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WHAT: The Union of Egg-Chasing's premier international tournament.
WHEN: From today until... whenever the final is.
WHERE: Japan
WHY: Moar freds, innit.
Opening game is today with Japan taking on Russia at 11.45am.
I'll watch as much of it as I can, especially the knockouts, but work is liable to interfere because of the times of day the games are on.
If we get one thing as enjoyable as Japan beating the Saffers last time I'll be happy I reckon. And ideally if New Zealand don't win AGAIN. Which they probably will. Dickheads.
Queenslander
20-09-2019, 09:45 AM
Saffers are my smokey.
France and Japan to do bits.
Japan nearly gifting the Russians a try there.
Queenslander
20-09-2019, 11:08 AM
Pocock is my player of the tournment. Also IRB most handsome player of the year.
SincereTheRebel
20-09-2019, 11:20 AM
I've never watched a Rugby game from start to finish but I will try and tune into a game.
I've never watched a Rugby game from start to finish but I will try and tune into a game.Don't bother, mate. It's rugby yawnion.
The proper rugby world cup is in 2021. Prepare.
The Merse
20-09-2019, 02:10 PM
Can’t wait to get out there.
Flying out on the 6th through to the 21st, heading to Sco vs Russia, Aussies vs Georgia and the Quarter Final that the runner up in Scotland/Ireland/Japans group will end up in. Likely Scotland vs All Blacks.
Will hit up a few fan parks for big matches between those whilst getting around Japan with a mate.
Was feeling relatively positive about Scotland, but the omissions of Matt Fagerson, Richie Gray and Rory Hutchinson and Toonie dropping Graham in favour of Maitland, never mind the ongoing inclusion of the limited Ryan Wilson, has set a disappointing early tone.
Giggles
20-09-2019, 05:15 PM
Don't bother, mate. It's rugby yawnion.
The proper rugby world cup is in 2021. Prepare.
Baz knows :cool:
The Merse
21-09-2019, 02:44 AM
League-heads are all wrong.
Oldie but a goody that sums it all up (ie rugby league is a game for meathead thickos):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9JWLSNbqaUI
Queenslander
21-09-2019, 03:38 AM
I would love to have the best League players playing for the Wallabies.
Queenslander
21-09-2019, 04:52 AM
If Beale is to fucking hopeless to find touch then it will be a long day.
Queenslander
21-09-2019, 04:56 AM
Fucking Kurtley Beale.
Spikey M
21-09-2019, 07:24 AM
Fiji :(
Queenslander
21-09-2019, 07:35 AM
Losing their 7 to concussion was a big win for us.
Disco
21-09-2019, 09:09 AM
France almost French enough to throw that one away.
I enjoyed the end of that game until they failed to French it up enough.
Also that set is pretty lol.
I'm not sure I've seen New Zealand kept to their own half for this long, Saffers just keeping at it so far but you feel they need to get some points out of it.
John Arne
21-09-2019, 10:31 AM
The Argie full back trying to claim that the drop goal didn't go over the posts :Face:
hfswjyr
21-09-2019, 12:14 PM
Good game with some poor refereeing there. Some of the skills shown by both teams are out of this world. And SBW has decided he's in the team to kick.
Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2019, 08:19 AM
Scotland are tragic.
niko_cee
22-09-2019, 08:37 AM
Is there any way to make the scrum non-farcical?
Why are you allowed to put it in ludicrously not straight when you can't do the same at a line-out? Isn't it, at least theoretically, meant to be fed into the middle/hooker region?
Queenslander
22-09-2019, 08:53 AM
Yep. Pretty much left to the ref these days which sucks.
Queenslander
22-09-2019, 09:09 AM
Bit of scrap atm.
Is there any way to make the scrum non-farcical?
Why are you allowed to put it in ludicrously not straight when you can't do the same at a line-out? Isn't it, at least theoretically, meant to be fed into the middle/hooker region?
Didn't they make a big song and dance about how the refs were ordered to be on top of this starting at the '18 Six Nations and it lasted about fifteen minutes of the first game?
Queenslander
22-09-2019, 09:32 AM
This a pretty ugly game.
Disco
22-09-2019, 10:24 AM
The delicious irony is if you made them do proper scrums where the hookers had to actually hook then they'd fall over an awful lot less.
ItalAussie
23-09-2019, 08:02 AM
My wildly early assessment based on a handful of games is that NZ-SA is the most likely final.
Cue both going out in the quarter-final stage.
hfswjyr
23-09-2019, 10:59 AM
Don't jinx us like that.
I don't think any team has looked particularly outstanding yet. A lot of tougher tests to come though.
Jimmy Floyd
23-09-2019, 11:34 AM
As long as Wales don't win I'm happy.
Queenslander
25-09-2019, 07:52 AM
Uruguay 30 - Fiji 27 :drool:
Queenslander
28-09-2019, 05:13 AM
Righto then Tonga is a League Nation.
Jimmy Floyd
28-09-2019, 08:47 AM
Japan absolutely all over the Irish here. Look by far the better team.
Disco
28-09-2019, 08:49 AM
You feel the Irish will finish the stronger but man, what a second half this has been.
Japan. :cool:
Ireland will get it over the line you'd think but it's been good stuff.
