Coronavirus Death Thread

[Kikó]

Partially - S1 still holds up I think. Probably S2 as well but then I think it loses it. The ridiculousness of the situations seem to be more apparent plus newer series are just so much better written.

[John]

Post my fuckin what?

He wants to see how many interactions your tweets get so he can show you his numbers and lol, because he's an intensely petty cunt with nothing to boast about but a meagre Twitter following and a gym in his building.

[bruhnaldo]

He has 80 followers surely not lol

[Yevrah]

Partially - S1 still holds up I think. Probably S2 as well but then I think it loses it. The ridiculousness of the situations seem to be more apparent plus newer series are just so much better written.

How far through did you get?

I haven't watched it for a while so I'll report back. So far the only jarring thing has been the acting by the actress who plays Teri Bauer. She's bad.

[Adramelch]

The president of a local gypsy "commune" in Greece stated on TV something along the lines of "we need help from the state, with the lockdown gypsies can't go out to beg for money, steal from people, provide for their families". :D

[Waffdon]

He has 80 followers surely not lol

That’s what I was thinking. 6 years on Twitter with 13.7k tweets and only 80 followers. I must have about 3x that in bots alone.

[Lewis]

Sidenote, though, ask if she also prefers "Persia" to "IRAN".

I had an Iranian housemate for a year and she insisted that she was 'Persian'. Proper bird, bowling around with her hair out and all that. She's probably in prison over there now.

[Spikey M]

The president of a local gypsy "commune" in Greece stated on TV something along the lines of "we need help from the state, with the lockdown gypsies can't go out to beg for money, steal from people, provide for their families". :D

You should Furlough the poor bastards.

[Lofty]

Has our lockdown officially been extended yet?

I've ignored news for the last couple of days in favour of starting 24 and Fallout 4 again, which has been bliss.

Same on Fallout 4, me and Curie in matching outfits rampaging around the commonwealth, never played and of the dlc last time round so it's a lovely old time.

Regarding the unprecedented nature of things and comparison to the financial crash, it's worth pointing out during in 2008 apparently our finance chiefs came crying to the government when the shit hit the fan and Darling asked them what their contingency plans were, to which they said they had none.

This virus outbreak is more unprecedented than the 2008 financial crash but in contrast to the financial chiefs the NHS actually produced a report outlining this scenario in 2016 which was buried because it cost too much, the Brexit bus funding having yet been secured.

[Kikó]

How far through did you get?

I haven't watched it for a while so I'll report back. So far the only jarring thing has been the acting by the actress who plays Teri Bauer. She's bad.

Some of S3 then stopped. America as the squeeky clean policeman lost a bit of it's truthiness compared to the immediate post 9/11 world.

[Yevrah]

Same on Fallout 4, me and Curie in matching outfits rampaging around the commonwealth, never played and of the dlc last time round so it's a lovely old time.

I barely played Far Harbor or Nuka World so I started and ran straight to the former this time. Reaching Far Harbor at level two in just a vault suit - nearly 10 hours in now and I've just managed to kill the trappers outside the main town. :drool:

[phonics]

File this one under 'lol get fucked m8':

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[Raoul Duke]

I barely played Far Harbor or Nuka World so I started and ran straight to the former this time. Reaching Far Harbor at level two in just a vault suit - nearly 10 hours in now and I've just managed to kill the trappers outside the main town. :drool:

You're going to get molested when a Fogcrawler turns up :D

[Yevrah]

You're going to get molested when a Fogcrawler turns up :D

Already killed one. :cool:

[Lofty]

I seem to be getting one shotted by pissing Super mutants 200 yards away a lot which I don't recall.

[phonics]

Get to the fucking thread you animals.

[Lofty]

Supposedly ITV have got Vallance admitting on the record they cocked up the strategy regarding testing.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/growth-in-surveillance-may-be-hard-to-scale-back-after-coronavirus-pandemic-experts-say

This is the sort of dread I like to wake up and kick my mornings off to. Notch the fightback against tech being accelerated as another glorious byproduct of this beaut.

[Spikey M]

These Care Home figures are going to be obscene based on the percentages this fella on BBC has just given. 47% of deaths in London Care Homes last week had Covid19 on the death certificate. :|

Edit: now they're saying these figures are 2 weeks old?

[Shindig]

So ... if this BBC ticker is right, 16,000 people+ had Covid on the death certificate in that week (ending 3rd April) alone.

EDIT: The ticker's bollocks.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglan dandwales

I still find this a nightmare to read and follow.

[niko_cee]

Figures released on Tuesday by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show that across England and Wales, one in five of the 16,387 death certificates issued that week mentioned the disease.

13,109 died of something else.

[Don]

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglan dandwales


We only really have 1 full week of COVID deaths, so we need a few more weeks to see the full picture, but the spike is real.

https://gyazo.com/4be856073ee0a0156ff29d0d001af04c.jpeg

We await John's updated graph.

[Shindig]

Actually, the care home figures in this (as of 7th April) seem ... minor. 217 in total across England & Wales.

[Queenslander]

I hope this increases English migration to Australia.

[Yevrah]

Apparently we're about to recommend the use of face masks. Our experts really are the best experts.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I hate face masks. Fucking hate them. They are the most dehumanising item of clothing going.

[Yevrah]

I hate face masks. Fucking hate them. They are the most dehumanising item of clothing going.

Really? I can think of another one that a fair few people in England wear...

[Don]

Keep your missus' bedroom props put of this, he's talking about in public.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Really? I can think of another one that a fair few people in England wear...

Exactly.

[Baz]

Yeah, bumbags slung over one shoulder are far worse.

[Giggles]

Flatcaps are the bottom of the barrel. Unless you're someone's grandad.

