to have to delve into market for the first time but I want to do so by bringing in youngsters as YDWAWK isn't really up my street on this particular save and I want top flight football sooner rather than later so I anticipate an overhaul of the squad, bringing in quality where we were lacking and generally tidying up the club as a whole as I didn't really pay much attention to anything other than the next match during this first season. Not much point going too deep with these updates until we're a little more settled, really.

We had our youth intake which was as you'd expect at this level but I signed them all to contracts regardless. We made £1.6M profit throughout the season so we have a little bit of leeway moving into League Two however it's me and I'm rather prodigal when it comes to virtual funds so if I have to spend in order to succeed then so be it.

Side note. I quite like the end of season stuff on this. I just don't like the fact you get it all before the playoffs have even finished.


Wrexham - 2021/2022

League

We were expected to finish rock bottom if the media were to be believed but it's long been broken and I was pleasantly surprised at how easily we adjusted and we never dropped from top spot from the end of January. In fact the lowest we'd been all season was 4th on the opening day of the season.

https://i.imgur.com/H4Uu6v4.png

No doubt we were helped by two of our three strikers.

https://i.imgur.com/NpKEn9z.png

Jordan Ponticelli grabbing 28 league goals, 32 overall in 39(2) appearances which was the same as his new striker partner scored overall to too albeit he'd played more games.

https://i.imgur.com/Rf6jr5E.png

Aramide Oteh was released by QPR at the end of the season and some suggested it was a pointless signing given he'd spent that season on loan to Stevenage also of League Two and mustered a grand total of no goals but he returned with vengeance and gave the entire division a bit of a kicking.


Other Transfers.

Kallum Cesay - Released by Tottenham he was a regular and at 19 looks more than capable of doing the business in League One.

Max Robson - Released by Tottenham and although he was a regular starter, he only managed the one goal.

Ramarni Medford-Smith - Released by Reading but ultimately a bit part player.

Regan Booty - Released by Notts County and started off well enough but a decent option coming off the bench.

Mohammed Sangare - Released by Newcastle and generally useless considering he's an international player for Liberia.

Jake Cain (Liverpool), Jay Stansfield (Fulham) and in the January window Josh Thomas (Swansea) - All loaned although Jurgen Klopp wasn't too happy I wasn't playing Cain where he wanted him to play so texted me moaning, we agreed he'd go back to Anfield and because I'm bitter like that, I cancelled the clubs affiliation with Liverpool.

FA Cup

No magic this time round as we conceded in the final seconds to be dumped out by Coventry City.

https://i.imgur.com/E4jkpTK.png

Carabao Cup

Same as above really as Blackpool done us over on penalties although we were fortunate to have even got that far as it was a late flurry that gave us any hope at all.

https://i.imgur.com/DM0qhCJ.png

EFL Trophy

https://i.imgur.com/HVB3QNV.png

Well, it is what it is, isn't it.

Next Season

We're going to raid the Premier League clubs for more released players I'd imagine and tidy up the club which was something we failed to do as expected last year but with a few additions I think we'll be more than competitive in League One and succeed in getting to the Championship relatively quickly. We need to for the finances as although we have £2.4M in the bank, we made a loss of £1.3M in the final month of the season owed most in part to upgrading youth facilities which will be completed by the end of the upcoming season. We only made a £200,000 loss all season according to the summary though so that's not too bad given my form.

Bed time.

[randomlegend]

Got Donnaruma coming in on a free in the summer.

Challenge will be trying to foist Dave Gayer off one someone.

Juventus' centre back situation is ridiculous, Demiral and De Ligt are the two best young centre backs in the game. I've already had Demiral off them, will be going back for De Ligt this summer.

[John Arne]

Changing the way to make a quick sub really is stupid. It's so weird to select an outfield player, without seeing your subs quickly. I now don't use it at all - and just end up going to the main tactic screen.

