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Giggles
22-12-2018, 07:29 PM
Did Pogba look like a hundred million quid? Or even 20 million? Baby steps.

randomlegend
22-12-2018, 07:43 PM
He got three very good assists.

Kikó
22-12-2018, 08:35 PM
That was enjoyable. Keep it up.

SincereTheRebel
22-12-2018, 09:36 PM
I see strong nose scored his goal.

Mike
23-12-2018, 09:12 AM
The Virgil Van Dijk song is boss.
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Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 12:21 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46662963


"What's really important is to get the Manchester United culture back and the identity back.

"I would like to see someone who has played there and can bring some of that Sir Alex mentality back to the whole of the football club.

:drool:

The delusion in these people.

phonics
23-12-2018, 12:31 PM
Sean Dyche crying is top top content.

Yevrah
23-12-2018, 12:34 PM
It is incredible.

If it was that easy to recreate the Ferguson magic then we'd have 20+ managers who played under him ripping it up the world over. Instead, they've all been bang average at best.

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 12:38 PM
It all flows from the total and utter myth of the Anfield 'boot room' of course. The cosy nonsense of the boot room actually laid the foundations for 25 years of failure at Anfield rather than being the cause of anything good. It's like the football version of Brexiteers wanting blue passports.

You have to look outside the firmament and freshen it up.

Lewis
23-12-2018, 12:47 PM
Who has been the best over their career, Steve Bruce? There is a study to be done into those mentored by the likes of Ferguson, Brian Clough, Bobby Robson, etc. using all of the historical belief systems/strategic cultures literature. Is there a tier of immortals above the common Proper Football Men? Maybe just 'Football Men', whose properness is so obvious that it need not be qualified.

randomlegend
23-12-2018, 01:13 PM
If Solksjaer does well over the next six months I genuinely think he should be given a proper crack at the job. He seems like he actually has a bit about him.

I'll be honest that I don't know much detail about Pep before he took the Barca job, but his situation then is not a million miles from Solkjaers right? He's done alright.

Schmeichel as DoF is mong-talk though :D

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 01:22 PM
You need three things from the people running a football team:

1. Directing the strategy & recruitment
2. Managing the players (emotionally)
3. Setting the team up tactically and adapting in-game

To win stuff you need to be brilliant at two of these and can be ok at one. Most 'modern' setups have the club doing 1 and a very dispensable coach doing 2 and 3.

Mourinho, in his prime, was amazing at 2 and 3, always quite ropey at 1. Now he seems to have completely lost 2, and even 3 is under question.

Ferguson was brilliant at 1 and 2, and ok at 3. Since he left United have completely neglected 1, or had Ed Woodward playing at doing it, which is even worse.

If they move to the typical model then Solskjaer I would back to do 2 pretty well. 3 time will tell, and then they need to sort 1 out upstairs.

randomlegend
23-12-2018, 01:35 PM
Yeah I'd go with that.

Despite the approach being a disaster, I don't actually think that at this point the outcome of our recruitment is all that bad. There's a load of shite bloating the squad but the bones of a very good team are there, many of them young too.

Lewis
23-12-2018, 01:38 PM
I think they need to avoid the temptation to make him the permanent manager however well he does.

randomlegend
23-12-2018, 01:39 PM
Why?

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 01:40 PM
There is definitely a difference between being a breath of fresh air ('Glad that the beatings have stopped', as David Haig said in that thing) and having the vision to replicate that over multiple seasons.

This is why Chelsea sack their managers year after year, it's much easier to inject yourself with a short term hit than attempt to be perennially successful.

randomlegend
23-12-2018, 01:43 PM
Of course, but if not given the chance you can't know.

phonics
23-12-2018, 01:43 PM
Appointing the caretaker never goes well.

Lewis
23-12-2018, 01:45 PM
It smells of 'King Kenny' coming back.

Magic
23-12-2018, 01:53 PM
Very clinical from Villa. Think we can score though.

randomlegend
23-12-2018, 02:15 PM
Well anyway, this is a conversation for 4 months time, not after one game. Let's wait and see.

Magic
23-12-2018, 03:04 PM
Holy shit.

niko_cee
23-12-2018, 03:46 PM
Well anyway, this is a conversation for 4 months time, not after one game. Let's wait and see.