[Shindig]

Or on a farm.

[Lewis]

I've ordered an Australian cork hat to swat the virus away.

[Queenslander]

I've ordered an Australian cork hat to swat the virus away.


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[Shindig]

Forest fires near Chernobyl. Excellent. :moop:

[Spikey M]

2020 really is a cunt.

[Yeldoow]

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[mugbull]

Do the near-dead regularly make a valiant effort to see it through to the new year, or do thousands of people just wilt in their homes around that time and aren't discovered for two weeks?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Mate's dad has just croaked from this, he was definitely an underlying health conditions man but still was more or less fine this time last week. Fuck.

[Don]

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What we now expect to see is that red line to plummet and track below the blue area for the final 30 weeks of the year.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

[John Arne]

America's priorities are fucked. Trump and now Cuomo holding press conferences with slideshows regarding founding fathers and shit and how the media are a big bunch of liars. Jesus Christ.

[Yevrah]

America's priorities are fucked. Trump and now Cuomo holding press conferences with slideshows regarding founding fathers and shit and how the media are a big bunch of liars. Jesus Christ.

I've just seen the video he presented last night. It was incredible. Beyond words incredible.

[Don]

Hook a bruvva up.

[Yevrah]

About an hour or so into this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d4Eqbau4l4

The rest of it has been gold too.

[Ian]

He's genuinely demented.

[Yevrah]

The one line he has, which I actually agree he did very well on, was closing down flights. But as that's all he has he just brings every question back to it. It's fascinating to watch.

[phonics]

The one line he has, which I actually agree he did very well on, was closing down flights. But as that's all he has he just brings every question back to it. It's fascinating to watch.

He hasn't actually closed down the flights. It's one of his favourite lies.

[Lee]

Getting him out if he loses the election is going to be a right laugh.

[John Arne]

He hasn't actually closed down the flights. It's one of his favourite lies.

I'm pretty sure all mainland China were cancelled. Only flights from Hong Kong allowed.

[Shindig]

There's still traffic between US, EU and UK but I don't know how much of that is empty flights (pilots keeping their hours up), cargo or connections on to other countries.

[Don]

His fucking David Brent expressions as he scans the audience's faces during the powerpoint :D :D I'm tuning into these live from now on.

[phonics]

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[Yevrah]

Well we haven't closed any, so I'm giving the moron that one at least.

[Luca]

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That graph looks like a giant scythe, which beyond being terribly apropos, reminds me of the greatest academic paper ever written. (http://www.econ.yale.edu/smith/econ116a/japan.pdf)

[phonics]

Looks like you need a management consultant for your tag situation son.

[Luca]

I’ll just send it off to India. They’ll fix it.

EDIT: They fixed it. Outsourcing works.

[Adramelch]

That graph looks like a giant scythe, which beyond being terribly apropos, reminds me of the greatest academic paper ever written. (http://www.econ.yale.edu/smith/econ116a/japan.pdf)

It doesn't beat this if you ask me:

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/pChTWn9khdkTVRzgf5PzHo.jpg

Especially given that it's a highly cited paper.

[John Arne]

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A Google search seems to suggest that 99% of those 40,000 are American citizens repatriating. I'm not one to defend Trump, but the travel bans seems somewhat real (ignoring the fact that you can still fly from HK :/ ). Obviously there is still huge travel within the country, which is just as fucked up.

[Yevrah]

Indeed. There's so much to go at him with, one doesn't need to make shit up.

[Raoul Duke]

I read Trump closed down flights except to places where he had golf courses :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

I shouldn't think Doonbeg is doing a roaring trade just at the moment.

[Adramelch]

In fairness, I started watching that clip from when Fauci came on to clarify his response to a previous interview and after he did that, the reporter asked him "are you doing this voluntarily or did the President request it?". What kind of lunatic question is that? He gave her quite the death stare, and rightly so.

As an aside, I would definitely like to be in Trump's mind for an hour or so. Seems like a truly fascinating place. :D

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/coronavirus-distancing-continue-until-2022-lockdown-pandemic

Any more such bullshit scare tactics and I might jump onto the Icke bandwagon and claim this is all so they force us to take the vaccines with trackers in them or some shit.

It took 9 days to build that fuck off massive hospital. They've got fully automated factories churning out cars that drive themselves. And yet they can't fucking build the required ventilators for these fatties so that we can continue living our lives?

[Boydy]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/14/coronavirus-distancing-continue-until-2022-lockdown-pandemic

Any more such bullshit scare tactics and I might jump onto the Icke bandwagon and claim this is all so they force us to take the vaccines with trackers in them or some shit.

It took 9 days to build that fuck off massive hospital. They've got fully automated factories churning out cars that drive themselves. And yet they can't fucking build the required ventilators for these fatties so that we can continue living our lives?
Have you seen Utopia?

[phonics]

That first series is one of the greatest pieces of television of all time.

I'm biased because it's a designers wankfest. Look at the work on the colour palette/framing of every scene.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a4/c1/c4/a4c1c439f387c88005dc229b1b33d9be.png

I heard Lynch was remaking it but those rumours went dead.

[Boydy]

It did look gorgeous. I might watch it again.

[phonics]

What did you think of the second season? I really wanted to know what was going on and I think they told the story well but there was something great about not knowing the bigger picture.

[Don]

No, not heard of it but I can make time for it. Anyone know where I'm sourcing it from?

[phonics]

No, not heard of it but I can make time for it. Anyone know where I'm sourcing it from?

It'll probably still be on whatever they call 4od now.

[Don]

I see it on Prime (I think) but there's two, one's free and the other one seems to be £1.89 an episode. I'll have a think about which one I choose.

Swear these apps are designed by the same people who are in charge of government policy on this pandemic, I was using torrents 15 years ago with better indexing and facilities than the shit I have to put up with now.

