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Yevrah
07-10-2015, 09:57 PM
So, the BBC Top Gear fronted by Chris Evans will return for 16 episodes in May 2016.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s265/top-gear/news/a672315/top-gear-will-return-with-chris-evans-in-may-2016-with-16-episodes-planned.html#~pqt4FvJLDwmy6m

Which one do you think will be better?

Lewis
07-10-2015, 10:04 PM
I've got a feeling that they will both be crap. The BBC one will just be for obvious reasons, and the Amazon one will either be 1) over-blown and incoherent to the point of shitness or; 2) phoned in and a bit tired.

Yevrah
07-10-2015, 10:09 PM
I do wonder how the Amazon Prime one will cope without the infrastructure and other benefits the BBC clearly offers.

I suspect the Evans one will be more about cars, and no-one really wants to see that.

Jimmy Floyd
07-10-2015, 10:09 PM
The reason Top Gear was so good was that the charisma of the presenters (well, of Clarkson) combined with the namby-pamby might of the BBC and the result was basically the best from each camp. Now, each will be unfettered by the other and so both will be worse, although I'm more of a Chris Evans fan than some so who knows.

Giggles
07-10-2015, 10:13 PM
The Amazon one for definite. I'll give the BBC one a go if there's nothing else on because cars, though Evans is normally intolerable.

Yevrah
07-10-2015, 10:16 PM
I think Evans is alright and he was probably the best choice, but I fear he suffers from that affliction that a lot of rich middle aged men start to suffer from when they hit that time of life, being fucking boring.

Giggles
07-10-2015, 10:17 PM
http://i58.tinypic.com/2n1ewjo.jpg

The three cars they had been trying to line up finally too.

Pepe
07-10-2015, 10:18 PM
The real question is who would get Amazon Prime just for that shite?

Yevrah
07-10-2015, 10:18 PM
Do what what Giggles?

Vim
07-10-2015, 10:18 PM
Oh yes. :drool:

James May in a Ferrari. :drool:

Yevrah
07-10-2015, 10:19 PM
The real question is who would get Amazon Prime just for that shite?

People who loved Top Gear but don't know how to use the internet presumably. Although it should be pointed out that you don't only get that by signing up.

Pepe
07-10-2015, 10:22 PM
Indeed, you also get the privilege of them sending you your packages right away instead of holding them for a few days to try and get you to sign to Prime.

Yevrah
07-10-2015, 10:23 PM
And a shit load of other tv shows and movies on demand...

Giggles
07-10-2015, 10:24 PM
Do what what Giggles?

The LaFerrari, McLaren P1, and Porche 918 test they'd been trying to organise during the final series on the BBC before it was cut short. There had been a problem getting one of the cars each time they tried to get the three together. Either that or they were saving it for a series finale before the rug got pulled.

Yevrah
07-10-2015, 10:24 PM
So that'll be in their new show?

Giggles
07-10-2015, 10:26 PM
So that'll be in their new show?

Yeah Clarkson tweeted that photo today.


http://i59.tinypic.com/5lcj10.png

Lewis
07-10-2015, 10:31 PM
Have they got a name for it yet? They should just do a Roger Waters and call it Top Gear until somebody sues them otherwise.

Disco
07-10-2015, 10:34 PM
Gop Tear.

Giggles
07-10-2015, 10:36 PM
It was reported a few weeks back that they had copyrighted the name Gear Knobs, but I couldn't see it.

Vim
07-10-2015, 10:36 PM
Fracas

John Arne
07-10-2015, 10:42 PM
Flappy Paddles.

Magic
08-10-2015, 06:49 AM
Gop Tear.

That's the documentary about Trump when Clinton destroys him.

Pepe
08-10-2015, 12:30 PM
You mean Bernie.

Demerit
08-10-2015, 12:50 PM
Voting for the wrong option fail.

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2015, 07:44 PM
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/mg_topgear_lineup_comp.png?w=620&h=354&crop=1

Evans is being joined by Sabine (:drool:) who has done some stuff for Top Gear before including driving round the Nürburgring in 10 minutes and 8 seconds with a Ford Transit van, Chris 'Who?' Harris and David 'The Chin' Coulthard.

Picture taken from the Metro and they've made Harris look like he has one of those caved in skulls/John Hartson.

Giggles
23-12-2015, 07:45 PM
Coulthard means instant not watching here.

Yevrah
23-12-2015, 07:47 PM
I don't watch much F1, but isn't Coulthard, well, a bit dull?

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2015, 07:53 PM
DC is a lovely man but boring on TV to the point of infuriation.

Lewis
23-12-2015, 07:56 PM
Chris Harris was obviously the blackest car person they could find, although you would have thought Lewis Hamilton's brother could have killed two birds with one stone there.

John
23-12-2015, 07:57 PM
Presumably they'll have Evans and the other bloke doing the talking, Coulthard driving things quickly as a Stig figure, and Sabine doing anything where quality driving needs to be married with the existence of a personality.

Magic
23-12-2015, 08:04 PM
Chris Harris is a boring cunt, look at his YouTube reviews why the fuck did they pick him?

Sounds utterly awful especially with Evans at the helm.

Byron
23-12-2015, 08:49 PM
Sabine is going to have to carry that show frankly.

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2015, 08:55 PM
Chris Evans is probably better than you all think. Why they've broken the One Steve Rule for that man pictured above I don't know however.

Lee
23-12-2015, 09:17 PM
I like Chris Evans so I don't understand all the negativity. Mind you I think Top Gear is shit since I'm about as interested in cars as I am washing lines. I'm still not sure what half the buttons and knobs in my car do and it's better that way as I'd only break something.

Yevrah
23-12-2015, 10:10 PM
I'd guess that loads of people watch Top Gear who don't care about cars. I watch it and don't give a shit about them.