Jimmy Floyd
28-09-2019, 08:53 AM
Yeah they need another score or two to win it, but they just look so disciplined compared to other tier 2 nations.
Disco
28-09-2019, 09:12 AM
Wallop. What a performance, can they top the group from here?
Giggles
28-09-2019, 09:20 AM
Glorious.
https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/633/369/9369633.gif
ItalAussie
28-09-2019, 09:51 AM
What was the Irish kick at full-time? Surrender? Didn't hear the whistle?
Jimmy Floyd
28-09-2019, 09:55 AM
Protecting the losing bonus point, they say, which is exactly my kind of cynicism, that's how you get through tournaments.
I doubt you could have not heard that gong.
Yevrah
28-09-2019, 12:21 PM
How does that work Jim?
Disco
28-09-2019, 12:38 PM
The losing bonus point?
Jimmy Floyd
28-09-2019, 01:06 PM
How does that work Jim?
The scoring system is 4pts for a win, 0pts for a loss, but with the following bonus points available: any team that scores 4 tries in a game gets 1pt, and if you lose by 7 or fewer, you get 1pt.
As such if they'd carried on desperately playing they would have risked Japan scoring again which would have taken them beyond 7pts clear and so Ireland would have lost their BP.
Ireland have already comfortably won their supposedly hardest game (vs Scotland) and only have Samoa and Russia to come in the group, so with the extra bonus point from today's game all they need is a couple of comfortable wins there, a helpful result elsewhere, and they will still top the group. Without the bonus point, they would have been more reliant on several other results. 2nd place in this group plays the All Blacks in the QF, so you don't want that.
niko_cee
28-09-2019, 01:11 PM
First plays South Africa though doesn't it (?) which isn't much better. I suppose Japan might fancy that.
Yevrah
28-09-2019, 11:37 PM
Cheers.Why would a losing bonus point exist though? Unless I'm missing something that strikes me as a shit idea.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 12:42 AM
Ireland would have to fancy themselves against South Africa.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rugby_union_matches_between_Ireland_and _South_Africa
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 06:33 AM
It is a shame Georgia and Italy are not in the same group.
Cheers.Why would a losing bonus point exist though? Unless I'm missing something that strikes me as a shit idea.
Just more chance for the better teams to get more points as they're more likely to get that sort of bonus point. Bonus points in general are bollocks.
Giggles
29-09-2019, 07:42 AM
:cool: Such a troll, but a legend all the same.
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Queenslander
29-09-2019, 08:12 AM
Foley playing well lol
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 08:31 AM
The IRB are soft cunts
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 08:34 AM
Well Rugby has been ruined.
niko_cee
29-09-2019, 08:41 AM
:D
They'd already had a warning about that.
I must say I have no idea (as with most rugby rules) how the rush defence works with the offside rule - does the interceptor guy have to be behind the ball when Genia (was it?) picks it up?
As for the Irish, which ones is it that don't like the team and is it because it's an all Ireland effort?
Giggles
29-09-2019, 08:45 AM
:D
They'd already had a warning about that.
I must say I have no idea (as with most rugby rules) how the rush defence works with the offside rule - does the interceptor guy have to be behind the ball when Genia (was it?) picks it up?
As for the Irish, which ones is it that don't like the team and is it because it's an all Ireland effort?
It’s not an all Ireland effort, it’s an Ireland + Loyalist Northern Ireland effort, that’s the problem. It’s not a national side at all but more a makey-uppey thing like the Barbarians or something. Any “national” side not playing their anthem before a game for fear of offending our enemies is no national side at all.
It’s also an elitist sport in this country also, which doesn’t help.
niko_cee
29-09-2019, 08:54 AM
It’s not an all Ireland effort, it’s an Ireland + Loyalist Northern Ireland effort, that’s the problem. It’s not a national side at all but more a makey-uppey thing like the Barbarians or something. Any “national” side not playing their anthem before a game for fear of offending our enemies is no national side at all.
It’s also an elitist sport in this country also, which doesn’t help.
It's an elitist sport everywhere.
We're going to go to the wall internationally when Red Jez shuts down the public schools (same for cricket).
I know it's a minefield, but the people from the north who want a united Ireland not wanting to play for a united Ireland rugby team (is that what you are saying?), whatever way you want to look at it, seems daft.
niko_cee
29-09-2019, 08:57 AM
Anyway, does this outcome if it stays the same mean that should England win their group their route to the final is Australia then New Zealand? Hmmm.
Giggles
29-09-2019, 08:59 AM
It's an elitist sport everywhere.
We're going to go to the wall internationally when Red Jez shuts down the public schools (same for cricket).
I know it's a minefield, but the people from the north who want a united Ireland not wanting to play for a united Ireland rugby team (is that what you are saying?), whatever way you want to look at it, seems daft.
This United Ireland that people talk about (the amalgamation of Ireland and Northern Ireland) doesn’t exist so there should be an Ireland (Republic in the name like the soccer team if you like) rugby team and a Northern Ireland rugby team. Or the NI players should be playing with Scotland as the demographic there that plays and follows the sport would be far more aligned to Scotland than Ireland. Then we could have a compromise-free national side of our own.