[phonics]

It's on Channel 4...

[Don]

That would involve me having to download another app for the lizards to track me with. Just let me Prime it in peace.

[Giggles]

I’d rather pay 2 quid an episode than face using 4OD for anything.

[Don]

I’d rather pay 2 quid an episode than face using 4OD for anything.

Also this [from memory of the last time I strayed on their shite].

[Smjffy]

Baz offered the 'Brave' browser if you don't like it because of ads.

I've never watched so much YouTube in my life since Barry informed us of Brave.

[niko_cee]

Utopia was amazing.

I'm Mr Rabbit.

[Giggles]

I’m still trying to track Billions down. There’s no “on demand” type section with a NowTV subscription is there?

[Don]

Episode 1 is enough to tell me this is gonna be good. Top shout.

[Don]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HJO7kA4_jaU

I missed the opening 15 mins but he's started off by stopping WHO funding and accusing them of a coverup.

Bring on the Q&A.

Edit: Treating the reporters like toddlers :D :D this is genius.

[Luca]

This press conference is absolutely fucking bonkers. He’s just threatened to walk off if a reporter didn’t stop asking him questions. Like a petulant child.

[Don]

Absolute Teflon Don. Dodging Qs like prime Neo without a single fuck given. Not one Q even allowed to finish :D

[Lewis]

The man is a legend.

[Luca]

Absolute Teflon Don. Dodging Qs like prime Neo without a single fuck given. Not one Q even allowed to finish :D

This is it. It's not that he doesn't answer the question, it's that he interrupts the journalist by answering another question before they get to finish, and then calls on someone else when he's finished his diatribe. :D

[Boydy]

What did you think of the second season? I really wanted to know what was going on and I think they told the story well but there was something great about not knowing the bigger picture.

I can't remember it all that well now. I'll let you know once I rewatch it.

[Waffdon]

Piers Morgan donned that health minister senseless this morning.

[John Arne]

That Trump presser is fascinating.

"You just criticised the WHO for praising China's transparency, yet in January you yourself praised China for their transparency..."

"We signed a great trade deal with China... $250bn... We will monitor it. Nobody else can do what we did"

"yeah, but the transparency question...."

"Enough enough! Next person...."

[Spikey M]

Piers Morgan donned that health minister senseless this morning.

I have no idea how she made it as a politician. She was awful. I get that she was laughing because she was uncomfortable but you don't start lolling when you're being asked if 4000 of the people you're responsible for have died.

[niko_cee]

I quite liked (if that's the word) the idea that half of the 6000 excess deaths last week (or whenever it was) were caused by people not being treated for mundane things because of the fear of going to hospital, with some intensive care consultant saying he hadn't seen a cases of sepsis for weeks which was apparently highly unusual.

Then I see today there are concerns that other infectious diseases are going to make a comeback as vaccination programmes are being paused. lol

Got to love the law of unintended consequences.

[Don]

Some light relief: https://youtu.be/vHGhAIEqJcg

Some heavy facts: https://youtu.be/XY3sEIB7pJY
This is the paper they discuss: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fil.ion.ucl.ac.uk/spm/covid-19/Moran_arXiv_2020.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj6nMyjk-roAhU6UhUIHTfSCJIQFjAEegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0BxLhGhL1TeweKrEsAh4JA

Estimates 6%-20% of UK have had it and up to ten more waves :drool:

[Giggles]

Mate of mine sounds like he's up shit creek now anyway. A fella from his work has it and they share a vehicle and office.

My test has gone to the lab so I should get a notification one way or the other by tomorrow.

[Ian]

Apparently somebody in our office has got or had it but presumably long after we were all sent to WFH.

[Bob Sacamano]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7NrYBt1fdU

:D

[Shindig]

"go away, come in!"

[Don]

That is some stunning delivery in swearing and insulting. The tone and timing :drool:

[Kikó]

twenty grand a year to be a fucking knobhead.

[Shindig]

It's not like the coppers were in the wrong, like. "Hey, here's a domestic disturbance. The man's refusing to open the door. And now he's filming us."

[Yevrah]

The male copper at the door is itching to give him a slap judging by the look on his face.

How was a domestic disturbance reported when there was nobody in his flat?

[Shindig]

He reported it.

[Waffdon]

A 106 year old recovered from this in Birmingham. Get the pubs reopen

[Spikey M]

106 years of Birmingham. Poor cunt.

[Mellberg]

Shut your tiny mouth.

[7om]

Brummies :drool:

If we can handle the likes of Sparkhill and Lozells then some twat virus doesn't stand a chance.

[Waffdon]

I’m thinking first week of August to book a holiday. Will see how Europe is over the next few weeks.

[Shindig]

I feel like we'll be on lockdown for another month but the EU's is bursting to get back to normal.

[phonics]

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[Adramelch]

I am watching the WHO press conference and some journalist just started talking about how the coronavirus outbreaks are focused on places with high carbon dioxide levels (among other things) which points to a link between the virus and global warming. :moop:

Edit: I see that even BBC mentioned that theory. No mention whatsoever of the obvious population density-pollution correlation.

[John Arne]

Govt today announced a further 1 week lockdown, with a further week expected.

[Spikey M]

Oooh a snazzy badge.

[Spoonsky]

I am watching the WHO press conference and some journalist just started talking about how the coronavirus outbreaks are focused on places with high carbon dioxide levels (among other things) which points to a link between the virus and global warming. :moop:

Edit: I see that even BBC mentioned that theory. No mention whatsoever of the obvious population density-pollution correlation.

