August Football: We back bois?

[mugbull]

Poch coming out with some seriously scary comments in the presser. Says the squad is the most unsettled it's been since he moved to spurs and that the next week will be very decisive as to the fortunes of the team. Oof

[Giggles]

I see Griezmann playing for the last bastions of all that is good. How did all that turn out or is it still not resolved?

[Giggles]

Poch coming out with some seriously scary comments in the presser. Says the squad is the most unsettled it's been since he moved to spurs and that the next week will be very decisive as to the fortunes of the team. Oof

He should have whored himself out more and got away while the going was good.

[randomlegend]

I see Griezmann playing for the last bastions of all that is good. How did all that turn out or is it still not resolved?

Seems to have just quietly disappeared.

[Giggles]

As it tends to do.

[John Arne]

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[SincereTheRebel]

https://i.ibb.co/MZfCkrM/Screenshot-20190826-163718.jpg (https://ibb.co/Gn95Qyc)

[mo]

Bolton’s takeover has collapsed, so they have the same Tuesday 5pm deadline as Bury (who are apparently getting fans to clean the stadium and selling tickets for their weekend fixture) but I just don’t think it’s conceivable that a deal to buy a football club can be completed (or ‘99%’ completed) in that time. Looking bleak for both clubs.

[Lewis]

People seem to be blaming the current owner of Bolton, and I'm sure he hasn't helped, but didn't he only come in when they were last on the verge of going bust when they couldn't pay their players? The debt they had racked up with that mug Eddie Davies was astonishing for a club of their size (I doubt banks would have ever bailed them out to the extent that he had), so they've probably been run badly since their brief run of Premiership form.

Also who is that in the picture?

[Gray Fox]

Wesley? He's been at the pies.

[SincereTheRebel]

Wesley? He's been at the pies.

Two weeks retired and eating nice.

[Gray Fox]

That United medical is off then.

[Lewis]

He would still be their best number ten.

[Reg]

That is quite some effort in two weeks.

[Shindig]

I wonder what their calorie intake is when they're match fit and training daily?

[niko_cee]

Surely with two teams going to the wall in League 1 this is the perfect opportunity for the old firm to strike and implant themselves into the middle tiers of English football.

[Shindig]

And Sunderland still won't go up. :D

[mugbull]

I wonder what their calorie intake is when they're match fit and training daily?

I would guess not as much as you think. Maybe 4000. On match day maybe 4500. Definitely not Michael Phelps tier

[Smjffy]

Surely with two teams going to the wall in League 1 this is the perfect opportunity for the old firm to strike and implant themselves into the middle tiers of English football.

If it's not all GB teams then it should be none. It wouldn't take long for the novelty factor of the Old Firm to wear off either.

[SincereTheRebel]

Swansea and Cardiff are in the league. They are part of the GB?

[Gray Fox]

RIP Bury by the sounds of it. The last minute buyer has now pulled out.

[mo]

RIP Bury by the sounds of it. The last minute buyer has now pulled out.

I mean it was looking unlikely anyway but you’re right, this has to be it. Harsh on supporters (especially those who volunteered to clean up Gigg Lane to get it match ready) but hopefully there will be enough who give a crap to start a Phoenix club.

[Giggles]

Not that I think they should, but I can't understand why a big club with questionable ownership (who doesn't?) wouldn't stump up to bask in the publicity.

[phonics]

Because it’s literally against the rules.

[Giggles]

They can all work around FFP and all manner of things. If that’s the excuse then they just don’t want to.

[phonics]

FFP avoidance is literally the same thing as tax avoidance, it's just creative accounting. Shoving brown paper bags to clubs that are literally being monitored by independent auditors are not.

[Disco]

Badly run businesses close all the time, I'm amazed we don't get ten a year given how useless most clubs are.

[John Arne]

Because it’s literally against the rules.

Which rule? I'm aware of the owners not being able to have stakes in 2 clubs, but which rule prohibits a club donating funds to another club?

[phonics]

I'm not reading a several hundred page PDF to quote it. Just going off what I've read.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, that kind of thing isn't going to be allowed. It's a one way street to little suitcase corruption at the end of every season.

[SincereTheRebel]

Let me buy one of your shit regen youth players for £12m. He only has a PA of 77 but im here to help.

[mo]

EFL statement at 7, apparently. Also appears there is more than one new bidder for Bury, including Jill Neville. Really don’t think this is going to come off though - deal will have to be done this week in order for Bury to play Saturday (league said no more postponements) and there’s already been one deadline extension.