Disco
23-12-2015, 11:13 PM
I don't think that's a bad line up (although I have no idea who this Harris guy is) apart from the obvious disparity of having two professional drivers. The only thing that will matter is them having decent chemistry, that's what made the previous lot watchable.

John Arne
24-12-2015, 05:00 AM
Presumably they'll have Evans and the other bloke doing the talking, Coulthard driving things quickly as a Stig figure, and Sabine doing anything where quality driving needs to be married with the existence of a personality.

I think the Stig is still there.

Shindig
24-12-2015, 08:33 AM
It might work if people just don't expect it to be Top Gear. No more matey piss-taking around every segment, etc.

Baz
24-12-2015, 08:59 AM
Sabine (:drool:)
:drool:? Really?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1129171397/sabine.jpg

Really?! :cab:

Lewis
04-02-2016, 04:30 PM
Matt LeBlanc seems like an alright enough geezer whenever I've seen him interviewed, but... Wot? Which other turn of the century figures have they got lined up for a role? Antoine de Caunes would be good if it doesn't have to be a woman.

Jimmy Floyd
04-02-2016, 04:35 PM
DC ditching it after about half an hour for his bent F1 deal was pretty lol.

Giggles
04-02-2016, 04:46 PM
I knew we all said it would be shit, but it really is going to be shit isn't it?

Disco
04-02-2016, 04:56 PM
Have they got anyone who actually knows anything about cars? Say what you like about Clarkson et al but between the three of them they had a pretty encyclopedic knowledge of the subject.

Jimmy Floyd
04-02-2016, 04:59 PM
James May's car (industry) programme the other day was great.

Sir Andy Mahowry
04-02-2016, 04:59 PM
Have they got anyone who actually knows anything about cars? Say what you like about Clarkson et al but between the three of them they had a pretty encyclopedic knowledge of the subject.

They're still getting Sabine and the other Chris.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-02-04/more-big-names-to-join-matt-leblanc-as-presenters-on-top-gear---but-it-will-still-be-the-chris-evans-show

RadioTimes.com understands that Harris and Schmitz will not be part of a conventional “gang” alongside Evans and LeBlanc in the way that "Three Amigos "Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond presented the show.

The new structure is expected to see Evans with the sole main presenter credit and Harris and Schmitz as the most regular guest presenters, followed by other members of the "family" including LeBlanc and other personalities who are expected to be named in the coming days.

niko_cee
04-02-2016, 05:04 PM
It's going to be bad on a biblical scale.

Giggles
04-02-2016, 05:16 PM
James May's car (industry) programme the other day was great.

Was that the 4x4 of the people thing the other night or the one when he followed the mini through production?

Though both were great.

Yevrah
04-02-2016, 06:29 PM
Coulthard leaving was a blessing, but Matt Le Blanc? Will he basically be reprising his role as Joey?

Ian
04-02-2016, 06:33 PM
Isn't he a personality-free gimp in real life? I thought he knew quite a bit about cars when he was on as a guest.

Disco
04-02-2016, 06:34 PM
They've gone the wrong way entirely, rather than getting presenters who like cars they should be getting motoring journalists/afficionados who can also be presenters.

Yevrah
04-02-2016, 06:36 PM
Isn't he a personality-free gimp in real life? I thought he knew quite a bit about cars when he was on as a guest.

Whenever I've seen him interviewed he seems quite coy and certainly doesn't come across as having the required self confidence to present that sort of show as himself.

Joey it is then.

Magic
04-02-2016, 06:48 PM
This sounds like utter trash. Joey, for fuck's sake. :D

Giggles
11-02-2016, 10:21 AM
DIVERSITY.

http://www.topgear.com/sites/default/files/styles/fit_1960x1102/public/images/news-article/carousel/2016/02/dec0ee2f00355ba16effc5cbfcce1613/tg_-line-up_maincloser_af1.jpg

Davgooner
11-02-2016, 10:23 AM
It's going to tank so bad.

Giggles
11-02-2016, 10:23 AM
Eddie fucking Jordan :nono:

wullie
11-02-2016, 10:29 AM
The shock twist is The Stig will be revealed as Miss Chanandler Bong.

SincereTheRebel
11-02-2016, 11:30 AM
Only pieces missing was a muslim beard or burqa and a sikh turban

Vim
11-02-2016, 12:52 PM
Eddie Jordan is quite entertaining in the F1 coverage, I think. I don't think it will be as good as the trio's show, but it might not be as bad as some people seem to think.

Reg
11-02-2016, 01:41 PM
Whenever I've seen him interviewed he seems quite coy and certainly doesn't come across as having the required self confidence to present that sort of show as himself.

Joey it is then.
I've thought the opposite. He's seemed very self assured to me. But sounds like he'll only be featured every few episodes or something anyway.

Disco
11-02-2016, 01:41 PM
EJ is a decent choice actually. He was pretty fast in his day and he's likely to say whatever pops into his mad old head.

Reg
11-02-2016, 01:54 PM
I saw some of James May's programme the other day. It's just his bits from Top Gear getting a full hour. The style and production are exactly the same.

Ian
11-02-2016, 08:33 PM
Reading about about the two I've never previously heard of.


Chris Harris is well known for fronting various motoring programmes on YouTube.

Referencing the show's cheeky and irreverent style, Harris said: "I'm quite gobby and happy to get into trouble, so I'm hoping I can underpin the programme with journalistic credibility but still cause some mischief."

Ugh.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3442449/Meet-Rory-Reid-foul-mouthed-Jeremy-Clarkson-wannabe-presenting-Gear.html

Ugh. It's going to be horrific.

Giggles
11-02-2016, 08:37 PM
Reading about about the two I've never previously heard of.