Not the same thing but there is a link between mortality rates and air pollution.

study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054502v1

[Adramelch]

Not the same thing but there is a link between mortality rates and air pollution.

study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054502v1

Yeah that I understand and, at least, the BBC report I saw partially focused on that. The journalist speaking at WHO just flat out said that covid spread is due to global warming. :D

[John Arne]

For any chess fans out there, Carlsen is currently playing Firouzja in the Banter Blitz final. It's a cracking match so far.
https://youtu.be/rJtyQLkmRsU

[Giggles]

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[Adramelch]

That's gold. :D

France with another influx of care home/community deaths. 6524 deaths out of 14393 confirmed cases (although I appreciate that the 2nd statistic should be massively underestimated) and out of a total of 17167 deaths (so 38% of the total). We're getting quite close to Spain in deaths.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A woman in Sainsburys walked past me today who I'm sure was sick.

Went straight into the shower when I got back home but it's probably a RIP to me.

[Mazuuurk]

How can you really tell? After all the only really visible syndrome is a cough, right? And it still likely isn't the largest reason behind people coughing, in general like.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How can you really tell? After all the only really visible syndrome is a cough, right? And it still likely isn't the largest reason behind people coughing, in general like.

She was red in the face and coughing and spluttering (thankfully she started coughing after walking past me) and just generally looked quite worn down.

I have no idea that it was Covid but she definitely looked sick with something. Although it could well just be paranoia.

[Jimmy Floyd]

With envy after seeing what was in your trolley.

[Spikey M]

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Fucking hell :D

[Foe]

Been having good fun reading the comments on local groups and news outlets.

Seemingly parked cars at local parks are cause for jail sentences.

Group herd moron propaganda truly has embedded.

Apparently a guy up here was fined for going surfing, on his own, about 50 yards from his front door. :saywhat:

[Lofty]

mate of mine's wife died from it, 31 no underlying health conditions. Fucking hell.

Rewatched The Untouchables today and swear Trump is just doing a bad impression of De Niro's Capone.

[Shindig]

So he's going to walk into the next press conference with a golf club yelling, "Baseball!" Grand.

[Giggles]

mate of mine's wife died from it, 31 no underlying health conditions. Fucking hell.

Rewatched The Untouchables today and swear Trump is just doing a bad impression of De Niro's Capone.

None she knew about anyway.

[Spikey M]

One of my cousins friends died of it. Single mother to an 18 year old, 8 year old and a newborn. The newborn was delivered by emergency caesarean the day before she died.

Fucking hell.

[Spoonsky]

Jesus fuck

[mo]

One of my cousins friends died of it. Single mother to an 18 year old, 8 year old and a newborn. The newborn was delivered by emergency caesarean the day before she died.

Fucking hell.

That's fucking grim. Those poor kids.

[Don]

https://youtu.be/XwOS0NZNjLA

Don time.

[Foe]

mate of mine's wife died from it, 31 no underlying health conditions. Fucking hell.

Rewatched The Untouchables today and swear Trump is just doing a bad impression of De Niro's Capone.

Describe in more details please. Troubling.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

One of my cousins friends died of it. Single mother to an 18 year old, 8 year old and a newborn. The newborn was delivered by emergency caesarean the day before she died.

Fucking hell.
That's fucking horrible.

[Queenslander]

:drool:



Coronavirus Australia: Jonathan David becomes first Australian to be jailed for breaking quarantine rules

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/coronavirus-australia-jonathan-david-becomes-first-australian-to-be-jailed-for-breaking-quarantine-rules-c-977452.amp

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52304993

President Donald Trump says the US has "passed the peak" of new Covid-19 cases and predicted some states would reopen this month.

At the daily White House virus briefing, Mr Trump said new reopening guidelines would be announced on Thursday after he speaks to governors.

"We'll be the comeback kids, all of us," the president said. "We want to get our country back."

:cab:

[Queenslander]

Todays QLD numbers and we are only on Level 2. I lol at the thought of someone licking the boot on a daily basis in New Zealand.


https://i.ibb.co/t399hK3/FB-IMG-1587002699143.jpg (https://ibb.co/KmJJGhm)

[Queenslander]

Scomo has announced that we will have level 2 restrictions for another 4 weeks.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Everything I'm reading at the moment is fucking grim regarding lockdown. This is going to go on and on and on. We'll be able to go to B&Q at some point before summer's out, but we won't be able to go to restaurants or pubs for months, maybe not until next year.

Think the next sport with attendance may not be this side of Christmas 2021.

[Yevrah]

Yep. Until a vaccine comes there is no way to get rid of the fucker and given how catching it is it'll just spread like wildfire when we resume normal life.

[Jimmy Floyd]

With that in mind, I've ordered a racing wheel and chair, delivery on Saturday. It's OK to have a mid life crisis now. In fact it may even be necessary.

[niko_cee]

Is this old geezer walking up and down his garden raising titanic amounts of money for just giving or are they waiving their cut?

[Spikey M]

They reckon between 5-10% of people have had it. Hopefully that number is closer to 10% but obviously it's going to vary from area to area. That 10% makes a big difference to future waves and that R-0 shit they bang on about.

Once the numbers start to fall they'll relax restrictions a bit and they'll spike again. Back in lockdown. There will be periods of relative normality for most of us, but yes, bars and restaurants are turbofucked and there will be thousands of elderly and vulnerable people that will never be seen again regardless of not catching the virus.

We probably need about half of us to catch it for the NHS to be able to cope with life going back to normal. Well, 10% only took... 3 months. Fuck sake. And all this is assuming that they're right in thinking that immunity is long standing.

[Yevrah]

Indeed. It's a proper bollocks.

And Jim. :D

[Magic]

They reckon between 5-10% of people have had it. Hopefully that number is closer to 10% but obviously it's going to vary from area to area. That 10% makes a big difference to future waves and that R-0 shit they bang on about.