[Giggles]

The Rumbelows cup should see a few of our lot get a run out at last.

[niko_cee]

Connolly starting his first game for Brighton, on that front.

[Giggles]

Molumby will hopefully appear for Millwall too, and Obafemi for Southampton.

I think Idah is starting for Norwich.

[SincereTheRebel]

One of those players is Strong Nose?

[Giggles]

One of those players is Strong Nose?

Obafemi.

[niko_cee]

Raining goals for the Irish contingent.

[Giggles]

Is there anywhere that gives lineups and goals? LiveScore hasn't a thing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Soccerway.

[Giggles]

I found flashscores too which has an app but is a bit too centred around betting.

Enda Stevens being substituted in the 24th minute could be a serious shitter.

[Andy]

Obafemi.

Scored and now off injured. Pulled up running through.

[Giggles]

Scored and now off injured. Pulled up running through.

That'll be a month at least so.

[Boydy]

Just watching Match of the Day now and fair play to the United fans being raging on Saturday. Fucking awful refereeing. They should've had two more penalties and a freekick for that supposed simulation by Dan James. His goal was very nice.

[Lewis]

That's it lads. Concern trolling off of Liverpool. Season's done.

[mo]

Bury expelled from the League.

[Raoul Duke]

That's it lads. Concern trolling off of Liverpool. Season's done.

Getting rid of Sanchez and Lukaku in the same window though. Respect, respect, respect.

[Gray Fox]

Shitty situation all round. No word on Bolton yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49451896

[Lewis]

Getting rid of Sanchez and Lukaku in the same window though. Respect, respect, respect.

And two months of Ashley Young starting every week. :drool:

[bruhnaldo]

Is there anywhere that gives lineups and goals? LiveScore hasn't a thing.

Get FotMob app it's glorious.

[Shindig]

Bolton have 14 days. I don't get that. What difference will a further 2 weeks make when the same situation's been going on for months? I guess Bolton's games have actually been going ahead.

[Spikey M]

Bury and Bolton should do a merger. How many shit teams does the outskirts of Manchester need? They could be called Burton (fuck Burton Albion we force them to merge with Derby).

No room for all this grass roots shit in the BT Sports Era.

Southend having to merge with West Ham though :(

[Jimmy Floyd]

Football lives and dies on money-grabbing immorality, if people really think clubs are community clubs then why do they burn all their money paying passers-by to play football for the first team.

Clubs fall into the hands of people like Steve Dale et al because no sensible businessman would ever, ever buy a football club. They are just money-burning pits.

[Shindig]

A lad in the office asked why governments are so ready to bail out banks but not football clubs. I felt too dumbfounded to respond.

[Yevrah]

As most times when these sort of things come around I have little sympathy. You know your gate receipts, therefore you know what you have to play with. Don’t fill your squad with overpaid (presumably shit in these cases) and you won’t go under.

[phonics]

At the end of the day the system is still the issue. He was allowed to buy a club Known to be in trouble for a pound while having to offer no proof that he had money that would actually solve those issues.

He didn’t overspend on players he just didn’t do anything.

[Ian]

Whoever it was (Wilson, maybe) on Football Weekly the other day was saying that the EFL's checks for Dale when he bought Bury were essentially, "You got money then, yeah?" "Well I've got a line of credit." "Bangin', job done."

If that's the case then maybe they should bail the club out for letting them be bought by a disinterested charlatan.

[bruhnaldo]

Responded to a facebook post about it that basically said "Why doesn't United/City bail them out?!" with "Well beyond it being illegal I mean imagine if that became the norm, almost every lower league club would go tits up trying to cheat the system and get up the pyramid."

To which he responded "Yea but Bayern bailed out Dortmund once."

Aye, a club that has claimed to have the highest attendance average in world football vs. the 13th most important football club in the greater Manchester county area with a capacity of approx 11,000.

Mind you I don't know the details of the Bayern Dortmund thing very much but it just seemed like such an odd response I had no idea how to even respond.

[Dark Soldier]

It was all down to Day, the chairman before Dale. His 'businesses' basically lived on the spend big now, hope it pays off later kinda bulllshit that drives most things into the ground. He leveraged multiple loans against the club (with particular, fairly large sums of it going to a dodgy as fuck account for 'leveraging fees') to help his other business, then used whatever the fuck was left over to go batshit on wages. Leon fucking Clarke on about 9 grand a week in League Two, along with renting City's old training ground for no apparent reason. Then, obviously, Bury get about 7-10k max per match, unless its a rival. £20-25 a ticket. Running costs, wages, maintenance etc means they were fucked from the second he appeared.