[Smjffy]

Wrexham - 2021/2022

League

We were expected to finish rock bottom if the media were to be believed but it's long been broken and I was pleasantly surprised at how easily we adjusted and we never dropped from top spot from the end of January. In fact the lowest we'd been all season was 4th on the opening day of the season.

https://i.imgur.com/H4Uu6v4.png

No doubt we were helped by two of our three strikers.

https://i.imgur.com/NpKEn9z.png

Jordan Ponticelli grabbing 28 league goals, 32 overall in 39(2) appearances which was the same as his new striker partner scored overall to too albeit he'd played more games.

https://i.imgur.com/Rf6jr5E.png

Aramide Oteh was released by QPR at the end of the season and some suggested it was a pointless signing given he'd spent that season on loan to Stevenage also of League Two and mustered a grand total of no goals but he returned with vengeance and gave the entire division a bit of a kicking.


Other Transfers.

Kallum Cesay - Released by Tottenham he was a regular and at 19 looks more than capable of doing the business in League One.

Max Robson - Released by Tottenham and although he was a regular starter, he only managed the one goal.

Ramarni Medford-Smith - Released by Reading but ultimately a bit part player.

Regan Booty - Released by Notts County and started off well enough but a decent option coming off the bench.

Mohammed Sangare - Released by Newcastle and generally useless considering he's an international player for Liberia.

Jake Cain (Liverpool), Jay Stansfield (Fulham) and in the January window Josh Thomas (Swansea) - All loaned although Jurgen Klopp wasn't too happy I wasn't playing Cain where he wanted him to play so texted me moaning, we agreed he'd go back to Anfield and because I'm bitter like that, I cancelled the clubs affiliation with Liverpool.

FA Cup

No magic this time round as we conceded in the final seconds to be dumped out by Coventry City.

https://i.imgur.com/E4jkpTK.png

Carabao Cup

Same as above really as Blackpool done us over on penalties although we were fortunate to have even got that far as it was a late flurry that gave us any hope at all.

https://i.imgur.com/DM0qhCJ.png

EFL Trophy

https://i.imgur.com/HVB3QNV.png

Well, it is what it is, isn't it.

Next Season

We're going to raid the Premier League clubs for more released players I'd imagine and tidy up the club which was something we failed to do as expected last year but with a few additions I think we'll be more than competitive in League One and succeed in getting to the Championship relatively quickly. We need to for the finances as although we have £2.4M in the bank, we made a loss of £1.3M in the final month of the season owed most in part to upgrading youth facilities which will be completed by the end of the upcoming season. We only made a £200,000 loss all season according to the summary though so that's not too bad given my form.

Bed time.


Wrexham 2022/2023

League

A third successive promotion and into the Championship we go although it was a little gutting to miss out on the title itself but given we never returned to the top after being knocked off it on 2nd February, we can't complain too much. Our last game of the season saw ourselves face Fleetwood and if we avoided defeat we'd go up automatically so the 3-0 win was welcome.

Some big wins throughout the campaign, 5-1 against Wigan, 5-3 against Ipswich, 5-4 again Charlton and an absolute joke of a match in beating Preston 7-5, all away from home but our 10-4 win at home to Doncaster really took the biscuit. A hattrick of hattricks though....

https://i.imgur.com/FrMhKp6.png

:drool:

Our total of 115 league goals was a record but we also had the worst defensive record in the league....madness.

Such an outlay in goals meant it was no surprise that we had at least one of the leagues top scorers, as it is though, we had the top three.

https://i.imgur.com/2MzJBiV.png

Promotion is promotion though.

https://i.imgur.com/wEaU4s0.png


FA Cup

We knocked out Colchester 6-2 in the first round and followed that up with home wins against Hartlepool (4-1) and MK Dons (1-0) so to reach the fourth round I had hoped for a money spinning draw but instead it turned out to be a bit of a north v south encounter as we were knocked out by Cardiff of all teams.

https://i.imgur.com/5Drwxku.png

EFL Cup

Scraped through the first round against Accrington Stanley on penalties after a 2-2 draw, Port Vale were seen off in the second but Premier League side Wolves showed their quality in the third and sent us packing.

https://i.imgur.com/Mf0kaB6.png

EFL Trophy

We actually faced the Wolves U23's in the group stage but were undone 3-2 but we did enough to qualify from it after wins against Bradford City and Grimsby Town. Leeds United U23's came in the second round and we dispatched them 3-0, Fleetwood were dumped out 4-0 in the third round and then I anticipated being knocked out by Arsenal U23's in the quarter finals, as it was we won 4-2 to set up a semi final against Man United U23's. I was a little gutted in the end. :moop:

https://i.imgur.com/R7RnPd7.png

Next Season

We've got a whole host of players who are due to leave as we won't renew their contracts and a decent sized transfer budget of £4,000,000 to play with. We've finally opted for one of the scouting packages so I hope we find one or two gems as we relied heavily on loan deals from our new feeder club Man City this season. Now it's going to get a bit fun though I'd imagine.