Once the numbers start to fall they'll relax restrictions a bit and they'll spike again. Back in lockdown. There will be periods of relative normality for most of us, but yes, bars and restaurants are turbofucked and there will be thousands of elderly and vulnerable people that will never be seen again regardless of not catching the virus.

We probably need about half of us to catch it for the NHS to be able to cope with life going back to normal. Well, 10% only took... 3 months. Fuck sake. And all this is assuming that they're right in thinking that immunity is long standing.

But how do they know if the tests are bollocks or not tested at all?

[Spikey M]

But how do they know if the tests are bollocks or not tested at all?

That's why there's the uncertainty and they can only say between 5-10%. There's about 3 million people falling into that gap.

[thommo]

With that in mind, I've ordered a racing wheel and chair, delivery on Saturday. It's OK to have a mid life crisis now. In fact it may even be necessary.

I haven't gone that far, but this lockdown period has allowed me to really get into 'sim racing', especially with F1 actually sticking it on their main channels and promoting it. iRacing looks incredible, but not sure I really have the space or money for a full rig set-up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't have either (and am not good or serious enough for that stuff) so I got a fold away chair thing to which you can attach the wheel. I've got Project Cars which is kind of a sim but not like iRacing, and it looks gorgeous even on my shoddy laptop.

That will get me through hours of dead time. Just doing anything requiring any kind of physical co-ordination is a bonus at the moment.

[mugbull]

It'll be fun to see how it goes in America once Trump lifts every restriction way too early. If the state governors don't overrule him, of course

[Spikey M]

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[Shindig]

New York's not opening back up for ages. 13,000 cases a day at the moment.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Element of truth but with this you can't see the bloke who's going to disembowel you and rape your severed head, so it's not quite as immediate as Genghis Khan.

This is the most serious wide-reaching health shutdown in all of human history, as far as I'm aware.

[Yeldoow]

New York has more cases than any country bar the US and more deaths per 1m population (591) than any country bar San Marino (1,061)

[Mazuuurk]

She was red in the face and coughing and spluttering (thankfully she started coughing after walking past me) and just generally looked quite worn down.

I have no idea that it was Covid but she definitely looked sick with something. Although it could well just be paranoia.


Yeah but I mean it could just as well just be a person who has been smoking too much or just hade a regular cold or whatever.

People seem to have forgotten that other illnesses still exist. But if you get it, you get it. You'll be fine I'm sure :console:

[Mazuuurk]

Is New York just gonna inadvertedly create herd immunity though?

[Spikey M]

Yes. And alot of empty accommodation in the black areas of the city.

[Shindig]

Well, no because stay at home orders kinda limit that.

[Spikey M]

The horses were already in the fields.

[Queenslander]

Cork hats for everyone.
https://i.ibb.co/XppBs2Z/FB-IMG-1587025654515.jpg (https://ibb.co/4MMyTmZ)

[Shindig]

Well, whoops for Japan and Singapore.

[Magic]

Calling gaming setups 'rigs' is the most nauseating thing ever.

[Spikey M]

Telling an employer that regularly fisted you that they're a sweetheart is probably worse.

[Queenslander]

Well, whoops for Japan and Singapore.

Some of our early models were based off Singapore. :uhoh:

[Ian]

Telling an employer that regularly fisted you that they're a sweetheart is probably worse.

Take your L, Spikey, he absolutely beasted them.

[Foe]

Everything I'm reading at the moment is fucking grim regarding lockdown. This is going to go on and on and on. We'll be able to go to B&Q at some point before summer's out, but we won't be able to go to restaurants or pubs for months, maybe not until next year.

Think the next sport with attendance may not be this side of Christmas 2021.

There won’t be pubs or restaurants in business if it goes that way.

Won’t be a good time to live in an urban area. Great time if you live more rurally. If there’s a genuine concern, phases pullback is the way forward by region.

[Lewis]

You could just have the distancing in restaurants and run them at half capacity (aren't Sweden doing that?), but sport is ballsed below the television level.

[SvN]

Hopefully they change this damn date on it. I understand the fraud risks but you're going to get that no matter where you've pledged money. It just doesn't sit well that you've earned a wage with new employer, you have your wage slips, it shows up in your government tax thingymajig but there's nothing you can do about it. You could ask your last employer to do so but most say no, apparently. I couldn't bring myself to even make that call and ask, it's far too belittling for my liking.

Good news - the date at which you had to be employed isn't 28th February as people previously assumed.

Bad news - It's actually 19th March.

28th Feb only applies to people made redundant between the 28/02 and 19/03.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think most sport will have to go ultra-local for a time. As in the only football that will be able to happen will be Sunday League sort of stuff. Pretty sure you'll be able to have 22 people playing in a park at some point, but no crowds or anything. I'm not sure pro football in particular has yet got its head around the fact that the bubble has properly burst.

Austria is opening up golf, tennis and athletics soon.

[Smjffy]

Good news - the date at which you had to be employed isn't 28th February as people previously assumed.

Bad news - It's actually 19th March.

28th Feb only applies to people made redundant between the 28/02 and 19/03.

I'm part of a group trying to get it changed and we've had some decent support but this change helps mostly those paid weekly, I think so still a couple of hundred thousand still uncovered. Governments solution was to ask former employer to furlough you or go on UC. I went on UC, took two hours or so to get through then a few days to sign up.

I believe it will change again eventually but it's still a bit shit. I sympathise more so with those who have kids and proper commitments as some of the stories I've read are quite harrowing, especially those who can't even put in a claim because one half of the couple work or because they are considered key workers etc.