Ugh.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3442449/Meet-Rory-Reid-foul-mouthed-Jeremy-Clarkson-wannabe-presenting-Gear.html

Ugh. It's going to be horrific.

I've seen Harris and he's decent but that other guy sounds like a complete joke.

Sir Andy Mahowry
11-02-2016, 08:56 PM
Harris is a boring gimp.

I tried one of his Youtube videos, I only lasted 30 seconds.

Jimmy Floyd
11-02-2016, 09:23 PM
It's all making me quite optimistic about the new Clarkson vehicle, to be honest.

Davgooner
11-02-2016, 09:28 PM
I tried one of his Youtube videos, I only lasted 30 seconds.

Jesus.

Lewis
11-02-2016, 09:29 PM
I can only imagine that the core (Big Breakfast, Joey, Magda Goebbels) will do the Top Gear stuff, and the others will do the Fifth Gear stuff. It makes sense in some ways because it avoids direct comparisons with the old one, but there has to be a divide along the lines suggested or it will be too random and shit.

Giggles
11-02-2016, 09:30 PM
It's all making me quite optimistic about the new Clarkson vehicle, to be honest.

I can see it being the better show but the BBC one will last longer because it's the BBC and not some flash in the pan vehicle that won't exist in 5 years.

Alex
11-02-2016, 09:39 PM
Evans looks like the walking personification of a mid-life crisis in that photo.

Magic
11-02-2016, 09:41 PM
I'm sorry but the 'public' token black guy that looks like he has a disability. :D

That line up is like an NHS employer's wet dream. Black, female, European, Ginger, American, half-cast, old and Irish.

Lewis
11-02-2016, 09:44 PM
I liked the BBC's attempt (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35549427) to own the mockery. If ever an entire organisation was SEETHING...

Lewis
11-02-2016, 09:45 PM
'Ruined Billie Piper' slipping through quality control as well.

Jimmy Floyd
11-02-2016, 09:59 PM
I had a pensions leaflet through the other day, the photo on the front of which in just four people managed to cover literally everything except disability. I was quite impressed.

Middle aged white man
Young black man, with his hand on the white man's shoulder
Young Asian woman
Old Chinese woman

They were all standing up and leaning over a table looking excited about some form of academic work.

Alan Shearer The 2nd
11-02-2016, 10:58 PM
Harris is a boring gimp.

I tried one of his Youtube videos, I only lasted 30 seconds.

Based on 30 seconds of a youtube video? :D

Not sure how all this will pan out but he knows his shit and can drive.

That being said, I hadn't properly watched Top Gear for ages because it was becoming a bit crap, save the odd interesting short on a car. Star in a reasonably priced car is and always has been the worst thing about it.

Magic
11-02-2016, 11:04 PM
You're the sort of wank that watches it purely for the cars, though.

Alan Shearer The 2nd
11-02-2016, 11:06 PM
Of course, given the rest of it was pretty crap.

Magic
11-02-2016, 11:08 PM
Reading about about the two I've never previously heard of.



Ugh.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3442449/Meet-Rory-Reid-foul-mouthed-Jeremy-Clarkson-wannabe-presenting-Gear.html

Ugh. It's going to be horrific.

Oh my fuck I missed this. :harold:

Jimmy Floyd
11-02-2016, 11:11 PM
It reads like 'just find any black man who's ever been filmed driving a car'. They probably thought they would be taken to pieces like the Oscars if they didn't have one.

wullie
11-02-2016, 11:16 PM
After his three hour interview on TFI Friday, thank fuck Lewis Hamilton already has a job.

Disco
12-02-2016, 12:13 AM
I bet OJ is available.

John
12-02-2016, 03:20 AM
Reading about about the two I've never previously heard of.

Ugh.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3442449/Meet-Rory-Reid-foul-mouthed-Jeremy-Clarkson-wannabe-presenting-Gear.html

Ugh. It's going to be horrific.

That reads like a transcript of a Big Brother audition tape.


It's all making me quite optimistic about the new Clarkson vehicle, to be honest.

I've no idea how many episodes they're doing, but I remember reading that they were budgeted at something bonkers like two hundred million quid for the series.

Mellberg
12-02-2016, 06:24 AM
If they're not blowing up caravans on Mars then that's too much.

phonics
12-02-2016, 11:05 AM
I've no idea how many episodes they're doing, but I remember reading that they were budgeted at something bonkers like two hundred million quid for the series.

Over the entire shows run of five years. I'm guessing 6 episodes and a special every year and a half.

Magic
14-03-2016, 04:44 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35802386

Guess that's what happens when you appoint an immeasurably dim, arrogant American on a British show. Evans is seething. :harold:

Giggles
14-03-2016, 04:52 PM
All a bit Helen Lovejoy.

Magic
14-03-2016, 04:53 PM
Not really, do anything near or with a memorial and it's asking for trouble.

Toby
14-03-2016, 04:57 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35802386

Guess that's what happens when you appoint an immeasurably dim, arrogant American on a British show. Evans is seething. :harold:

As if it would have been Le Blanc's idea.

Lewis
14-03-2016, 05:09 PM
Is the OUTRAGE purely at doing a stunt near the Cenotaph? Because that is so American.

Giggles
14-03-2016, 05:12 PM
Bit of respect needed, yes, but you'd think he was doing them round it, rather than in the general vicinity.

Magic
14-03-2016, 05:15 PM
It's a lose lose situation, Evans is pandering to his BBC Radio 2 personality by saying it's a disgrace etc so he just looks like a pathetic, moaning cunt and Top Gear are losing their EDGINESS by not showing it yet making a huge fuss about it on the BBC.

Why put yourselves in that situation in the first place? We can't even laugh at it because it's another country ala THE SUN.

John Arne
14-03-2016, 05:31 PM
Surely there is no way Evans didn't know about this.

