Oktoberballfest: Woops, forgot about this

[Disco]

The clubs already made their 'fuck the rest of you' land grab, this is just going back to the pot for another helping.

[Bob Sacamano]

They did implement the 3 year average after that relegation mind.

I thought that's when they decided to implement a THIRTY team top tier

[Kikó]

Very true - could be.

[Ian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LurJvgQD0Sw

For some reason Youtube just recommended me this.

Amazing, amazing bants Jamie.

[niko_cee]

Channeling Ian Holloway in that freeze frame.

[Andy]

This league reform seems like a good idea until you read about the big 6 having complete control over everything. The last thing we want is more power to those 6 clubs.

On the other hand the changes to the structure and how the money will be distributed is great and should be implemented. Change all those things but keep the 14/20 Premier league voting structure and I think the game would be in a far better position.

[Jimmy Floyd]

None of it means anything if the voting structure goes the way they want it to, because they could then just vote to reverse it all, or abolish relegation, or vote whatever they want into or out of existence afterwards.

[Disco]

The slightly more favourable distribution is the price for ceding control to those 6 clubs.

[Andy]

The best bit is how they tried to make it look like 9 clubs make the decisions.

[Kikó]

None of it means anything if the voting structure goes the way they want it to, because they could then just vote to reverse it all, or abolish relegation, or vote whatever they want into or out of existence afterwards.

It's exactly that. Here's everything until we change our minds.

[Lewis]

I wouldn't mind the Big Four having control of everything, but I simply refuse to recognise this 'Big Six'.

[Disco]

Well if I know sports administrators they'll definitely do what's best for the future health of the sport as a whole.

[niko_cee]

That's why you just don't accept the voting reform and if it's take it or leave it I guess you leave it (although the football league are probably still better off taking it).

I eagerly await a Brighton or a Burnley proposing Andy's suggestion as a sensible compromise . . .

Although fuck knows why having the 14/20 would be really any better (all you get then is the middle tier Premier League clubs do everything in their power to suppress competition from below). Maybe they should go IFAB board style and give half the votes to the top 6 (actually just give half the votes to Liverpool and United as the others are a waste of time really, maybe that's harsh on Arsenal) and half the votes to the rest league (distribute as many or as few as you want) where a majority is needed to do stuff. Why does this new thing put us any closer to a no relegation future? I would have thought, were that in any way possible, the current voting model would be much more likely to yield it. The big 6 don't give a fuck about relegation. It is a threat so remote as to not be worth bothering with. At best that type of ingrained advantage is only relevant at a European level (where it is more possible to feckless your way out of the thing - see Meeelan and their bleating).

[Waffdon]

Who’s the ‘big six’?

[Giggles]

Who’s the ‘big six’?

The big 4 and Arsenal and Tottenham.

[Waffdon]

The big four is Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool, no? The original from the 2000s anyway.

[Lewis]

We went through this before. There is the Big Four/Sky Four, and then City have affiliate status. Tottenham are nowhere.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The big 6 don't give a fuck about relegation. It is a threat so remote as to not be worth bothering with.

The endgame for the American owners (who are the ones drafting this up, not uncoincidentally) will be for the league to mirror the collective owner-power and commercial certainty of US sports and if that means they know they are always working with Burnley and not QPR, then it makes it that little bit easier. Liverpool and United getting into bed is the most predictable thing ever - especially at a time when the Spanish big dogs are bleeding money and credibility. The more of a cartel there is among ownership, the less power players and agents will have. Levy will be all for it too, but whether the oligarchs and sand barons are is a different question.

As soon as you close up the league then you can start having things like salary caps which are extremely owner-friendly.

I found it interesting that they want rid of the Community Shield - seems like a weird thing to want to abolish, unless you're planning to play it or something like it in Boston...

[phonics]

Niko tries to come off as ‘not like the rest of the nutters’ and then drops a ‘only United and Liverpool are relevant when it comes to the premier league’

[Jimmy Floyd]

Niko tries to come off as ‘not like the rest of the nutters’ and then drops a ‘only United and Liverpool are relevant when it comes to the premier league’

He's right. It's a 3 team league (Arsenal being the third one), the rest don't matter at all. As a Chelsea/City fan you really notice it in the media coverage - us two are only fleetingly relevant when we are failing and therefore allow the massive fanbases of the big 3 to lol at us. When we win the story is the red lot failing.

