The Travel Thread

[randomlegend]

600 notes for the evening plus drink on top. I am reading that right yeah?

You are. Even I baulk at that to be honest.

[Spikey M]

"Even I" from the man letting children DIE for a pay rise.

https://i.ibb.co/WzymMvJ/Hannah-Waddingham-With-Shame-Bell-Game-of-Thrones.jpg

[Boydy]

A pay rise that he'll just squander on more fancy dinners. Sounds like doctors are paid too much as it is.

[randomlegend]

Seethe on chaps, don't mind me.

[Spikey M]

:mad:

[Bam]

You are. Even I baulk at that to be honest.


I didn't, pittance.

[Giggles]

Phwoar.

[John Arne]

Back from Japan. Some notes, and thanks to all for the recommendations.

It's awesome, with some caveats. My first week in Tokyo was awesome - loved the atmosphere, the vibe, the tech, the hustle; Shibuya, Shinjuku, SkyTree, Gardens, Golden Gai, Electric town prob my favourite, red light district was lame, everything else was boss. Sumo, footy and basketball were all great.

Then went to the mountains (Gunma) for 3 days, which was great and somehow reminded me of England (landscape, weather).

Interestingly, when back to Tokyo I was kinda ready to leave. Tired of talking to machines, tired of the size of the place, tired of the lack of genuine sincere interactions and waiting at a red light without a car in sight.

Would deffo return, however, would certainly go to Osaka, Kyoto and the west coast.

All in all, top notch.

[Lewis]

Whoever has been doing propaganda for Edinburgh is a genius because it is proper ordinary. I liked the castle and its museums, but generally speaking it would disappear in the list of British cathedral places, and that's without every other shop being a shit tourist one and everything costing twice what it would elsewhere. I think making clear the reality of having that as your capital would be the best argument against Scottish independence.

[Magic]

It absolutely isn't ordinary you classless goon.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Lewis taking on Scottish exceptionalism, the hero we need.

That said, I liked it.

[Spikey M]

I was of the understanding that Glasgow is the proper capital of Scotland and Edinburgh exists just to keep the tourists away / to give the crown shaggers somewhere to go?

[Magic]

Glasgow is a shithole.

[niko_cee]

Aye, but people from Edinburgh are pretentious twats for the most part.

[Spikey M]

That and the faux-posh Scottish accent is possibly more annoying than the faux-posh English one. Talk properly.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Proper old school posh accents are much better than the public school cunt mockney ones which are now prevalent in those circles.

It does sound like a lot of effort to talk how Michael Gove talks.

[Lewis]

It's basically Bristol if every other shop sold Stonehenge fridge magnets and Manchester United stuff, they swapped Somalians for jugglers and suitcase-wielding tourists, and made every breakfast twenty quid. But I've been there now, I've been to Thurso, and work are threatening me with a beano to the Outer Hebrides, so I'm well-placed to have completed Scotland within the next year.

[Baz]

BuT wHaT aBoUt ThE dOg StAtUe?

Remember that photo of me licking it? :cool:

[Mike]

It’s just a colder York.

[Manc]

Edinburgh is quality.

[ScousePig]

I'm going to Copenhagen in December. Anything decent to do there that I shouldn't miss?

Just having a bit of a catch up in this thread. I went to Copenhagen last summer and enjoyed it. I did some tours through Airbnb as I went on my own, one of which was a bike tour which took me to places I wouldn't have otherwise gone, in particular Christiania. Do some research before you go as it's dangerous, but certainly an interesting place. Other than that, I liked Tivoli Gardens and there are a couple of nice parks outside the centre in Frederiksberg near where I was staying. I also went on a boat tour with www.heycaptain.dk which was well worth it.

This year I've been to Seville and Como. I'll probably go to Lake Garda next year to compare.

[Spikey M]

I generally try not to judge on nationality as you get decent people and cunts in every country, but Russia really is the exception that proves the rule, isn't it? Loud, rude, no understanding of queues or waiting their turn and happy to just shout at people for any minor incident.

Today a Russian woman shouted at a Dutch / German kid because - I assume, she did the shouting in Russian - he was taking too long on the pool ladder. The kids dad then had to beat a hasty retreat when her roid monster Husband got up from his sunbed. :happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Don't tell me you're in Sharm or some other horrendous intercontinental outpost that is still accepting Russians. Dubai? Surely not.