I'm guessing Le Blanc will get the hump now due to not being backed publicly and storm out. Scenes.

Giggles
14-03-2016, 05:33 PM
Surely there is no way Evans didn't know about this.

I'm guessing Le Blanc will get the hump now due to not being backed publicly and storm out. Publicity

Fixed.

Disco
14-03-2016, 06:22 PM
Unless it's a memorial commemorating those who died fighting against reckless driving I don't really see the issue, and if it's a proximity thing then within what radius is a doughnut/burnout deemed disrespectful? This smacks of BBC yoghurt knitters forcing an apology where none was needed in order to deflect criticism.

Magic
14-03-2016, 06:23 PM
IMO Evans has made it infinitely worse with his comments. Could you ever imagine Clarkson publicly critisising May or Hammond for something like that? Again, to re-iterate, not that they would have done anything like that in the first place.

Jimmy Floyd
14-03-2016, 06:25 PM
Do me a favour. We're not the fucking land of the free respecting the FLAG and HEROES.

Tony Blair has ruined remembrance.

Disco
14-03-2016, 06:28 PM
The previous lot were relatively untouchable because of ratings and syndication income, just look at how much crap they (Clarkson) got away with before he eventually got sacked so they could basically say/not say whatever they liked. Anyway, this was probably all worked out beforehand, I'm sure Joey understands how PR works.

Magic
14-03-2016, 06:32 PM
Yes but saying nigger isn't as bad as DISRESPECTING the Centopah, to most of middle England.

Disco
14-03-2016, 06:38 PM
Yes but saying nigger isn't as bad as DISRESPECTING the Centopah, to most of middle England.

Are they from Dr Who because I don't watch that.

Magic
14-03-2016, 06:45 PM
James and the Giant Peach, mate.

Yevrah
14-03-2016, 06:50 PM
Fixed.

It's nothing to do with publicity, it's already arguably the biggest tv show/franchise in the world.

Jimmy Floyd
14-03-2016, 06:56 PM
It'll just be fucking morons in a production company having no idea what is going on around them.

Yevrah
14-03-2016, 08:19 PM
Yep.

It's also feasible that all Chris Evans would have known about it was "we're doing a bit with Matt and a Rally driver in central London" (which sounds rubbish by the way) if he wasn't directly involved.

Lewis
14-03-2016, 09:12 PM
[We] apologise unreservedly for what these images seem to portray. They look entirely disrespectful, which of course was not and would never be the intention of the Top Gear team, or Matt. The images on the front pages of the papers today - it doesn't matter what actually happened - what is important is what these images look like.

This is what the idiots want.

Jimmy Floyd
14-03-2016, 09:13 PM
What do 'these images' look like? A guy doing some manoeuvres with a war memorial in shot?

Magic
14-03-2016, 09:15 PM
Le Blanc abusing some children beside the war memorial.

Shindig
14-03-2016, 09:20 PM
Who's with me on building a bitching ramp over those monuments whilst the national anthem plays?

Disco
14-03-2016, 09:48 PM
What do 'these images' look like? A guy doing some manoeuvres with a war memorial in shot?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35802386

Lewis
11-05-2016, 03:07 PM
The Grand Tour. Right. The adverts for the BBC one look alright actually.

Magic
11-05-2016, 03:24 PM
Uz weantin a fiukin square go eh

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 06:59 PM
BBC Two now.

It's going to be so bad.

P_3
29-05-2016, 07:04 PM
Jesus, this is so bad.

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:05 PM
Was Evans taking the piss out of Clarkson with his intro voiceover thing?

Pretty sure they told the audience to find that catering joke hilarious too.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 07:05 PM
I really do hate Chris Evans.

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:06 PM
The rest of the show needs to be good because Evans may make it unwatchab;e for me.

Or at least make it something I record and pick which bits I watch carefully, which would be a shame.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 07:10 PM
He's trying so hard to be like Clarkson as well, it's just bizarre.

niko_cee
29-05-2016, 07:14 PM
It's just awful.

Not that it wasn't before, but at least it was it's own type of awful, rather than this bizarre masquerade.

As if you'd nail the breaks at 100mph with a $100k car (or whatever it is) right on your arse.

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:15 PM
"Bizarre masquerade" sums it up.

CJay
29-05-2016, 07:16 PM
Wow, Chris Evans is annoying. Joey has been alright so far.

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:21 PM
LeBlanc has been significantly better than Evans so far, but then so would a jug full of acid to the face so I'm not sure if that's saying much.

Pleb
29-05-2016, 07:21 PM
That Friends actor is actually donning it so far.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 07:23 PM
LeBlanc has been significantly better than Evans so far, but then so would a jug full of acid to the face so I'm not sure if that's saying much.

I think he's actually been good, I'm genuinely surprised.

Evans is horribad though.

Pleb
29-05-2016, 07:25 PM
A rally car?

Well this just escalated quickly.

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:25 PM
Gordon Ramsay and Jesse Eisenberg?

I don't understand.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 07:25 PM
Ramsay and Eisenberg are a really strange pair.

I thought the two would at least know each other.

Magic
29-05-2016, 07:28 PM
I've just turned this on...What the fuck is this shit? :D

I hate it and it's only one minute in.

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:28 PM
Assuming this is going to be how they do it regularly (which is fine, changing it up makes sense) then you would have thought getting people who know each other would make more sense, yes.

Pleb
29-05-2016, 07:28 PM
This segment is shot to hell

Magic
29-05-2016, 07:29 PM
Was Evans taking the piss out of Clarkson with his intro voiceover thing?

Pretty sure they told the audience to find that catering joke hilarious too.

I don't think so, he's trying to copy the winning formula and is failing miserably.