[niko_cee]

I get the point about trying to make it the National Soccer League (but presumably Pan-National), I just don't really see it as being remotely possible. Even if it were possible to corral the biggestest 32 teams in Europe (the World?) into some sort of super league, football, as we know it, really isn't some by the numbers how high can he jump how about that combine yeehaw sport, like those you would be trying to ape. Also, it is too prevalent. Closed shops only work if you are the shop. The NFL can dominate their players because they are the only game in town. How is that ever going to be the case with football? Are we just going to tell all of the other teams/ league in the world to stop bothering? Where do the players come from?

I guess what I'm trying to say is I understand the concern, but I'm not that convinced by it as a genuinely existential threat.

That said, the voting idea is wrong and shouldn't be countenanced. I'm not exactly sure how a democratic system in football governance should work, but 6 clubs good x clubs bad is a bit Orwellian, even though we have 14 clubs good and fuck the rest of you at the moment.

[Shindig]

Paul Scholes looks a bit of a cunt with that move.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The traditionally mooted death star style Super League isn't viable. What they'll want is the best of both worlds - a slimline, elitist domestic league and a repetitive, elitist CL - and control over both.

It genuinely is in their interest to have a strong and deep English domestic system so this is why they'll hand the cash over.

[Danny]

Paul Scholes looks a bit of a cunt with that move.

What move?

[Shindig]

He's made himself manager.

[Danny]

He hasnt. He is caretaker until they find a new boss. Pretty sure Warren Joyce was meant to do it but he is isolation.

[Lewis]

Paul Scholes seems like a borderline retard, to the point where you wonder whether it was actually the club keeping him out of the spotlight.

[Shindig]

Taken in by the BBC reporting again. Argh.

[niko_cee]

The traditionally mooted death star style Super League isn't viable. What they'll want is the best of both worlds - a slimline, elitist domestic league and a repetitive, elitist CL - and control over both.

It genuinely is in their interest to have a strong and deep English domestic system so this is why they'll hand the cash over.

Which is sort of better than what we have at the moment, which is a marginally more bloated elitist domestic league, and a repetitive, elitist European format. So tell them to fuck off with the voting system, keep the Rumbelows, but have a few less league games and more money down the chain.

Although Rick Parry being in favour of something is usually a pretty good steer on what not to think. Status quo forever?

[Waffdon]

He hasnt. He is caretaker until they find a new boss. Pretty sure Warren Joyce was meant to do it but he is isolation.

The rumour is he fancies the job though. Still looks like a cunt regardless.

[Danny]

The rumour is he fancies the job though. Still looks like a cunt regardless.

Haven’t seen any of that. Would be madness for him to do so.

[Don]

Our friendly against Mali has been called off for tomorrow approximately 16 hours before KO because 2 of their staff have tested positive. I hope Doucoure takes it back with him, the cunt.

[Danny]

Did they call up him and Adama and neither went?

[Don]

Ya, Adama joined up with Spain, wasn't sure if Doucoure went or not.

[niko_cee]

Keita's got the 'rona now apparently.

[phonics]

Trippiers facing a 6 month ban for telling his mates he was off to Atletico and then betting on it. These people are fucking morons. Just give your mate some cash ffs.

[phonics]

Mezut Ozil rounding out his week of good PR by advocating for Armenian Genocide.

Very good.

edit: I replied and now I've got a good debate going between a bajillion fenerbache fans vs me. It can be best described as 'spirited'

https://i.imgur.com/xHyBGge.png

[phonics]

They’re very angry at me.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/270326079648956433/765694511073460264/image0.png

[Shindig]

What did you think was going to happen?

[Lewis]

I've tried to follow this conflict but there is nothing to follow, so you just have to trust your instinct and figure Turkey has backed the cunts and that the Armenians are a great bunch of lads.

[phonics]

This is the most people in my mentions ever. There’s hundreds of people calling for my death. Normally it’s 2 to 3 people at most.

[Don]

:nodd:
@ Lewis, not the Twitter Warrior.

[phonics]

I’d guessed as normally you’re one of the two to three people. Most of its in Turkish so I don’t have a clue but at one point people got very into accusing an old lady of being propaganda so I’ve just got 10s of photos of some fat old Armenian woman in there.

[Lewis]

It's a truly baffling state of affairs. Why do Azerbaijan want it back? There is nothing there, and literally everyone hates them. It would be like us trying to expand Northern Ireland into Donegal.

[phonics]

It’s all a bit mad. Didn’t they send some general over to make a peace deal and murdered him like it was a fucking Game of Thrones b-scene?

[Pen]

Us against team Giggles part two about to start :cool:

Gutted I’m missing this as someone from work has COVID and I was told to stay home because of it :(

[Giggles]

Us against team Giggles part two about to start :cool:

Gutted I’m missing this as someone from work has COVID and I was told to stay home because of it :(

I fucked off home early to catch the start of it.

