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Queenslander
26-10-2019, 11:51 AM
You might as well hang onto that England shirt, make the switch permanent.

Against South Africa and New Zealand sure. If Wales manage to beat you this will go down as the best Rugby World cup of all time!

Wales are on a 4 game winning streak against the Springbok.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rugby_union_matches_between_South_Afric a_and_Wales

Jimmy Floyd
26-10-2019, 11:58 AM
Wales winning any sport's World Cup would essentially delegitimise the sport in question. There's a reason we don't let them have their own team in cricket.

Queenslander
26-10-2019, 12:05 PM
If you absorb Wales into English Rugby we get to officially keep every child born in PNG and Fiji.

Spikey M
26-10-2019, 12:27 PM
Deal, but only if Bottom Ireland have to take Top Ireland and Scotland.

Queenslander
26-10-2019, 12:31 PM
:D

This is easy. What other borders can we fix?

Disco
26-10-2019, 12:34 PM
If you're going to do it you'd have to merge Wales with the Scotch, the bitterness would be off the scale but it's the only way it would work.

Lewis
26-10-2019, 01:05 PM
Would any Jocks get a game? The bitterness might become internalised if not, and then what's the point of them playing?

Disco
26-10-2019, 01:10 PM
Hogg at least.

Ian
26-10-2019, 01:46 PM
Spare a thought for Jimmy Neesham's twitter account.

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Disco
27-10-2019, 10:10 AM
How do we see the rest of this going? Saffers look to have the line speed and kicking game to frustrate Wales but if they misjudge it the Welsh could cause them real problems in the open.

Queenslander
27-10-2019, 10:20 AM
Springboks are combination of stupidity and cowardice. Wales can win this if they can hold their defence together.

Queenslander
27-10-2019, 10:25 AM
Should have kept my bloody mouth shut.

Queenslander
27-10-2019, 10:34 AM
You beauty!

Queenslander
27-10-2019, 10:48 AM
Not a chance that this Boks team beats England.

Ian
27-10-2019, 10:56 AM
Putting in one of our best ever performances to beat the All Blacks only to lose the final would be a very English sporting thing to do.

Queenslander
27-10-2019, 10:58 AM
Not many brain cells present in that Bokke backline.

Spikey M
27-10-2019, 11:04 AM
Do Sith Afreeka do a stupid dance before the game that we can lol smugly at?

Disco
27-10-2019, 11:05 AM
We'll probably try actually tackling their 12 for a start.

Queenslander
27-10-2019, 11:06 AM
Underhill and Curry should do a better job shutting down 9-10-12

Lewis
27-10-2019, 11:20 AM
We'd better have our open top victory parade booked round the entire British Isles.

Byron
27-10-2019, 12:03 PM
Including top and bottom Ireland?

Giggles
27-10-2019, 12:08 PM
Don’t make us break out the big sticks and pitchforks again. You know what happened the last time.

Spikey M
27-10-2019, 12:16 PM
The fields went untended and you all starved to death?

Giggles
27-10-2019, 12:19 PM
The fields went untended and you all starved to death?

No we ran you out a good while after the genocide attempt. Probably was a good trigger for what was to come though.

Kikó
27-10-2019, 12:29 PM
Christ, bit deep this for a rugby thread.

Lewis
28-10-2019, 12:57 PM
Eddie Jones trolling the SEETHING Welsh. :cool:

Ian
28-10-2019, 01:17 PM
Yes, I enjoyed that.

My dad mentioned England once having played the Netherlands and humped them to the tune of 110 points. having read a bit about that and ended up looking at some other stuff and have come to the conclusion that Jonny May is pretty underrated. Five tries away from being (distant) second on our try scorers list behind Rory Underwood and when I looked at Guscott who's above him Guscott piled on over half of his tries on some properly shit teams like the Dutch, Romania, USA, etc. And yet no waxing lyrical about May, even though this excellent picture of him exists:

http://sp.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/23100/23141.1.jpg

I suppose we don't really revere that sort of try scorer, much preferring reliable kickers and big lads steamrollering over the line as part of crushing forward play.

Queenslander
28-10-2019, 01:18 PM
Eddie Jones trolling the SEETHING Welsh. :cool:

I could not have more bogan hatred for Warren Gatland.

Jimmy Floyd
28-10-2019, 01:46 PM
Try scoring wings were the big stars in the amateur era. Campese, Evans, Lomu, Underwood were the big names when I first encountered rugby. Full backs too, Blanco and Gavin Hastings etc. Now it seems to be about rummaging back rowers and chunky 12s.

Disco
28-10-2019, 01:46 PM
Didn't May start a bit earlier than most? I'm sure he was one of Lancasters new bods at the last world cup.

bruhnaldo
28-10-2019, 01:47 PM
Came in to see how ya'lls Rugby thing was going and they're talking about genocide, lawd have mercy.

Disco
28-10-2019, 01:51 PM
Came in to see how ya'lls Rugby thing was going and they're talking about genocide, lawd have mercy.

But enough about Scotland.

