Coronavirus Death Thread

[Giggles]

They really need to be killing it off by 2022, I got shit to do.

Killing people off?

[Kikó]

I don't understand the travel stuff at all. I'm meant to be going to Spain for work in a couple of weeks. As double-vaxxed I can go out there no problem, but I have to do what to get back in?



Right, and what if I don't? Beheaded at the Tower?

The booking on day two gives you a code to put on your passenger locator form. What you do with the day 2 is up to you, some places (like boots) don't even do the test results if you actually try to be a good citizen. We still have the tests somewhere in the house.

[Lofty]

It still DEFINITELY didn't come from a lab.

Didn't some university study find the samples with the same strain in it from european countries predating the Wuhan cases?

[Queenslander]

Heads have gone.


WA school leavers COVID vaccination mandate declared a sign of future for vaccine passports


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/wa-school-leavers-covid-19-vaccination-mandate-vaccine-passport/100519374?fbclid=IwAR21pP_A3rybcl58GvLH9-qbwQhR8ou4vm62IomHb8JRd4cqv08-pmRZla0

[Spikey M]

Didn't some university study find the samples with the same strain in it from european countries predating the Wuhan cases?

That makes the "escaped from a lab" theory more likely if anything. After SARS the Chinese would take a strong interest in any new CoronaViruses and where better to study them than the The Wuhan Institute of Virology (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology)?


In 2005, a group including researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology published research into the origin of the SARS coronavirus, finding that China's horseshoe bats are natural reservoirs of SARS-like coronaviruses.[14] Continuing this work over a period of years, researchers from the institute sampled thousands of horseshoe bats in locations across China, isolating over 300 bat coronavirus sequences.[15]

In 2015, an international team including two scientists from the institute published successful research on whether a bat coronavirus could be made to infect a human cell line (HeLa). The team engineered a hybrid virus, combining a bat coronavirus with a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and mimic human disease. The hybrid virus was able to infect human cells.[13][16]

In 2017, a team from the institute announced that coronaviruses found in horseshoe bats at a cave in Yunnan contain all the genetic pieces of the SARS virus, and hypothesized that the direct progenitor of the human virus originated in this cave. The team, who spent five years sampling the bats in the cave, noted the presence of a village only a kilometer away, and warned of "the risk of spillover into people and emergence of a disease similar to SARS".[15][17]

In 2018, another paper by a team from the institute reported the results of a serological study of a sample of villagers residing near these bat caves (near Xiyang Township 夕阳乡 in Jinning District of Yunnan). According to this report, 6 out of the 218 local residents in the sample carried antibodies to the bat coronaviruses in their blood, indicating the possibility of transmission of the infections from bats to people.[18]

Prior to and throughout the COVID-19 pandemic, coronavirus research at the WIV has been conducted in BSL-2 and BSL-3 laboratories.[19]



In December 2019, cases of pneumonia associated with an unknown coronavirus were reported to health authorities in Wuhan. The institute checked its coronavirus collection and found the new virus had 96% genetic similarity to RaTG13, a virus its researchers had discovered in horseshoe bats in southwest China.[20][21]

So, there was a very similar CoronaVirus spreading amongst animals nearby AND there was a Lab in Wuhan working on the samples... Let's just say the waters are muddy. Regardless, I highly doubt we'll ever know the true cause of the outbreak. It wouldn't surprise me if the Chinese didn't really know.

[-james-]

Yeah I'm going to skip the day two tests. You're just paying for the reference number lol, and it seems like you can put whatever in the form and nobody is going to know any better.

[Giggles]

Legend.

[Shindig]

I'm back in the office a week on Monday and our new policy is for people to take a photo of the test, as well as do the text/email confirmation. Faff.

[randomlegend]

That's about 50 times as stringent as our policy at work.

[Kikó]

We're abandoning the social distancing numbers in offices and meeting rooms from Monday and from desks starting November 1st. I think it's dumb to keep artificial measures in place if you are welcoming people back and think it's safe for us to mingle again (it is). It was good today to be back with my team in person today, a lot more productive especially for the new person to finally meet us. We're going up to 3x a week mandatory which I think is one day too many but so be it.

[Yevrah]

We've got perspex screens going up between desks, which I imagine, unless they're going to tomb people in from floor to ceiling, are functionally useless.

[Disco]

Our lot put up a sign about washing your hands and took all the plates and stuff out of the kitchen, that's been about it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My place has been completely 100% normal since at least May except there's one bloke whose head has gone so completely that he won't allow you into the room he works in without a mask and sanitising hands, and the only time he ever leaves his room is to refill his sanitiser bottle.

He was a nice guy before, it's a real shame. I imagine they'll have to get rid of him, in the end.

[Yevrah]

Are all the absolute mentalists still shouting about opening schools and offices being akin to murder, or are the BBC just (finally) ignoring them now?

[Shindig]

That reminds me. We had an email the other day about TWO PEOPLE SHARING A TABLE IN THE BREAK ROOM!

They fucking live together.

[Lewis]

We are completely back to normal, and have been since June, but a couple of melts still are walking round in masks and trying not to touch things.

[phonics]

Can’t go indoors anymore because I forgot my insurance number and they won’t vaccinate me without one. Good times. Off to the Red Cross tomorrow with the illegal immigrants.

[Giggles]

We never left the office or stopped working so apart from the Perspex and extra sanitiser it’s as usual.

[Dquincy]

We never left the office or stopped working so apart from the Perspex and extra sanitiser it’s as usual.

...and the 3 masks on your face.