Pleb
29-05-2016, 07:31 PM
They commissioned 16 episodes of this? :cab:

A dirt section? :face:

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:36 PM
I actually don't mind the new version of Star In A.... but I could do without Chris Evans shouting for applause when a car goes through a fucking puddle.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 07:37 PM
It's a little long, especially with Evans taking it.

I reckon you could jog round the course faster than Eisenberg did his lap.

Magic
29-05-2016, 07:40 PM
This makes me even more excited for the actual Top Gear (torrent).

Magic
29-05-2016, 07:41 PM
Has Evans changed all the lap time cards with his own hand writing? :D

Manc
29-05-2016, 07:44 PM
Joey is donning this.

Magic
29-05-2016, 07:47 PM
Mid-season transfer to Amazon? :drool:

Pleb
29-05-2016, 07:48 PM
#GiveJoeyAShow might be trending after this.

niko_cee
29-05-2016, 07:48 PM
Aye, Le Blanc has just picked up from Episodes and run with this.

Evans to be cut and replaced with Chandler in a fortnight.

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:48 PM
#GiveJoeyAShow might be trending after this.

I suppose there's a chance people have forgotten Joey, yeah.

Magic
29-05-2016, 07:52 PM
Ramsay and Eisenberg are a really strange pair.

I thought the two would at least know each other.

Didn't they get them because the original two pulled out? Brad Pitt and someone wasn't it?

niko_cee
29-05-2016, 07:53 PM
That and they needed people Americans were aware of because, apparently, thank fuck for them, they've never heard of this Evans twat.

CJay
29-05-2016, 07:53 PM
It'll be interesting when it comes to the special shows / challenges. Chris Evans just doesn't cut it unfortunately.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 07:54 PM
Didn't they get them because the original two pulled out? Brad Pitt and someone wasn't it?

Just meant to be Brad but they thought Eisenberg and Ramsay would be enough to cover.

Magic
29-05-2016, 07:56 PM
I wish they'd have just totally changed the formula and did something totally different. The fact that the other one will be roughly the same but a million times better is even more awkward.

Pleb
29-05-2016, 07:57 PM
John Anderson showing up for no reason :D

Ian
29-05-2016, 07:58 PM
That moment of Gladiators nostalgia was the second best thing on the show after LeBlanc.

Magic
29-05-2016, 08:02 PM
I've turned it off midway through that STAR shambles. Bag of shit. I've never turned off an episode of TG or even 5th Gear.

Pleb
29-05-2016, 08:02 PM
Joey :cool:

Give the lad a show.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-05-2016, 08:03 PM
The strange in jokes about the old version is just batshit too.

Ian
29-05-2016, 08:07 PM
The whole thing was just an odd, uncomfortable mess.

Ian
29-05-2016, 08:20 PM
Seen a few people posting pictures in response along these lines:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjpmNGQWYAEdqcS.jpg

EDIT:

Back to the show. After a film about Chris Evans driving around wildly and trying to avoid a laser gun, we’re now being treated to a film about Matt LeBlanc driving around wildly and trying to avoid a photographer. It’s the same idea, which seems like a huge mistake for a first episode.

Tomorrow: a film about Chris Evans and Matt LeBlanc driving around wildly and trying to avoid reviews.

:D

Pleb
29-05-2016, 09:42 PM
"FlopGear" :D

They should sack this off really.

Magic
29-05-2016, 09:45 PM
TOP TEAR.

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6178686.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Chris-Evans.jpg

Vim
29-05-2016, 10:20 PM
Watching this, Evans is absolutely unbearable.

edit: He actually just said "It couldn't be more exciting" after asking a frustrated audience whether they liked a LaFerrari better than a random Porsche he showed. And now he's just cheered about a puddle. I'm going to bed.

Ian
29-05-2016, 10:23 PM
Did anybody watch "Extra Gear"? Some comments saying it was much, much better than the main show.

Clunge
30-05-2016, 06:51 AM
LeBlanc was astonishingly good. I thought he'd be awful - I actually detected a whiff of personality from him.

Evans though... jesus. Wracking my brains to think of who could replace him.

Baz
30-05-2016, 06:53 AM
I didn't watch it, but what made Chris Evans so bad?

Shindig
30-05-2016, 07:20 AM
I'm guessing he just shouts a lot.

Vim
30-05-2016, 09:30 AM
He's shouting all the time, that might be his delivery style but his 'jokes' are all cringeworthy. Not that I find Clarkson's jokes to be the pinnacle of humour, but at least he has his persona and owns it.

His performance during the Stars segment was abysmal, it was one the worst interviews I've ever heard probably. It seemed like he was checking off a questionnaire. "What was your first car?" "What was your best car?". It doesn't help that Jesse Eisenberg seemed to have the same level of interest in cars that James Harden has in defense.

Jimmy Floyd
30-05-2016, 09:33 AM
It just seemed to me like they've abandoned any attempt to make it good, and are simply thinking about how can we sell this to America. Which is idiotic because the reason the old one sold to America was not because they were thinking about how to sell it to America, but because it was good.

Shindig
30-05-2016, 09:35 AM
They sold America their own version. Its on its sixth series.

Vim
30-05-2016, 09:49 AM
The pandering to Americans was too much, "What's Blackpool? lol Brits amirite" and all.

Ian
30-05-2016, 03:25 PM
I didn't watch it, but what made Chris Evans so bad?

He also sounds like he's actually trying to be Clarkson.

Shindig
30-05-2016, 04:15 PM
He's shouting all the time, that might be his delivery style but his 'jokes' are all cringeworthy. Not that I find Clarkson's jokes to be the pinnacle of humour, but at least he has his persona and owns it.

His performance during the Stars segment was abysmal, it was one the worst interviews I've ever heard probably. It seemed like he was checking off a questionnaire. "What was your first car?" "What was your best car?". It doesn't help that Jesse Eisenberg seemed to have the same level of interest in cars that James Harden has in defense.