I said it before and I’ll say it again - that Finland kit :drool:

[Pen]

It’s growing in me too. If only it was the same shade of blue all the way.

[Manc]

Stephen Kenny looks like a Maths Teacher.

[Giggles]

Matt Doherty was better at centre half against Wales than he is as a right back. Needs to be a 5 to use him or it needs to be Coleman (when he’s back).

[Manc]

Soiri looks a player.

[Giggles]

Is Hendrick this terrible for Newcastle or does he play on the right like he did for Burnley Shindig?

[Pen]

Soiri looks a player.

He’s probably been playing better than ever today.

[Manc]

Pukki is a woeful finisher. He seems determined to keep the ball on the deck.

[Pen]

His goalless streak is getting to him. During the last qualifying campaign he would’ve scored that first chance every time.

Soiri inexplicably subbed at half time :cab:

[Giggles]

We so badly need Idah to turn out half decent.

[Pen]

Taking Kamara off when being one up seems like a pointless risk to take.

[Giggles]

Taking Kamara off when being one up seems like a pointless risk to take.

This is either going to be 1-0 if you settle or 2-0 if you push on. We aren’t scoring.

[Shindig]

Is Hendrick this terrible for Newcastle or does he play on the right like he did for Burnley Shindig?

I haven't been keeping up. I thought he hadn't played much since the opening day but he's got 4 appearances for us this season. I think we tend to use him centrally because Ritchie and Fraser have the right side sewn up.

[Giggles]

I haven't been keeping up. I thought he hadn't played much since the opening day but he's got 4 appearances for us this season. I think we tend to use him centrally because Ritchie and Fraser have the right side sewn up.

He has the first touch of a rapist and if he does manage to get on the ball he is an absolute faff merchant. For us anyway.

[Giggles]

That’s a quality save.

[Mellberg]

How's Hourihane been doing generally?

[Giggles]

How's Hourihane been doing generally?

Decent enough in a few previous games playing fairly deep but I actually forgot he was playing tonight until you mentioned him.

[Waffdon]

Is Hendrick this terrible for Newcastle or does he play on the right like he did for Burnley Shindig?

He’s usually on the right for Newcastle.

No Grealish again :lol:

[Mellberg]

That's how I find him. Decent player and has a great set piece. Goes missing sometimes though.

[Giggles]

That's how I find him. Decent player and has a great set piece. Goes missing sometimes though.

He should definitely be delivering dead balls ahead of Brady anyway.

[Andy]

Southgate is far too defensive for this group of players. If we insist on a back 5 we don't need two holding players. Get Grealish in there.

[Mellberg]

Seven defensive players at home to Denmark is a joke. I'm not too fussed about Grealish as I get to watch him every week, but questions need to start being asked about Southgate. We have a squad full of attacking talent and he's playing a load of shit defenders. It's a problem.

[Shindig]

He’s usually on the right for Newcastle.

I've checked the match reports and he does. That's blown my tiny mind.

[Don]

Mason Mount is starting at least.

[Giggles]

How come no Grealish?

[Don]

He can pass forward and it can't be beaten out of him.

[Shindig]

If he just pulled his socks up, all would be forgiven.

[Mellberg]

Pope
Alexander-Arnold
Gomez
Mings
Saka
Henderson
Ward-Prowse
Sancho
Grealish
Ings
Calvert-Lewin

I reckon the bench could win that :eyemouth:

[Don]

Was just about to post how much of a thrashing that would be :D

[Manc]

Pickford and Maguire to drop a collaborative clanger please.

[Ian]

Interesting that Waistcoat has stuck with Mount despite him accidentally helping us win against Belgium.

I assume he's had a stern talking to.

[randomlegend]

That line-up :sick:

Sancho and Grealish not starting should see Southgate sacked.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Mason Mount > all of them

[Jimmy Floyd]

Christ, if there's one thing worse than the England band, it's the England band being piped in as fake crowd noise in an empty stadium.

[Disco]

Jesus fucking shit, the best thing about no crowds should have been getting rid of those cunts.

[Pen]

This is either going to be 1-0 if you settle or 2-0 if you push on. We aren’t scoring.


That’s a quality save.

Wasn’t far off that. The guy who headed it looked to have had his arms up in the air already :D

Hradecky has been the first keeper we’ve had since Niemi who always plays well for us.

[Giggles]

Wasn’t far off that. The guy who headed it looked to have had his arms up in the air already :D

Hradecky has been the first keeper we’ve had since Niemi who always plays well for us.