You either believe in a manager's ability to do a job, or you don't. You can't wait and see, as half a season, or whatever it is, with the bus already having been largely crashed, isn't going to tell you anything - in many ways it's a worst-case scenario a la Dalglish at Liverpool (ie he does well and you have to give him the job despite it not really being your original plan). That said, I very much think the Glazers would hope he does well enough to justify a longer go as it gets pressure away from them and is a cheap option (why he has been appointed in the first place). Is Solskjaer a manager/coach of sufficient ability to take the team forward? Creating a positive atmosphere and 'letting the players play' isn't going to cut it in the long term and I, personally, don't think he is (you can fantasize about him being Pep all you like, where are Xavi, Iniesta and Messi?).

The problem is United want mutually exclusive things from their next manager. To get them back to where they belong to be instantly, and to undertake the necessary wholesale changes that actually requires. Will whoever is the manager next season keep his job if they finish 5th/don't qualify for the Champions League? If the answer is no then Pochettino is the best option, as he both improves United, and cripples a rival, and even then, Chelsea and Arsenal will be a year further into their rejuvenation processes.

Lewis
23-12-2018, 03:52 PM
He was appointed because he is the biggest fan favourite who is a) qualified on a coaching badge level; and b) not a gobshite with his own agenda.

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 03:55 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46630511

Johansson says technically he could be cloned, but a section of the DNA is removed to prevent "illicit or illegal behaviour".

"It is not 100% me; it is 99%. That 1% is very important for my own sake and protects my copyright to the DNA," says the former Bayern Munich, Blackburn and Leicester defender.

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 04:26 PM
Pickford and Zouma :cab:

Cracking finish by Son too, I thought he had put it wide.

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 04:27 PM
That was all on Pickford, his decision making really is atrocious.

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 04:36 PM
Yeah, thought it was more of a joint effort live but it was clearly all Pickford.

Fuck knows what he was doing the mong.

Danny
23-12-2018, 04:42 PM
He should have done better with the second too although the third is all on his defenders being on their heels.

That Everton goal woke them up apparently.

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 04:48 PM
He had a free shot at Alli just then with the flag up as well, horrible little shit is Pickford. So reminiscent of the young Joe Hart in many ways.

mugbull
23-12-2018, 04:54 PM
I’m looking forward to Dominic Calvert-Lewin exploding with rage in the 2nd half

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 04:56 PM
He had a free shot at Alli just then with the flag up as well, horrible little shit is Pickford. So reminiscent of the young Joe Hart in many ways.

I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't mind a free shot at Alli tbh.

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 05:06 PM
That was a cracking shot by Eriksen.

Such control.

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 05:07 PM
Not even goal of the week, unlucky bru.

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 05:09 PM
How did Lloris not save that?

Yevrah
23-12-2018, 05:17 PM
I think they need to avoid the temptation to make him the permanent manager however well he does.

Nail on head with this.

Jimmy Floyd
23-12-2018, 05:25 PM
Spurs are bang in the title race. Best side in the country over the last 6-8 weeks.

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 05:40 PM
No one named 'Oliver Skipp' can make it as a professional footballer.

Baz
23-12-2018, 06:21 PM
Sissoko will end up at a top club soon, surely? At this point he is Kante-for-Leicester levels of importance.

phonics
23-12-2018, 06:22 PM
He's crap, it's just when you don't have to play Eric Dier you look a bit more dynamic.

mugbull
23-12-2018, 06:30 PM
Sissoko is absolutely enormous. Far better than Winks is in that midfield, especially when you’re playing Everton away who aren’t that good but play full blitz anyway

Sir Andy Mahowry
23-12-2018, 06:50 PM
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That's quality.

SincereTheRebel
23-12-2018, 07:46 PM
Hasselbaink would have put it in the top corner. Not impressed.

SvN
24-12-2018, 09:26 AM
Reminds me of the penalties you'd have to take during the 5-a-side tournaments they'd have in then summer.

Shindig
24-12-2018, 04:34 PM
Keeper almost had that. I wouldn't risk that ever again.

Pleb
26-12-2018, 01:41 PM
Nice to see Wolves not bothering to give Fulham a dicking.