Same goes for cricket, hockey, etc (the Loyalist sports). ‘Irelands Call’ can kiss my hole.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 08:59 AM
If we had Toomua starting we would be not as shit. No shame losing to this Wales team obviously.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 09:07 AM
This is a disgrace.
niko_cee
29-09-2019, 09:08 AM
This United Ireland that people talk about (the amalgamation of Ireland and Northern Ireland) doesn’t exist so there should be an Ireland (Republic in the name like the soccer team if you like) rugby team and a Northern Ireland rugby team. Or the NI players should be playing with Scotland as the demographic there that plays and follows the sport would be far more aligned to Scotland than Ireland. Then we could have a compromise-free national side of our own.
Same goes for cricket, hockey, etc (the Loyalist sports). ‘Irelands Call’ can kiss my hole.
Is the existence of the team in it's current form an anachronism because it existed before the division of the countries (international rugby has been around for longer than international football) or is it modern construct?
This high tackle shit is worse than VAR in football.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 09:22 AM
Good tight forward shift.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 09:28 AM
And our scrum is dominant...
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 09:38 AM
Fuck the French.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 09:44 AM
Well played Wales.
Jimmy Floyd
29-09-2019, 09:47 AM
You will beat us in the QF.
Disco
29-09-2019, 09:48 AM
Missing touch at the end is unforgivable, they deserved to lose just for that.
Lewis
29-09-2019, 09:51 AM
I like the gong. Hopefully it becomes a fixture in every game like that stupid French horn.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 09:56 AM
Toomua starting that game would be very interesting. Foley is the biggest binman 10 to have ever player Test Rugby.
Jimmy Floyd
29-09-2019, 10:10 AM
I like the gong. Hopefully it becomes a fixture in every game like that stupid French horn.
Should be a similarly lazy stereotype sound for the hosting country. Digeridoo in Aus, accordion in France, bit of fiddle in Ireland, and a man shouting 'Raa!' at Twickers.
Queenslander
29-09-2019, 12:36 PM
You will beat us in the QF.
The mocker gods dont care for this language.
SincereTheRebel
29-09-2019, 01:04 PM
It is much better than american hand egg.
Lewis
29-09-2019, 01:06 PM
Should be a similarly lazy stereotype sound for the hosting country. Digeridoo in Aus, accordion in France, bit of fiddle in Ireland, and a man shouting 'Raa!' at Twickers.
Mr Shake Hands Man and Lady One Question not being on media duties is a disgrace.
The Merse
29-09-2019, 04:13 PM
It's an elitist sport everywhere.
Fuck off with that, you numpty. In the Midlands and South West it's very much a broad spectrum sport, particularly in the Coventry/Leicester area. I played it at school there and further West in the Midlands, both state schools, one of them in Ofsted's bottom 100 at the time, whilst I lived in council estate mundanity.
Add to that, in Wales and the Scottish Borders and Ayrshire specifically, it is again a broad spectrum playing. South Wales in particular has very little 'elite' or even 'middle' class to speak of, yet it's still revered as the 'national' sport.
Yes, it's very much more the sport of the middle and upper classes in the South East, North (basically it's Durham and Yorkshire, right?) and the East coast of Scotland, but hey yeh, just go ahead and completely ignore the geographical nuance of the sport and make sweeping and inaccurate statements, eh?
Jimmy Floyd
29-09-2019, 04:18 PM
It has 10-20 square mile pockets of supremacy over football dotted around the country, largely in affluent areas, but other than that it's just a private school sport and plays second fiddle to football. I live in one of the pockets, so I know.
Boydy
29-09-2019, 04:20 PM
This United Ireland that people talk about (the amalgamation of Ireland and Northern Ireland) doesn’t exist so there should be an Ireland (Republic in the name like the soccer team if you like) rugby team and a Northern Ireland rugby team. Or the NI players should be playing with Scotland as the demographic there that plays and follows the sport would be far more aligned to Scotland than Ireland. Then we could have a compromise-free national side of our own.
Same goes for cricket, hockey, etc (the Loyalist sports). ‘Irelands Call’ can kiss my hole.
Loyalist? They're not playing rugby or cricket on the Shankill Road.
niko_cee
29-09-2019, 04:24 PM
Fuck off with that, you numpty. In the Midlands and South West it's very much a broad spectrum sport, particularly in the Coventry/Leicester area. I played it at school there and further West in the Midlands, both state schools, one of them in Ofsted's bottom 100 at the time, whilst I lived in council estate mundanity.
Add to that, in Wales and the Scottish Borders and Ayrshire specifically, it is again a broad spectrum playing. South Wales in particular has very little 'elite' or even 'middle' class to speak of, yet it's still revered as the 'national' sport.
Yes, it's very much more the sport of the middle and upper classes in the South East, North (basically it's Durham and Yorkshire, right?) and the East coast of Scotland, but hey yeh, just go ahead and completely ignore the geographical nuance of the sport and make sweeping and inaccurate statements, eh?
Of the 33 UK-educated players in the recent Scotland squad, 13 went to private school - just under 40%.
I'll probably give you the Welsh, but without looking into it too much I'd guess a large majority of professional players are hoovered into the private school system. Hence elitist. Maybe it's a chicken and egg (chasing) thing. That is certainly the case with cricket. As for all the wellington wearing hooray henrys who make it the national sport of the south west, well, have you ever been to Bath?