[Giggles]

South Africans and Israelis are generally worse people than Russians.

[Spikey M]

Don't tell me you're in Sharm or some other horrendous intercontinental outpost that is still accepting Russians. Dubai? Surely not.

Lara Beach, Turkey. Russkis everywhere.

[Manc]

Getting your teeth done?

[Spikey M]

Getting your teeth done?

No, but I can conform that Scotland has a major epidemic of new Hairlines arriving over the next week.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lara Beach, Turkey. Russkis everywhere.

Yeah Turkey is rife with Russian tourists.

Cyprus is also getting there (pre-war, don't know about now).

[Ben]

Been hardly any in Paphos for years. When I first started going there were plenty but been on a steady decline for a long time and I think Cyprus have made it quite difficult for Russian tourists since being outed for the cash-for-visa thing.

[randomlegend]

Lara Beach, Turkey. Russkis everywhere.

You'd not be Russian back then I take it?

[Spikey M]

Ideally not, but it's not England and it's not raining, so it does have that going for it.

[Dquincy]

What is the temperature out there at the mo? And are the Russian ladies at least attractive? Always good to have some nice views around the pool.

[Magic]

I generally try not to judge on nationality as you get decent people and cunts in every country, but Russia really is the exception that proves the rule, isn't it? Loud, rude, no understanding of queues or waiting their turn and happy to just shout at people for any minor incident.

Today a Russian woman shouted at a Dutch / German kid because - I assume, she did the shouting in Russian - he was taking too long on the pool ladder. The kids dad then had to beat a hasty retreat when her roid monster Husband got up from his sunbed. :happycry:

You've just described English tourists lol.

[Spikey M]

You've just described English tourists lol.

I've never known an Englishman piss themselves in the middle of an airport

[Kikó]

Russians are definitely the drunkest people I've ever encountered in the wild with a notable second place to Finland.

[John Arne]

Ruskies have taken over a couple of beach towns here, and to generalise massively, they are the worst. Rude, fat ugly birds wearing bikinis in the street, and complain about everything. #racist

[Bam]

What is the temperature out there at the mo? And are the Russian ladies at least attractive? Always good to have some nice views around the pool.


This bollocks about Russian birds being stunners needs to stop, most of them are munters.

[Spikey M]

Can confirm. They all appear to have their hair cut by a farmer with a hammer and sickle too.

[Bam]

And the body of a shot putter. :vomit:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The hot Russian women at resorts are dating mafia.

[Magic]

This bollocks about Russian birds being stunners needs to stop, most of them are munters.

Take it up with the webscammers, nobody is saying that IRL.

[Bam]

Think you have quoted the wrong person.

[Dquincy]

I have had personal experience of hot Russian women on holiday, but will accept it's a wide ranging spectrum.

[igor_balis]

This week in Edinburgh has been so great, I need to get the fuck back here long term. I feel better able to appreciate it now I'm older and slightly less fucking stupid.

[Ben]

No doubt Giggles will be in here soon to tell me how I'm going to get fleeced but our betting syndicate have just booked up two days at Punchestown Festival, three nights at K Club plus a round of golf there. :cool:

[Giggles]

If you're going near the K Club then you're loaded enough you needn't worry about being fleeced.

[Ben]

Syndicate is paying for accommodation and tickets. I’ve got to stump up the rest. Oops.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

£88.50 for a new passport, has that been Brexited? It feels like it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

A small price to pay for the right to roam God's earth as a true-born Englishman.

[niko_cee]

That price seems fairly par for the course looking at general European passport prices. I reckon I might end up with one of the last purple [Maroon? Burgundy?] ones. Already the last man standing in my household and still nearly 4 years to run.

[Ben]

It was £72 back in 2007 so we're getting a relative bargain these days. Having said that, it must cost them half the price to make the thing now because they're flimsy as fuck. My wife has a Brexit one and it's the shits. My EU one is tough as old boots.

[Lofty]

Thinking of doing New York for my 40th, wife also wants to do a Norwegian cruise at some point. Any tips for either appreciated.

[Waffdon]

Do New York and then go to Boston and do Princess Cruise around Canada

[Raoul Duke]

Thinking of doing New York for my 40th, wife also wants to do a Norwegian cruise at some point. Any tips for either appreciated.