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 01:46 PM
At least Ranieri has managed to organise them a bit, but Fulham have so many duds on the pitch. Andre Schurrle looks like he's never played football before and Denis Odoi is having an actual laugh at this level.

Boydy
26-12-2018, 02:03 PM
Stuck a tenner on Wolves just before kick-off so of course this is how it's going. :moop:

Baz
26-12-2018, 02:10 PM
My boy Sess. :cool:

EDIT: hold on boyd!

randomlegend
26-12-2018, 02:31 PM
Manchester United Starting XI vs Huddersfield: De Gea, Dalot, Jones, Lindelof, Shaw, Fred, Matic, Pogba, Mata, Rashford, Lingard

Martial out with food poisoning. Gomes on the bench :drool:

Giggles
26-12-2018, 02:31 PM
That was on for free and all. Only copped now it's over.

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 02:32 PM
I have now made Poggers my fantasy captain, so the narrative had better well hold up.

phonics
26-12-2018, 03:06 PM
Wonder what Sean Dyches excuse for conceding after 2 minutes will be. Probably the refs fault I’m sure.

randomlegend
26-12-2018, 03:16 PM
The difference again between this and a Mourinho performance is absolutely insane.

phonics
26-12-2018, 03:27 PM
Three nil down now. I wonder what message this is sending to children.

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 03:28 PM
Amazing how they have gone from being immense at the back last year to 19th tighest this year.

Baz
26-12-2018, 03:29 PM
Liverpool need six to reach 45 goals for, meaning they’d be halfway towards me winning my “liverpool And city to score 90+ goals” bet.

City were already on 50 before today.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-12-2018, 03:30 PM
Lindelof has been brilliant in these two games.

Lewis
26-12-2018, 03:30 PM
Scoring from a corner seems as miraculous as scoring a decent team goal.

Giggles
26-12-2018, 03:35 PM
This "Pep" cunt is a fucking fraud.

phonics
26-12-2018, 03:36 PM
Amazing how they have gone from being immense at the back last year to 19th tighest this year.

When your entire tactic is ‘let the other team have an immense amount of shots and have the keeper stop the ones that don’t get blocked’ it would be an idea to not have Joe Hart as the keeper.

Trancemeister
26-12-2018, 03:37 PM
Spurs 3-0 Kyle Walker-Peters 3 assists

Bernanke
26-12-2018, 03:48 PM
What is Fred supposed to be good at?

Lewis
26-12-2018, 03:54 PM
I think he is meant to be good sitting in front of the defence and getting it moving, but to the side he seems to get drawn out of position a lot.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-12-2018, 03:56 PM
I've just seen Everton's second.

Absolutely shocking from Joe Hart.

Shindig
26-12-2018, 04:08 PM
As long as Burnley stay down there. Liverpool have us sewn up.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-12-2018, 04:18 PM
De Gea :drool:

randomlegend
26-12-2018, 04:18 PM
De Gea, holy fuck.

Lewis
26-12-2018, 04:19 PM
Without getting too carried away by United being a bit quicker and more attacking, and against rubbish sides at that, Mourinho was moaning about having to coach 'LvG' habits out of them for about eighteen months wasn't he?

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 04:20 PM
Moaning about the last regime is always political. I can't think of a time when it wasn't.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-12-2018, 04:21 PM
That was lovely.

randomlegend
26-12-2018, 04:26 PM
Pogba 3 assists and a goal and the best player in both games since Mourinho left.

Whoever could've guessed.

randomlegend
26-12-2018, 04:28 PM
Hope Gomes gets on.

randomlegend
26-12-2018, 04:34 PM
Another goal for Pogba :)

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-12-2018, 04:35 PM
That finish :drool:

Lewis
26-12-2018, 04:35 PM
Mourinho signings doing the business.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-12-2018, 04:37 PM
Angel Gomes :cool:

Raoul Duke
26-12-2018, 04:37 PM
You gotta beat the shit

Mike
26-12-2018, 04:38 PM
Signing of the season at it again at Anfield.

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 04:39 PM
Guardiola needs the sack. Obligatory fixture congestion whinge on the way.