[Queenslander]

The Sydney Variant lol.


'We've found a new strain of Delta that has different sequencing to the current strain circulating in Sydney,' she said as she announced the latest figures in a live video address on Friday.





https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10071219/NSW-records-646-new-Covid-cases-Dr-Kerry-Chant-warns-NEW-strain-Delta-variant.html

[Giggles]

...and the 3 masks on your face.

I'm not surprised counting isn't your strong suit.

[Dquincy]

I'm not surprised counting isn't your strong suit.
I was merely complimenting you on your safety measures. Because that's what friends do.

[Waffdon]

1 in 70 has Covid last week in England last week. I smell shite.

[Giggles]

1 in 70 has Covid last week in England last week. I smell shite.

At least you know you don't have it then.

[Waffdon]

Touché

[Don]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/worst-lurgy-ever-spreading-across-25177843

The whole article is pure lols.

[Queenslander]

One woman explained she had been 'totally floored' for weeks and more and more people are saying they have been ill, or know someone who is under the weather, according to the Liverpool Echo.

So just your standard upper middle class white woman.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58851205


Leah Cushman is prepared to lose her nursing job rather than get vaccinated.

Okay ...


"My beliefs are religious. I believe that my creator endowed me with an immune system that protects me, and if I get sick, that's an act of God. I would not take a medicine that affects the immune system" She denies there is any conflict between these beliefs and the responsibilities of her job.

Keep her off the maternity ward.


However even the option of regular testing is unacceptable to many of those Americans who refuse to get vaccinated.

Kahseim Outlaw has just lost his job in Wallingford, Connecticut for that very reason.

Go on ...


Like all teachers in the state, Mr Outlaw was offered an alternative of weekly testing but said he viewed that as an "unnecessary medical procedure" that was uncomfortable.

"The way that our soul speaks to us, that little voice that tells us when something is in alignment or not, that voice is telling me that I need to make this particular decision right now."

"No, not that cotton bud up my nose. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

[Don]

Fairplay to those heroes who are willing to give up their careers and financial security to stay true to their beliefs.

[Spikey M]

Big lol at the Nurse that's opposed medical interventions.

[randomlegend]

See how long her belief in not tampering with her God-given immune system lasts if she gets rheumatoid arthritis or something.

[Shindig]

She also claims to have never had a vaccine ever. An impossible thing to claim when you know she's had MMR, polio drops or whatever as a kid.

[Don]

No she doesn't.

[Spikey M]

Looking at her complexion it looks like she did Smallpox the hard way too.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/CA4E/production/_121009715_leahcushmanisaregisterednurseandnewhamp shirestaterepresentative.jpg

[Shindig]

Sorry, I conflated the two statements she made about medicines and vaccines. She's still talking shite.

[Spikey M]

We received an email today to say that there has been 2 cases of Covid in my daughters class. Both were tested for back on 27/09, but the results have only just come back. One of the kids has been at school for the duration.

Is that how long the tests are taking these days? I don't think there's any twins in her class, so they can't be siblings. Although I guess both parents could have dragged their heels with a postal test.

If the tests are taking that long it's genius stuff from BoJo and crew. You can go to school until you get the test result and you only have to isolate for 10 days from 1st symptoms, so if the test takes 2 weeks... :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't know why we're still testing well people. Complete waste of time and resources.

[Yevrah]

Yep. Surely we'd be better served putting the focus on treating people who're bad with it before they get to death's door. Everyone else cracks on as we were.

[Spikey M]

I don't know why we're still testing well people. Complete waste of time and resources.

They had symptoms, they're just allowed to keep going into school until they get the result (I think? Dunno. That's how it read).

[Manc]

223 deaths and not a single fuck given.

[Don]

They should do a graph of deaths and hospitalisations against the soft shites and their conduct over the last 2 years. E-victories galore.

[mo]

They had symptoms, they're just allowed to keep going into school until they get the result (I think? Dunno. That's how it read).

School shouldn't be letting them attend (according to guidance). Asymptomatic LFT = isolate until PCR result. Symptomatic? Isolate until PCR result.

Numbers of isolating kids at my school are on the rise and staff sickness is high at the moment and we don't seem to be able to get any agency staff. Thank god it's the last day of term tomorrow.

[Shindig]

Seems that registering for tomorrow's on-site test was so they could do the 'trace' part of track and trace. In short, some dogsbody wants to do more work for themselves and because one person turned positive, they've stepped up a notch.

[Queenslander]

Hard not to laugh at this.



Novak Djokovic won't be able to enter Australia unless he is vaccinated, Immigration Minister Alex Hawke says.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-20/novak-djokovic-australian-open-covid-vaccine-alex-hawke/100552484

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58965650

*NEW VARIANT klaxon*

The media are wanking themselves dry over the potential for a lockdown, I see. They must realise there's no chance of anyone following it now, surely?

[Giggles]

Some dragged-up tramp wasn’t served in the shop in front of me just now for not wearing a mask. I didn’t even have to say anything, the lad in the shop wasn’t having it :drool:

[Spikey M]

The first Covid Briefing in months at 5pm :uhoh:

[Yevrah]

The cases based bed wetting does appear to be gathering pace.

If we go down this road then it looks as though lockdowns will become an annual event.

[SvN]

There's zero chance that the country will abide another lockdown.

[Spikey M]

The BBC are saying it's just to update on the booster jabs, but some are expecting masks and social distancing to come back.

The government have apparently RULED OUT another lockdown, so we're nailed on to have one at some point now.

[Yevrah]

The tone of this opening isn't good.