We’ve one of those too. Most of the time :uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's special.

[niko_cee]

I can only assume that sort of penalty decision is being given as part of a wider plot to see VAR fully embedded forever. Pickford's such a mong though. As is Walker. As is Maguire.

[Giggles]

I’d be unhappy to see Maguire in our lineup.

[niko_cee]

I know being a clown goes with the territory for this [type of] ref, but, as a wider observation, whatever ills VAR has wrought on the game itself, it has wrought them tenfold on officials and their capacity to referee without the safety net. Such damage probably renders it impossible to ever go back to the way things were.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was going to say, you can't tar them all with this arm-waving comedian's brush.

[niko_cee]

It should also be noted that this England kit is an abomination.

[phonics]

I’ve just seen the premier leagues offer of 50 million quid to the EFL. Not even a million quid a club seems quite tight fisted.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Premier League (as in the central organisation) was absolutely seething about the Liverpool/United thing which it saw as a power grab. They want to do fuck all for English football and give zero fucks.

[Lewis]

I don't buy Manchester United merchandise so they can hand my money to other poorly run clubs.

[niko_cee]

It's probably the whole of the organisation, (all) members included, really. Other than through some serious strong-arming it's hard to see how the make-up-the-numbers Premier League members are ever going to vote for anything that benefits the rest of the league structure in any meaningful way. They are all about keeping them down. Look at all the let's not do relegation this year bleating during the hiatus last season. Maybe Liverpool and United should go it alone with whoever fancies following them (ie at least the entirety of the football league).

[Ian]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/oct/16/harry-maguire-may-miss-manchester-united-game-newcastle-solskjaer

Could be like a new signing, that.

[Don]

Yeah but Pellistri isn't available, big loss :happycry:

"When Harry beat No 1 ranked Belgium it’s a normal day" :D

[Manc]

Some corkers tommorrow. Napoli v Atalanta looks the pick.

[Giggles]

Have we gone full circle back to Serie A, mate?

[niko_cee]

I'm not sure Serie A ever had 'mate' status. Its golden age was before that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nowadays it's 'NFL, mate', presumably much to the chagrin of long term fans like Giggles.

[niko_cee]

You pretty much have to have a lifetime of exposure to gridiron to have even the slightest clue as to what is going on so again, I'm unconvinced about mate status. Or are hipsters the world over extolling the virtues of play-action jet sweeps out of the shotgun as a solution to all life's problems?

[Jimmy Floyd]

No, but then the Barca Mate people didn't really understand the nuances of Pep's innovative high press, they just thought that 'tiki taka' sounded sophisticated.

[Giggles]

The new breed are mainly stats junkies and call the players such things as TB12 and A-Rod.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

UK celebrities (and people from other sports) getting "into it" due to Wembley hosting a few games annoys me.

"And now we go to our special guest, Richard Blackwood..."

[Ian]

It's definitely not "NFL, mate" in the same way that "Barca, mate" was. It's mostly just nerds who got a hard-on for American culture and violence. Nobody's claiming Buffalo vs. Cleveland is art.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's just a stretch for a taste of over-there glamour in the same way we somehow end up holding protests against their police brutality. The actual sport is not terribly different to, say, rugby league, as far as I can see, but no one watches that - who wants to support Wigan when you can 'root for' Philadelphia.

[Gray Fox]

I feel attacked.

[Lofty]

NFL is all about the spectacle and it's worth sitting through the dross plays for the magic moments. It is gloriously mental on and off the pitch and the best yank sport. The boom here is probably a double whammy of the international series and britball being popular (though corona doing it's best to reverse that), with Sky offering Redzone which is the best way to watch it.

[Shindig]

Every time I see a lateral pass in American Football, my brain explodes.

[Don]

Thiago starts, I'm getting the baby oil out.

[Lewis]

It's just a stretch for a taste of over-there glamour in the same way we somehow end up holding protests against their police brutality. The actual sport is not terribly different to, say, rugby league, as far as I can see, but no one watches that - who wants to support Wigan when you can 'root for' Philadelphia.

If league had been allowed to play through the pandemic as originally planned we could be six months into this, and the Wire Flyer would be a national figure.

[randomlegend]

Utd's lineup leaked already by the looks of things.

De gea, AWB, lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, pogba, matic, Mata, Bruno, rashford, greenwood

[igor_balis]

Great tackle pickford

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jesus Pickford.

[John Arne]

How's he got away with that? Offside or not, that's a yellow card. Awful challenge.

[Andy]

Dont understand what happens there, surely Pickfod should be punished wether its offside or not?