I want to finish as close to the play offs as possible so we just rapidly jump from Vanarama Conference to the Premier League but I sense this is where it gets a little trickier. I've been surprised at how little I've actually had to do overall. I'll do a squad update before we kick off the upcoming campaign but so far so good.

[Dark Soldier]

Using my tactic Smiff?

[Smjffy]

Using my tactic Smiff?

You bet your ass I am . :drool:

I tried tinkering with the two AM's as the amount of goals I concede is a joke but the DLP/AP experiment failed, so I put them back, then I tried dropping the poacher in place of a second DM but again it didn't really have the desired result. I think those five attacking players are absolutely vital so when I upgrade I imagine I'm going to absolute crucify teams.

Scouts are relatively useless and they say most my players are League Two standard and looking at their attributes, it's hard to disagree.

Rees Plant, a freebie from TNS for example bundled in 30 in 45 games in his debut season and right now he's got major interest from Premier League clubs.

https://i.imgur.com/9YiUeSp.png

Zanzala and Oteh aren't exactly anything special but all three just plunder in the goals.

https://i.imgur.com/aVPtJvf.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/lfTUQEZ.png

It's a beast of a tactic, DS.

[Dark Soldier]

Try the newer one, 4123sirjur, more stable at the back in comparison mate.

[Smjffy]

:D Imagine my surprise when the game updated and I saw who was in the Championship.

https://i.imgur.com/LiEjHIL.png

[Mike]

https://i.imgur.com/bOzu5sq.png

Here we go!

[igor_balis]

Lads, rather than getting fm every season and winning every game with a downloaded tactic you can just gimme a fiver and I'll message you saying "yeah you won the league 20 seasons in a row, nice one"

[Smjffy]

Lads, rather than getting fm every season and winning every game with a downloaded tactic you can just gimme a fiver and I'll message you saying "yeah you won the league 20 seasons in a row, nice one"

This particular version has provided me more enjoyment in the 35 hours game time than you've provided in over five years so I'd suggest yours is a bad deal.

[Mike]

I’ve never used a downloaded tactic.

[Smjffy]

I’ve never used a downloaded tactic.

I use them a lot but by time I'm deep into a save it rarely resembles what I started with. I'm not really sure what igors point actually is regardless.

[Spikey M]

Exactly the same as Mike's, but with 5 times more words than were needed and the obligatory head being shook at pop culture.

[mugbull]

I read that the game has a bug where you run out of regens in like 20 seasons, beware lads

[Spikey M]

I'm 8 years into an International management save ffs

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Don't worry, I'm sure Miles will fix it ASAP.

[Smjffy]

:D Imagine my surprise when the game updated and I saw who was in the Championship.

https://i.imgur.com/LiEjHIL.png

https://i.ibb.co/VCdxdPX/lol.png

:drool:

[Lofty]

A glimpse into the future at this rate I fear :D

Can't justify getting full fat and a laptop to run it so awaiting Touch tomorrow, interesting to see what updates there actually are given the fact SI seem to give no fucks about it.

[John Arne]

+1 for the Zanzala love in.

I took over a the Alex for my long term save, managed to bring in Lord Bendter and Gestede. Despite Gestede being a weapon, my man Zanzala just keep plundering them in.

If you're managing Championship - L2, take a look at Rudy Gestede - managed to pick him up for £1.5k a week.

[Baz]

Or Eric Bailly. Reddit suggests he’ll sign for anyone.

[Lofty]

Got touch and currently putting my logo and face packs back on the ipad. Curiously it seems despite increasing the league limit in other versions and bringing in dynamics on mobile they have fucked that off for Touch :D

[wullie]

I'm at around March in the first season and while I've pulled Cov clear of relegation and hit the magical 50 point mark, I've combined the best attack in the division with by far the worst defence. You can't argue with the goals per £ value of those season tickets

[Baz]

Got touch and currently putting my logo and face packs back on the ipad. Curiously it seems despite increasing the league limit in other versions and bringing in dynamics on mobile they have fucked that off for Touch :D
Just seen you can do this for mobile. Will probably end up with that version too. I presume the cloud save doesn’t extend as far as Mobile?