His businesses collapsed, surprisingly, and he fucked off leaving the club with a fair few million of debt. Dale came in, lolled to fuck at the state of it, appointed Ryan Lowe (club legend) as manager who turned out to be actually fucking good at lower league management and got them promoted. Sold a couple of youngsters for decent sums to PL clubs, sold off Clarke to Sunderland for about 500k, and the debt just hoovered it all up. Dale himself is a shit tier businessman, 42 of his 51 companies have been lioquidated. He had fuck all in cash, and it crashed and burned.

The EFL has to be held accountable for their process of determining owners, which is basically 'do you have money matey?' - 'aye sure defo pal' - 'its yours lol', but the club has been fucked ever since Day took over. It was inevitable.

[randomlegend]

I read that the "42 of his 51 companies have been liquidated" stat is a bit misleading since his whole thing is buying companies on their last legs and trying to turn them round, and it's expected you'd only be successful every now and then.

I don't know if that's true, obviously

[niko_cee]

Most companies are liquidated for thoroughly normal/mundane reasons - ie they are short-term vehicles for achieving some purpose or other.

[Baz]

Hooray for Bolton.

[Lewis]

I'm not sure how you would even craft a 'fit and proper person' test that didn't just limit takeovers to people with an actual pile of cash waiting. And they tend to be people who aren't fit and proper at all beyond their ability to pay.

[Giggles]

Would have been fun to see Bolton go too but one out of two isn't bad.

[Spikey M]

Bury and Bolton should do a merger. How many shit teams does the outskirts of Manchester need? They could be called Burton (fuck Burton Albion we force them to merge with Derby).

No room for all this grass roots shit in the BT Sports Era.

Southend having to merge with West Ham though :(

The idiots have missed a trick. I'd have paid £2 for them.

[mo]

Would have been fun to see Bolton go too but one out of two isn't bad.

Well you might still get your wish - they're hardly out of the woods. Could just be prolonging the inevitable.

[Gray Fox]

Champions League draw shaping up nicely.

Madrid v PSG
Spurs v Bayern
Barca v Dortmund.

[John Arne]

Barca, Dortmund and Inter :drool:

[John Arne]

There are so many preconditions in this draw. Country clash protection, day of the week protection, blue/red protection (side of the draw), conflict protection... Probably more.

[Gray Fox]

Some of these groups are great on paper.

[phonics]

Porto being out has meant that Man City slot into the boring group that no one cares about.

[Gray Fox]

Are both Red Bull teams allowed in one group?

[John Arne]

I see both RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg are in the draw. Wasn't there a UEFA rule about clubs with the same owners not being allowed to compete in the same competition?

[Gray Fox]

They could have gone into the same group. I don't think that should really be allowed.

[John Arne]

Barca, Dortmund and Inter :drool:

The Slavia Prague representatives just laugh and role their eyes as they are drawn as the final team in the group :)

[John Arne]

1. Messi
2. Van Dijk
3. Ronaldo

According to the leaks.

[Gray Fox]

Considering the possibilities there were before the draw, that's gone quite well for all English teams I think.

Group A: PSG, Real Madrid, Brugge, Galatasaray

Group B: Bayern, Tottenham, Olympiakos, Red Star Belgrade

Group C: Man City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zagreb, Atalanta

Group D: Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Lokomotiv

Group E: Liverpool, Napoli, Salzburg, Genk

Group F: Barcelona, Dortmund, Inter Milan, Slavia Prague

Group G: Zenit, Benfica, Lyon, Leipzig

Group H: Chelsea, Ajax, Valencia, Lille

[Giggles]

The teams seriously need to be cut back in that.

[Mellberg]

Barring the last 3 groups that's a complete waste of everyone's time.

[Gray Fox]

Yes Virgil!

Ballon d'Or next.

[John Arne]

Big Virgil :)

[Giggles]

:happycry:

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[SincereTheRebel]

Lads

[Bernanke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INiT1cA_Eqk

I fully agree Eric.

Edit: Lol

https://i.imgur.com/U4UfcGZ.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's like an old computer attempting to write poetry.

[Shindig]

It probably sounds much nicer in French.

[Smjffy]

Considering the possibilities there were before the draw, that's gone quite well for all English teams I think.