I understand that it's not a penalty if he is offside but he should be sent off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Adrian :harold:

[igor_balis]

Pickford killing van dyk will improve the spectacle of the game. Nice one.

[Waffdon]

Dont understand what happens there, surely Pickfod should be punished wether its offside or not?

I understand that it's not a penalty if he is offside but he should be sent off.

Can you not only do that if it’s violent conduct. Doubt they class that as that

[Foe]

Interesting with var then if they know someone is offside but play on. Free hit basically.

Pickford does that sound of lunge often though and seems to get away with it because he’s a keeper.

[Don]

Love the retardedness of that refereeing decision. That was no challenge, that was violent conduct from the cunt.

They must have created Thiago in a lab somewhere, that technique is computer game stuff ffs.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dont understand what happens there, surely Pickfod should be punished wether its offside or not?

I understand that it's not a penalty if he is offside but he should be sent off.

I think it's only violent conduct which is punished after play has stopped? Not sure the exact definition.

[niko_cee]

Can you not only do that if it’s violent conduct. Doubt they class that as that

Endangering an opponent is violent conduct.

It is a bit of a grey area though, seeing as the offside negates the play, so you end up in a rules paradox. What would happen if he'd just come out and lamped him?

[Don]

Jesus, the still of that tackle is making me cross my legs.

[Dark Soldier]

Finally switched over and bought IPTV rather than online streams. Fucking glorious.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

DCL is a hero.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've been half watching the Old Firm and Rangers have played Celtic off the park.

[Boydy]

Fuck off was that offside.

[Don]

Please please let COVID kill off the little that is left of this sport :sick:

[phonics]

Both my fpl players score and it ends in a draw. Perfect result.

[Manc]

Game's gone.

[Lewis]

Everton will never beat Liverpool again.

[John Arne]

Judging by this, you are now allowed to score with your upper arm.

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[Jimmy Floyd]

He can score with his shoulder blade, has anyone got any shirtless pics of Mane from behind? Maybe it protrudes beyond where that guy's arse is.

[Don]

Don't even fucking give them the oxygen by posting and discussing pictures of it. It's a cancer and a fine indictment of dickhead society's obsession with technology.

[Lewis]

If they had drawn the line properly his foot would be off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If Everton had scored from the free kick at the end it would have been a perfect ending.

[Don]

There's a cracking zoomed in photo of the VVD offside ehere they've drawn his armpit from his elbow. But I won't post it because I am rising above it.

What I'm not rising above is that cam addicted aftertiming beta cuck posting shit.

[randomlegend]

Don't even fucking give them the oxygen by posting and discussing pictures of it. It's a cancer and a fine indictment of dickhead society's obsession with technology.

Coming from team xG

[SvN]

The tears :cry:

Liverpool look crap, and have done since the restart. They'll be lucky to finish in the top four, especially if VVD is out for any significant period.

[Don]

Coming from team xG

Yo, virginface, xG is an analysis tool, it has no impact on the game itself.


The tears :cry:

Liverpool look crap, and have done since the restart. They'll be lucky to finish in the top four, especially if VVD is out for any significant period.

Lol. 1.7-2.3 Xg away to the best team in the league. We're a Pellistri short of dominance.

[phonics]

The best team in the league :D

They’ve played a bunch of nobodies. It was so obvious I’ve had Calvert Lewin from the beginning and I’m an idiot.

[Lewis]

Liverpool will stop being crap at some point, which everyone else can't do, so they should be fine.

[niko_cee]

xG had it right then?

Meh, I hate VAR, but Liverpool got loads of odd offsides last year so I guess this is leveling it out (although the Mané one is quite perplexing). It removes all the joy from the game. That said, if you're going to have it, then it needs to be the bullshit absolute line/armpit offside style and I just hope they don't waiver from that to some sort of margin of error/ruling on the field stands type fiasco (as is the case with penalties within the system).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's a cracking zoomed in photo of the VVD offside ehere they've drawn his armpit from his elbow. But I won't post it because I am rising above it.

What I'm not rising above is that cam addicted aftertiming beta cuck posting shit.

:console:

[Manc]

VAR will be done away with once the European Super League is formed. English football will be left with Sean Dyche endlessly discussing anatomy.

[niko_cee]

Loving Wycombe's goal against Millwall. I'm not sure I'll ever tire of this madness of getting 'keepers to 'be good on the ball'. They're shit. It's why they are goalkeepers. When you are a kid it's always the shittest player who goes in goal, and this extends all the way through the system.

[Don]

Werner playing upfront and raping teams. Who woulda funk it?