Disco
29-09-2019, 04:31 PM
For every Bath there are three or four Launcestons though, he's not wrong there.
Lewis
29-09-2019, 04:32 PM
In Welsh rugby 'elite' traditionally meant 'white'.
Giggles
29-09-2019, 04:36 PM
Loyalist? They're not playing rugby or cricket on the Shankill Road.
Loyalist/Republican. That’s what people really are so the two watered down terms are void.
The Merse
29-09-2019, 09:31 PM
Of the 33 UK-educated players in the recent Scotland squad, 13 went to private school - just under 40%.
I'll probably give you the Welsh, but without looking into it too much I'd guess a large majority of professional players are hoovered into the private school system. Hence elitist. Maybe it's a chicken and egg (chasing) thing. That is certainly the case with cricket. As for all the wellington wearing hooray henrys who make it the national sport of the south west, well, have you ever been to Bath?
So 40% of one of the squads equates to the entire sport being elitist? I’m absolutely up for saying it is overwhelmingly more popular amongst the more affluent than the less affluent, but that’s a very different statement than to say it is the reserve of the affluent, and I think that figure itself backs that up.
And no, in Wales the players aren’t hoovered into the Private schools, just normal comp ysgols...
Similarly, I’ll give you the Irish wholeheartedly, and admit that the English squads are still dominated with upper class cunts that don’t really represent the broader demographic of participants - but Leicester turning out shite for such a long time along with the folding of most of their Midlands rivals will do that... but again - that doesn’t equate to elitism across the sport as a whole. It’s a farmers sport in France and Italy, and an Everyman sport in any of the Southern Hemisphere teams.
Oh, and the SW also contains Bristol and Gloucester, rugby hotspots that aren’t affluent (albeit Gloucester also has a sizeable rugby going farming community, who are pretty affluent and feed into Glos via Hartpury College).
Lewis
29-09-2019, 09:44 PM
Rugby league was the stronger code in France before the war, but then the Vichy government banned it as socialist and gave all of its assets to union. The Catalan hardcore (average age: dead) still throw 'Vichyball' around for the lols.
niko_cee
01-10-2019, 09:06 PM
I meant give you the Welsh in that I accept they probably don't even have private schools there.
My limited understanding of Australian rugby union is that most of their players (maybe not the indigenous ones) come from the posho schools of Sydney and Brisbane in the mould of Dulwich College or wherever they go in England. Or league, natch.
Queenslander
09-10-2019, 10:37 AM
They will fade in the last 20 surely.
niko_cee
10-10-2019, 06:48 AM
lol if the Jocks get bounced out by a typhoon.
What a shambles.
Waffdon
10-10-2019, 09:52 AM
Lol, can they just straight up cancel a match?
thommo
10-10-2019, 10:01 AM
Yeah, both England v France and New Zealand v Italy have already been abandoned. Officially will go down as 0-0 draws.
Waffdon
10-10-2019, 10:04 AM
Hahahh, that’s amazing. The most Scottish thing ever.
Jimmy Floyd
10-10-2019, 02:44 PM
I don't know if's just the time zones, but this has felt like a drudge of a tournament to me. Crushingly predictable results apart from maybe two (rugby is a horribly predictable sport really) and now half the teams having their fourth game cancelled.
Disco
10-10-2019, 02:50 PM
Contrastingly I've been loving it, I can watch the early games in bed and then roll out and have breakfast watching the next one.
It's a walkover for the big sides until the knockouts but that's the same every time, the game has too many enormous gulfs in talent to support a tournament that would be competitive all the way through.
Yeah I've enjoyed it well enough. I've found the gaps between fixtures more annoying.
Jimmy Floyd
10-10-2019, 03:17 PM
The other thing that annoys me is the bonus point system acts against any upsets that there are being meaningful, e.g. Uruguay were still completely out of contention for 3rd place even after they won their first game against Fiji, and I think the same thing did for Japan last time round.
Disco
10-10-2019, 04:57 PM
Yeah I've enjoyed it well enough. I've found the gaps between fixtures more annoying.
The scheduling is illogical but entirely predictable because in rugby if you can screw over the smaller nations then you absolutely will.
Jimmy Floyd
10-10-2019, 04:59 PM
What are the main profitable TV markets for them? GB&I? There isn't even much worldwide diaspora like there is with cricket.
Disco
10-10-2019, 05:01 PM
Unless you count Australians it's here and France.
The other thing that annoys me is the bonus point system acts against any upsets that there are being meaningful, e.g. Uruguay were still completely out of contention for 3rd place even after they won their first game against Fiji, and I think the same thing did for Japan last time round.
I'm sure I already had my rant about it here since this World Cup started but bonus points are utter horseshit.
Queenslander
10-10-2019, 09:42 PM
Keeping the losing bonus point makes more sense than keeping the 4 try bonus point.
niko_cee
10-10-2019, 10:14 PM
If Hurricane Haggis leads to the cancellation of the Scotland game on Sunday they may as well just call the whole thing off. You can't have one of the only really meaningful games of the group stage decided in such an arbitrary way. Sergio Parisse is right to say that with the boot on the other foot and New Zealand needing to win then heaven and earth would have been moved to play that game. Italy, not so much. Thanks for coming. I have a terrible feeling this is going to recur in the proper world cup in Qatar when sand storms, A/C system failures or ISIS start fucking shit up.