Group A: PSG, Real Madrid, Brugge, Galatasaray

Group B: Bayern, Tottenham, Olympiakos, Red Star Belgrade

Group C: Man City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zagreb, Atalanta

Group D: Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Lokomotiv

Group E: Liverpool, Napoli, Salzburg, Genk

Group F: Barcelona, Dortmund, Inter Milan, Slavia Prague

Group G: Zenit, Benfica, Lyon, Leipzig

Group H: Chelsea, Ajax, Valencia, Lille

It is what it is.

[Gray Fox]

I wouldn't chuck out Chelsea, Leverkusen or Benfica that easily.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Think we'll get out of that personally. Ajax won't be the same now and Valencia are dogshit. We did need to avoid the bigger teams who would have us for lunch, so a good draw.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I was going to say the same. Everyone thinking that's a tough group are basing that on Ajax last season, rather than Ajax of the last 20 years, and without their two best players they're more likely to be the latter. Lille have sold their best player and are Lille, and Valencia are perennially shit (look at the way Arsenal dispatched them last season). All nice, Western European trips as well. Spurs, followed by, probably City are the toughest groups (for English teams), even though City's is a bit of a joke. I have no idea what Genk or Salzburg are like, but I tend to think they'll probably be not that good - haven't Genk lost a few players to the Premier League (Trossard and Wesley?) - I suppose Salzburg could be a banana skin if their Red Bull money has snaffled them a couple of unknown Manés, but that seems unlikely.

[mugbull]

how is Tottenham’s group the hardest? It’s got 2 complete walkover teams in it

[niko_cee]

Red Star had a decent record in the group at home last year, even if they aren't that good. Most of the groups are packed with shite so Spurs having a 'giant' in there with them makes it hardest by default - they'll probably come second in it whereas all the others could/should win theirs. It's a fairly favourable draw for all the English teams.

Unless Chelsea are bobbins.

[SincereTheRebel]

Seeds


Pot 1
104.000 Sevilla (ESP)
101.000 Arsenal (ENG)
93.000 Porto (POR)
81.000 Roma (ITA)
78.000 Manchester United (ENG)
65.000 Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
62.000 Beşiktaş (TUR)
54.500 Basel (SUI)
50.000 Sporting CP (POR)
48.000 CSKA Moskva (RUS)
40.000 Wolfsburg (GER)
37.000 Lazio (ITA)

Pot 2
37.000 PSV Eindhoven (NED)
34.500 Krasnodar (RUS)
31.000 Celtic (SCO)
31.000 København (DEN)
31.000 Braga (POR)
29.500 Gent (BEL)
29.000 Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER)
27.500 Young Boys (SUI)
27.500 Astana (KAZ)
27.000 Ludogorets (BUL)
25.500 APOEL (CYP)
24.000 Eintracht Frankfurt (GER)

Pot 3
23.000 St-Étienne (FRA)
22.000 Qarabağ (AZE)
22.000 Feyenoord (NED)
20.713 Getafe (ESP)
20.713 Espanyol (ESP)
20.000 Malmö (SWE)
18.000 Partizan (SRB)
17.500 Standard Liège (BEL)
17.092 Wolves (ENG)
11.699 Rennes (FRA)
11.500 Rosenborg (NOR)
10.500 İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR)

Pot 4
10.500 AZ Alkmaar (NED)
9.646 Vitória SC (POR)
8.000 Trabzonspor (TUR)
7.780 Olexandriya (UKR)
6.250 Dudelange (LUX)
6.250 LASK (AUT)
6.250 Wolfsberg (AUT)
6.000 Slovan Bratislava (SVK)
6.000 Lugano (SUI)
5.250 Rangers (SCO)
3.500 CFR Cluj (ROU)
3.500 Ferencváros (HUN)




Europa League draw is at midday. The perfect draw im looking for travelling purposes.

Roma/Lazio
APOEL (Cyrprus)
Wolves
Trabzonspor (TUR)

[Max Power]

Potential for...

Wolfsburg
Wolves
Wolfsberger

[Spikey M]

Potential for...

Wolfsburg
Wolves
Wolfsberger

:drool:

[thommo]

Seeds

Europa League draw is at midday. The perfect draw im looking for travelling purposes.

Roma/Lazio
APOEL (Cyrprus)
Wolves
Trabzonspor (TUR)

Basel is a great place to visit. Found it a much better trip than Roma.