[SvN]

I'm part of a group trying to get it changed and we've had some decent support but this change helps mostly those paid weekly, I think so still a couple of hundred thousand still uncovered. Governments solution was to ask former employer to furlough you or go on UC. I went on UC, took two hours or so to get through then a few days to sign up.

I believe it will change again eventually but it's still a bit shit. I sympathise more so with those who have kids and proper commitments as some of the stories I've read are quite harrowing, especially those who can't even put in a claim because one half of the couple work or because they are considered key workers etc.

When did you start your new job? Have you missed out on the 19th by much?

[Spikey M]

There won’t be pubs or restaurants in business if it goes that way.

Won’t be a good time to live in an urban area. Great time if you live more rurally. If there’s a genuine concern, phases pullback is the way forward by region.

The ones that can do takeaway might scrape by, but pubs (aside from the chains) may well be going the way of the dinosaur. They've been struggling for years as it is.

[Don]

Day 30-something Thought of the Day: Restaurants dying really is the way forward for humanity. Obviously we know 'foodie' culture and all those who revel in it to be the worst thing since Nazism but breaking up the relationship between humans and food like this only results in problems, be it physical, mental or social.

[Smjffy]

When did you start your new job? Have you missed out on the 19th by much?

I started on the 9th but didn't get paid until the 27th so eight days? I'm sure it will change again, there is too many affected otherwise.

[SvN]

I started on the 9th but didn't get paid until the 27th so eight days? I'm sure it will change again, there is too many affected otherwise.

It depends with the RTI submission was, but I doubt it was 8 days before you were paid (we do it 5 days before pay day). Worth checking though.

[Mazuuurk]

They are starting to say they see early positive signs here, and that we may have come close to a peak or reach a plateau (the latter seems more like how our curve will end up looking to me) which is partly encouraging, but also a bit terrifying as I'm sort of expecting people to throw caution to the wind now and go SIT IN THE SUN at cafés and bars this weekend and going forward.

It's kind of weird, life just seems to go on as normal here, except you see an ambulance or two picking up people every time you go out for a shorter walk.

[Shindig]

Well, our deaths just jumped up by a 100 so that'll put pay to complacency. Or not.

[Lee]

The jump is just reporting catch up. Our deaths are plateauing now. April 8th looks like the peak at the moment, but yesterday could rival it based on what has been reported so far. The number will bounce around at a high level for at least a few more days yet.

[7om]

Is ICU coping, Lee?

[Lee]

It is in my place, but there are more ventilated patients than is normal. Very tight in London and Birmingham, but they probably won’t breach (expanded) capacity. Our overall hospital beds occupied have stabilised and we’ve had small drops the last couple of days, so here’s hoping.

[Spikey M]

3 more weeks. Just off to kill myself. Love ya's.

[phonics]

We're opening Hairdressers on the 27th and the pubs on June 8th.

[Lee]

3 more weeks. Just off to kill myself. Love ya's.

It will be another 3 weeks after this, too.

[Magic]

Which Western country has been locked down longest?

[Adramelch]

Italy surely.

[Waffdon]

We're opening Hairdressers on the 27th and the pubs on June 8th.

Switzerland for my holiday it is

[Jimmy Floyd]

I am taking this very strangely indeed. Some days I feel serene and others totally down.

When will I next be able to visit my parents, fucking June? July?

[Boydy]

I am taking this very strangely indeed. Some days I feel serene and others totally down.

When will I next be able to visit my parents, fucking June? July?

Maybe you have already but I skyped mine the other night and it was really nice being able to see them and talk to them both at the same time rather than just talking on the phone. I know it's not the same but it helped a bit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have video called them twice (and my brother and sister) but it's just awkward and not a patch on being in the same room, four fucking miles away.

[Shindig]

I do wish I lived closer to mine now. I'm mainly ringing them just to check in for five minutes.

[Don]

Jimmy's commuting still so I can understand the higher risk but if, like my brother, you've isolated yourself and are still too scared to have contact with your parents then you probably need to unplug yourself from the matrix.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's weird not seeing my Sister. I go round hers every few days to drop off shopping and/or some home cooked meals but she buzzes me into the building and I either leave it outside her flat door or put it in the kitchen while she waits in her bedroom. Was also her birthday last week which was weird.

And yet I see that one of my Auntie's went to another Auntie's house for Easter not giving a shit about the whole thing.

[Lewis]

My mother rings me twice a day to talk absolute crap, and it's literally the only bad thing about any of this. If this is what retirement is like then I'll have some.

[phonics]

Think this angle is one of those things that has no effect on me.

My mum spent months at a time away on business when I was growing up and I've barely lived in the same country, let alone city, as my parents since I was 17. I'm used to it.

[Waffdon]

I have video called them twice (and my brother and sister) but it's just awkward and not a patch on being in the same room, four fucking miles away.

Walked to their house you lazy shit.

[Giggles]

I might to get to call to mine this tomorrow or Saturday. Well, only into the yard but I have stuff to give them since before all this started and I want to get a few things I left in my Da’s shed. Will all depend on work.

[Lee]

I’ve seen mine once and just had a chat over the garden fence. A bit shit really, but better than nothing. I speak to them most days. I’m hopeful that going round other people’s houses will be okayed in another three or six weeks.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Think this angle is one of those things that has no effect on me.

My mum spent months at a time away on business when I was growing up and I've barely lived in the same country, let alone city, as my parents since I was 17. I'm used to it.

You're great then aren't you.

[Magic]

You're great then aren't you.

Sassssssy. :drool:

[phonics]

You're great then aren't you.

The opposite, I wish I had that sort of closeness to anyone that most people have. I live in a world where I struggle with personal connections on a constant basis because of it.