Queenslander
10-10-2019, 10:16 PM
Not having a plan b for typhoon season is very small time. Surely an indoor stadium could have been booked even if it is empty.
You are right if NZ needed points they would have moved the game to Auckland.
niko_cee
10-10-2019, 10:19 PM
Eddie Jones and Steven Hansen on the wind-up, I assume Eddie has some sort of samurai honour thing going on with his previous paymasters, is quite funny, nonetheless.
Probably poor form to use the word 'wind' there.
Queenslander
10-10-2019, 10:21 PM
If Steve Hansen isnt coaching he is trolling.
The Merse
11-10-2019, 02:37 AM
Not having a plan b for typhoon season is very small time. Surely an indoor stadium could have been booked even if it is empty.
You are right if NZ needed points they would have moved the game to Auckland.
Apparently it’s the scale that is so rare this end of the season. But yeh, a few upset peeps over here. Fortunately my ticketed games are unaffected. Hoping to pick up one on Sunday in Yokohama, for Scotland vs Japan. I’m guessing the Fanzone might be called off even if the game isn’t.
Still, we’ve made our itinerary adjustments and we’re just waiting and seeing - if a fucking typhoon takes away the chance we have of progressing to the quarter final I have a ticket for I’ll be livid. Apparently the SRU are applying some serious pressure. There needs to be an answer for games like this.
Queenslander
11-10-2019, 03:05 AM
Plenty of my pub mob think it is pathetic.
If this were the Wobs I would be seething.
The Merse
11-10-2019, 03:16 AM
Tbh, for such a fantastically organised nation in my experience so far, the tournaments not been brilliantly managed in general. Fanzones have been turning people away well ahead of games, there’ve been issues for folk getting in and out of games, and now this. I think that rests with World Rugby as much as anything though - they have to hold the local organisers to their word in delivering the goods and having the right contingencies in place.
hfswjyr
11-10-2019, 08:42 AM
Not having a plan b for typhoon season is very small time. Surely an indoor stadium could have been booked even if it is empty.
I'm not sure you're understanding what a typhoon is... Japan evacuated 1 million people at this time last year.
Not exactly the time to be playing rugby under a roof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG5707dYG1I
Queenslander
11-10-2019, 08:50 AM
I'm not sure you're understanding what a typhoon is... Japan evacuated 1 million people at this time last year.
Not exactly the time to be playing rugby under a roof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG5707dYG1I
I am definitely guilty of being ignorant with typhoon season.
Im not used to Union World Cup games being cancelled so Im just going with my gut.
Jimmy Floyd
11-10-2019, 09:29 AM
I don't understand why they can't just play it on Tuesday or whenever.
Queenslander
11-10-2019, 11:02 AM
I get the penalty but the TMO could have given a yellow for half a dozen other high shots so far.
hfswjyr
11-10-2019, 11:29 AM
I have no problem with the rules being the way they are, but why did they only start reffing this way in the world cup? Surely World Rugby could have told the referees to start following these rules during the Rugby Championship and Six Nations?
Queenslander
11-10-2019, 11:35 AM
I have no problem with the rules being the way they are, but why did they only start reffing this way in the world cup? Surely World Rugby could have told the referees to start following these rules during the Rugby Championship and Six Nations?
It doesnt make any sense from a Southern Hemisphere point of view. And just now Haylett-Petty copped one of those sliding up high shots and nothing...
Edit: TMO has now called it.
Queenslander
11-10-2019, 11:48 AM
Koroibete :drool:
Queenslander
11-10-2019, 12:09 PM
This seat belt penalty needs a bit of a work shop.
Lewis
11-10-2019, 12:50 PM
Going out to the weather would be the lollest lol Scotland thing ever. Merse sat there in his long-sleeved t-shirts seething.
Waffdon
13-10-2019, 10:44 AM
Scotland to win by 6 points since the weather won’t be an excuse.
Waffdon
13-10-2019, 11:14 AM
Can you just pass the ball forward and get away with it 75% of the time in rugby?
Lewis
13-10-2019, 11:15 AM
If it leads to something and they don't want to have to call it yes.
Giggles
13-10-2019, 11:21 AM
Can a win for either in this knock Ireland out?
Waffdon
13-10-2019, 11:23 AM
Naw, Japan winning gives them New Zealand though.
Disco
13-10-2019, 11:25 AM
Can you just pass the ball forward and get away with it 75% of the time in rugby?
You can bump that up a bit if you put a black shirt on.
Waffdon
13-10-2019, 11:35 AM
Imagine losing to Japan at a sporting event. Tory bastards.
hfswjyr
13-10-2019, 11:58 AM
Scotland have been totally overawed by the occasion here.
Waffdon
13-10-2019, 11:59 AM
Well of course, it’s Scotland.
Giggles
13-10-2019, 12:05 PM
Scotland have been totally overawed by the occasion here.
Are they not just normally very bad at sport?