[SincereTheRebel]

I would like to avoid Kazakstan, Russia and Romania.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Avoid Ukraine too.

[John]

I've never been for football, but as a general holiday destination Cyprus is crap for anything but a romantic week away. One of the Germans from that pot over Cyprus all day if you're looking at it purely for the trip. Obviously for qualification purposes you take the Cypriots and put nine past them.

[Spikey M]

You've clearly never done Napa fam.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As a holiday destination it's become way too touristy.

Hotel upon hotel filled with Russians and Brits eating burgers on their quad bikes.

[SincereTheRebel]

The draw is in an hour. Im looking to travel to at least one away game in the group

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

C is a right pile of shit.

[Gray Fox]

Ashley Cole butchering half of these names.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Off to Portugal, Sincy.

I'm sure Keeks (who is now naturalised ofc) can take you over.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sevilla have a bye to the next round.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Go to Bratislava instead Sincere.

Re-create the Euro Trip.

[SincereTheRebel]

Besiktas
Braga
Slovaks

:drool:

I would prefer a Portugal trip, but I'll have to see what the rest of these man are saying.

[Ian]

There can't be many less glamourous draws than Group B.

[Pleb]

Rangers :D

What a group.

[SincereTheRebel]

Group A

Sevilla
Apoel
Qarabag
Dudelange


Group B

Dynamo Kiev
Copenhagen
Malmo
Lugano

Group C

FC Basel
Krasnodar
Getafe
Trabzonspor

Group D

Sporting CP
PSV
Rosenborg
LASK

Group E

Lazio
Celtic
Rennes
CFR Cluj

Group F

Arsenal
Eintracht Frankfurt
Standard Liege
Vitoria FC

Group G

Porto
Young Boys
Feyenoord
Rangers

Group H

CSKA Moscow
Ludogorets
Espanyol
Ferencvaros

Group I

Wolfsburg
Gent
St Etienne
Olexandriya

Group J

Roma
Borussia Mönchengladbach
Istanbul Basaksehir
Wolfsburg

Group K

Besiktas
Braga
Wolves
Slovan Bratislava

Group L

Manchester United
Astana
Partizan Belgrade
AZ Akmaar

[Gray Fox]

Look at those cheating Germans, swindling their way into 2 groups at once.

[SincereTheRebel]

Go to Bratislava instead Sincere.

Re-create the Euro Trip.

They are on a euro ban, behind closed doors?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sneak in.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You should go to Braga, they have a very cool stadium.

[Kikó]

United's away day is going to be difficult. Stadium 10 hours away with the Kazakh mob, stadium fallen apart with the Dutch mob and Stadium lunatics with Partizan...

Hoping to do one.

[Kikó]

Also Dundee Derby on BT sports.

[Raoul Duke]

Also Dundee Derby on BT sports.

Metz vs. PSG is what the cool kids are watching

[Kikó]

Ffs.

[Kikó]

😎United

[Giggles]

This is the winning of the league tonight.

[Lewis]

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Spanish prick.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It always sounds Japanese to me. Yoshi Hariata.

[thommo]

I mean he does get touched but it is fucking embarrassing how late he goes down. Ref was an absolute shambles tonight though, bowed to the pressure from the home crowd. I’ll happily take a point in those circumstances.

[Shindig]

I often wonder why he doesn't decide to tell the ref he fell. Wait a second, gauge the reaction and then decide how you're going to play it.

[phonics]

I like how Spurs are now having to live through the 2008-2012 era of Arsenal without the benefit of actually winning anything prior to that

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[Giggles]

#smalltimephonicsonspurs

[mugbull]

:D

Phonics is the Arsenal equivalent of the Spurs fans that camp out on the Spurs subreddit

[Waffdon]

6-2 again

[Trancemeister]

Southampton XI: Gunn, Cedric, Danso, Vestergaard, Bednarek, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Boufal, Ings, Adams.

Man Utd XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Young, McTominay, Pogba, Mata, James, Andreas, Rashford.

[Giggles]

Just seen the video of Arter last night :D

[Spikey M]

He hasn't mastered the Arter diving.

[Boydy]

McTominay looks like an athletic version of Buzz McAllister from Home Alone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

James scores some cracking goals.

[Ian]

Lovely stuff from Danuzaj.

[Lewis]

Proper finish that. Just twat it lad.

[Waffdon]

Both teams should score a few here.

[Lewis]

Lovely stuff from Danuzaj.

Danbriel Jabertan.