[Don]

Man said meet outdoors if possible :rasta: will lend you a brolly, lads.

[Alex]

Two birds with one stone. Save on the ever increasing heating bill. Go freeze your bollocks off in the park or garden instead.

[Shindig]

Who needs heating when we're getting 16 degrees in mid-October?

[Don]

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NHS 0-1 Novakstan

Really eloquently put too, note how none of the disgraceful staff had a retort to the pope namedrop too. Telling.

[Spikey M]

Fucking hell, what a merry band of spastics.

[Boydy]

The pope is the head of all businesses across the UK, no, the world?

[niko_cee]

Aye.

That reformation you might have heard of?

HOAX!

[Don]

0:16-0:32 is absolute comedy gold the heights of which haven't been reached since Chaplin.

[Giggles]

State of those cunts :D

[Shindig]

The heavy breathing from the camera bloke. Someone get him a chair.

[Lewis]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/21/england-gps-threaten-industrial-action-over-in-person-appointments

:harold:

[Kikó]

Why do they need to see people face to face? Why are the government insistent on making health care an even less attractive place to work? It's not going to solve our pitiful doctors to patient ratio if we force more to quit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Old people don't understand things that aren't face to face. It breaks their brains.

[Giggles]

The cheek of expecting the cunts to work for their money.

[Shindig]

There's only so much you can do over the phone.

[Kikó]

It doesn't mean they can't do face to face appointments as well but mandating it is ridiculous. I don't know why working over a screen is less 'work worthy' than the other.

[Spikey M]

It doesn't mean they can't do face to face appointments as well but mandating it is ridiculous. I don't know why working over a screen is less 'work worthy' than the other.

I've had a word with your barber and he's happy to talk you through your next trim via Skype.

[Kikó]

Oh Ur rite.

[Don]

I was mouthing off about this but put it down to teething problems and me being the same, if significantly less, flawed human. It's just another example of society struggling to adapt to the ongoing revolution. Also see office presence for most workers.

[7om]

It doesn't mean they can't do face to face appointments as well but mandating it is ridiculous. I don't know why working over a screen is less 'work worthy' than the other.

You lose a lot not seeing them. You gather a lot of information by seeing the patient walk from the waiting room to the office.

[Shindig]

Ah, good old informal observations. The number one thing benefit cheats shit themselves over.

[Kikó]

You lose a lot not seeing them. You gather a lot of information by seeing the patient walk from the waiting room to the office.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they should never happen but considering the strain on the system, it's a useful option.

[Lofty]

The news is definitely trending very 'lockdowny' this week, crazy that Manchester has cancelled it's bonfire displays but still going ahead with the Christmas markets, mixed messaging.

[Shindig]

Combine the two by lobbing fireworks to disperse the market crowd. I see us possibly lockdowning. Even if the numbers get more favourable, cold and flu season will pressure it.

[Lewis]

If we have another lockdown, or even just any new 'measures', then how do we get out of having them every winter?

[Manc]

I'm really hoping they bottle it. Fuck commuting over winter.

[Kikó]

The news is definitely trending very 'lockdowny' this week, crazy that Manchester has cancelled it's bonfire displays but still going ahead with the Christmas markets, mixed messaging.

Probably more money in the Christmas market shitathon than the park bonfire events. Wish it was the other way round tbfh.

[randomlegend]

Some appointments are absolutely appropriate to do over the phone.

Some (like small children with prolonged fevers) absolutely aren't.

I think GPs have gone too far towards doing stuff over phone appointments since the covid restrictions paved the way for it, but given their completely unmanageable patient and work loads I can see why they've done it (and are reluctant to go back).

Anyone who thinks GPs don't work hard is a moron.

What we actually need is more investment in health services and more doctors, rather than continuing to try and bleed ever more out of the already exsanguinated work force we currently have.

[Giggles]

It’s not that they don’t work, it’s that they’re trying to get out of working.

[randomlegend]

It’s not that they don’t work, it’s that they’re trying to get out of working.

No they aren't. They are trying to see more patients because they are overwhelmed with numbers, which is facilitated by phone appointments (which if anything are more difficult than face-to-face).

[Kikó]

My missus was able to have two phone consultations to discuss her blood work. She didn't need to be face to face to discuss that and got the same outcome. It's definitely valuable and appropriate in some situations.

[randomlegend]

Agreed; I've also had appointments which were absolutely fine to do over the phone.

[Pepe]

Person in field A thinks that field A needs more money. Who would have thunk so?

[randomlegend]

Person in field A thinks that field A needs more money. Who would have thunk so?

You really are a boring idiot.

[Pepe]

https://c.tenor.com/ZdS2gqFiUlAAAAAM/wwf-wrestling.gif

[Yevrah]

The movement is growing pace.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59011321

Most worrying bit however, is:


Sage says making face coverings compulsory in some places is likely to help reduce the spread of Covid as well as other winter viruses, such as flu.

Is that using COVID to push through stuff you'd have loved to do before but would have had no public support for? It very much looks like it.

[Pepe]

Always works that way, I made that point earlier.

[Yevrah]

We really are kindred spirits you and me Pep.

[Pepe]

:wub:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Masks make little difference (see Scotland). What makes a difference is the number of people spending extended periods of time together in enclosed indoor environments. Masks are better theatre though as you can easily identify the unbelievers and burn them at the stake.

[Spikey M]

Jimmy converting to Team Work From Home. :drool:

[Yevrah]

Masks make little difference (see Scotland). What makes a difference is the number of people spending extended periods of time together in enclosed indoor environments. Masks are better theatre though as you can easily identify the unbelievers and burn them at the stake.