Spikey M
13-10-2019, 12:43 PM
:harold: Are they going to sue because the game has been able to go ahead now?
Jimmy Floyd
13-10-2019, 12:54 PM
They have been shite for fully 20 years now. Same in football.
Waffdon
13-10-2019, 12:56 PM
It’s the lifestyle. Everyone is happy to take party and be a part of the occasion. Comes from the fans into the teams.
Lewis
13-10-2019, 01:52 PM
Imagine losing to Japan at a sporting event. Tory bastards.
Really leaning into that *Japan* ('J'parn') like Alex Ferguson.
Queenslander
15-10-2019, 08:42 AM
I wonder who taddled on the Scots.
The Merse
16-10-2019, 12:30 AM
Scotland have been totally overawed by the occasion here.
Funadamentals of coaching aren’t there for me. We knew what we needed to do - good phase 1 defence, slow Japanese ball down and drop off the wings. The number of overlaps created off 2-3 passes and inside lines completely untouched was just hideous. It’s been getting worse and worse under Matt Taylor, and ultimately Townsend takes a big portion of that blame. Add to that the selections - Barclay, Taylor and Watson, with about 10 top class games between then in the past year due to injuries all shoehorned in on game 1 so that they’d have played their way into sharpness by the QF’s... Mental. Wilson, Harris over (wee big) Fagerson and Hutchinson, our big form players in the Pro 14 and Premiership last year. Ben Toolis over Richie fucking Gray... Greig still being the ‘heartbeat’ at 9 despite being the absolute antithesis of the way Toonie wants to play rugby.
Lack of options means he stays, but he’s on borrowed time.
A lot of players ended their careers this World Cup, as planned or prematurely... There’s positives but far too few.
All of that is really more about the campaign though - Japan deserved the win, they bossed it and have announced themselves as ‘T1’. It’ll be interesting to observe how that goes when the head coach doesn’t control the day to day of the entire central contracted squad (if and) when Sunwolves return and boys head abroad. I’m far more pissed off with the Ireland loss.
Been a grand World Cup to be at, but enjoying a week down south away from it’s fanfare and loud fans.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 07:16 AM
Pocock man of the match.
That boy's hairline is incredible.
Lewis
19-10-2019, 08:26 AM
Go on big lad.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 08:27 AM
Must be nice having a backline with multiple game plans.
Jimmy Floyd
19-10-2019, 08:28 AM
I only presume this Koroibete was born and grew up in Australia, as their cricket fans have assured me it's morally wrong to have non-pureborns in your side.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 08:29 AM
I only presume this Koroibete was born and grew up in Australia, as their cricket fans have assured me it's morally wrong to have non-pureborns in your side.
Rancid poach.
Disco
19-10-2019, 08:33 AM
Pocock man of the match.
You misspelled Curry mate.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 08:34 AM
You misspelled Curry mate.
And I also mockered my mate into shocker
Lewis
19-10-2019, 08:35 AM
Rancid poach.
Is he regarded as a successful one? I don't recall him being that highly regarded in league.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 08:38 AM
Is he regarded as a successful one? I don't recall him being that highly regarded in league.
Best pure finisher in a generation I reckon.
Lewis
19-10-2019, 08:45 AM
'Get me that Fijian winger.'
'.....'
'Not that one.'
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 08:47 AM
'Get me that Fijian winger.'
'.....'
'Not that one.'
:D
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 09:10 AM
Okay our turn with Eddie Jones.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 09:46 AM
C'Mon Ireland!
Would not be bothered if it's an Ireland-England Semi Final.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 10:09 AM
Im a lone Australian in among a sea of Kiwis atm.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 10:17 AM
The Irish made that special.
Potential shutout :drool:
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 10:42 AM
Fuck I made a mistake.
Shindig
19-10-2019, 11:00 AM
I thought New Zealand were supposed to be on the wane?
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 11:05 AM
I thought New Zealand were supposed to be on the wane?
Never on the wane they have more depth now than ever.
Disco
19-10-2019, 11:16 AM
Their first XV is less nailed on that it was four years ago but nobody outside of reaching feature writers really thought that, and even if it's true it's not enough for them to be turned over by this lot.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 11:19 AM
The depth at 10 12 13 is scary. The front row has probably the least amount of depth in the forwards but everywhere is 2/3 players deep.
I still think South Africa has the grunt to slow them down.
Disco
19-10-2019, 11:26 AM
I think we can beat them, but they win that game 8/10 times. There's no way they just run at our defence for 80 minutes like the Aussies did.
Queenslander
19-10-2019, 11:29 AM
Yeah probably play that counter attack they are famous for I reckon.
Obviously targeting their scrum and maul defence will be key to unlocking your cracking backline.
Giggles
19-10-2019, 12:15 PM
:) A bad day for the establishment.
niko_cee
20-10-2019, 07:53 AM
lol at Welsh Welsh Wales (currently) bottling their World Cup against a rank bad France team AGAIN.
It's almost as if these daft provincials only really turn up for certain games.
They need to sort it out as South Africa's route to the final being Japan and then France is :sick:.
Queenslander
20-10-2019, 08:05 AM
Enjoyable as a neutral.
niko_cee
20-10-2019, 08:08 AM
They've done well to get to halftime without conceding again, despite their own best efforts at the end there.