[Lewis]

lol

[Spoonsky]

I'm weirdly in-between Phonics and Jimmy: I spend probably nine months out of the year in a different country as my parents, but coronavirus means that I'm now with them 24/7 for the foreseeable future. It's not bad at all, but I think it would be nicer if I had some siblings. Or I could get out a little more.

I think the ideal is living on your own in the same city / county as your parents.

[Spikey M]

Well, that's the least surprising Autistic coming out that we've had.

Edit: Phonics, not the Mormon.

[Shindig]

I've gotten closer to the family as time's gone on. With this situation, I'm just breaking up the two hours I'd usually see them once a fortnight into phone calls. If I tried to visit them, my mam would probably call me a stupid bugger for bothering. Civil obedience is hardwired into them. And, by extension, it's hardwired into me.

[Don]

https://youtu.be/VKR7i-2EC6w

Yesterday's was lowkey so I expect fireworks.

[-james-]

I only see my parents about 15 days a year in total, it can be tough but I get by knowing that it's probably not too long until the next visit.

It's different now, because there is no way I could possibly visit them even if I desperately needed to.

[Giggles]

I'm weirdly in-between Phonics and Jimmy: I spend probably nine months out of the year in a different country as my parents, but coronavirus means that I'm now with them 24/7 for the foreseeable future. It's not bad at all, but I think it would be nicer if I had some siblings. Or I could get out a little more.

I think the ideal is living on your own in the same city / county as your parents.

It’s them I feel for.

[Manc]

:D

[Lewis]

Stropping round the house because they gave his theremin to some div down the road.

[Don]

He's pitching states against each other like it's a round-robin tournament which I'm sure can't lead to any negative outcomes, he's greenlighted those 'healthy' states to reopen as early as tomorrow and he's said he wants stadiums and restauranta back to full capacity soon approximately 30 seconds after Fauci says that is probably unlikely till vaccine is out :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's mental.

[phonics]

Well, that's the least surprising Autistic coming out that we've had.

Edit: Phonics, not the Mormon.

Not being able to admit your own flaws is so weak. I’m sure you’re a perfect human being though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Social distancing!

[John Arne]

Tell that cunt to stop beeping. Prick.

[Queenslander]

How many of them treated cleaners, super market workers etc like shit in the good times?

[Spikey M]

People are still treating supermarket workers like shit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't know about this vaccine stuff, is there any degree of confidence we'll actually have one within any sort of time frame?

As much as the Trump approach is moronic, scientists saying you're all locked down until we have a vaccine strikes me as an open-ended solution.

[Spikey M]

China have just casually increased their death toll by 50%.

[Spikey M]

I don't know about this vaccine stuff, is there any degree of confidence we'll actually have one within any sort of time frame?

As much as the Trump approach is moronic, scientists saying you're all locked down until we have a vaccine strikes me as an open-ended solution.

I don't see how they can have. And there's the small matter of manufacturing enough to vaccinate billions of people once they have anyway.

You just know America will make the first one, vaccinate their own then Trump will sell it on to the rest of the world with a 1000% mark up and a load of trade demands for the future. :drool:

Realistically the Government had it right with Herd Immunity. It's just going to have to be done painfully slowly and I bet it still is our actual plan. It's going to be a long year.

[Offshore Toon]

Tell that cunt to stop beeping. Prick.
100% Portuguese

[Luke Emia]

China have just casually increases their death toll by 50%.

Yeah I enjoyed that one when I woke up this morning and saw it on the news. Just casually found them down the back of the sofa I would imagine.

[Yevrah]

I don't see how they can have. And there's the small matter of manufacturing enough to vaccinate billions of people once they have anyway.

You just know America will make the first one, vaccinate their own then Trump will sell it on to the rest of the world with a 1000% mark up and a load of trade demands for the future. :drool:

Realistically the Government had it right with Herd Immunity. It's just going to have to be done painfully slowly and I bet it still is our actual plan. It's going to be a long year.

Yeah, I remember it said at the time (when the scientists ballsed the maths up) that it would take up to two years (without breaching NHS capacity) for there to be enough immunity in the herd to make it go away. Which coincidentally takes us to the 'some social distancing to needed until 2022' line.

For me, the vaccine in 12 months stuff is a flight of fancy, even before you get to all the anti-vaccers refusing to take it, so the government need to be honest about what the plan is and explain it clearly and concisely enough to get the public and influential figures in this on side.

[Yevrah]

As for China increasing their death toll, it's just further fuel to Trump being absolutely bang on about withdrawing WHO funding, the shower of shit that they are.

[Spikey M]

Yeah, I remember it said at the time (when the scientists ballsed the maths up) that it would take up to two years (without breaching NHS capacity) for there to be enough immunity in the herd to make it go away. Which coincidentally takes us to the 'some social distancing to needed until 2022' line.

For me, the vaccine in 12 months stuff is a flight of fancy, even before you get to all the anti-vaccers refusing to take it, so the government need to be honest about what the plan is and explain it clearly and concisely enough to get the public and influential figures in this on side.

There's no way they take a 2 year approach. At some point they will get more daring and allow the waves to spread to more people. They will push the NHS to the limit.

[Queenslander]

Todays news is that Outback QLD want to reopen their pubs AND close all the roads coming out of the south east corner.

[Spikey M]

:cool:

[Queenslander]

Bloody fighting words hey!

[7om]

For me, the vaccine in 12 months stuff is a flight of fancy, even before you get to all the anti-vaccers refusing to take it, so the government need to be honest about what the plan is and explain it clearly and concisely enough to get the public and influential figures in this on side.

I wrote a post about this a few pages back, but getting a vaccine within one year is absolutely possible. There are 6 different candidates in human trials already and most of them have completion dates of early 2021. You rush that through approval and you could definitely see the first batches being manufactured and administered by summer next year.