Quite. Which is a terrifying insight into the thought process behind all this as it currently stands.

[randomlegend]

Erm, weren't the masks one of your big victories for team COMMON SENSE when THE SCIENCE was saying they aren't actually particularly effective and weren't recommending them?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jimmy converting to Team Work From Home. :drool:

Having just gone round Spain and seen everyone working from the office with masks on at their desks all day, we might call their solution lo peor de los dos mundos.

Masks do something, obviously, but they are far less important than other things (ventilation) which are ignored because you can't virtue signal by opening or closing a window.

[Yevrah]

Erm, weren't the masks one of your big victories for team COMMON SENSE when THE SCIENCE was saying they aren't actually particularly effective and weren't recommending them?

They were indeed. 18 months ago. Situations change. Humans are useless at recognising this (are you?). I certainly wouldn't have been advocating we all wear them if over 40 million of our population had been vaccinated.

[Giggles]

Masks are no big deal and a very small act that can make a good difference. Going against them in such a big way is nothing but defiance and petulance.

[randomlegend]

They were indeed. 18 months ago. Situations change. Humans are useless at recognising this (are you?). I certainly wouldn't have been advocating we all wear them if over 40 million of our population had been vaccinated.

Jimmy's post was implying masks don't work, which you seemed to be agreeing with.

[Yevrah]

Jimmy's post was implying masks don't work, which you seemed to be agreeing with.

Fair enough. I think they work. Just don't think we need them now on a wholesale basis and I'd seriously question the motivations of anyone suggesting we do.

[Yevrah]

Or to put it another way, if we do still need them now on a wholesale basis, we're going to need them forever.

[7om]

I spent a week on covid wards armed with nothing but a standard blue surgical mask. They either work very well or I’ve got a mega immune system.

[randomlegend]

I spent a week on covid wards armed with nothing but a standard blue surgical mask. They either work very well or I’ve got a mega immune system.

Yeah I've only ever worn the blue surgical masks whilst up close with screaming covid positive 2 year olds and I've also dodged it so far.

[Shindig]

Our office is relaxing restrictions. Still no change from the work from home stuff but now you can set up at any desk which makes training in person much easier. Masks are personal preference as well. I'll see how that shapes out when I'm back in the office next month.

[Pepe]

Masks do stop the ejection of droplets, which can decrease infection. How well they do that will depend on the quality of the mask and how well fitted the mask is. Since those two vary wildly and no one really knows the viral load that leads to covid infection, trying to use FACTS and SCIENCE to dictate masking policies is futile. With that said, we can use some good, old common sense to decide.

We basically have a few factors to control risk levels: vaccines, masking, social distancing, and ventilation. Based on those factors, your risk tolerance, and your age/health, you can decide what is or is not necessary.

If you are a zero risk tolerance type of person, then you will already have your vaccine + booster, yet still wear your N95 even when riding your bicycle outdoors all by yourself. You might be righftully called a numpty (extra lol points if you do this but do not wear a helmet), but you gotta do what you gotta do.

For everyone else, it depends. Large group of unvaccinated people in a small, poorly ventilated space? Masks are probably a good idea. Disperse, mostly vaccinated crowd in a large, well ventilated venue (say, a supermarket)? You're probably good without masks. If you are vaccinated and outdoors, there really is no reason to ever feel the need to wear a mask.

[Dave.]

Masks do stop the ejection of droplets, which can decrease infection. How well they do that will depend on the quality of the mask and how well fitted the mask is. Since those two vary wildly and no one really knows the viral load that leads to covid infection, trying to use FACTS and SCIENCE to dictate masking policies is futile. With that said, we can use some good, old common sense to decide.

We basically have a few factors to control risk levels: vaccines, masking, social distancing, and ventilation. Based on those factors, your risk tolerance, and your age/health, you can decide what is or is not necessary.

If you are a zero risk tolerance type of person, then you will already have your vaccine + booster, yet still wear your N95 even when riding your bicycle outdoors all by yourself. You might be righftully called a numpty (extra lol points if you do this but do not wear a helmet), but you gotta do what you gotta do.

For everyone else, it depends. Large group of unvaccinated people in a small, poorly ventilated space? Masks are probably a good idea. Disperse, mostly vaccinated crowd in a large, well ventilated venue (say, a supermarket)? You're probably good without masks. If you are vaccinated and outdoors, there really is no reason to ever feel the need to wear a mask.

100% this.

[Giggles]

I just fail to see how wearing a mask in a shop or somewhere similar is such an inconvenience even if you think they don’t work that well.

[Pepe]

Some people find them an inconvenience, others don't. Just like many things in life.

[Lewis]

I read earlier that 82% of the Great British Public are still wearing their masks. Where?

[Spikey M]

That's nonsense. 10% at most. Probably less.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was a late dispenser but had finally given up wearing them until I got to continental maskageddon. Now, I don't know.

[Giggles]

Some people find them an inconvenience, others don't. Just like many things in life.

Inconvenience is one thing but the British especially seem to be very militant about them.

[Pepe]

That's your 'culture war' right there.

[Giggles]

Maybe so. It’s definitely gone way past Covid 19 for them anyway.

[Spikey M]

For me masks are the same as ties. They're not an inconvenience and I don't really care when I have to wear them, but given the choice I don't bother.

I imagine most people are the same. The ANTI-MASKERS and the masked up bike riders are very much the fringe groups.