[Lofty]

Not sure, I don't think so. I had packs in on mobile last time it was decent enough.

[Dark Soldier]

Arezo is a cheatcode

https://i.gyazo.com/b1286b7c15183ac12d369b17a8c75f33.png

[Baz]

He was pretty good (for my Corinthians team) on FM20 too. But not that good.

[Dark Soldier]

He's on 71 in 49 starts now. He won't stop scoring.

[Smjffy]

Wrexham 2022/2023

League

A third successive promotion and into the Championship we go although it was a little gutting to miss out on the title itself but given we never returned to the top after being knocked off it on 2nd February, we can't complain too much. Our last game of the season saw ourselves face Fleetwood and if we avoided defeat we'd go up automatically so the 3-0 win was welcome.

Some big wins throughout the campaign, 5-1 against Wigan, 5-3 against Ipswich, 5-4 again Charlton and an absolute joke of a match in beating Preston 7-5, all away from home but our 10-4 win at home to Doncaster really took the biscuit. A hattrick of hattricks though....

https://i.imgur.com/FrMhKp6.png

:drool:

Our total of 115 league goals was a record but we also had the worst defensive record in the league....madness.

Such an outlay in goals meant it was no surprise that we had at least one of the leagues top scorers, as it is though, we had the top three.

https://i.imgur.com/2MzJBiV.png

Promotion is promotion though.

https://i.imgur.com/wEaU4s0.png


FA Cup

We knocked out Colchester 6-2 in the first round and followed that up with home wins against Hartlepool (4-1) and MK Dons (1-0) so to reach the fourth round I had hoped for a money spinning draw but instead it turned out to be a bit of a north v south encounter as we were knocked out by Cardiff of all teams.

https://i.imgur.com/5Drwxku.png

EFL Cup

Scraped through the first round against Accrington Stanley on penalties after a 2-2 draw, Port Vale were seen off in the second but Premier League side Wolves showed their quality in the third and sent us packing.

https://i.imgur.com/Mf0kaB6.png

EFL Trophy

We actually faced the Wolves U23's in the group stage but were undone 3-2 but we did enough to qualify from it after wins against Bradford City and Grimsby Town. Leeds United U23's came in the second round and we dispatched them 3-0, Fleetwood were dumped out 4-0 in the third round and then I anticipated being knocked out by Arsenal U23's in the quarter finals, as it was we won 4-2 to set up a semi final against Man United U23's. I was a little gutted in the end. :moop:

https://i.imgur.com/R7RnPd7.png

Next Season

We've got a whole host of players who are due to leave as we won't renew their contracts and a decent sized transfer budget of £4,000,000 to play with. We've finally opted for one of the scouting packages so I hope we find one or two gems as we relied heavily on loan deals from our new feeder club Man City this season. Now it's going to get a bit fun though I'd imagine.

I want to finish as close to the play offs as possible so we just rapidly jump from Vanarama Conference to the Premier League but I sense this is where it gets a little trickier. I've been surprised at how little I've actually had to do overall. I'll do a squad update before we kick off the upcoming campaign but so far so good.


Wrexham - Season 2023/2024


League

A mid season slump probably cost us a chance of sneaking into the playoffs but losing 17 games over the course of the season suggests we'd have got rinsed in the Premier League anyway. I put this down to the number of new arrivals and I can't see the upcoming season being any different. It was nice not to lose to Arsenal as we beat them 1-0 at home and drew 0-0 at the Emirates but I'm still bewildered how they managed to find themselves in this division. Sign of things to come? Beware if Patrick Vieira replaces Arteta, I say. Other managerial change I clocked was Steven Gerrard is now WBA manager but he did win the SPL....

https://i.imgur.com/8AyKqvc.png


FA Cup

We drew at The Racecourse which was nice but Tottenham put an end to our run in the replay. Nothing more than we expected tbh.

https://i.imgur.com/pvarVrL.png

EFL Cup

Not much different here either tbh but losing to Wigan was a little bit gutting given they are quite crap.