Sir Andy Mahowry
26-12-2018, 04:43 PM
'Mon Spurs to win it all then.

Lewis
26-12-2018, 04:44 PM
Could do with a comedy Phil Jones mistake here, because any half-decent run of form will inevitably result in twats like him getting new contracts.

Lewis
26-12-2018, 04:46 PM
If Tottenham won the league and then lost their manager their new stadium would just vanish.

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 04:52 PM
Leeds have just taken the absolute fucking piss, winning 3-2 after conceding a 90th minute goal to go 2-1 down. Bielsa and his bucket for PM.

Smjffy
26-12-2018, 05:09 PM
I do hope City don't run away with it...

Spikey M
26-12-2018, 05:12 PM
'Mon Spurs to win it all then.

Steven Gerrard on Ice couldn't slip enough for this to happen

phonics
26-12-2018, 05:51 PM
Wonderful assist from Lichtsteiner.

phonics
26-12-2018, 06:04 PM
This game is being played at a pace so slow I think both sides had a very nice Christmas.

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 06:19 PM
Ozil off at half time, must have realised where he is.

Arsenal now have a midfield, so are just a defence away from being vaguely decent.

Vercetti
26-12-2018, 06:24 PM
Anyone would think Sean Dyche had knifed Phonics' cat, rather than just called out a few plebs for diving.

phonics
26-12-2018, 06:40 PM
Anyone would think Sean Dyche had knifed Phonics' cat, rather than just called out a few plebs for diving.

Nah. Mark Hughes and Mourinho got sacked so he’s just moved up to number 1 in the excuse for why it’s not his fault charts.

phonics
26-12-2018, 06:41 PM
Ozil off at half time, must have realised where he is.

Arsenal now have a midfield, so are just a defence away from being vaguely decent.

Get Maitland-Niles in over Guendouzi.

phonics
26-12-2018, 06:51 PM
A back three featuring a 35 year old right back and Xhaka doesn’t seem very solid.

Jimmy Floyd
26-12-2018, 07:00 PM
As if people are moaning that Arsenal don't want to sink £60/70 million into Aaron Ramsey. I'm sure they could get a similar player for 5-10 million if they looked hard enough.

Baz
26-12-2018, 09:40 PM
Worth noting that Spurs lose Son to the Asia cup in January.

Waffdon
26-12-2018, 09:41 PM
Remove Hazard and Chelsea would have a Top 12 at best frontline. The biggest hardcarry over the last 3/4 years.

Baz
26-12-2018, 10:18 PM
Since Suarez.

Spikey M
26-12-2018, 10:29 PM
Worth noting that Spurs lose Son to the Asia cup in January.

Also worth noting that Poch-era Spurs always have a good mid-season. The wheels will come off in April. Problem is, will Liverpool's too?

Spikey M
26-12-2018, 10:32 PM
What has happened to City? Are patches like this Endemic to Bald Pep? They did this last season around the knock out stages of the Champions League. Properly shit timing this time too.

Shindig
26-12-2018, 10:33 PM
I wonder about Liverpool if they lose Salah for a decent stint. I think they're better equipped to deal with that than they were last season. It'll be interesting to see how Spurs and Liverpool cope with the pressure.

Spikey M
26-12-2018, 10:35 PM
It could be the most beautiful and tragic bottle off in history.

Jimmy Floyd
27-12-2018, 12:14 AM
Remove Hazard and Chelsea would have a Top 12 at best frontline. The biggest hardcarry over the last 3/4 years.

The biggest one man team ever was mid 2000s Togo / Adebayor, but we must be pushing top five at least.

Our midfield is an absolute mess. Jorginho is like watching a car crash in (very) slow motion, Kanté is being told to win the ball ten yards further up the pitch from where the oppo ever have it, and when Willian gets the ball in a dangerous area you might as well just start whistling 'The Cheese Stands Alone' as 'Omar comin'!' echoes around the stadium, such are the blind alleys he creates for himself.

Smjffy
27-12-2018, 03:43 AM
Also worth noting that Poch-era Spurs always have a good mid-season. The wheels will come off in April. Problem is, will Liverpool's too?

Liverpools wheels are meant to have come off last month, no? I'm not going to assume anything until we're at least ten points clear with three games to go.