[Queenslander]

Candice Owens wants the US Military to overthrow the Australian government. :cab:

https://www.facebook.com/125982670754724/posts/5045390245480584/

[Boydy]

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They should do this here too :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

All the best ideas start in Austria. Keep the untermensch in their homes.

[Spikey M]

Can't wait for the next Fritzlite to escape, only to be returned to their sex dungeon for being AntiVaxx scum.

[randomlegend]

Good evidence now that covid can cause long-term brain damage, which explains the state of Taz and Magic.

[Yevrah]

How common are long term brain damage inducing, incredibly transmissible viruses in nature?

[Spikey M]

What causes the brain damage? Is it the virus its self, of is it lack of oxygen because you struggle to breathe?

[Shindig]

https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20211022-eu-research-reveals-long-term-brain-damage-caused-by-covid

Looks like the blood vessels get knacked but it's something potentially reversable.

[randomlegend]

No idea to any of the questions I just saw a headline and took the opportunity to call Taz and Magic brain-damaged.

[Magic]

1452015184655134721

They should do this here too :drool:

Vaccine passports lad.

[Kikó]

Sounds like a terrible superhero.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Had my booster jab today. It was Pfizer and I was told I might have side effects as my previous two were Astrazeneca.

[Dquincy]

Over 200 dead today (within 28 days of testing positive for covid).

That's not a positive outlook is it.

[Kikó]

Well it was also due to a data issue so some element of multiple days being in the same count.

[Dquincy]

Giggles - Are you still wearing five masks?

[Lofty]

They fit his face like a glove.

[Boydy]

BBC News - First pill to treat Covid gets approval in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59163899

Seems encouraging but the bit about the date being published in a press release and not being peer-reviewed seems odd. Shouldn't it be peer-reviewed before it gets approved?

[Spikey M]

We've moved on you slags. Zip it.

[Ian]

We've moved on you slags. Zip it.

You appear to have mistyped 'Mark Noble.'

[Spikey M]

I was channelling my inner Mark Noble. It's exactly how he would've ended this.

[randomlegend]

BBC News - First pill to treat Covid gets approval in UK
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59163899

Seems encouraging but the bit about the date being published in a press release and not being peer-reviewed seems odd. Shouldn't it be peer-reviewed before it gets approved?

Research is really not my area, but my guess would be the trial results were so good that the regulators felt it would be unethical not to push it through. They aren't retards and whilst it's not the same as thorough peer review, they would spot any glaring issues with the trial design etc. which is really what peer review is there for.

The results were so good they halted the trials early because - again - it was unethical to keep giving people the placebo.

The drug has been around since 2018 by the looks of things (originally developed as a possible flu treatment) so I'd imagine there's a fair bit of trial data on safety etc. from that.

[Baz]

I was channelling my inner Mark Noble. It's exactly how he would've ended this.

You forgot to append every sentence with the word 'geez' so you're doing a bad job.

[Spikey M]

research is really not my area, but my guess would be the trial results were so good that the regulators felt it would be unethical not to push it through. They aren't retards and whilst it's not the same as thorough peer review, they would spot any glaring issues with the trial design etc. Which is really what peer review is there for.

The results were so good they halted the trials early because - again - it was unethical to keep giving people the placebo.

The drug has been around since 2018 by the looks of things (originally developed as a possible flu treatment) so i'd imagine there's a fair bit of trial data on safety etc. From that.

geez!!!!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I did have some side effects.

Are of the jab was a little sensitive last night plus I've felt pretty tired for most of today and I've had a headache/cloudy mind as well as feeling a little hot.

Not as bad as the side effects after the first vaccine but worse than the second one.

[Magic]

I have to get vaxxed lol.

[Spikey M]

Pussy.

[Baz]

I have to get vaxxed lol.

Good, you fucking whammer

[Luke Emia]

I have to get vaxxed lol.

Surely you don't have to? Maybe you are just being a faggot?

[Kikó]

Good, you fucking whammer

Excellent insult.

[Giggles]

Turns out Aaron Rodgers is a nutjob.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Turns out Aaron Rodgers is a nutjob.

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This thread is amazing.

[Kikó]

Won't trust billions of doses of a closely scrutinised vaccine administered globally but will take some drug that's got zero proof of effectiveness because Karen said it's the one. He must already have brain damage from the amfoot

[Lewis]

He should just say I'm an elite athlete and I'm not taking anything I don't need to, and I'm rich enough to risk any inconvenience that might come from doing so. I could understand that. The 'doing my own research' just makes him sound like a wazzock.

[Dquincy]

I have to get vaxxed lol.

http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-irelands-co-waterford-has-one-of-the-highest-vaccination-rates-in-the-world-so-why-are-cases-surging-12461642

[Don]

Await Spazboy's 'I don't know but I'd wager...' explanation.

[Giggles]

It’s schools. No matter how much the government want to deny it and blame other things, it’s schools. My mrs is a primary teacher and they’ve been warned that the line is that all kids that catch it do so outside school. Easier than keeping all the promises they made last year about ventilation, etc.

[Kikó]

"Hospitalisation figures, and intensive care unit admissions, are stable and decreasing slightly in recent days. It's widely accepted the "vaccine wall" has driven serious illness and death figures down."

[Giggles]

Despite the huge rise in cases here again yesterday, intensive care numbers dropped 20%. Anyone not vaccinated at this point is dumber than stupid.

[Dquincy]

I guess they'll be a point where the kids reach herd immunity. Then we're home and dry! :cool:

[niko_cee]

Whilst the fixation remains on case numbers, which will continue to be the case as it empowers those who wish to interfere with the lives of others/prevent a resumption of pre-covid normality, we'll never be home and dry.