https://i.imgur.com/iuNRfzn.png

Transfers In

We made whole sale changes but scouting was an issue and quite a few I'd suggest were quite crap and if not for the loaned players, we'd have been in a whole world of trouble. I want to try move away from that for next season and since we have nearly £10M we can spend (mostly due to the sale of Rhys Plant), I reckon we've got more scope for some higher quality arrivals.

https://i.imgur.com/rPVgeKY.png

We probably wouldn't have finished in the clubs highest ever position since the 1970's too had it not been for Josh Thomas. Now a Welsh international. :drool: 34 goals in 50 appearances but he was out on his own in that regard.

https://i.imgur.com/2wrRYHI.png


Squad

https://i.imgur.com/NFqF38w.png


Next Season

I never got around to doing a full squad update so maybe that'll come as I expect huge changes throughout as I want to go up to the promised land.

[Dquincy]

Good read, Smiffy. Keep it up.

I will one day post an update for my FM11 career. Especially as I've bought a new laptop.

[Smjffy]

Got touch and currently putting my logo and face packs back on the ipad. Curiously it seems despite increasing the league limit in other versions and bringing in dynamics on mobile they have fucked that off for Touch :D

How are you finding touch, Lofty? I do prefer the speed of that compared to the full version with it's constant clicking of bollocks so I might move over again as I enjoyed the last one. I could rattle out seasons.

[Danny]

Smjffy

Billy Sass Davies playing in the Prem? He is usually decent for my Crewe games but never that good.

[Smjffy]

@Smjffy (https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/member.php?u=1348)

Billy Sass Davies playing in the Prem? He is usually decent for my Crewe games but never that good.

We didn't get promoted so he's still in Championship.

https://i.imgur.com/EQa6ReZ.png


https://i.imgur.com/QtG67MK.png


He might not even get the chance regardless as I'm tempted to switch to Touch. I just tested it out and it's much faster than this full version and I don't faff around with most the features.

[Danny]

Looks about where he normally gets to. Solid if unspectacular!

Thinking about starting again with Wrexham?

[Smjffy]

Palermo I'm thinking :cool: They are in the bottom division in Italy and if I'm right I'll be able to sign foreign players as I please without Brexit, right? I've spotted a few during this save with Wrexham but I've been unable to sign them.

[Lofty]

How are you finding touch, Lofty? I do prefer the speed of that compared to the full version with it's constant clicking of bollocks so I might move over again as I enjoyed the last one. I could rattle out seasons.

Haha at the rate you go you'd get your money's worth. It's a slight upgrade this year, seems a little faster and the match engine is better, otherwise not much on 20.

Started my traditional first save as Arsenal. Just got to December using the same squad Arteta has and I'm 3rd in the league. #ArtetaOut :D

[John Arne]

I'm at Crewe and managed to get 37yr old Yaya Toure on board (realism) on about $3,200 per week. He had a decent season (30-2-12) but I was also looking forward to getting him off the books...
End of the season and I get a message that his wages have increased to $5,300 due to 'match highest earner' (whatevs, he's leaving soon), I then click on his contract to see which day exactly he is leaving... I signed a 37yr old Yaya Toure to a 3 year contract by mistake :face:

https://gyazo.com/2af53f12b60f3ea3125c134f50c053d9.jpeg

Those physical attributes sinking :drool:

https://gyazo.com/232d688594a1cef22cfb12337afd9b40.jpeg

Almost a $1m on this fucking waster. Expect to see a few 1's and 2's in his stats before he leaves. Tried and failed to offload him. Can only hope retires.

https://gyazo.com/051cddec7eace78692fe4910d9296ce4.jpeg

[Shindig]

Is a birthday cake actually a contractual thing? The Yaya clause?

[John Arne]

Creative license. He'd better fucking retire.

[John Arne]

Oh you beauty...

https://gyazo.com/c529518a1b3821f41d473f90b4cb7576.jpeg

What... wait, what...

https://gyazo.com/4890ce677cfd206aa6610b1887c80fb1.jpeg

Absolute stonking cunts.

[Baz]

:lol:

[Spikey M]

:D

[Raoul Duke]

At least you get to have some more cake

[Smjffy]

Flintshire FC have gained access to the Vanarama National North at the expense of Alfreton Town. :drool: No players so I'm going to draft in a squad of the greyed out under 18's to get the ball rolling and then it's onwards and upwards.