[Ian]

Duke Jamwick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My bets btw:

Rashford to score first - DEAD
Man United to win 2-1, 3-1 or 3-0
Man United to score in both halves & over 1.5 corners in each half
Pogba and Daniel James to have a shot on target.

[Lewis]

Danny Welbeck putting himself about on his return here.

[Ian]

Pogba's genius ploy of repeatedly giving the ball away to try and set the foundations for future counter attacks being totally wasted by his dreadful teammates here. :nono:

[Ian]

Pereira. :face:

[Ian]

Well that had been coming. Shit.

[Lewis]

Shouldn't the one who can head be picking him up there?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We are saved, Matic is here.

[Ian]

Keown really is a dreadful commentator. He's spent most of this half comparing players to outdated stereotypes that you literally never see any more, talking about goalhangers and deep midfielders who want the ball rather than just to hoof people.

Next up a fascinating insight on how De Gea's game is affected by not being allowed to pick it up if his defender rolls it back to him.

[Ian]

The Macho Man is an interesting choice of sub.

[Ian]

What an amazingly idiotic challenge.

[Lewis]

How did Wan-Bissaka earn his first professional contract as a winger? He literally has no idea what to do there.

[Trancemeister]

Chelsea Kepa, Azpilicueta, Zouma, Tomori, Emerson, Jorginho, Kovacic, Pulisic, Barkley, Mount, Abraham

Sheff Utd Henderson, Stevens, O'Connell, Egan, Basham, Baldock, Norwood, Lundstram, Freeman, Robinson, McBurnie


Crystal Palace Guaita, Ward, Kelly, Cahill, Van Aanholt, Milivojevic, Kouyate, McCarthur, Schlupp, Zaha, Ayew

Aston Villa Heaton, Guilbert, Engels, Mings, Taylor, Luiz, McGinn, Grealish, Jota, Trezeguet, Wesley


Leicester Schmeichel, Pereira, Evans, Soyuncu, Chilwell, Ndidi, Albrighton, Tielemans, Maddison, Barnes, Vardy

Bournemouth Ramsdale, Mepham, Cook, Ake, Smith, Wilson, Billing, Lerma, Fraser, King, Wilson


Man City Ederson, Walker, Otamendi, Laporte, Zinchenko, Rodrigo, De Bruyne, Silva, Sterling, Mahrez, Aguero

Brighton Ryan, Webster, Dunk, Burn, Montoya, Stephens, Pröpper, March, Bernardo, Maupay, Trossard


Newcastle Dubravka, Krafth, Dummett, Schar, Lascelles, Willems, Almiron, Hayden, Longstaff, Atsu, Joelinton.

Watford Foster, Femenia, Janmaat, Dawson, Cathcart, Kabasele, Doucoure, Hughes, Pereyra, Cleverley, Gray.


West Ham Fabianski, Fredericks, Diop, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Rice, Noble, Anderson, Lanzini, Yarmolenko, Haller.

Norwich Krul, Aarons, Zimmermann, Godfrey, Lewis, Stierpermann, Trybull, Cantwell, Leitner, Buendia, Pukki

[John]

Ward Prowse being easily outpaced by Ashley Young then easily outmuscled by Jesse Lingard doesn't say much for him as an athlete.

[Lewis]

That's another penalty.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thought that was in from Young for a second.

Greenwood should play more.

[Lewis]

Promote him as the academy poster boy and throw Rashford in the fucking BIN.

[John Arne]

Phil Foden not getting a start at home to Brighton is surely a sign that he has to leave City pronto. I know he is still young, but 19 and has only started 3 premier League game.

[Lewis]

Won't he be replacing David Silva next season?

[Andy]

About time the tallest player in the league got his head on something. Vestegaard and Bednarek both brilliant and the two in front played well. Having a strong core is going to be so important this season.

Just a shame we are so lacking at full back. The 4222 Hassenhuttl wants to play involves the width coming from the full backs with the 2 attacking midfielders tucking inside, as it is we end up almost playing a 442 with Ings dropping back to help the midfield.

[randomlegend]

Ahhhhhhh

[Waffdon]

Zouma over Christensen is a mystery. He’s a pub player.

[Trancemeister]

Is cheering not allowed at Etihad? It's so silent.

[Waffdon]

How has the referee chopped that Villa goal off. He’s not even claimed the foul and stretches to pass anyway

[Shindig]

Outside of the bottom three. Awesome.