We had our health bod, who is a living saint in the eyes of many it would seem, greeting about 'record case numbers' today [59 :happycry: although that does translate to 59k in the UK] and the need for all the 'NPIs' like masks and everything. There's 1 person in hospital with it, and I don't think they're even in intensive care. It's mental. Cut to Jimmy . . .

[Giggles]

Case numbers are completely pointless when death numbers are so much lower now. What should have been done from day one was deny anyone unvaccinated access to hospitals, unless medically proven they couldn’t take it.

[Spikey M]

I guess they'll be a point where the kids reach herd immunity. Then we're home and dry! :cool:

If my daughter class is anything to go by we must be steamrolling towards that. There's only 14 kids in her class, 4 of them had Covid over half term and another is off this week with it.

One of the dads is balls deep in the Long-Covid Con. Signed off for 2 weeks because he "can't think straight". He's alright to go down the pub though. :happycry:

[Don]

Case numbers are completely pointless when death numbers are so much lower now. What should have been done from day one was deny anyone unvaccinated access to hospitals, unless medically proven they couldn’t take it.

Man's sat there with a BMI of lord knows consuming only things the colour of my ball sack and he spouts this :D

[Giggles]

Man's sat there with a BMI of lord knows consuming only things the colour of my ball sack and he spouts this :D

I got vaccinated so I’m better than you. Then again that’s probably the story of your life.

[Don]

I got vaccinated so I’m better than you.

Iconic :D

[Magic]

My girlfriend is on chemo medication after a catastrophic GP fuck up (covid related obv).

So I guess that makes her vulnerable ergo me having to get it.

[Manc]

Simp.

[Raoul Duke]

My girlfriend is on chemo medication after a catastrophic GP fuck up (covid related obv).

So I guess that makes her vulnerable ergo me having to get it.

Man, you are so close to getting the point

[Luke Emia]

My girlfriend is on chemo medication after a catastrophic GP fuck up (covid related obv).

So I guess that makes her vulnerable ergo me having to get it.

Ok going to ask what are you worried about? I don’t think someone in their 30’s undergoing chemo is probably any more vulnerable than someone in their mid-70’s statistically so why bother?

If you’ve made it this far you may as well see it through to the end.

[Magic]

No and I know it doesn't stop you getting it and we've both had it plus she's getting a booster so it's all a bit meh but just in case.

[Magic]

Man, you are so close to getting the point

Which is?

[Dquincy]

If my daughter class is anything to go by we must be steamrolling towards that. There's only 14 kids in her class, 4 of them had Covid over half term and another is off this week with it.

One of the dads is balls deep in the Long-Covid Con. Signed off for 2 weeks because he "can't think straight". He's alright to go down the pub though. :happycry:

:lol: Genuine chuckle.

I've rep'd him lads.

[Queenslander]

Joe Rogan will be all over this.


.NT police use pepper spray on protestors at anti-vaccine rally in Darwin, arrest seven


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-06/nt-covid-protest-pepper-spray-nt-polce-anti-vaccine/100600594

[Giggles]

Is all that uniserv stuff true or just some tinfoil hatting?

[Queenslander]

I dont know what uniserv is sorry.

[niko_cee]

The problem is increasingly that the loonies, whilst obviously loonies, as is ever the case, are going to end up on the right side of the argument. Shutting down society, in any sort of form, because a person in their 20s contracts a virus which is unlikely to have any pronounced effect on them is well past shark jump territory.

I love that the story has the outbreak rising to 3, with a case in Katherine, just the trifling 320km from Darwin. A bit like if the south east of England were to shut down on the back of a case in London, and the ANOTHER CASE in Brussels (or Leeds).

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's a great outlet for the latent authoritarian urges in many.

Either that or, wait for it, heads have gone.

[niko_cee]

Masked up solo drivers are back so it's definitely Column B.

[Spikey M]

It's a perfect storm of both columns in tedious union.

[Queenslander]

Surely when it opens up the FIFO workers will spread covid like wildfire.

I had no idea that PNG is 99% Pentecostal and Evangelical.



Just 1.7 per cent of PNG residents are vaccinated against COVID. Why are they so resistant?



As one group protesting a vaccine drive recently chanted, “Karim 666 chip goh!” or “Get out of here with Satan’s microchip”.


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/just-1-7-per-cent-of-png-residents-are-vaccinated-against-covid-why-are-they-so-resistant/72c40029-dec8-4202-b436-31562d983fbc?fbclid=IwAR0LDIRTnQt7Ewd4zwSWFMsuscnR 851Ww5Cu_CSOlWZdfl42Qqz-rT0cXTQ

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59067101

Can we ban Shinners please?

[Baz]

Sounds like they were fast-tracked to their inevitable outcome.

[Spikey M]

I'm not sure why I put this in here rather than the News thread, but here we are.

[Shindig]

Almost as if getting GP's, Nurse Specialists, the DWP and whatever third party they've outsourced to speak to each other is made difficult by a pandemic. And difficult in the first place.

[Spikey M]

Blood and failing intestines on your hands Shinners. Shame on you.

[Shindig]

Nah, it’ll be one of the other dozen pair of hands the cases fall through. Like how my mam had her motability stopped because some DWP bloke ticked the wrong box.

[Lewis]

I went to London today, and behind every mask was a foreign accent. We've won.

[Spikey M]

It's London. Everyone has a foreign accent.