For NY, do you mean like "things to do" or bars/restaurants?

[Shindig]

My sister's finally given me dates for a proposed NYC trip. September. £1500pp. Not a chance. March is too soon for her which is currently half the price. :moop:

Tips? Standard stuff like booking the trips out to Ellis Island/Liberty Island. Book that stuff in advance. I didn't bother with the Empire State building but you do get a top view of the city from there. Another one you definitely need to book in advance for. Manhattan's fairly walkable but the subway's convenient. Just got to tolerate the homeless and the rats. I'd recommend walking the Brooklyn Bridge but it will always be busy. For something close to peace and quiet, Central Park is nice.

Can't say much about food/drink because I most hit the food trucks for convenience. As for museums and such, I bloody love the Intrepid. It's a big aircraft carrier that I loved poking around in. And it has a Blackbird on the flight deck. And a Concorde. And a Space Shuttle. And a Submarine. I didn't visit the 9/11 one but I wish I had.

[Lewis]

Has anyone been to Madeira?

[Pepe]

@Kiko

[Waffdon]

Has anyone been to Madeira?

Toboggan‘s arent worth the price or the wait

[-james-]

I went there on every save about twenty years ago.

[Kikó]

@Kiko

The airport will give you the shits.

[Manc]

Magic

[Lofty]

For NY, do you mean like "things to do" or bars/restaurants?

Both. Also is it better to book a package flight and hotel or separate, any hotels to avoid? Want to tour the Ghostbusters locations like Hook and Ladder 8, the library, Tavern on the Green etc if possible. There's actually an Ecto 1 replica tour that does it all but costs a lot. Think the wife wants to do the natural history museum too. Will mix it up with eating cheap and a nice meal or too, a good steakhouse maybe.

[Ben]

Package just makes things easier. If you want to save, always book separately.

Trivago for hotel, Skyscanner/Google for flights.

[Shindig]

Yeah, I take packages because it's one less entity to deal with. Extra helpful if ... for example a worldwide pandemic stuffs your holiday.

[Raoul Duke]

Both. Also is it better to book a package flight and hotel or separate, any hotels to avoid? Want to tour the Ghostbusters locations like Hook and Ladder 8, the library, Tavern on the Green etc if possible. There's actually an Ecto 1 replica tour that does it all but costs a lot. Think the wife wants to do the natural history museum too. Will mix it up with eating cheap and a nice meal or too, a good steakhouse maybe.

My knowledge is a 5 years or so old, so bear in mind, but I'd probably try and stay in Manhattan if you can. Brooklyn/Williamsburg also good options if you don't mind being a little out the centre but the Metro is fine for getting around.

Museums/stuff has mostly been covered above. I like the Rockefeller Center and the view from Top Of The Rock. Other than that just hit all the major stuff like Times Square (meh, but check out Katz's Delicatessen), Central Park, museums etc. My wife did a tour of Staten Island which she said was cool.

Beauty & Essex was a restaurant we went to that was pretty cool

[Ben]

Booked Malta last night. Old before my time.

[Giggles]

Malta is excellent.

[SvN]

My knowledge is a 5 years or so old, so bear in mind, but I'd probably try and stay in Manhattan if you can. Brooklyn/Williamsburg also good options if you don't mind being a little out the centre but the Metro is fine for getting around.


We stayed in a box room opposite the Empire State Building and it was cheap-ish. Tiny, but excellent location.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just arrived in Bangkok and they've confirmed that the police will have to come on board to arrest someone.

It appears that a guy kept touching a girl next to him and a guy in front warned him. He did it again which resulted in the guy in front smacking him over the head with a metal water bottle.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Guy who got arrested is an old bald British guy with a Thai wife and kid.

[Shindig]

The least you could've done was video it.

[Spikey M]

Guy who got arrested is an old bald British guy with a Thai wife and kid.

Just say paedophile.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The least you could've done was video it.

And get arrested too?

[Shindig]

Fair point. As for the couple in question, I bet it's one of those, "We don't learn each other's language so we can't argue!" nightmares.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Someone did try to take photos and a flight attendant swiftly told him he better put his phone away.

The beret lads don't fuck around apparently.

[Lewis]

Just say paedophile.

Did you miss the fact that he is reporting this first hand?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was trying to find a direct flight from Phuket to Koh Samui for later this week and none were showing on the date I wanted, not even on the airline's website.