Lewis
28-10-2019, 02:01 PM
The Irish had an even bigger famine a century before but they've forgotten it because they can't blame us.

Giggles
28-10-2019, 03:48 PM
The Irish had an even bigger famine a century before but they've forgotten it because they can't blame us.

Something a century before was still you cunts. And something a century before, and another, etc...

Disco
28-10-2019, 06:10 PM
The Georgians of course famous for controlling the weather.

In more fun news, the final is also for the Raeburn Shield (rugger buggers lineal championship) which I had never heard of until today, mainly because it doesn't really exist. Its history is predictably tedious but it does throw up Romania beating the Scotch in 1984.

Giggles
29-10-2019, 07:29 PM
That's fucking bullshit. Far too much respect shown to that glorified flashmob.


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Shindig
29-10-2019, 07:37 PM
Wait? Is that a rule specifically for the haka? Fuck off. I mean that. Fuck right off.

Disco
29-10-2019, 07:45 PM
You aren't supposed to cross the half way line, that's all it is. I think the AB's have even paid these for other teams before.

Shindig
29-10-2019, 07:55 PM
That's much more reasonable.

bruhnaldo
29-10-2019, 07:57 PM
Worth every penny. Or pence. Whatever it is.

Ian
29-10-2019, 09:37 PM
Don't they welcome this shit anyway? They know fine we'll they're doing it to try and put the wind up people and nobody gives a shit and it gets stared down. Or smirked at in Farrell's case.

bruhnaldo
29-10-2019, 09:42 PM
I remember when the internet first started getting really intricate and the Haka was like this cool novelty thing but I tell you what man nowadays I wish they'd just fuck off and get on with it.

Mellberg
29-10-2019, 11:56 PM
You can't cross the halfway line because the French took the piss in 2007. Which was brilliant.

They won that against the odds too :sherlock:

John Arne
30-10-2019, 05:04 AM
Teams should just do what Campese did. Ignore it completely and continue to warm and throw the ball about.

Ian
30-10-2019, 07:21 AM
I've pondered that myself before, that maybe utter disinterest is the way forward.

hfswjyr
30-10-2019, 07:44 AM
England did it. New Zealand don't mind it.

World Rugby conclusion is to hand out a fine.

bruhnaldo
30-10-2019, 04:53 PM
Do they do it during the scheduled warm up time or is there like a whole extra 2-3 minutes tacked onto that for the Presentation of The Haka™

Disco
30-10-2019, 05:37 PM
They do it after the anthems so I guess it extends the pre-kickoff routine by a minute or two.

Spikey M
30-10-2019, 06:10 PM
Probably the best way to deal with the Haka would be to just crack on with match preparations and ignore them. The seethe would be beautiful.

Giggles
30-10-2019, 06:13 PM
Probably the best way to deal with the Haka would be to just crack on with match preparations and ignore them. The seethe would be beautiful.

Huddle up.

Disco
30-10-2019, 06:13 PM
I really don't think they care, everything has been tried at this point to no great effect.

Spikey M
30-10-2019, 06:15 PM
It's more the media seethe and the probable screams of racism I'm looking for.

Ian
30-10-2019, 06:42 PM
I really don't think they care, everything has been tried at this point to no great effect.

This, really.

Or do the Too Cool dance as a 15 in response.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPFqdWoJMpQ

Disco
30-10-2019, 06:48 PM
Our lot could do a Morris dance or something, Nowell is from Cornwall he's probably got his bells with him.

Lewis
30-10-2019, 07:11 PM
lolling at an indigenous ritual already seems like the most fitting option.

Shindig
30-10-2019, 07:15 PM
Hit them with a wayward punt. Then ask for the ball back.

bruhnaldo
30-10-2019, 07:34 PM
They do it after the anthems so I guess it extends the pre-kickoff routine by a minute or two.

I'm surprised no one has been pedantic(word choice?) enough to start complaining that this throws off their normal pregame ritual and should be seen as an unfair competitive advantage

Giggles
30-10-2019, 07:38 PM
I'm surprised no one has been pedantic(word choice?) enough to start complaining that this throws off their normal pregame ritual and should be seen as an unfair competitive advantage

Far better to just ignore them/lol at them.

bruhnaldo
30-10-2019, 07:40 PM
I don't disagree personally but maybe there's something to be said about the gamesmanship and (trying to) make them do it before their warmups/anthems idk.

I did, however, love England's response to it and thought that was perf.

Queenslander
31-10-2019, 11:47 PM
I know plenty of Kiwis and they loved not only the English V but the French arrow as a response to the Haka. The only people who care are in the media and at the IRB.

Jimmy Floyd
01-11-2019, 07:58 AM
It's almost as if neither a silly dance, nor the actions of those watching it, actually have any effect of the game of rugby union that follows.

Giggles
01-11-2019, 08:20 AM
It's almost as if neither a silly dance, nor the actions of those watching it, actually have any effect of the game of rugby union that follows.

Then there’s no need for it.

Disco
01-11-2019, 08:25 AM
If we only did things we needed to we wouldn't be there in the first place.