[Shindig]

And, combined with the antibody test, you can skip those at-risks that have already been exposed.

[7om]

And, combined with the antibody test, you can skip those at-risks that have already been exposed.

Well this is where I question the usefulness of antibody testing. We don't know how long the antibody will persist in the blood. What if it's a month? By the time the vaccine comes out those previously infected people would need a jab to act as a booster.

[Shindig]

Fair. Some suggest it could be a lifetime but then you've also got to consider if there's other significant strains out there. It can't be as short as a month, though. Then you'd see people being infected twice in hot zones like Seoul and Wuhan.

[7om]

Fair. Some suggest it could be a lifetime but then you've also got to consider if there's other significant strains out there. It can't be as short as a month, though. Then you'd see people being infected twice in hot zones like Seoul and Wuhan.

It could be lifetime, or it could be very short and that will no doubt be a massive part of the human trials theyve got going now. They'll be drawing blood at regular time intervals and checking the persistence of the antibody levels.

[Spikey M]

Fair. Some suggest it could be a lifetime but then you've also got to consider if there's other significant strains out there. It can't be as short as a month, though. Then you'd see people being infected twice in hot zones like Seoul and Wuhan.

There is reportedly someone that's had it 3 times

[John Arne]

Norman 'bite yer legs' Hunter has died of Covid.

[Magic]

I've got toothache.

[Queenslander]

Yeah righto Albo you weirdo...


We've got the best health workers in the world.

All of them – from the orderlies and the cleaners, to the doctors and the nurses – are working their guts out to keep us safe.

So from every Australian – thank you.

[Boydy]

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[Kikó]

I don't see how they can have. And there's the small matter of manufacturing enough to vaccinate billions of people once they have anyway.

You just know America will make the first one, vaccinate their own then Trump will sell it on to the rest of the world with a 1000% mark up and a load of trade demands for the future. :drool:

Realistically the Government had it right with Herd Immunity. It's just going to have to be done painfully slowly and I bet it still is our actual plan. It's going to be a long year.

Complete bollocks. Overwhelming the health care system would have led to many more avoidable deaths. Lock down followed by controlled testing and tracing is the only method we have (and we're only using the first bit).

[Jimmy Floyd]

There is reportedly someone that's had it 3 times

Tested positive three times, I don't think they've been reinfected.

[Giggles]

Not the best publicity ever for them.


​https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/keelings-under-fire-for-flying-in-fruit-pickers-from-abroad-during-pandemic-994585.html

[Jimmy Floyd]

We've done the same thing, as have France. I don't understand whether the issue with fruit picking is no one will do it (find that hard to believe with thousands out of work and locked indoors), or that only illegal slave wages can be paid for it.

[Ian]

British firms have done it too, claiming that while they've had shitloads of applications from people in the UK to do the work it's not enough.

[Giggles]

The type of ones who would be protesting that are the ones who wouldn't get out of bed to do anything, let alone pick fruit.

[Yevrah]

Complete bollocks. Overwhelming the health care system would have led to many more avoidable deaths. Lock down followed by controlled testing and tracing is the only method we have (and we're only using the first bit).

I think they had it right in the sense that short of a vaccine it's realistically the only way we're going to be rid of this, they just got the timescale massively wrong, so as you say it would have led to a shit load more deaths.

Our testing is shit, we have a near non-existent tracing function and we're still letting anyone waltz into the country freely. How else are we going to get it sorted?

[Lewis]

Community immunity.

[Waffdon]

Herd mentality, bruh

[Queenslander]

Island immunity.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We're still going for herd immunity, aren't we? Just with a half-hearted lockdown rather than 'let them die' rhetoric.

[Yevrah]

We're still going for herd immunity, aren't we? Just with a half-hearted lockdown rather than 'let them die' rhetoric.

I should imagine the conversations will have evolved, but I'd be staggered if there hasn't been one along the lines of "this is what we're going to do and this is what we'll tell the public we're going to do".

Absolutely nothing has happened that suggests we're going to beat this by testing and tracing, which only leaves the vaccine or letting enough 'healthy' people get it. With the former having an uncertain timeline you have to work towards the latter as a contingency at the very least in case the vaccine takes ages to materialise.

In short:

https://i.postimg.cc/W1Syw2g2/3x11z3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimmy Floyd]

Which in turn leads to the semi-mythical 'antibody test' being the key to the puzzle.

Speaking of telling the public things, there is a good account on the Guardian of Boris's illness. Sounds like he was indeed much iller than they were ever letting on, but also that he really was in ICU as a precaution: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/17/boris-johnson-and-coronavirus-inside-story-illness

[bruhnaldo]

"he was indeed much iller than they were ever letting on, but also that he really was in ICU as a precaution"

Is this the first time in history everyone won the e-battle?

E-victory... for... all?!

[Alex]

Norman 'bite yer legs' Hunter has died of Covid.

It's a rough one to take is that. He was still a pretty regular fixture around Elland Road right up until the point of all this kicking off, a bonafide club legend and an absolute gentleman to boot. Whenever my Dad would talk to me about watching that Revie-era Leeds side, Norman Hunter seemed to always be the one he held in particular high esteem. Definitely somebody who will be hugely missed at Leeds.

[Lewis]

https://i.imgur.com/Zmd0EdC.png

Bring on the antibody tests and get Sports Direct open.

[Lewis]

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What?

[bruhnaldo]

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I heard Corona gets shook when they see a ferry doing spinnaroonies in the river so you guys should be okay.

[Ian]

Did you see we're giving the NHS little badges too?

It's like giving a shit but actually just making a bare minimum effort to pretend you give a shit.

What with that the boat circles COVID-19 must be shitting itself. :cool:

[Offshore Toon]

No chance Rishi becomes PM at that height.