EDIT: Lasted less than 6 months. :moop: We were getting battered each week so I'm going to go a different route and start again but with a sugar daddy.

[randomlegend]

I couldn't get rid of De Gea so I'm stuck paying £570k a week on goalkeepers :)

[SvN]

Wife and son away for the weekend. Think I'm gonna buy this.

Where's the best place?

[Spikey M]

Baz (I think) posted a (probably affiliate) link a couple of weeks back. That was the cheapest then, anyway.

[Giggles]

I normally find cdkeys cheapest.

[Spikey M]

ShopTo is cheaper
Turns out it's not a link, but check there and CDKeys.

[Baz]

Dickhead

[Pleb]

:D

[Smjffy]

I've bought the editor for FM21 full version but any idea where it actually is? I want to give Wrexham a sugar daddy and just go mental but I can't find it, it's not in the steam and it didn't seem to download anything but the £4 has definitely gone out.

[randomlegend]

I've bought the editor for FM21 full version but any idea where it actually is? I want to give Wrexham a sugar daddy and just go mental but I can't find it, it's not in the steam and it didn't seem to download anything but the £4 has definitely gone out.

Go to your steam library. On the top of the list of games, there's a drop-down menu which will be set to "Games". Click it and tick tools as well. Then the editor will appear directly below the game in the list.

https://i.imgur.com/kczpBT3.png

[Smjffy]

Brilliant. I've found it. Thanks.

EDIT: It would appear that that's the pregame editor one, I bought the in-game one. Or am I completely missing something here?

[John Arne]

The pre game editor is free. The in game editor is what you have paid for. When playing the game there's a little '/' near the setting button. That's it.

https://gyazo.com/8af6321ff92994544923fc292646f3cc.jpeg

[Spikey M]

Brilliant. I've found it. Thanks.

EDIT: It would appear that that's the pregame editor one, I bought the in-game one. Or am I completely missing something here?

Booooooooooo!!!!!!

[Raoul Duke]

The pre game editor is free. The in game editor is what you have paid for. When playing the game there's a little '/' near the setting button. That's it.

https://gyazo.com/8af6321ff92994544923fc292646f3cc.jpeg

That is some of the worst UI design I think I've ever seen :D

[John Arne]

That is some of the worst UI design I think I've ever seen :D

Yup. I just grabbed the image off Google. I immediately download a dark, less retina destroying skin.

[randomlegend]

Brilliant. I've found it. Thanks.

EDIT: It would appear that that's the pregame editor one, I bought the in-game one. Or am I completely missing something here?

Sorry should've been obvious you meant the in game one when you said you'd bought it.

[Smjffy]

Booooooooooo!!!!!!

Never fear. It's not what I was hoping for. I wanted to stick those two celebs as the new owners and see if I could switch off the Brexit thing but alas, you can't do either.

[Dquincy]

Previous season (taken from the FM 2020 thread)

Parma - Season 2065/66

A very good season.

Serie A

https://i.imgur.com/yBQMHMB.png

https://i.imgur.com/c77zGh3.png


We were always in the hunt hovering around 3rd or 2nd, but after Christmas we got our noses in front and never looked back. Won the league with 2 games to spare. First time Parma have won the Serie A in their long history.

Special mention for my final league game against 2nd place Inter Milan. :eek: Every shot I had went in!


Italian Cup

https://i.imgur.com/9GZTPNC.png

Final against 2nd place Inter Milan.

https://i.imgur.com/3qCfCXh.png


Fairly even match but it meant Parma's first domestic double in their history.


Champions League

https://i.imgur.com/7ViUSjJ.png

Group stages went down to the final game against Valeranga, but we beat them easily at home. Special mention for my old club Cork City.


https://i.imgur.com/27yUNtE.png

Barca were always in the control. Lost it in the first leg.


End of season first team squad.

https://i.imgur.com/bMZITlk.png


Key players:

https://i.imgur.com/fTSGklq.png

My star striker. Broke the Serie A record for most goals in a season.


https://i.imgur.com/rNB9MlG.png

My big signing last summer and easily our best player of the season. Missed the last month of the season due to injury.


https://i.imgur.com/lcXZyuq.png

He may be young, but he was a consistent starter in the centre of my defence. At 18 yrs old, he should become a star player providing he's not poached.

