Predict the PL 20/21

[-james-]

Some of you will know this format from the Set-Piece Menu podcast.

Someone can do threads for the other traditional pre-season prediction stuff, but here I'd like to try and rigorously assess who is the best pre-season Judge on this website.

Predict the exact order that the Premier League finishes in this season, points for how far off you were at the end of the season, most points wins.

https://form.jotformeu.com/71911815802353

Group name: TTH2020

[-james-]

1: Manchester City
2: Liverpool
3: Chelsea
4: Manchester United
5: Arsenal
6: Tottenham Hotspur
7: Wolverhampton Wanderers
8: Everton
9: Leicester City
10: Southampton
11: Brighton & Hove Albion
12: Leeds United
13: West Ham United
14: Burnley
15: Sheffield United
16: Newcastle United
17: West Bromwich Albion
18: Crystal Palace
19: Aston Villa
20: Fulham

[Baz]

I’m way into this.

There was something similar (https://www.reddit.com/r/PremierLeague/comments/fa9wx5/remember_when_we_tried_to_predict_the_final/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on Reddit last season, which was fun to track.

[Giggles]

1. Liverpool
18. Aston Villa
19. Burnley
20. Fulham

[SincereTheRebel]

Anyone do thst skybet predictor thing?

Super6

[Baz]

1: Liverpool
2: Manchester City
3: Chelsea
4: Arsenal
5: Tottenham Hotspur
6: Everton
7: Manchester United
8: Leeds United
9: Wolverhampton Wanderers
10: Leicester City
11: Sheffield United
12: Southampton
13: Aston Villa
14: Newcastle United
15: West Bromwich Albion
16: Burnley
17: Brighton & Hove Albion
18: Crystal Palace
19: Fulham
20: West Ham United

[Gray Fox]

1. Manchester City
2. Liverpool
3. Manchester United
4. Chelsea
5. Arsenal
6. Tottenham
7. Leicester
8. Everton
9. Wolves
10. Sheffield United
11. Leeds
12. Burnley
13. Southampton
14. Newcastle
15. Brighton
16. Crystal Palace
17. Aston Villa
18. West Ham
19. West Brom
20. Fulham

Very tight at the top I think. Any late signings could swing that one way or another. As for the bottom, the bottom 6 probably all deserve to go down.

[Jimmy Floyd]

01: Manchester City
02: Chelsea
03: Liverpool
04: Manchester United
05: Everton
06: Arsenal
07: Leeds United
08: Tottenham Hotspur
09: Leicester City
10: Wolverhampton Wanderers
11: Southampton
12: Newcastle United
13: Sheffield United
14: Burnley
15: Crystal Palace
16: Aston Villa
17: West Bromwich Albion
18: Brighton & Hove Albion
19: West Ham United
20: Fulham

The flip point was 11th. Anyone 11th and above is ok; 12th and below could all go down.

[Shindig]

1. Liverpool
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Spurs
5. Arsenal
6. Man Utd
7. Leicester
8. Southampton
9. Sheff Utd
10. Everton
11. Wolves
12. Crystal Palace
13. Burnley
14. Leeds
15. West Ham
16. Brighton
17. Newcastle
18. Aston Villa
19. Fulham
20. West Brom

Initially I had Newcastle down as 18th but there's a lot of tripe (us included) at the sharp end. Brighton and Burnley could flirt with it again and you never know what'll happen with Leeds. West Ham are hard to figure out. They seem destined for the drop but they can dig themselves out of it. For a surprise European qualifier, I'd consider Southampton taking their form into this season. Liverpool and City will be streets ahead.

[Spikey M]

As long as West Ham get relegated I don't really care. I've lost all interest.

[-james-]

I warmed to West Ham over the post-corona period. They've got a good thing going on with kicking the ball in front of Bowen & Antonio and having them chase it.

Fulham are already down. Strong chance the other two are Newcastle and Palace, I had the former nailed on but unlike Palace they seem to actually be attempting to improve their starting line-up.

[Lewis]

City, Liverpool, United, Jose Mourinho, Chelsea, who cares. Unless he miraculously wins other things, Ole Gunnar Binman should be sacked if he doesn't break eighty points.

[Yevrah]

City, Liverpool, United, Jose Mourinho, Chelsea, who cares. Unless he miraculously wins other things, Ole Gunnar Binman should be sacked if he doesn't break eighty points.

You're not buying into the idea that he's done a decent job then?

[Lewis]

He has, and he seems to have the right ideas about transfers and everything else. I just don't think he's a good enough coach to win the league as it currently is, so unless by June you could convince yourself that he's only a player or two away, then, assuming somebody proven is available, I would shuffle him upstairs into the puppet director role they keep touting around.

[Lofty]

I warmed to West Ham over the post-corona period. They've got a good thing going on with kicking the ball in front of Bowen & Antonio and having them chase it.

Fulham are already down. Strong chance the other two are Newcastle and Palace, I had the former nailed on but unlike Palace they seem to actually be attempting to improve their starting line-up.