Was resigned to taking an indirect flight but the best one's on Skyscanner were not available when I clicked through.

Decided just to take a punt on Googling the flight and it found me the direct flight via Bangkok Airways' website (which wasn't showing at all on their site) and about 95% of the plane was free and I was able to book it.

What the fuck is going on there?

[John Arne]

Make sure it's the legit website. There a lot of website out there, with slightly different URLs pretending to be legit sites. For example, we have VietJet, and there vietjet.vn, vietjetair, vietjet.com and many others scamming people.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's legit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well I know why now.

I booked it for the 22nd March...

Thankfully there were seats spare on today's flight and they changed it for free.

What a fucking mong I am.

[John Arne]

Well I know why now.

I booked it for the 22nd March...

Thankfully there were seats spare on today's flight and they changed it for free.

What a fucking mong I am.

:D

Odds on getting a refund for the March flight?

Edit: I can't read properly. Free change. Result.

[Pepe]

Well I know why now.

I booked it for the 22nd March...

Thankfully there were seats spare on today's flight and they changed it for free.

What a fucking mong I am.

:lol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was a really fun plane journey too.

72 seater small plane and Samui airport is tiny.

Here's the arrivals terminal:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/202402_Domestic_Arrival_Gate_of_USM.jpg/1280px-202402_Domestic_Arrival_Gate_of_USM.jpg

Glad I didn't have to wait a month to see it.

[wullie]

We went to Amsterdam last week, very cold but very nice. Also the first time anywhere without the five year old which was like some kind of magical dream, as much as we love her. Hotel was an arty poncy one where there was no reception, instead the staff were just 1/2 people hanging around on laptops and the breakfast room was continually restocked with pastries and later in the day, pick 'n' mix for some reason. Instead of a bar anyone staying there had free run of the fridge so it meant at least I didn't have to pay money anywhere to find out jenever is absolutely rancid.

[Yevrah]

You could genuinely have a decent holiday in Samui airport. If the weather improves get yourself up to Jungle Club Mahow. Really nice food and cracking views across the whole of the island. They'll pick you up to save the monstrous walk up the hill too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

One of the waitresses mentioned that Jungle Club, she pretty much gave a rundown of the whole of Samui.

Did request a booking for Tuesday lunch time but because the weather is shit (and is predicted to rain for pretty much all of my stay) it seems it's going to be booked out due to the limited indoor seating.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was chilling on a sun lounger by one of the pools and had to run in as it started absolutely hammering it down, just look at the forecast ffs:

https://i.imgur.com/PpTKMm7.png

Here until Thursday...

"How much does it rain on Koh Samui in February? It rains very little in February – it's typically the driest month. Total rainfall is just 30 mm (just over an inch), spread across an average of 5 barely rainy days."

:moop:

Happened to pick the 5 days.

[John Arne]

Yeah, same here. Fucking annoying. I genuinely cannot remember it raining in February... Yet we are getting the odd every now and then. Fucking Tories.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's non-stop rain here today and they're forecasting 35-45mm of rain throughout the day.

The average total rainfall for February here is 25-35mm...

Absolute fucking shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You could genuinely have a decent holiday in Samui airport. If the weather improves get yourself up to Jungle Club Mahow. Really nice food and cracking views across the whole of the island. They'll pick you up to save the monstrous walk up the hill too.
At the Jungle Club for lunch.

Views are insane.

Sadly rain came so had to move inside.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also went to Koh Mad Sum today aka Pig Island.

The boat ride over was choppy as hell and I think I'd have been drier had I swam over.

Greeted by about 20 fucking feral dogs on the pier who were just nipping at my heels constantly whilst I was trying to walk round. Pigs were all clearly starving and not swimming around in the sea happy like the photos.

Absolute horseshit.

[Pepe]

:lol:

Should've taken the March flight.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Going to a Muay Thai event at the Samui International Stadium in a bit.

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/8d294e_9abec4a8c72d44d595bd80effa61c0c7~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_506,h_716,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/8d294e_9abec4a8c72d44d595bd80effa61c0c7~mv2.jpg

Mon Marek.

[SvN]

Most of those people look AI generated.

[Pepe]

He'll get there and be him and the dogs again.

[Bernanke]

Most of those people look AI generated.