I dunno. It can't be worse than Clarkson's one with Amber Heard. "Oh, a Lesbian?! Sod cars. Let's focus on that for 10 minutes."

Disco
30-05-2016, 04:25 PM
It's only their first go, it'll probably be fine after a while.

Magic
30-05-2016, 04:35 PM
Anyone who has listened to the insufferable Radio 2 show should have known it was going to be unbearable.

Yevrah
30-05-2016, 07:43 PM
Watched it, liked it.

Boydy
30-05-2016, 09:27 PM
I suppose you're probably in the Chris Evans, Radio 2 demographic these days.

GS
30-05-2016, 09:31 PM
I moved to local radio years ago because Evans was annoying me too much.

Spikey M
31-05-2016, 06:31 PM
I watched it, it was shit. But then so was the original.

Magic
31-05-2016, 06:46 PM
I genuinely thought Revrage would emerge over this. Quite shocked.

The Merse
31-05-2016, 06:50 PM
Awfully cringeworthy.

Evans is a fun host when given freedom to do what suits his style and without a script. He's not particularly funny and not overly engaging, but can (TFI, Radio 2, Big Breakfast) carry a show with his giggly schoolboy routine.

The set piece heavy world of Top Gear is NOT the place for that unless they give it a huge overhaul.

LeBlanc? Meh. Less irritating than Evans and knowingly deadpan it seems, but still, meh.

Yevrah
01-06-2016, 07:33 PM
I genuinely thought Revrage would emerge over this. Quite shocked.

Perhaps it's because I don't mind Evans, but I thought for a first episode it was a good start. Evans was fine and the chemistry between him and Joey looked promising, with the latter being a real find. The original was at its best when they were just fucking around and I have reasonably decent hopes after the opener that Evans and Joey will be able to maintain that.

Oh and I liked the soundtrack, which presumably Evans had an input into too.

The Amazon show should be better, but we knew that anyway.

Lewis
04-06-2016, 05:20 PM
It wasn't that bad. Chris Evans will hopefully tone it down a bit, but they need more actual car stuff to move it away from what they will obviously fail to replicate. They should also ditch the celebrity lap times as well, since they were always shit.

Magic
04-06-2016, 05:35 PM
The Grand Tour is what the proper one is called. It sounds shit.

Yevrah
04-06-2016, 06:57 PM
It wasn't that bad. Chris Evans will hopefully tone it down a bit, but they need more actual car stuff to move it away from what they will obviously fail to replicate. They should also ditch the celebrity lap times as well, since they were always shit.

Nobody wants to watch 'actual car stuff' though, do they?

Lewis
04-06-2016, 08:11 PM
Nobody wants to watch Chris Evans screeching like he's introducing Keith Allen to a bunch of pissed nineties yuppies either, so you have to balance it out.

Yevrah
05-06-2016, 07:36 PM
After not thinking the opening episode was too bad, the first half an hour of this second one has been a complete mess.

'Noisy' could probably be used to sum it up best, either through Evans shouting or tires screeching there's just constant noise - I feel like I have a migrain.

Lewis
05-06-2016, 07:38 PM
It was decent until this horrendous celebrity section that is lasting forever.

Spikey M
05-06-2016, 07:43 PM
The 'Star in a reasonably priced car' bit has always been shit, though.

CJay
05-06-2016, 07:54 PM
How long does it take this to go up on iPlayer usually?

Magic
05-06-2016, 08:56 PM
I've recorded it. Worth watching?

Also did anyone else see Evans' utterly cringeworthy rant on Twitter about THE FACTS i.e viewing figures? Seemed like a desperate shouty arrogant cunt.

Yevrah
05-06-2016, 09:02 PM
His first mistake was engaging with shitter.

Gray Fox
06-06-2016, 02:45 PM
Last week Evans claimed that viewing figures growing during the hour shows it was a hit and it 'won its slot.'

This week he claims overnight viewing figures are irrelevant. Early reports suggest they lost nearly half the viewers of week 1. I wonder if those last 2 are connected.
Down from 4.4m(4.7m peak) to 2.8m(3.3m peak).

He can go full on Rafa all he wants, but claiming the figures make a good show will be his downfall I think.

Sir Andy Mahowry
06-06-2016, 04:12 PM
I still haven't watched the second.

I can't bring myself to watch more of Chris Evans attempting to be Jeremy Clarkson.

Magic
06-06-2016, 04:19 PM
Last week Evans claimed that viewing figures growing during the hour shows it was a hit and it 'won its slot.'

This week he claims overnight viewing figures are irrelevant. Early reports suggest they lost nearly half the viewers of week 1. I wonder if those last 2 are connected.
Down from 4.4m(4.7m peak) to 2.8m(3.3m peak).

He can go full on Rafa all he wants, but claiming the figures make a good show will be his downfall I think.

:D

I love this. What a fucking bell. For all to see on Twitter as well. Embarrassment.

Disco
06-06-2016, 05:04 PM
Nobody wants to watch 'actual car stuff' though, do they?

Admittedly I've only seen one episode but they appear to have binned 'The News' and they had only a cursory road/track test. Replacing it with shit celebrity stuff is definitely worse.

SincereTheRebel
06-06-2016, 07:08 PM
I havent wacthed any of this new gear yet, but i hear its awful.

Sir Andy Mahowry
06-06-2016, 08:00 PM
That's what the Amazon one should have been called.

Clunge
06-06-2016, 10:10 PM
Again, enjoyed LeBlanc, hated the rest of it. Waste of Jenson Button too, he was on for like a minute.

Ian
06-06-2016, 10:27 PM
Getting the crowd to cheer throughout that rally bits and at the mention of the Stig is properly awful.