[Don]

Dutch experts recommending a lockdown, no sign of cases going down from yesterday's numbers and my GP has just issued a global message directing people to not shout and swear at their staff. Why the fuck am I still commuting in ffs.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's over, Taz. Your best bet is to accept it and become the office 'character' again.

[Giggles]

We’re likely going to be going back to working from home under the same rules as earlier this year and I wouldn’t be surprised if pubs and all were closed again before the month is out.

[Spikey M]

https://youtu.be/IkehF704d8g

[Baz]

Dutch experts recommending a lockdown, no sign of cases going down from yesterday's numbers and my GP has just issued a global message directing people to not shout and swear at their staff. Why the fuck am I still commuting in ffs.My work have started pushing for us to do a day in the week in the office. I need to figure out a way of saying i don’t think it’s a good idea due to the number of covid cases, without coming across as an anxious melt.

In reality I just don’t really want to, and think everyone saying “oh I just really miss seeing each other and chatting to people in corridors” are doing working from home wrong.

[Offshore Toon]

Anyone that declared COVID over was a tad naive. Just wait until the temperature drops properly.

[Giggles]

About 50:50 defiance and wishful thinking.

[Kikó]

It depends what we mean by over. Will there continue to be cases? Yes. Will it cause hospitalisations and deaths? If the vaccine is effective then this should remain at mostly no.

[Spikey M]

There will be cases. There will be deaths. There will be no lockdown. Just Mark Noble.

[Kikó]

Turtle.

[Offshore Toon]

There will be cases. There will be deaths. There will be no lockdown.
"The Gang Goes Into Lockdown"

[John Arne]

Hold on, are the majority of you lot still WFH and/or on-off days?

I assumed everyone was pretty much back to normal by now.

[Shindig]

WFH until the end of this month. Then we’re in the office 2 days a week. Unless they change their minds.

[Foe]

I go into the office on Wednesdays. This week I was in Monday and Thursday and I was exhausted.

Arsed getting back to 3 days in the office.

[Kikó]

I've been 60% in since moving. Was one day a week in London before.

[Manc]

Why the fuck am I still commuting in ffs.

Mug.

[Don]

Nah 1 post-work pint and I answered my own question. Society is thawing and we out here now fam :drool:

But yeah, as I've maintained since the start, there ain't no future in the office.

[Dquincy]

Hold on, are the majority of you lot still WFH and/or on-off days?

I assumed everyone was pretty much back to normal by now.
Only the melts are still working from home.

[Giggles]

We’re shut down this afternoon until we all pass a PCR. I can’t wait to dig the heels in on going back if there’s no result from the Polish conspiracy theorist novid twat :drool:

[Spikey M]

We are still technically working from home, but all the barriers to working normally have been removed so in reality I'm only at home a day or 2 a week now. :(

[Foe]

How many Covid tests have you lot taken?

My IRL friends were appalled when they found out I’d never done a covid test. I’ve had both jabs, but never done a test.

Apparently the government here have been recommending 2 a week, but given i only watch SSN, sky sports and Netflix I wasn’t aware of that request.

It must be quite common right?

[Andy]

I think ive had 4 Lateral flow tests, all when working in care homes. I've been working like normal since May 2020. Never had symptoms or any need to test otherwise.

[Giggles]

I’ve done 2 antigen tests (are they the same as what you call lateral flow?) and about 5 proper teats, all for work.

[Lofty]

One lateral flow test after I was at the epicentre of an outbreak traced to the pub I watched the Euro final in, but was clean and serene.

[Kikó]

I've probably done about 15 or so. Mostly due to work but also post euro final where I did actually catch it.

[Foe]

Yeah, that’s what I assumed. I’ve not had any symptoms at any point so never felt a need to take one.

Apparently I should be doing 2 a week just because. Fuck that.

[Shindig]

14, mostly all work or care home related. I've only taken one speculatively due to symptoms but they've all come back negative.

[Magic]

1 PCR when I had it.

[niko_cee]

We're about to go full heads have gone here again. 92% over 18s vaccinated (missing 2 percent of 1 dosers presumed dead as that stat has been like that for months), 80% 16 and 17 year old done, 50% 12 to 15s done, 30% boosters done, 2 people in hospital due to covid (not intensive care), mask mandate inbound.

Vaccination was sold as the way out, but, like I said, slowly but surely the nutters end up in the right. Latent authoritarianism and the slippery slope are real it would seem. I guess this is how dictatorships actually function. It's a fascinating case study but probably time to join the rebellion (which involves printing out a self-cert mask exemption card :happycry:/:face:). I doubt I'll bother but I'll only be masking if specifically challenged to do so.

[Baz]

1 PCR when I had it.

Had what?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I still haven't taken one. I lied about taking one in the summer when some melt demanded I take one in order for me to give him a lift to Kent, and then there's a PCR sitting here which I should have taken after coming back from Spain, but haven't.

I do have a load of lateral flows here just in case I ever get a symptom again, which is getting on for two years and counting.

[Yevrah]

One test to go away this weekend. Turns out I needn’t have bothered as no one has looked at the result. Maybe they will when I try and get back in the country.

[-james-]

One test to go away this weekend. Turns out I needn’t have bothered as no one has looked at the result. Maybe they will when I try and get back in the country.

They won't. The form you fill in for coming back in requires a booking confirmation for a paid PCR test but that's all. You can put any old bollocks in the form as well.

[Manc]

I'm not convinced the lateral flow efforts work.