Next Season: Probably going to stay at Parma and push for success in the Champions League. Bit of an issue with our stadium only having 27,000 capacity, so the income isn't great in this regard.

Shout if you do not want my vintage game in your FM 2021 thread. Otherwise...

Parma - Season 2066/67

The aim was to improve on the previous season, wining Serie A again and go far in the Champions League.

Turns out we had a very good domestic season again, topping the 100 points total and my superstar striker topping the goal scorer charts.

https://i.imgur.com/n75NcrR.png

https://i.imgur.com/tWMz6np.png

Won the Italian Cup, beating AC Milan 1-0 in the Final

https://i.imgur.com/Ftf1Y55.png

You'll see from above PSV stopped our crusade in Europe at the semi final stage.

Overall a decent season and my players dominated the awards. Bit weird that i had the top 2 GKs.

https://i.imgur.com/jgXYFnf.png

https://i.imgur.com/jgXYFnf.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZGtgsIJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/SvKHVFG.png

https://i.imgur.com/8pw1BGz.png

https://i.imgur.com/qMn7Euf.png

https://i.imgur.com/NiuFTBD.png

https://i.imgur.com/CHvvj0R.png



I'm a few seasons ahead so shall post another one shortly.

[Lofty]

First season as Arsenal FM21 Touch: I only signed one player, Arezo, amd sold Mustafi in January having not signed or sold anyone in the summer. Finished 6th and potless, got to the Europa League final against Lille and conspired to cough up a 94th minute equaliser then Xhaka missed the decisive penalty forcing it to sudden death.

I've been given a hundred million quid and a stern reprimand to improve things, had a couple of 'bad result could be a sacking' news items at the end of the season. Looking to sell Lacazette, Kolasinac, Xhaka and let Özil and Luiz leave on a free to hopefully bring in two or three top quality players and bring the rest of the young guns through around them.

[Smjffy]

Oxford City - 2020/21

It was a busy summer for The Hoops as wholesale changes were made right off the bat and twenty-one new arrivals moved to the club. In part this was due to a wafer thin squad but the goal was to go up at the first time of asking and for much of the season that looked as though it would be via the playoffs given Havant & Waterlooville's storming start to the season but a spectacular bottle job in May put ourselves and Maidstone United right in it with Havant taking just two points from their final six league games, defeated by ourselves and then Maidstone on the final day causing them to finish 3rd. Maidstone went into that game knowing that if they were to claim top spot then they would need to beat the former long time leaders and hope that 4th placed Welling United caused an upset at Court Place Farm, our ground. That didn't occur and up we went, surprisingly so did Ebbsfleet United who were perhaps the worst of all the promotion contenders.https://i.imgur.com/ncO67q7.png

Goals were easy to come by and we rattled in more than our fair share. James Roberts and Harvey Bradbury being the main two but a decent spread throughout the squad meant we weren't lacking in that department.

https://i.imgur.com/7P1JXxH.png

https://i.imgur.com/9TNZl70.png

Our fortune in the domestic cups was what it was. Torquay United knocking us out of the FA Cup in the fourth qualifying round meant any chance of some money spinning ties was put on hold and though we reached the quarter finals of the FA Trophy, our 3-2 defeat to Brackley was disappointing given we were in full flow back in February.

https://i.imgur.com/ewfmEMt.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/nDda0pT.png

Our squad did all it needed to do as the sole goal was to move up a division but we have plenty of work to do in the summer once again given most the new arrivals were on twelve month contracts. I'm hoping to snap up the released Premier League/Championship players as is the norm.

https://i.imgur.com/zj2l12H.png

*I tried on the last version to make Oxford City the most dominant side in the world beating all records like the total Premier League wins, Champions League wins and if any remember my efforts there, we didn't do too badly.

Unfortunately it is going to be on touch because quite frankly I don't have the time to rattle out seasons on the full version and found most of my time was spent just faffing around with things I have no interest in.

[bruhnaldo]

Anyone tried this on Xbox

[Boydy]

Similar to Bruh, does anyone play the Touch version on the Switch? I'm tempted to buy it but I've read the controls are a bit annoying.

[Raoul Duke]

I had it last year and it was fine. Bit fiddly but not bad overall. Did a game with Milan that went on a few seasons that I enjoyed

[Spikey M]

I hate FM Touch. It feels every bit like the mobile phone app it is (unless it has improved hugely since FM19's version).