Disco
20-10-2019, 08:11 AM
Obviously I'm not about to start cheering for France but them winning would be the lollest result. Unfortunately I think we just watched the one half of rugby they're capable of producing on any given day.
Jimmy Floyd
20-10-2019, 08:19 AM
Naturally I have full confidence in the French to maintain a healthy half time lead.
Queenslander
20-10-2019, 08:26 AM
I like them bringing on a fancy field goal merchant.
Queenslander
20-10-2019, 08:28 AM
Has to be red.
niko_cee
20-10-2019, 08:29 AM
:lol:
Disco
20-10-2019, 08:31 AM
Well no-one could have predicted that.
Queenslander
20-10-2019, 08:52 AM
I am enjoying that cunt Gatland looking miserable.
Disco
20-10-2019, 08:57 AM
Would holding onto this be the most French thing or the least French thing for them to do? Such a weird team.
Jimmy Floyd
20-10-2019, 08:59 AM
Once they went down to 14 the pendulum swung back. They only chuck things away when they should win.
Queenslander
20-10-2019, 09:02 AM
I much prefer an England v Wales final over an All Blacks v Bokke.
niko_cee
20-10-2019, 09:06 AM
That strip fairly obviously went forward.
What a hilarious game.
Queenslander
20-10-2019, 09:09 AM
That strip fairly obviously went forward.
What a hilarious game.
Yeah I would be seething.
Giggles
20-10-2019, 09:10 AM
That’s the only team gone that I wanted to win it.
John Arne
20-10-2019, 09:46 AM
Saffas to win 49-3
Disco
20-10-2019, 10:32 AM
Is that not a red in the current climate?
niko_cee
20-10-2019, 10:53 AM
I'm more than willing to overlook the forward pass rule as far as Japan are concerned and I'm glad Wayne Barnes is of a similar mind.
niko_cee
20-10-2019, 11:15 AM
Barnsey's got this.
:cool:
Giggles
20-10-2019, 06:12 PM
This is wonderful.
1185980665642278912
Queenslander
21-10-2019, 12:54 AM
“(It) was one of the most selfish tactical gameplans I’ve seen in a long time because it wasn’t about the players,” Monye told BT Sport.
“But he totally ignored all that with sheer stubbornness. I didn’t like the tactics, it didn’t work out and I personally feel he let his team down because it didn’t give them the best opportunity to win. How many trophies have you won (with these tactics)?”
“It was irresponsible because the game plan wasn’t about the players, it was about him. It was about ‘this is what I believe Australian rugby to be and we’re going to stick to it come hell or high water, this is the way which is going to work’.
Funny how all of Cheika's mates in the media dont share this very accurate opinion.
Queenslander
21-10-2019, 11:31 PM
My boyhood Rugby Club Sunnybank are using WeChat to reach out to the Chinese community. Signed up 100 boys already for summer skills camps and they expect the number to reach 500.
https://www.sunnybankrugby.com.au/junior-rugby
hfswjyr
22-10-2019, 07:44 AM
"All Asian Boys and Girls Welcome". Well, that's not very inclusive, is it...
Queenslander
22-10-2019, 08:05 AM
"All Asian Boys and Girls Welcome". Well, that's not very inclusive, is it...
:D
That is a bit how's your father but they do have Chinese and Taiwanese development officers that go to local primary schools.
Queenslander
22-10-2019, 10:51 AM
I have never heard such misogany that our ARU CEO Raelene Castle is copping:(. The amount of wife beaters poking the heads up on social media and on talk back radio is very scary.
Lewis
22-10-2019, 01:44 PM
What use could the Chinese possibly have on a rugby pitch?
Offshore Toon
22-10-2019, 04:01 PM
What use could the Chinese possibly have on a rugby pitch?
The parents must have money.
Jimmy Floyd
22-10-2019, 06:45 PM
Junior club sport is a numbers game. Take the cash off 100 sets of parents and that funds you being able to make 3 of the 10 good ones brilliant.
Lewis
22-10-2019, 07:26 PM
That's where league's going wrong chasing them Polynesian welfare dollars. If them BBC documentaries about China are anything to go by, which they probably aren't, Australia will probably be split between pro and anti-China like we are with remain and leave before long. They've got their clammy little fingers in all sorts of stir fries.
Queenslander
22-10-2019, 09:59 PM
What use could the Chinese possibly have on a rugby pitch?
I would imagine if they start weights as early as everyone else it would be any different.
Queenslander
22-10-2019, 10:03 PM
That's where league's going wrong chasing them Polynesian welfare dollars. If them BBC documentaries about China are anything to go by, which they probably aren't, Australia will probably be split between pro and anti-China like we are with remain and leave before long. They've got their clammy little fingers in all sorts of stir fries.
It is funny that the very government the boomers voted in are the ones approving the sale of the massive cattle stations to the Chinese. They complain about baby formula being sold while buying up Apple products and other items off them for decsdes.
Queenslander
22-10-2019, 10:05 PM
Junior club sport is a numbers game. Take the cash off 100 sets of parents and that funds you being able to make 3 of the 10 good ones brilliant.