I've for sure had a few of them as regens on FM.

[SvN]

I've for sure had a few of them as regens on FM.

Looks like they've updated the card, and Mahow's boy is out. Skeptical about the replacement though.

https://i.imgur.com/CTf2gQI.png

[Manc]

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

Front row seats \0/.

[niko_cee]

Needs more Mahows on the poster.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Super Marek wins with a head kick TKO in the second round.

[Spoonsky]

Mahow, you could really write a superb series of travelogues if you wanted to. Volume 1: Ukraine, Volume 2: Thailand, what's next? Abkhazia? West Virginia?

[Spoonsky]

You could genuinely have a decent holiday in Samui airport. If the weather improves get yourself up to Jungle Club Mahow. Really nice food and cracking views across the whole of the island. They'll pick you up to save the monstrous walk up the hill too.

Yev is one of the white guys in the new White Lotus. It all makes sense.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You could genuinely have a decent holiday in Samui airport. If the weather improves get yourself up to Jungle Club Mahow. Really nice food and cracking views across the whole of the island. They'll pick you up to save the monstrous walk up the hill too.
The departure section is like a little shopping mall in the US but a lot more chilled.

The free snacks and drinks a nice touch too.

[Lewis]

Madeira was good. Funchal is nice but you can do it all in an afternoon. The cable car and the toboggan bollocks was alright, and the Ronaldo museum was proper lol but only a few euros to get into so worth a look. It is replicas of the all Champions' Leagues, Premierships, etc. that he has won along with what must surely be replicas of his individual trophies. I say surely because you would expect him to have his Golden Boots and that in his house, but I'm prepared to accept that the Barclays Player of the Month and whatever award some Madrid newspaper gave him were the real deal. It was the only place on the island that I say any concentration of Indians (presumably working on the cruise ships), which makes me think its primary purpose is to serve as the island's fly paper.

Hiring a car and driving around was the highlight, and with the benefits of hindsight another day doing that would have been worthwhile to do the Eastern side of the island as well. You can just drive around in the hills and the views from random stopping points were all spectacular.

[Giggles]

I can’t be arsed looking for anywhere new and Croatia was good last year so I’ve booked it again. Same hotel and all.

[Giggles]

Still have to inform herself :uhoh:

[Raoul Duke]

I can’t be arsed looking for anywhere new and Croatia was good last year so I’ve booked it again. Same hotel and all.

I'm going there this year - any tips?

Going for a few days in Dubrovnik, Hvar and Split

[Giggles]

I'm going there this year - any tips?

Going for a few days in Dubrovnik, Hvar and Split

I stayed in Cavtat, nice and quiet and took the boat a couple of days to Dubrovnik. Can’t offer any real tips sorry, we just basically mooched for a week. There was a surprisingly nice Sushi place in the old Dubrovnik town, as I thought everything there would be tat, and there’s a small craft brewery in Dubrovnik does real nice bar food.

[Giggles]

The sushi place one of the first few restaurants on the right you come to after doing the full walk of the walls now that I think of it.

[Pepe]

Proper 90s father directions.

"What's the street name?"

"Count four speed bumps and after the Pepsi sign turn left."

[Jimmy Floyd]

*Irish.

Past the stone wall after Joe's field and third on your right. No, not young Joe's field, his father Joe's other field, the one where the horses used to be. No, not Joe's horses, Declan's horses, so they were.

[Boydy]

Yeah, and they work: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/donegal-postman-delivers-letter-to-your-man-with-the-glasses-1.2289890

[niko_cee]

I was in that London over the weekend and came across the excellently named Mincing Lane (https://maps.app.goo.gl/CpefQPYuDPPUFqoN8) and if that wasn't good enough it was followed up with the even better named Seething Lane (https://maps.app.goo.gl/EvL6yTZHKa4yzp216) 50 yards down the road. Nearly stopped to take a pic for future use of the latter.

[Shindig]

I'll see if I spot them when I'm down there at the weekend. :D

[Shindig]

London seems canny so far, although I was nearly crushed in Southwark by the sheer popularity of the market.

Homelessness is there but the place doesn't stink like the major US cities do. Plus there's loads or ornate fancy buildings.

[Manc]

How have you never been to London before?

[Yevrah]

Did Mahow ever come back or does Bangkok have him now?