[Boydy]

I had it last year and it was fine. Bit fiddly but not bad overall. Did a game with Milan that went on a few seasons that I enjoyed
Cheers. Might get it then.

I hate FM Touch. It feels every bit like the mobile phone app it is (unless it has improved hugely since FM19's version).

Have you played FM Mobile? There's definitely more depth to Touch than it.

[Spikey M]

I've played all 3 and Touch felt a lot closer to Mobile than to the proper version to me.

[randomlegend]

https://i.imgur.com/hukq0uM.png

4.5 star potential, 48 goals in 37 games for the u18s.

Finishing of 7 and composure of 8.

:happycry:

[mugbull]

Bought FM, first one since 14 and I completely forgot how fucking hard this game is. Took over Palermo in Serie C and got 2 wins to start off, before going 9 games without a win and running (scoring about 5 goals in the process). Somehow the board are “pleased” with my performance so it’ll be a while before I’m put out of my misery

[Dquincy]

Season 2067/68

After my successful exploits at Parma, the Ayr Utd job became available again in the summer of 2067. They finished mid season and seemed to had sold all of the decent youngsters i have previously acquired. I had unfinished business in Scotland with Ayr from my previous stint so i resigned at Parma and took the job at Ayr.

Transfers:

I bought and sold a few in preseason. The top 3 free transfers are youngsters who weren't going to make it at my previous Parma team; i made them redundant on my last day. I would show you screenshots of the transfers, but I'm a few season past here currently.

https://i.imgur.com/Dp7ehN5.png


League:

Having managed to off load a few of the shit that the previous fella bought in, we had a decent season, but again Hearts were the dominant force as per usual. My 9,000 stadium being no match for their 50,000+ stadium income.

https://i.imgur.com/o3H3Hde.png

https://i.imgur.com/XKm65en.png


Cups:

I did manage to get one over Hearts in the League Cup final. Didn't deserve it, but we'll take it.

https://i.imgur.com/DnPPu0r.png


Awards:

The only award my players received was the Young Player of The Year award.

https://i.imgur.com/s4NbRYH.png


Aim for next season is to improve the squad, try and finally get a stadium expansion to improve finances and finish higher in the league.

[Lofty]

I've played all 3 and Touch felt a lot closer to Mobile than to the proper version to me.

Mobile is a paddling pool (and pretty easy), Touch is a swimming pool and PC is the ocean.

The minor update for touch has apparently binned all my facepack and logos :moop:

[mugbull]

Got sacked by Palermo after a dozen or so games, so I started a new save with Feyenoord, whom I like because their badge is just a big “F”.

First season went okay, finished 4th. Made a lot of cheap investments over the following summer so I ended up with a bloated squad and managed to draw the first four league games of the season. Tried to get rid of some squad players so I offered a few out. For some reason the entire squad took grievous offense to my attempt at offloading some bit-part attacking midfielder who apparently wasn’t part of any social group to begin with. I go into the team meeting, and am immediately faced with twenty “Disenchanted” players asking me to explain myself. I tell them he’s not really very good, they (or rather their ombudsman) retort by telling me he is actually quite good. I’m then forced to select between essentially telling them all to fuck off, or “I’m really pleased with how this meeting has gone, thanks for the productive conversation”. Not wanting to start a completely unnecessary row with my whole team, I choose the nonsense option. Predictably, they all become furious and my assistant informs me on the next screen that he has just observed a catastrophic drop in morale. Thanks mate.

[Smjffy]

I found I struggled with keeping players happy on the full version too and the 'gestures' are largely just a waste of time. At least on Touch that doesn't seem to be as big a problem.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWySTvLuCII

This should be good.

[Mike]

Finished my first season in Germany. It went well!

https://i.imgur.com/Yc6JkFr.png

https://i.imgur.com/OPwVQFx.png

https://i.imgur.com/UCeOqJ1.png
https://i.imgur.com/XxuIEMO.png

https://i.imgur.com/sMias5m.png
https://i.imgur.com/vSASKfS.png

https://i.imgur.com/Eug5nOq.png

[Mike]

Second Season has gone well
https://i.imgur.com/sU16Zpt.jpg