[niko_cee]

They picked up my daughter when she had it. Was feint two lines one day, then fully double line the next [tested again whilst awaiting a PCR]. I think they can miss 'low viral loads' but then, you would probably be unlikely to be using them if you had that [as that would presumably run alongside having no actual symptoms]. It would probably be best for all concerned if they flat out just didn't work though.

[Yevrah]

They won't. The form you fill in for coming back in requires a booking confirmation for a paid PCR test but that's all. You can put any old bollocks in the form as well.

I was told this about the way out too though, but I completed that pos without uploading anything. Putting any old bollocks on it as the questions became increasingly more confusing.

[Kikó]

I'm not convinced the lateral flow efforts work.

It showed me I was positive before the PCR confirmed it.

[Giggles]

It showed me I was positive before the PCR confirmed it.


They seem to be a bit of a toss up really.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They are not that reliable but it's all in one direction - i.e. there are many false negatives but almost no false positives.

[Baz]

Biggest waste of money in our lifetime.

[phonics]

Worst thing about them is all the people complaining about how much they hurt. Just made me realise I have a fucking massive nose.

[niko_cee]

Seeing as you do them yourself anyone experiencing pain with a lateral flow must have something seriously wrong with them. I don't know why the brain probe mandate went out early doors. Not sure there was a bigger turn off for testing and so completely unneeded.

They can be sketchy on the borderline cases. With the aforementioned vague positive we did two more tests, one came out negative and one was [even more] feint positive. No false negatives save for England Rugby players it would seem.

[Giggles]

1-1 so far in work.

[Giggles]

I still haven’t got my result. Only about 6 hours off the 48 now too.

[Queenslander]

Now that's a headline.



Maori tribe tells anti-vaccine protesters to stop using haka


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/maori-tribe-tells-anti-vaxxers-to-stop-using-haka/60db5c7c-f266-406a-b914-3ef79d96d746?fbclid=IwAR0Y91rKZLE44xFoLsk3ZCWBKGpJ IXMztd0jV2vdH8pxPCcqLeUW2MixFGE

[Dquincy]

Interesting, 'leaked' document about the UK's exit strategy from Covid. Not quite sure you can exit a pandemic, but I get the point.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/14/uk-officials-have-compiled-covid-exit-strategy-from-april-report

[Don]

Bottom Ireland has brought in a midnight curfew for businesses? That would be brutal if it lasts into December and I am all for it just to see the wave of discontent amd ensuing carnage.

[Giggles]

Bottom Ireland has brought in a midnight curfew for businesses? That would be brutal if it lasts into December and I am all for it just to see the wave of discontent amd ensuing carnage.

For pubs and nightclubs, not all businesses. There won't be much hassle about it outside the usual can't work/won't work gobshites as we're still a more community based people for the most part. More civil.

[Don]

"A more community based people" :D

[Spikey M]

The lower classes usually are.

[Giggles]

True, especially when you see what you could have ended up as.

[niko_cee]

'Travellers'?

[Giggles]

Probably preferable to being closer to the English.

[Spikey M]

Working from home has made you particularly prickly today Giggers. Or is that kebab still weighing you down?

[Giggles]

Nah the last one was just being ready for the usual suspect dragging his knuckles in. Could set the watch by it.

[Yevrah]

So I’ve just been messaged by NHS tracing to say I’ve been in close contact with a Covid spreader and need to isolate for 10 days unless I’m exempt.

I’ve been double jabbed so I’m exempt, right? I’m which case, why are they bothering me?

[Ian]

They send the messages anyway.

And for me when my niece caught it it changed depending on how recently you'd been jabbed, etc. Of course all that might have changed and/or be different between Scotland and England anyway.

[Giggles]

Sounds like all the records aren't aligned so the contract tracing end of things isn't verifying against the vaccination end of things.

[Don]

It's because it's now widely accepted that the vaccination is pointless IIRC.

[Giggles]

It's because it's now widely accepted that the vaccination is pointless IIRC.

:lol: you fucking imbecile.

[niko_cee]

:D

Our chief minister has gone down with it which is pretty lol as he was standing maskless next to Jacob Rees-Mogg (undoubtedly good mates) and many others at the cenotaph the other day, after just having told everyone they should be wearing masks at every possible opportunity.

[Kikó]

Having a nostalgic covid conspiracy argument on Facebook with a couple of friends (well one is). Properly thick people.

[Manc]

Mark Noble.

[Lofty]

Are Scotland still pretty hardcore on covid rules? Supposed to be going up to Edinburgh next weekend but not sure I can be arsed if it is total covid up there, no-one seems to give a fuck round here anymore.

[Giggles]

Get 5 days off here now if you share a house with someone that tests positive.

[Waffdon]

Are Scotland still pretty hardcore on covid rules? Supposed to be going up to Edinburgh next weekend but not sure I can be arsed if it is total covid up there, no-one seems to give a fuck round here anymore.

Wearing a mask indoors is like the only rule as far as I’m aware and even then nobody will say anything to you

[Smjffy]

:D

Our chief minister has gone down with it which is pretty lol as he was standing maskless next to Jacob Rees-Mogg (undoubtedly good mates) and many others at the cenotaph the other day, after just having told everyone they should be wearing masks at every possible opportunity.

Did you see the video of our first minister Drakeford dancing the night away with a load of unmasked youngsters? Twattish move tbh. Not that he wasn't wearing one but that he's been giving it the big 'un and enforcing so much on the rest of Wales. Angers me the whole Covid thing now which is some turn around from how I felt when it first hit. Not saying it's bullshit but the way we continue to deal with it is.

[Spikey M]

Mark Noble.

It's lost all power. :(