[Reg]

Won't he be replacing David Silva next season?
Bernardo, shirley. I know he plays right wing as well but pretty sure he'd be seen as future partner to De Bruyne.

I thought we played well first half today. And losing by 4 away at City is probably the equivalent of drawing away at Arsenal or United, so on we march!

Anyone watch the Chelsea game, by the way? Can Lampard not coach defending?

[Lewis]

I forgot about him. Yes, he should join United.

[Waffdon]

Bernardo, shirley. I know he plays right wing as well but pretty sure he'd be seen as future partner to De Bruyne.

I thought we played well first half today. And losing by 4 away at City is probably the equivalent of drawing away at Arsenal or United, so on we march!

Anyone watch the Chelsea game, by the way? Can Lampard not coach defending?

He’s not exactly been blessed with decent players. Zouma and Azpilicueta should be playing for Everton and Burnley or something. The younger players aren’t much better. Reece James will walk into the side.

[Offshore Toon]

Outside of the bottom three. Awesome.
Can't believe it. City must be buzzing.

[Gray Fox]

What on Earth is Pope playing at leaving that?

[John Arne]

https://gyazo.com/3996044e6b552bd4dbf0266dc0045f92.gif

[Waffdon]

Liverpool are winning the league by about 12 points.

[SincereTheRebel]

Liverpool are winning the league by about 12 points.

https://i.gifer.com/8ks0.gif

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Liverpool are winning the league by about 12 points.

:lol:

[Gray Fox]

Much better. Burnley not given a sniff.

[Mike]

Liverpool are winning the league by about 12 points.

I think we might go unbeaten and come second. It’ll break my heart. :(
Then we’ll get number 7 ;)

[Spikey M]

This is Liverpools year and I can accept it with only the slightest taste of bile.

[-james-]

City aren't going to drop 12 points, never mind lose the league by 12 points.

[Shindig]

The league was never won 4 games in. Unless there is statistical evidence saying otherwise.

[Trancemeister]

Juventus blows a 3-0 lead vs Napoli.

[Gray Fox]

I thought that was as good as we've looked yet. The only slight negative being Salah not passing when he should have, twice.

A bit of fortune with the opener, but we'd already smashed the post at that point. I don't remember a Burnley shot after the first 2 minutes.

[niko_cee]

City aren't going to drop 12 points, never mind lose the league by 12 points.

So City are going to get more than 102 points?

But yeah, take the point. Season seems to be shaping up to be much like the last. Can Liverpool match/better whatever City do, as no one else is going to be close by the looks of it.

[Trancemeister]

Koulibaly own goal on stoppage time

[niko_cee]

I see Osasuna came back. Barcelona are so wank. The post-Messi years are going to be beyond glorious. Spaffing the next couple of transfer windows' budgets on Neymar is only going to hasten the lols.

[Gray Fox]

That Neymar deal appears to have fallen through. Either way though unless LA MASIA, mate, is hiding a gem, they're in some trouble.

[randomlegend]

That Neymar deal appears to have fallen through. Either way though unless LA MASIA, mate, is hiding a gem, they're in some trouble.

That 16 year old they're putting out looks a bit special.

[Mellberg]

Can someone talk me through the disallowed Villa goal. Joke.

[Giggles]

Can someone talk me through the disallowed Villa goal. Joke.

Villa are cretins. That's how.

[Mellberg]

So are incestuous Paddys, but there we are.

[Andy]

So City are going to get more than 102 points?

But yeah, take the point. Season seems to be shaping up to be much like the last. Can Liverpool match/better whatever City do, as no one else is going to be close by the looks of it.

They're more than capable of 102+ just depends if theres another team pushing them all the way like last season.

Actually crazy how far away the top two are from the rest. Not even close.

[Giggles]

So are incestuous Paddys, but there we are.

Oi Oi Oi Oi Oi.

[Shindig]

They're more than capable of 102+ just depends if theres another team pushing them all the way like last season.

Actually crazy how far away the top two are from the rest. Not even close.

And kinda crazy how close the rest are to each other.

[Waffdon]

Come on you boys in green :cool:

[Waffdon]

No idea how Ryan Jack didn’t concede a free kick for that nevermind a yellow or red. Madden refusing to card folk isn’t very fun

[thommo]

No idea how Ryan Jack didn’t concede a free kick for that nevermind a yellow or red. Madden refusing to card folk isn’t very fun

He got the ball for starters. Letting the game run has made for a much better game to watch.