[phonics]

People complaining about VAR while the real nail in the coffin of the game is us playing in dark blue today.

[Waffdon]

Werner playing upfront and raping teams. Who woulda funk it?

It’s Pulisic being in the team. He’ll be top 10 in the world in a few years. Still Zyiech to replace mount too (maybe not)

[Reg]

Is there any hope of VAR being binned? :(

Calvert-Lewin is brilliant. Best jump bar Ronaldo?

Pickford can't be no1 for England. There's always the possibility that he does completely the wrong thing if the only choice isn't to dive sideways (which he's great at, but which doesn't make up for the calamities).

[Don]

Waff, you gotta stop these Chelsea takes, they're doing you harm.

I really thought Southampton were better than prolonging the top level career of BLM's answer to Mason Mount but in all fairness they are down to the bones.

[Don]

Also, someone put Havertz out of his misery already with a loan offer back to Bundesliga.

[Lewis]

Calvert-Lewin will revert to normal once crowds come back and his composure disappears, so Everton want to be cashing in in January.

[Lofty]

Glad I picked Chelsea for this round of Last Man Standing :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, someone put Havertz out of his misery already with a loan offer back to Bundesliga.

Suck your Nan's tits.

[Trancemeister]

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Walker, Dias, Ake, Cancelo, Rodrigo, Mahrez, Foden, Silva, Sterling, Aguero.

Arsenal XI: Leno, Bellerin, Holding, Gabriel, Tierney, Saka, Xhaka, Ceballos, Willian, Aubameyang, Pepe.


Aguero is back.

[Don]

Throws on a flaky Arab, a RB in CM and 'Tammy' and looks to park the bus for 30 minutes :happycry:

[Waffdon]

Waff, you gotta stop these Chelsea takes, they're doing you harm.

I really thought Southampton were better than prolonging the top level career of BLM's answer to Mason Mount but in all fairness they are down to the bones.

Me and you would have them top three on our own. Lampard is confirmed fraud

[phonics]

Another defensive masterclass from 'Frank'.

250 million quid well spent. Roman's going to have him murdered.

[randomlegend]

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Don

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[Don]

Their ACLs are about as secure as your missus' hymen, pipe down.

[Waffdon]

Another defensive masterclass from 'Frank'.

250 million quid well spent. Roman's going to have him murdered.

They scored enough last year. Clear as day the issue was in defence. Suppose Kepa was back

[phonics]

This rule where you can spend the 30 minutes prior to the match running non stop betting ads but during the 7 minutes at half time you can’t is so dumb.

[randomlegend]

Rattled beyond belief

[Andy]

Waff, you gotta stop these Chelsea takes, they're doing you harm.

I really thought Southampton were better than prolonging the top level career of BLM's answer to Mason Mount but in all fairness they are down to the bones.

Are you talking about Walcott? He created more chances than anyone else and usually takes players a while to get used to the inside right/left positions in this system.

[Boydy]

xG had it right then?

Meh, I hate VAR, but Liverpool got loads of odd offsides last year so I guess this is leveling it out (although the Mané one is quite perplexing). It removes all the joy from the game. That said, if you're going to have it, then it needs to be the bullshit absolute line/armpit offside style and I just hope they don't waiver from that to some sort of margin of error/ruling on the field stands type fiasco (as is the case with penalties within the system).

Bring back the daylight rule if you want an absolute.

[Andy]

In a situation that tight you should always give benefit to the attacker.

[phonics]

How are people still saying ‘bring back’ daylight. It literally never existed as a rule.

[phonics]

City are breaking our press way too easily. We’re going to get destroyed.

[Don]

Are you talking about Walcott? He created more chances than anyone else and usually takes players a while to get used to the inside right/left positions in this system.

Yeah, he was superb in second half tbf.


Bring back the daylight rule if you want an absolute.

The endgame if they persist with technology is sensors on the players. Placed on say middle of shirt or sleeves/boots. That would cut out this shite.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Are you talking about Walcott? He created more chances than anyone else and usually takes players a while to get used to the inside right/left positions in this system.

Walcott is always devastatingly good against Chelsea. Don't expect anything the rest of the time.

[phonics]

City are breaking our press way too easily. We’re going to get destroyed.

City break the press. They score. Too easy.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Is there anyone in football who looks thicker than Phil Foden?

[Spikey M]

Yes and he's the England Captain.

[phonics]

Nevilles been watching too much United thinking that was going to be given as a penalty. They’re the only ones allowed that sort of thing.

[niko_cee]

The endgame if they persist with technology is sensors on the players. Placed on say middle of shirt or sleeves/boots. That would cut out this shite.