Isn't Moyes on the verge of walking and they are looking to sell all their talent to balance the books?

[Don]

We got till October to change it. Up the thread on the day before please.

1: Liverpool
2: Manchester City
3: Chelsea
4: Tottenham Hotspur
5: Manchester United
6: Southampton
7: Everton
8: Arsenal
9: Crystal Palace
10: Leeds United
11: Brighton & Hove Albion
12: Sheffield United
13: Wolverhampton Wanderers
14: Burnley
15: Leicester City
16: West Ham United
17: Newcastle United
18: Aston Villa
19: West Bromwich Albion
20: Fulham

[Lewis]

Have I missed Everton stopping being Everton? People seem to be fancying them a bit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I put them 5th out of fleeting Carlomania, but they'll probably just come 9th like always.

[Don]

https://resources.evertonfc.com/photo-resources/2020/09/08/6c79b6a8-a825-460f-8922-18743fed1a21/Abdoulaye-Doucoure-08.09.20-010.jpg?width=900&height=506

[Giggles]

https://resources.evertonfc.com/photo-resources/2020/09/08/6c79b6a8-a825-460f-8922-18743fed1a21/Abdoulaye-Doucoure-08.09.20-010.jpg?width=900&height=506

18th it is.

[-james-]

We got till October to change it. Up the thread on the day before please.



Oh, that's bollocks. Completely defeats the object.

[Dave.]

1. Manchester City
2. Liverpool
3. Manchester United
4. Chelsea
5. Tottenham Hotspur
6. Arsenal
7. Wolverhampton Wanderers
8. Everton
9. Leicester City
10. Southampton
11. Leeds United
12. Brighton & Hove Albion
13. West Ham United
14. Burnley
15. Sheffield United
16. Newcastle United
17. Aston Villa
18. Crystal Palace
19. Fulham
20. West Bromwich Albion

I think there's a clear bottom four, then anyone from Newcastle up to Leeds could finish in any order, Southampton are in a league of their own in midtable, Everton, Wolves and Leicester battle for seventh, Man United, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal battle for third and Man City and Liverpool will have very close battle at the top.

[Lofty]

Everton's two great hopes are a pair of south american midfielders who have never played in England before, what could possibly go wrong.

[Baz]

Oh, that's bollocks. Completely defeats the object. Have you seen this? The internet is trying to predict the final Premier League table: http://bit.ly/tiPPL2 ;)

[phonics]

Can I enter twice, I want to crowdsource one off a group of friends who know nothing about football and see if they beat me.

[Reg]

1. Man City
2. Liverpool
3. Man Utd
4. Chelsea
5. Arsenal
6. Everton
7. Tottenham
8. Wolves
9. Leicester
10. Sheffield United
11. Brighton
12. Leeds
13. Newcastle
14. Southampton
15. Villa
16. Burnley
17. West Ham
18. Palace
19. Fulham
20. West Brom

[John Arne]

I'm a little baffled as to why a lot of people are tipping Leeds to have a decent season. They have no goals in them, at all. 17th or below for them. Some bloke on the of the pods said in reference to the upcoming Liverpool-Leeds game "Leeds might just play then off the park for a while, before Liverpool grab a tight victory". :/

[Giggles]

It's fashionable.

[phonics]

I'm a little baffled as to why a lot of people are tipping Leeds to have a decent season. They have no goals in them, at all. 17th or below for them. Some bloke on the of the pods said in reference to the upcoming Liverpool-Leeds game "Leeds might just play then off the park for a while, before Liverpool grab a tight victory". :/


Most people don’t watch the championship and the mix of Bielsa and them battering a shit Arsenal for 45 minutes in an FA cup game leads to people thinking they’ll be Pep 0.8.

[Mike]

1: Liverpool
2: Manchester City
3: Manchester United
4: Chelsea
5: Arsenal
6: Leicester City
7: Tottenham Hotspur
8: Wolverhampton Wanderers
9: Southampton
10: Burnley
11: Everton
12: Leeds United
13: Sheffield United
14: Crystal Palace
15: Brighton & Hove Albion
16: Newcastle United
17: Fulham
18: Aston Villa
19: West Ham United
20: West Bromwich Albion

[SincereTheRebel]

Anybody interested in predicting each game weeks fixtures?Its similar to super six, but you predict a whole league results each week.

https://www.predictthefootball.com

[John Arne]

1: Man City
2: Chelsea
3: Man Utd
4: Liverpool
5: Arsenal
6: Tottenham Hotspur
7. Everton
8: Wolverhampton Wanderers
9: Southampton
10. Leicester City
11: Sheffield United
12. West Ham
13: Newcastle
14. Aston Villa
15. Burnley
16: Brighton & Hove Albion
17: Leeds
18: Fulham
19: Crystal Palace
20: West Bromwich Albion

[mugbull]

1. Man City
2. Man Utd
3. Liverpool
4. Tottenham
5. Chelsea
6. Arsenal
7. Everton
8. West Brom
9. Wolves
10. Southampton
11. Leeds
12. West Ham
13. Aston Villa
14. (the decline of) Leicester City
15. Burnley
16. Sheffield Utd
17. Fulham
18. Newcastle
19. Crystal Palace
20. Brighton

[Reg]

No way we're finishing bottom, mok. Second year of Potter promises good things.