TG09
07-06-2016, 07:36 AM
It is ok, but not great. I was hoping they would go another direction. Chris Evans is just trying too hard and the format is the same.
Matt is the only decent thing on this show.

Lewis
17-06-2016, 11:41 PM
I thought the latest episode was better and more in line with what I was on about. The celebrity bit it still far too long, but there was a nice mix in the other segments, and the two non-white geezers were good (the full-black one especially).

Joey is fatter than he thinks he is though.

Ian
19-06-2016, 09:47 PM
Tonight might be the strongest episode so far and Lewis is right about Harris and Reid but I'm still bored of the apparent inferiority complex (whether it be Evans or whoever) at times. "THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST TEST FILM TOP GEAR HAS EVER HAD!!!!!! ISN'T EVERYTHING GREAT!? RIGHT, GUYS?? RIGHT???? OH MY GOD PLEASE CHEER HOORAY WOO YEAH!"

Luke Emia
20-06-2016, 06:46 AM
I thought last nights was quite good. If they could just sort out the star in a car section they could be on to something.

Magic
20-06-2016, 06:51 AM
Still not watched an episode since. The content is irrelevant to me when the shit Ian referred to is still happening.

Lofty
20-06-2016, 06:53 AM
Yeah I saw the first because her brother insisted on watching it (and he likes it, but he does have odd taste) but Evans was strangling it. The Le Blanc only section was a nice break.

niko_cee
20-06-2016, 07:04 AM
I only watched a bit of it last night but noticed that thing after the Aston Martin bit being THE BEST TRACK FILM WE'VE EVER HAD ON TOP GEAR. Felt a bit needy.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-06-2016, 12:48 PM
Still not watched an episode since. The content is irrelevant to me when the shit Ian referred to is still happening.

I wonder what Evans will say about the viewing figures dropping yet again :harold:

Episode 4 was only 2.34m, they're haemorrhaging viewers.

6.42 > 4.06 > 3.44 > 2.34.

Edit: Just spotted that 2.34m is pure viewers on the night, so that compares to 4.4m for episode 1, 2.8m for episode 2, 2.4m for episode 3 and 2.3 for 4.

niko_cee
20-06-2016, 01:00 PM
What did the old one get?

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-06-2016, 01:02 PM
Averaging around 6m for the last few seasons.

phonics
20-06-2016, 01:29 PM
Bit unfair to use this last one as any example. It being bang on the same time as the football and all.

Yevrah
20-06-2016, 01:51 PM
Watched it last night and when the best bit of the show has a 'what's the point' feel to it you know you're in trouble.

niko_cee
20-06-2016, 04:08 PM
Bit unfair to use this last one as any example. It being bang on the same time as the football and all.

With the alternative being France v Switzerland ratings should have been through the roof.

Shindig
20-06-2016, 08:24 PM
Its the kind of thing people want to fail anyway. Kinda unfair on the guys involved, really.

P_3
22-06-2016, 11:23 PM
Something about Sabine in the last episode has got my juices flowing. :drool:

niko_cee
26-06-2016, 05:33 PM
Matt Le Blanc has tired of Evans being a twat quite quickly, it would seem.

leedsrevolution
04-07-2016, 02:36 PM
The ginger has left the building.

John
04-07-2016, 02:54 PM
Presumably the real reason is that he's about to get done for being a dirty bastard, not because he realised he's a loud tit and was ruining things.

Boydy
04-07-2016, 03:03 PM
A dirty bastard in what sense? Is he a paedo too?

John
04-07-2016, 03:04 PM
He's being investigated for a sexual assault but it's nothing to do with kids.

Sir Andy Mahowry
04-07-2016, 03:47 PM
Good, I was only able to get through the first episode because he was too fucking annoying.

Glad that Joey is staying on which I really didn't think I'd be saying.

Magic
04-07-2016, 04:20 PM
:drool:

Disco
04-07-2016, 04:37 PM
It's no real surprise, has Evans really done any regular 'prime time' entertainment recently? There's probably a reason he's mostly on the radio these days.

Lewis
05-07-2016, 01:38 PM
Having caught up with the last few episodes, I think too many twats wanted it to fail. Launching it during a football tournament hasn't helped, and you were always going to lose half the audience who only watched for lol caravan banter, but the series was better than half of what Jeremy Clarkson presided over.

Magic
05-07-2016, 01:43 PM
Wrong. The old re-runs on Dave are leagues better than the shit the new one has offered up.

P_3
05-07-2016, 02:23 PM
The last episode was dull as fuck. I don't want to watch a car review show, I want car challenges and trips I can laugh at no matter how crap the jokes are.

Alan Shearer The 2nd
05-07-2016, 02:52 PM
The challenges were mainly crap for the past few years now.

Magic
05-07-2016, 02:55 PM
The India one was the only shit one I can recall. I watched the Africa special, it was great. Also the Vietnam special was brilliant.

Disco
05-07-2016, 05:35 PM
They got tamer because two of the three were significantly older, I don't think you'd get Clarkson and May doing Botswana or Bolivia again for example.

Lewis
05-07-2016, 05:40 PM
The challenges were mainly crap for the past few years now.


The India one was the only shit one I can recall. I watched the Africa special, it was great. Also the Vietnam special was brilliant.

He said challenges, like the cringe-worthy ambulance one, or all of the aforementioned caravan banter. The current team could make a decent special.

Ian
05-07-2016, 06:46 PM
I hope that it'll be Le Blanc fronting it, primarily assisted by Harris and Reid.

Suspect they'll get somebody in to do Evans' job though, unnecessarily.

Sabine whatsherface was decent in sporadic appearances in Old Top Gear but she's rubbish when she's expected to speak too much. "I LUFF PRESSENTER CHALLENCHES!!!"