[Shindig]

How have you never been to London before?

I've barely had the urge to. I'd connect through Heathrow for flights further afield but never stopped in the city.

[Foe]

How have you never been to London before?

London doesn’t have the appeal I think many thinks it does. If I hadn’t gone for work a decade ago for a few weeks and roamed I wouldn’t have been because I wouldn’t have chosen to myself. way too busy.

[Shindig]

It's definitely packed in a way old streets can't handle. Tomorrow's going to be insufferable.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did Mahow ever come back or does Bangkok have him now?
I did come back.

I liked Thailand a lot but it wasn't for me and I wouldn't go again.

[Yevrah]

How can you like somewhere a lot but it not be for you? Genuinely interested rather than that being a dig btw.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I enjoyed my holiday but I wouldn't go again.

I didn't like the smell it was a heady mix of weed and durian both smells I dislike on their own and together they were an assault at times.

It was too crowded in places and there were far too many Brits. I could have gone to other areas which weren't as touristy, especially with Brits which would have helped with that but oh well.

I did like the food (although despite always saying "spicy" I never had anything that blew my head off unless I kept adding chillies/sauces/dips myself), the people were friendly and I saw and experienced a lot of things that I never have before and likely wont again.

Edit: Actually, having thought about it the Brits were mostly fine. The Russians were bad though.

[Shindig]

I've been thinking all week about how many near misses I've seen on London's roads. Turns out a van has smashed into some pedestrians on The Strand.

[niko_cee]

I'm in (at?) Efteling in the Low Countries. Quality place, even if the roads of these lands are entirely impervious to satellite navigation. Damn thing kept changing its mind interminably. Had no idea there would also be so many cool houses in and about both Holland and perhaps even more surprisingly Belgium. Would definitely be up for some kind of cycling tour of the brewery lands around Westvleteren.

[Giggles]

Italy next month. How stupid would I be to attempt driving over there?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's fine.

I'd suggest breaking it up into manageable parts (and/or have someone else so you can switch) as it will make it more enjoyable.

Me and my Mum drove from Bologna and it was grand, I did most of the stuff in and around the Alps as my Mum is scared of driving at altitude but I don't have a problem with it.

[Giggles]

I'm on a tight schedule so I'll be just around Milan.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've known a few people who have done Poland which is 19 hours or so stopping only for food/petrol/toilet.

Obviously you're going to be doing more than that but you'll have two ferries/one ferry and a channel tunnel.

How long are you going for too? I'd probably suggest not bothering if it's sub 2 weeks personally.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm in Munich this week. I've been here many times and never has it felt more like a country in a steep decline. All the talk is of the car industry collapsing and the Chinese taking over, the streets are dirty, the infrastructure is barely working. I'd like to say it feels like home but honestly, even current Britain feels more optimistic than this.

[niko_cee]

Italy next month. How stupid would I be to attempt driving over there?

Unless you mean driving from Ireland, it's fine. Italy is quite entertaining to drive in, not sure anywhere is worse to drive in than Britain generally. The Dutch and Belgians do seem to be fond of massive far left lane to far right lane after a junction switches though.

[Giggles]

Unless you mean driving from Ireland, it's fine. Italy is quite entertaining to drive in, not sure anywhere is worse to drive in than Britain generally. The Dutch and Belgians do seem to be fond of massive far left lane to far right lane after a junction switches though.

The Dutch and Belgians sound like the Irish. So long as they also bomb from lane 3 to exit as well.

[phonics]

Italy next month. How stupid would I be to attempt driving over there?

The inner cities are the only place you’d ever have an issue with.

I’m not sure what’s most efficient but while driving try make the most of that pass through the peaks between Switzerland and Italy. It’s a truly beautiful thing to experience, especially in the spring/summer.

[Kikó]

I'm in Munich this week. I've been here many times and never has it felt more like a country in a steep decline. All the talk is of the car industry collapsing and the Chinese taking over, the streets are dirty, the infrastructure is barely working. I'd like to say it feels like home but honestly, even current Britain feels more optimistic than this.

Not a Munich I've experienced. Anyway come to Frankfurt and have some skag with me.

[Spikey M]

I didn't have Keeks and Jimmy doing heroin together on my 2025 bingo card.

[Kikó]

It's the tariffs.

[Shindig]

On skag specifically?