Ian
01-11-2019, 08:51 AM
It's almost as if neither a silly dance, nor the actions of those watching it, actually have any effect of the game of rugby union that follows.

There was possibly a sweet spot at some point of when they started doing it more seriously (compared to some of those lulzy efforts you see old clips of) and the mentality of the uber-pro coming in where it got the Kiwis a bit more fired up for the start of the game but now they're breeding All Blacks egg chasing robots in labs or whatever it's probably just a habit.

Lewis
01-11-2019, 09:40 PM
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Giggles
01-11-2019, 09:48 PM
What did Wales do for the Chatham dance?

Lewis
01-11-2019, 09:53 PM
Shat themselves.

Giggles
01-11-2019, 09:54 PM
As a nation that’s standard. Might not have been anything to do with New Zealand.

Jimmy Floyd
01-11-2019, 10:24 PM
The best part of that tweet is 'BT Murrayfield'.

Ian
01-11-2019, 11:26 PM
The enormous lie is good too, though.

Lewis
01-11-2019, 11:41 PM
Nothing from the rest of the fringe yet. Hopefully they get the tweets in first thing.

Ian
02-11-2019, 08:37 AM
Mon then.

Giggles
02-11-2019, 08:39 AM
Is today the final?

Baz
02-11-2019, 08:48 AM
I love how many people are already on the ale. :D

Ian
02-11-2019, 08:52 AM
Is today the final?
Yarp.

Waffdon
02-11-2019, 09:00 AM
Mon Bryan Habana

Lewis
02-11-2019, 09:10 AM
Alright then get him off.

Waffdon
02-11-2019, 09:40 AM
England are nervous as fuck but they’ll win it in the second half.

Jimmy Floyd
02-11-2019, 09:54 AM
Nigel Owens a costly injury for us.

Ian
02-11-2019, 09:58 AM
This has been some sloppy shit. Not enjoying this at all.

Spikey M
02-11-2019, 10:01 AM
Awful performance. Half of them have forgotten how to catch.

Disco
02-11-2019, 10:17 AM
I think we've fucked this.

Spikey M
02-11-2019, 10:19 AM
Pavel Nedved is starting to piss me off.

Jimmy Floyd
02-11-2019, 10:20 AM
Referee fucked it in that 25 phase thing, only giving us 2 penalties instead of the 6 or so we should have had.

Spikey M
02-11-2019, 10:37 AM
Yep. Fucked it.

Pleb
02-11-2019, 10:38 AM
Is there a World Cup in another sport we haven't won yet? :baz:

Lewis
02-11-2019, 10:39 AM
That was a forward pass.

Spikey M
02-11-2019, 10:39 AM
We have won it. :face:

Waffdon
02-11-2019, 10:40 AM
Lol

Ian
02-11-2019, 10:45 AM
That was a forward pass.

I thought this but nobody on the TV seemed to give a shit

Yevrah
02-11-2019, 10:48 AM
England should never be clear favourites for anything.

Jimmy Floyd
02-11-2019, 10:48 AM
Can the commentator please shut the fuck up about Nelson Mandela.

Manc
02-11-2019, 10:50 AM
This bringing the country together narrative can fuck right off.

Ian
02-11-2019, 10:52 AM
The contrast between this and last week. Saffers have been better but we've given up so much to them

Lewis
02-11-2019, 10:54 AM
We've been out-tacticked as Big Sam would say.

Jimmy Floyd
02-11-2019, 10:55 AM
The All Blacks made it so easy for us. This lot have done the opposite though we didn't help ourselves by trying to be the Barbarians in the first 40.

Lewis
02-11-2019, 10:56 AM
Prince Harry using all them emissions for that. He must be livid.

Manc
02-11-2019, 10:56 AM
Who is this nonce on commentary?

ItalAussie
02-11-2019, 10:58 AM
I wasn't holding out much hope for the South Africans before the match, but to be fair they did win the Rugby Championship this year. I guess with all the fuss over how good the other semifinal was, we all kind of forgot that the South Africans are actually pretty good too.

Also, I read a stat somewhere that mentioned that when the All-Blacks get knocked out, the team that beats them wins the competition less often than they lose. Kind of interesting.

Disco
02-11-2019, 11:00 AM
The media did, anyone with two brain cells could have seen they were very capable of winning.

Jimmy Floyd
02-11-2019, 01:17 PM
I thought they would bore us to death 15-9 again. It was looking like I was going to be right until they ran in three easy tries.

Lewis
02-11-2019, 02:15 PM
The unity NARRATIVE seems to be missing the fact that they're bordering on being a failed state these days.

Spikey M
02-11-2019, 02:19 PM
Yeah but the whites are living in poverty too. #Unity

Disco
02-11-2019, 02:55 PM
Perhaps we should claim our failure to turn up as some kind of service to African race relations. It would be one of our better ones at least.

Queenslander
03-11-2019, 04:36 AM
I definitely got carried away with my prediction...

Waffdon
03-11-2019, 09:28 AM
Lol