[FUTBOL] Pay per view Premier League poll

[Reg]

I know this was briefly discussed but it's a pretty big deal so deserves its own thread.

So £14.95 for the Sky and BT box office games. How much of a disgrace is this? Or is it not a disgrace at all, are you perfectly happy to pay that much to watch your team?

For the remaining games in October, the lesser teams' fans are disadvantaged (e.g. Brighton and Villa games being on pay per view channels due to not being picked for TV beforehand).

But after this month, what should happen? If Sky and BT then say 'we'll reserve the big six games for box office channels and make more money' then subscribers have paid for an entirely different product to the one they thought they were getting.

Also, there's the big issue of season ticket holders. Clubs seem to have done various things in terms of refunds/partial refunds/not doing anything at all yet, but should season ticket holders not be given the option to watch these matches without paying extra?

[Don]

As we'd say in Iran, the price is too heavy. I wouldn't pay that to watch Liverpool in the CL final given the availibility of streaming and it's hardly a moral decision to fill the coffers of these disgusting entities so I'm more concerned by who tf is paying it and what we can do to speed up the process of them catching COVID-19.

[Shindig]

I'd feel better about it if I knew the vast majority of the money was going back to the clubs.

[Lewis]

Can Brexit Britain not go back to just letting one broadcaster have every game?

[Kikó]

Absolutely zero chance this is being paid for by me ever.

[phonics]

Good way to introduce people to just how easy it is to stream these days though. Genius plan.

[Spikey M]

I'm split between 'taking advantage of the fans' and 'Season Ticket holders should get them free'. But yeah, as Keeks said really. No chance I'll pay it.

[Kikó]

I think that football clubs can/should be able to offer their club streamed to home fans who would normally have paid for a season ticket but that's about it. Give it a charge for running costs £5-10.

Football doesn't have the boxing pull in and the model doesn't fit for pay per view.

[Lofty]

If anything I think the daft twats are about to discover that the market for football is a bit saturated these days. I won't be paying to watch any additional games. Unless they are doing the old pitch it high so the climb down to what they wanted to charge seems palatable trick, it seems like it will just increase piracy or even just turn people off altogether. It's been said before but decent radio commentary is far better than monosyllabic ex pro punditry.

[Lewis]

This isn't really aimed at us. Anyone who wants to stream stuff already is doing, so this is about finding a happy medium ground for screwing more money out of the casual Sky subscribing football fan. If you've got kids who are into it, or a few people round, or you're one of those pre-divorce Magic types who spends forty quid on a branded chopping board (and refers to it as a 'purchase'), it's not a lot of money to get a game up on the big telly.

The problems will be in choosing the games and keeping it beyond the current weird scheduling. There are only a few clubs who are going to be a draw, but if you start putting big games between them on it the standard subscriptions will become less attractive. With that in mind, United vs Newcastle is probably about as good as it gets, but if it wasn't on a weekend night nobody would be around to consider it, so maybe it won't last if the normal scheduling returns.

[Andy]

It is ridiculous, the odd PPV game throughout a normal season wouldn't be too bad. You could get 3 or 4 of you together and split the cost. The price point is all wrong, £10 a month and I'd happily pay, you would have thought with a cheaper price point thay covers a weekend, month or even season they would end up making far more.

I will listen on the radio for most game and stream or go to the pub for the Southampton games.

[phonics]

Isn’t it illegal to have 3 or 4 of you together at the moment anyway?

[Andy]

Isn’t it illegal to have 3 or 4 of you together at the moment anyway?

Yeah, that was my point. Half the country aren't allowed to.

[Lewis]

That's another thing. There isn't a lot on at the minute, so it might end up just being a short-lived budget plug/cash-in.

[Jimmy Floyd]

No, I'd rather listen on the radio, even if it means being plunged into a pit of Theo Walcott related anxiety, as I was (with complete justification, too) for 90 minutes this afternoon.

I don't do illegal streaming, I guess there's a chance I would pay as a one off if Chelsea were in some title deciding game or similar.

[Giggles]

If it was a game I really wanted to see (like an international or something) I’d pay the 15 rather than faff about with ads and popups, but it would be a very rare occurrence. I’d rather just not watch 99% of games.

[Reg]

I'd feel better about it if I knew the vast majority of the money was going back to the clubs.
The clubs get the money minus production costs. (Not sure how that works with Sky getting Jamie Redknapp or whoever to do extra work - what's his one off match fee?)

[Lewis]

Preferring the radio is like insisting vinyls sound better.

[phonics]

The clubs get the money minus production costs. (Not sure how that works with Sky getting Jamie Redknapp or whoever to do extra work - what's his one off match fee?)

From the looks of the Chelsea game I don’t think you get pundits or anything.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Preferring the radio is like insisting vinyls sound better.

It's preferable to ballsing about with streams.

[phonics]

You literally go to the one website that hosts them all and click a button. It’s about as hard as using this website.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Or I put the radio on and I can carry on doing something else in the foreground. I also get to hear how Munster are getting on at rugby from time to time, and which horse has won the 3.40 at Worcester. It's win-win.

[Giggles]

A generic Saturday sport radio show is great to have on.

[Spikey M]

I didn't know people still had radios (outside of the car).

[Giggles]

Any smartphone or home assistant thing is a radio.

[Kikó]

IPTV has killed any messing around with streams.

[phonics]

I’m not paying for piracy.

[Kikó]

International crime bosses also need an income.

[Dark Soldier]

I’m not paying for piracy.

get with the times lad its not 2007 anymore

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck VAR.

That's even closer than Mane's.

[phonics]

get with the times lad its not 2007 anymore

Just because you’re a sucker doesn’t mean we all are.

[Shindig]

It's better for you than coke.

[Smjffy]

I didn't know people still had radios (outside of the car).

I listen to the radio pretty much all day every day. :sorry:

[Offshore Toon]

I'm surprised Spikey didn't know everyone has a radio in their pocket these days.

[Shindig]

I miss having the kind of office job where Radio 2 was constantly on in the morning. Ken Bruce could break terrible news to me forever.

"Your mother and I have decided to live in different houses."

[Spikey M]

I'm surprised Spikey didn't know everyone has a radio in their pocket these days.

I thought they were just happy to see me.

[Giggles]

Probably that too.

[Offshore Toon]

Any workplace with radio 2 must be horrible. Radio 6 is the best for work.

[Pleb]

Sack it off and do a Netflix-style subscription you tight fucks.

[Baz]

get with the times lad its not 2007 anymore:lol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

At the end of the day it's them just trying to milk older people who usually go to matches.

The majority wont know how to do piracy (and/or are scared of doing it), used to go to the stadium and as such have those funds free to pay £15 to see their team on TV in a game that wouldn't usually be on TV.

[Don]

Hope the figures are released. Will they even get 30K for today's Sheff Utd-Fulham offering?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sky and BT don't release their (puny) viewing figures at the best of times, let alone for this. They almost never get to one million even for the biggest games that come with the subscription. PPV for Sheff Utd / Fulham will be restricted to their fanbases and a few high rolling gamblers: 1,000 perhaps?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd imagine 5,000 will be their max but considering they'd have gotten £0 for that match without Covid they'd happily take it.