I was thinking this, but then imagine the sort of shenanigans the likes of Barry Fry would be getting up to tinkering with the sensors. You'd end up having to chip the players and scan them in and out of games like items in a supermarket to make sure they were on the level. I suppose, at least with a fully technological solution you could maybe have a more instantaneous decision, although determining when the ball is played is always going to allow for human error.

[Don]

Saka is such a talent. Shame he'll be restrained as some sort of wing-back/full-back for England in behind Marcus Mandela and Co.

[phonics]

Martinez would have caught that. Leno is alright but he cannot catch a ball to save his life.

[Raoul Duke]

Is there anyone in football who looks thicker than Phil Foden?

Ivan Perisic looks like a tracksuit wearing chav. Tevez looks like an idiot too

[The Merse]

Martinez would have caught that. Leno is alright but he cannot catch a ball to save his life.

This is my issue. Martinez held those big saves or parried with direction and purpose. Leno is an excellent stopper but fuck knows where the ball bobbles out to.

Not a bad performance so far, mind. Tierney, Gabriel and Saka do bode well for the left side of the team.

[Kikó]

Hairy hands saying it's an ACL for vvd and a long time out

https://twitter.com/AnfieldWatch/status/1317516427004420099?s=19

[niko_cee]

Does the official PGMOL line regarding the Pickford challenge actually mean that if a player is offside then you basically get a free shot at them as long as you can sort of be said to be going for the ball? Doesn't seem like an interpretation that is going to stick, even though I sort of understand why it went that way.

[SvN]

Hairy hands saying it's an ACL for vvd and a long time out

https://twitter.com/AnfieldWatch/status/1317516427004420099?s=19

I reiterate my previous post. 4th if they're lucky.

[randomlegend]

Their ACLs are about as secure as your missus' hymen, pipe down.

:***)

[phonics]

Does the official PGMOL line regarding the Pickford challenge actually mean that if a player is offside then you basically get a free shot at them as long as you can sort of be said to be going for the ball? Doesn't seem like an interpretation that is going to stick, even though I sort of understand why it went that way.

Yes as long as you do it with your foot. Brush the mans moustache with a hand and it’s a three game ban instead. Good rules.

[Lewis]

I could handle Tottenham winning the league if it was Jose Mourinho doing it.

[niko_cee]

I'd be more worried about Van Dijk if every other team in the league wasn't pretty dreadful. Should be an interesting season of ups and downs.

[Giggles]

If Mane lives then it’s as good as won.

[SvN]

I'd be more worried about Van Dijk if every other team in the league wasn't pretty dreadful. Should be an interesting season of ups and downs.

Liverpool were conceding 4 or 5 per game (if I recall correctly) before he signed. The wheels are well and truly off.

[Kikó]

Brush the man's moustache is my favourite sex position.

[Reg]

Van Dijk out? That's about three clean sheets for the rest of the league calendar then. Although I see City are currently 1-0 up - how does Dias look?

[Spoonsky]

Don't remember the last time I seethed so hard as this Liverpool game :drool:

[Trancemeister]

Newcastle — Darlow, Lewis, Fernández, Lascelles(C), Krafth, Saint-Maximin, Hayden, Shelvey, Hendrick, Wilson, Joelinton.

Man Utd — De Gea, Shaw, Maguire(C), Lindelöf, Wan-Bissaka, Fred, McTominay, James, Fernandes, Mata, Rashford.

[randomlegend]

Utd line-up is rancid. Greenwood not even on the bench is concerning, guess he must have an injury.

[Kikó]

James hattrick or ole out.

[SvN]

Jesus. I wish I hadn't seen that lineup.

[niko_cee]

Liverpool were conceding 4 or 5 per game (if I recall correctly) before he signed. The wheels are well and truly off.

I'd happily go back to that season before Allison and Van Dijk signed (having got the title hoodoo out of the way). Control is so dull. 7-6 European Cup Semi Finals. :drool:

[niko_cee]

That United line-up is seriously :cab: so they'll probably stroll an easy 3-0 somehow.

[Shindig]

I cannot begin to speculate.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If Newcastle don't beat that lineup by at least 2 goals they're shit.

[SvN]

Fernandes hat trick of penalties is our only hope.

[Offshore Toon]

Are there any streaming sites about that don't go down every five minutes?

[Don]

Jesus, I called VVD's ACL but I eas only pissing about. If Matip stays fit it's manageable, otherwise, we might actually be involved in a title challenge.

What the fuck was that Arsenal second half performance? You're chasing the game, have you got nothing other than passing it between your back four and hoping the oppositiin leave gaps, you embarrasing cunts?