Lewis
05-07-2016, 07:02 PM
Yeah. Hopefully if Evans is the fall guy they can ditch the celebrity wank as well.

Ian
05-07-2016, 07:10 PM
"And our guests tonight........... Gordon Ramsay and Jesse Eisenberg!!!!!"
"u wot"
"Yeah!!!!"

bruhnaldo
05-07-2016, 07:14 PM
I'd watch Gordon Ramsey race cars.

Yevrah
05-07-2016, 07:22 PM
Fair play to Evans for seeing he wasn't suited/was pissing everybody off and doing the right thing.

I thought the series was ok overall. Joey was a real find, but there were too many segments of people just driving, the shelebrity stuff made time stop and the challenges were poor.

Joey I'd keep, but the rest of the presenters could be lost and I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

Ian
05-07-2016, 07:22 PM
Would you watch Gordon Ramsay pretending to have any kind of interest in the career of Jesse Eisenberg?7

EDIT: Didn't even like Harris and Reid, Yev? I think they've been genuinely good. Despite Reid's Youtube clips looking like the worst thing ever.

Reg
05-07-2016, 07:24 PM
Just let LeBlanc pick his co-host so there's actually a connection there.

Yevrah
05-07-2016, 07:26 PM
EDIT: Didn't even like Harris and Reid, Yev? I think they've been genuinely good. Despite Reid's Youtube clips looking like the worst thing ever.

They're quite good at doing actual car stuff perhaps, but that was never why I (and millions of others) watched the show in the first place.

Pepe
05-07-2016, 07:28 PM
Just scrap the whole thing, it has always been shit. No one care about cars, you can just go get your bantz elsewhere.

Magic
05-07-2016, 07:28 PM
They should just fucking can it.

Magic
05-07-2016, 07:29 PM
They're quite good at doing actual car stuff perhaps, but that was never why I (and millions of others) watched the show in the first place.

Yeah keep that shit to YouTube and your channel subscribers, you fucking wet weekends.

Yevrah
05-07-2016, 07:30 PM
They should just fucking can it.

Voluntarily dissolve a massive brand and one of the most syndicated shows in the world?

Yeah, that's going to happen.

Magic
05-07-2016, 07:32 PM
Voluntarily dissolve a massive brand and one of the most syndicated shows in the world?

Yeah, that's going to happen.

Can we just remember Clarkson is more synonymous with 'Top Gear' than the BBC. It was shite before and it will be shite after.

Yevrah
05-07-2016, 07:33 PM
Can we just remember Clarkson is more synonymous with 'Top Gear' than the BBC. It was shite before and it will be shite after.

Oh I agree with you, but they have to try.

Magic
05-07-2016, 07:36 PM
Oh I agree with you, but they have to try.

Why? It's going to be an unsuccessful, expensive mess, as has been proven and we're only half way through the new one's first season.

They should can it and re-invest it in live sport.

Yevrah
05-07-2016, 07:37 PM
It'll cost fuck all in relation to the revenues it generates.

Pepe
05-07-2016, 07:37 PM
Oh I agree with you, but they have to try.

Probably right. Seems like everyone is still watching even though they all call it shit afterwards.

Ian
05-07-2016, 08:01 PM
They're quite good at doing actual car stuff perhaps, but that was never why I (and millions of others) watched the show in the first place.

My interest in car stuff is limited but I'll watch them because I like them. Similarly I would watch Clarkson (for being a yobbo twat) and May (for actually being good) talking cars but would often skip Hammond unless I actually had any interest in the car in question because fuck Hammond.

Giggles
10-07-2016, 08:37 AM
I thought it improved a fair bit as the series went on. They've done the right thing in losing Evans and just need to dump Schmidt and Jordan now, replace none of them, and it'll be all fine.

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-11-2016, 02:18 AM
Anyone watched the first episode of the Grand Tour yet?

Not sure how long it's been up but I just spotted it.

I'll do it sometime tonight.

Yevrah
18-11-2016, 04:12 AM
Had a ridiculously late night at work and just got in, so why not?

John Arne
18-11-2016, 05:28 AM
I really don't understand the decision to release this in 5 countries now, and the other 200 odd next month. You are literally encouraging people in those other 200 countries, like me, to torrent it.

Such a bizarre decision.

Magic
18-11-2016, 06:33 AM
Torrent time. :drool:

Giggles
18-11-2016, 07:44 AM
Is this likely to be on that Exodus thing then?

Yevrah
18-11-2016, 08:03 AM
I really don't understand the decision to release this in 5 countries now, and the other 200 odd next month. You are literally encouraging people in those other 200 countries, like me, to torrent it.

Such a bizarre decision.

That is dumb.

It was alright, but it focused very much on cars, so I was bored for large stretches.

Jimmy Floyd
18-11-2016, 01:34 PM
I really don't understand the decision to release this in 5 countries now, and the other 200 odd next month. You are literally encouraging people in those other 200 countries, like me, to torrent it.

Such a bizarre decision.

In order to let the reception guide the marketing in the other territories. There are very, very few people around who actually torrent things compared to those who watch by conventional methods.

Giggles
18-11-2016, 02:05 PM
Never copped first that was the Hothouse Flowers in the opening sequence in the desert.

Danny
18-11-2016, 02:22 PM
Is this likely to be on that Exodus thing then?


I would imagine so. I'll prob be having a look for it tonight.

John Arne
18-11-2016, 03:58 PM
It's on TBP for anyone interested.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b60779f2bd4c8655c3a68049b0e16d 6a010d204d&dn=The.Grand.Tour.S01E01.WEBRip.X264-DEFLATE%5Bettv%5D&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

Giggles
18-11-2016, 04:03 PM
How do you use those magnet things? If I put it into my browser all I get is a Google results page with a Reddit thread as the top one.