[Trancemeister]

AIK - Djurgården about to start. Djurgården in 1st postion, AIK 2nd. Gonna be an epic derby. 45k tickets sold.

[Waffdon]

What a weekend. 10 in a row.

[mugbull]

AIK - Djurgården about to start. Djurgården in 1st postion, AIK 2nd. Gonna be an epic derby. 45k tickets sold.

I'm living in Stockholm now, when's the next match in town worth going to?

[Trancemeister]

I'm living in Stockholm now, when's the next match in town worth going to?

Next derby is between Hammarby - AIK in three weeks. Djurgården play Hammarby in October.

[SincereTheRebel]

Boly daydreaming with the third Everton goal.

[Kikó]

The full back should be telling him. Boly can't see behind him.

[-james-]

Can someone talk me through the disallowed Villa goal. Joke.

The whistle is blown so the ball is dead before the goal goes in. The dive/tackle isn't a clear error so VAR can't really do anything.

Definitely a bullshit thing to have happen, but you can't really legislate for it.

[SincereTheRebel]

The full-back should be telling him. Boly can't see behind him.

Worst defensive performance ive seen from him and wolves in a long time. No wins in four league games now. Not concerned.

[SincereTheRebel]

https://youtu.be/Rh7ekZ4XWUM

[phonics]

Pochettino ending his flounce with his two good players for this match is a bit annoying.

[Waffdon]

That’s horrific from all involved. Christ

[phonics]

What an awful goal.

[John Arne]

Don't think I could trust my manager if he was a 47yr old wearing that much hair gel.

[Foe]

Xhaka is such a liability. Even G Nev has realised it, yet arsenal managers continue to pick him.

He is so shit.

[Gray Fox]

We go live now to Phonics for the meltdown.

[phonics]

lol what a fucking idiot :D

You can only laugh.

[John Arne]

Guendouzi just as bad with the hospital ball in his own third.

[John Arne]

I'm looking forward to seeing this Arsenal sub that Redknapp keeps mentioning.... Seb Aloss.

[Waffdon]

The Arsenal top will never be beaten. Beautiful

[Spoonsky]

That's a class goal.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im sitting next to a really nice lady who is really talkative. Constantly touching my arm on some mysterious girl type of vibe.

From my view, that laca footwork was mental. No way he should have made it through the defence.

[phonics]

I love Lacazette. Didn't think much when he came in but he's such a player.

[SincereTheRebel]

Guen had a scorching game. He was great. Laca is really good at close control jn the box with defenders touch tight to him. He always seems to get shots off.

[SincereTheRebel]

River are playing boca and there is a player who is full Argentina named Kevin Mac Allister

[Giggles]

River are playing boca and there is a player who is full Argentina named Kevin Mac Allister

Alexis according to LiveScore. There is a Kevin too but he's not playing.

[Spikey M]

Must have been left at home.

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[mo]

Must have been left at home.

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:baz:

I expect better from you.

[Ian]

Why?

[Spikey M]

Fair question.

[mo]

Perhaps I just have low standards.

[phonics]

1168622844227534850

What an absolute nutjob.

[Spikey M]

Christ.

[Smjffy]

Those Neville brothers don't have speak some shit. Gary Neville's on going criticism against Lukaku says it all, he's fizzled out for me since when he first started. I can't believe I actually enjoyed him at first but nowadays he just speaks so much rubbish it's unrelenting. I also think he believes he's a bigger part of United than he actually is. I'd take what he says with a pinch of salt. As for Phil Neville...he doubted himself and mixed things up against the USA which contributed to their defeat, what the mouth chats isn't necessarily what the mind is thinking. He'll never make it in the men's game.

[Yevrah]

I don't think it'll be long before someone calls Neville out for picking on black players and/or forriners. While that would be somewhat ludicrous, he needs to be less of a gutless fuck when it comes to chastising players he might run into on the golf course.

[Smjffy]

It's interesting that you mention that as I opted against including it in my post above as I thought I'd get jumped on for it but I have felt there's a little undertone of racism in his criticisms.

[Andy]

It's interesting that you mention that as I opted against including it in my post above as I thought I'd get jumped on for it but I have felt there's a little undertone of racism in his criticisms.

They're all at it, look at the criticism towards Lukaku, Sterling, Pogba, Ballotelli etc. Souness was having a go at Moise Kean yesterday for his attitude, hes started one game for Everton.

[SincereTheRebel]

Surely some of the white boys get it also? I can't really think of any names but it cant be so one-sided.