[Don]

Are there any streaming sites about that don't go down every five minutes?

Hesgoal.

[Don]

Gahahahaha.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Horrendous.

[randomlegend]

:lol:

[niko_cee]

Cadiz beat Real, Crotone lead Juve, yeah, football's totally normal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why was he even trying to get a foot on that?

The sooner he's taken out of the side and given some cake the better.

[Don]

Is there a more naturally gifted footballer to have ever graced the game than ASM? He's pure playground stuff and it's fucking amazing entertainment. Makes Ronaldinho look like Cristiano.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The police beating clown \0/.

[Danny]

Englands Brave :cool:

[Raoul Duke]

Liverpool will probably be ok if one of Allison or VVD is around. The Spanish keeper is some sort of Make A Wish candidate, surely?

Slabhead :cool: Stick that up your Elgin Marbles

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Liverpool can have him, begrudgingly, for £120m to replace VVD.

[niko_cee]

How has this:


"It must be offside with VAR, it's what everyone wants," Henderson told BT Sport. "I think they bend the lines sometimes to make it offside. I'm not sure how they do it, I've seen it before."

Not drawn more comment?

:cab:

[Kikó]

They call it the Chinese video ref.

[Don]

He was joking. Lol if he gets a fine for it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How has this:



Not drawn more comment?

:cab:

It's rude to lol at mongs.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is association football, not a comedy club. Get him banned.

[niko_cee]

What the fuck was that Arsenal second half performance? You're chasing the game, have you got nothing other than passing it between your back four and hoping the oppositiin leave gaps, you embarrasing cunts?

:D

I didn't see much of the game, but tuned in for some of the last 10 minutes and did think it was a bit odd to see the team that was losing just casually passing it around the back.

Does Bruce still have that ridiculously bad record against United or did it break with that Longstaff goal last season?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:lol:

That's never a penalty.

[Dark Soldier]

VAR is amazing

[Waffdon]

How many penalties this season?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Should have hopped.

[Lofty]

See there is mounting uproar about Aguero touching Sian Massey's shoulder :D

[Danny]

Thats never a pen but thats a top save.

[randomlegend]

See there is mounting uproar about Aguero touching Sian Massey's shoulder :D

It was pretty weird to be honest.

I've no idea if that should have been a penalty to be honest. Good save, not a great penalty.

[Don]

See there is mounting uproar about Aguero touching Sian Massey's shoulder :D

Link us, I did think about that for a while after seeing it :D

Also, is RL behind the VAR controls today? Have they started offering it out to special kids like the team mascot?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Daniel James needs to transition to athletics.

[Danny]

https://streamja.com/MBONl

The Aguero thing for those who havent seen it (I hadnt)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If that was the ref he'd be getting a card.

[Giggles]

The women are in uproar even though he'd do the same to a man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brunoooooooooooo.

[Dark Soldier]

What a goal

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The women are in uproar even though he'd do the same to a man.

He wouldn't do it to a ref (or a male linesman).

[randomlegend]

What a finish

[Lewis]

Harry Maguire started the move as well. Answering his critics.

[Giggles]

He wouldn't do it to a ref (or a male linesman).



He would though. Loads do.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't imagine Wan Bissaka meant that finish.

[Danny]

I would have liked to see some Telles today.

[randomlegend]

TAA not fit to polish his boots going forwards.

[Danny]

I can't imagine Wan Bissaka meant that finish.

What a gangly don :cool:

[Don]

It's so British to be appalled by some non-threatening physical contact. All the young white girls me and the bros groom are the same.

[Kikó]

He would though. Loads do.

Yeah, I don't see what he did as that aggressive or that specific to it being a female official.

United's second is great - Van de Beek first pass, Mata's first time ball, the run by Rashford and slot in and then the finish from Fernandes. Much needed victory.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well deserved for Rashford.

Lovely pass too.

[Shindig]

Meh. We don't get after these top sides when their heads are down. Deserved loss.

[Waffdon]

Ole IN

[Smjffy]

I wasn't even a touch invested in the Everton v Liverpool game despite it being quite a decent match but that decision at the end to rule out the winner....pfft. I really do feel like it's game over as far as football is concerned. It's been awful without supporters and even though we knew VAR is shit, that's just taking the absolute piss.

Maybe it's because we finally won the title (not that it was that enjoyable given how it ended) but I really do just think the game is dead.

[Shindig]

Until the crowds are back, this will all just feel like a formality.

[Spikey M]

I can't get used to the canned crowd noise. It's awful. I understand its purpose, but fuck me it's soulless.