How come you think Leicester will decline that much? I agree they didn't look too good post-lockdown. Or even post-December ish.

[phonics]

Anyone predicting West Brom at 8 needs to give their head a wobble. They're not bad but they're not good either. They're primo 14-17 material.

[Giggles]

14-20 surely.

[SincereTheRebel]

I cant copy and paste my selections but Wolves to win and WBA, Villa and Palace to the league below.

[mugbull]

No way we're finishing bottom, mok. Second year of Potter promises good things.

How come you think Leicester will decline that much? I agree they didn't look too good post-lockdown. Or even post-December ish.

There's too many good teams and they've looked awful. And Vardy isn't getting any younger. Their squad is probably 8th-10th but I think they'll have an awful start.


Anyone predicting West Brom at 8 needs to give their head a wobble. They're not bad but they're not good either. They're primo 14-17 material.

You're right, I've just had a look through their squad list and it's tripe. Dunno why I had them that high, think someone's hype got to me

[Don]

Just on Leeds, stats have proven they're a mid-table prem side. You mongs need to jump on the bandwagon before you're embarrased a la Studge.

[Giggles]

Stats from what? Playing in the championship?

[Don]

Yes.

[Giggles]

Yes.

So stats have proven nothing other than they're good in the championship then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yes.

[Don]

I ain't got the willpower to elighten you folk like I did back in the glorious days gone by. Just choose your side and have my e-victory ready for collection in an excellent condition.

[Lewis]

I think you technically got Daniel Sturridge wrong since you never specified that he would only be good for sixteen months and then never do anything ever again. You ended up being about as right as Saint was about Geovanni.

[Max Power]

No way we're finishing bottom, mok. Second year of Potter promises good things.

How come you think Leicester will decline that much? I agree they didn't look too good post-lockdown. Or even post-December ish.

Fell off a cliff form wise, partly due to lack of squad depth. The squad is the same size now (Chilwell out, Castange in) and we are about to play a compressed season with Europa league as well.

1 fit centre back for today’s game, key players Maddison and Ricardo still missing.

Anywhere from 7th - 14th i would say at this point.

[Lofty]

I'm a little baffled as to why a lot of people are tipping Leeds to have a decent season. They have no goals in them, at all. 17th or below for them. Some bloke on the of the pods said in reference to the upcoming Liverpool-Leeds game "Leeds might just play then off the park for a while, before Liverpool grab a tight victory". :/

:D

[Giggles]

:D

Did they play Liverpool off the park?

[John Arne]

:D

They have 0 points, so very much on track for 17th below :)

Also, I presume other teams won't hand them two 2 goals like Liverpool did. Credit where it's due though, they played well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They will play like that every week and win a lot of games because of it. In their case you can't look down the names and add up their talent, it's not a normal team.

[igor_balis]

There's too many good teams and they've looked awful. And Vardy isn't getting any younger. Their squad is probably 8th-10th but I think they'll have an awful start.



You're right, I've just had a look through their squad list and it's tripe. Dunno why I had them that high, think someone's hype got to me

Even I think we're probably going down, although I think having a decent manager and a settled, happy and hungry squad might just be enough to finish above 3 teams IN CRISIS. Like, player for player West Ham are probz better than us, but I reckon we'll finish above them.

[igor_balis]

They will play like that every week and win a lot of games because of it. In their case you can't look down the names and add up their talent, it's not a normal team.

Yes, I'm convinced Leeds with be absolutely fine. I just feel like a #bielsaside will find getting 40 or so points in the prem easier than they did getting 90 in the championship. Comfortably top half by about game 25, then a bit of a collapse when their players are all knackered and the other teams have figured out how to nullify them, but still easily safe in like 14th.

[Shindig]

They'll lose every game 4-3 and Bielsa will spend the year moaning about VAR.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bielsa doesn't moan about anything. Probably the greatest of all his attributes.

[-james-]

Leeds are good, but lol at the overreaction to yesterday. They scored the few chances they created (how often does Van Dijk make that error?), and looked a mess at the back.

Pretty similar to the Norwich game on the opening day of last season.

[Giggles]

For the most cynical man in the world about the sport Jimmy has some hard on for Bielsa.

[Lewis]

Weren't Leicester initially riding high last year because Jamie Vardy was scoring every chance he got?

[phonics]

Leeds are good, but lol at the overreaction to yesterday. They scored the few chances they created (how often does Van Dijk make that error?), and looked a mess at the back.

Pretty similar to the Norwich game on the opening day of last season.

They also used up Bamfords goal for the season in a loss.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im currently position 682 out of the 682 entries. There is still plenty of time left.