I think they are having to compete for the local Polynesian kids with Logan Rugby Union who are trying to make the step up to Sunnybanks level.
https://www.loganrugby.com.au/
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 05:54 AM
Im surrounding myself with Kiwis again for this game, while wearing a 20 year old English Rugby jersey that I borrowed.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 08:08 AM
I am rock hard. I kept telling my.mates that an ambush was coming their way.
The tempo we started at was amazing but we're going to regret not getting at least another three out of that early period camping around their posts, I fear.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 08:26 AM
Yeah your next entry into their 22 has to result in 3 at least.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 08:31 AM
Your kickin game is something I can only dreamof seeing from an Aussie side.
Fuck's sake. :( Still going well though.
Your kickin game is something I can only dreamof seeing from an Aussie side.
It has been quite considered so far which I like, not just the sort of kicking designed solely to get them out of your own 22 for a stay of execution.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 08:38 AM
Kicking with purpose. :drool:
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 08:40 AM
Blokes just march down the field to drop goal range ffs.
Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 08:44 AM
I can't remember seeing us play as well as this in such a big game, pretty much ever. 2003 I seem to remember was pretty functional.
Disco
26-10-2019, 08:50 AM
Great first half but I think we may regret not being 5 or 6 points further on.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 08:51 AM
This is easily the best half of rugby I have seen in a generation.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 08:52 AM
:drool:
The extra few points helps but it feels mad that it could just as eaily have been 14- or 17-0.
Need to reset and start again the same way but we've been superb so far. They've had absolutely no change out of Watson when they've tried to get going down that flank.
Lewis
26-10-2019, 09:13 AM
Should have taken the three.
Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 09:15 AM
The TMO couldn't wait to disallow either of those tries.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:17 AM
Should have taken the three.
Yeah have to keep ticking the scoreboard over at this stage.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:20 AM
I have seen plenty of Sam Cane and he is not good enough against Curry and Underhill
After all this hard work and brilliant play you give up that shit.
Lewis
26-10-2019, 09:30 AM
What?
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:31 AM
Go fuck yourself you taddling kiwis.
Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 09:31 AM
Jesus that was a bit Wayne Hatswell.
Disco
26-10-2019, 09:31 AM
Here we go.
What a tackle from Underhill.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:36 AM
What a tackle from Underhill.
Best 7 in the world? I think so.
I don't watch enough other teams to compare but he's a decent hand, yeah.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:38 AM
Not many 7s do this to the All Blacks.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:42 AM
Miles forward.
Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 09:42 AM
Nige has decided he can't be arsed with the forward pass law today I think.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:43 AM
Whitelock has form.
Disco
26-10-2019, 09:47 AM
Nige has decided he can't be arsed with the forward pass law today I think.
They needed four camera angles to spot the one on our try but miss the most blatant one right in the middle of the pitch.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:48 AM
:drool:
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:49 AM
Anyone see Sam Cane do anything? Me neither...
Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 09:55 AM
Itoje, Underhill and Ford all incredible today, among others. Can't separate them for MOTM.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:56 AM
:lol:
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:57 AM
Itoje, Underhill and Ford all incredible today, among others. Can't separate them for MOTM.
Probably Itoje for his dominant first 30 minutes.
Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 09:57 AM
They needed four camera angles to spot the one on our try but miss the most blatant one right in the middle of the pitch.
There's another one, they might as well have Tom Brady out there.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 09:58 AM
Another forward ffs
Lewis
26-10-2019, 10:00 AM
Oh God imagine losing to Wales in the final. We would never live it down.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 10:01 AM
Thank you England.
:lol:
Incredible performance for 80. Never really looked in doubt.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 10:01 AM
Oh God imagine losing to Wales in the final. We would never live it down.
I can see Wales being too smart for the Bokke.
Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 10:02 AM
Oh God imagine losing to Wales in the final. We would never live it down.
Yep we desperately need a boks win tomorrow. Come on you dirty bastards.
Disco
26-10-2019, 10:02 AM
There's another one, they might as well have Tom Brady out there.
Inches from the touch judge too, they really tried their best today.
Huge performance though, absolutely smothered them at every opportunity.
Disco
26-10-2019, 10:04 AM
Oh God imagine losing to Wales in the final. We would never live it down.
You'd have to invent a new sport.
Absolutely incredible performance. There are about five players you could give MOTM to on merit.
Thank you England.
:lol:
How close to punching you are the Kiwis you're with? :p
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 10:09 AM
Absolutely incredible performance. There are about five players you could give MOTM to on merit.
How close to punching you are the Kiwis you're with? :P
I left them 35 minutes ago. Like a coward I will be sending them texts for the rest of the night though.
hfswjyr
26-10-2019, 11:07 AM
I don't remember seeing us being put under that much pressure for the full 80 before. Well deserved.
Sick of losing to England now really.
Queenslander
26-10-2019, 11:32 AM
I don't remember seeing us being put under that much pressure for the full 80 before. Well deserved.
Sick of losing to England now really.
You have played too many games against our rubbish team.
Byron
26-10-2019, 11:33 AM
Spare a thought for Jimmy Neesham's twitter account.
Disco
26-10-2019, 11:48 AM
You have played too many games against our rubbish team.
You might as well hang onto that England shirt, make the switch permanent.
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