-james-
27-12-2018, 07:50 AM
Liverpool seem to have hit the form they hit in the second half of last season, only they're about 20 points better off, relative to City, than they were last time. Next weekend is a proper decider, and City appear to have precisely 0 fullbacks remaining.

Magic
27-12-2018, 07:58 AM
Leeds have just taken the absolute fucking piss, winning 3-2 after conceding a 90th minute goal to go 2-1 down. Bielsa and his bucket for PM.

:drool:

Yevrah
27-12-2018, 08:51 AM
Phil Neville banging on about the Man Utd culture on MotD again.

niko_cee
27-12-2018, 09:21 AM
Really thought I'd come in here to see Phonics wanking himself silly over Guendouzi, or whatever he is called.

Torreira really is comically small. Such a little rat in the classic Uruguayan sense as well (so bound to be a fan favourite). Not sure about the midfield of him, Guendouzi and Xhaka. Pretty stodgy. Xhaka does take nice corners though. Well, at least until the last few he hit.

No idea what Aubameyang does for 99% of the game, but he could have had a hattrick but for some excellent saves from Ryan, who is going to be missed.

Emery's halftime changes really didn't work. Even though Ozil was largely anonymous in the first half they were absolute bilge in the second half and Brighton really ought to have won with the chances Propper and March had. Andone should have been on way earlier and hopefully he starts against Everton, with Arsenal's defence towards the end someone with a bit of pace over the top could have murdered them. Someone needs to have a word with Lichsteiner about his boots.

Seeing big Jurgen score a goal in the flesh though, a rare privilege.

Mazuuurk
27-12-2018, 10:01 AM
Yeah for all his previous "supersubbing" this season, Emery seemed absolutely clueless yesterday. I'd really like him to explain the thinking behind the subs.

Baz
27-12-2018, 10:17 AM
I wonder about Liverpool if they lose Salah for a decent stint. I think they're better equipped to deal with that than they were last season. It'll be interesting to see how Spurs and Liverpool cope with the pressure.There is no pressure on Liverpool. The title race is already over.

niko_cee
27-12-2018, 10:40 AM
I saw the bbc website had a breakdown of 'remaining important games' (all of them) and Chelsea (h) in mid-April really jumped out at me.

:uhoh:

Every team is vulnerable to losing a key player. Salah (or Van Dijk/Allison) for Liverpool, Kane for Spurs, Aguero (or apparently Fernandinho) for City, Hazard for Chelsea. I don't think injuries will be decisive unless someone gets a bad one. Liverpool would probably fare worse without either of those defensive players than without Salah.

Baz
27-12-2018, 10:48 AM
If van Dijk goes down, Gomez has it covered.
If Salah dies, we’ve got Shaqiri.
If Alisson gets injured, congrats Pep.

Waffdon
27-12-2018, 11:11 AM
I don’t think anyone being injured would really hurt Liverpool dramatically other than maybe Van Dijk. They’re covered in the forward areas. The league should be over but Champions League football May be the worlds saving grace

Smjffy
27-12-2018, 11:29 AM
League should be over? :-D Get outta it.

mugbull
27-12-2018, 01:10 PM
Kane out injured would suck but it wouldn’t be as bad as Eriksen out

phonics
27-12-2018, 01:10 PM
Really thought I'd come in here to see Phonics wanking himself silly over Guendouzi, or whatever he is called.

Torreira really is comically small. Such a little rat in the classic Uruguayan sense as well (so bound to be a fan favourite). Not sure about the midfield of him, Guendouzi and Xhaka. Pretty stodgy. Xhaka does take nice corners though. Well, at least until the last few he hit.

No idea what Aubameyang does for 99% of the game, but he could have had a hattrick but for some excellent saves from Ryan, who is going to be missed.

Emery's halftime changes really didn't work. Even though Ozil was largely anonymous in the first half they were absolute bilge in the second half and Brighton really ought to have won with the chances Propper and March had. Andone should have been on way earlier and hopefully he starts against Everton, with Arsenal's defence towards the end someone with a bit of pace over the top could have murdered them. Someone needs to have a word with Lichsteiner about his boots.

Seeing big Jurgen score a goal in the flesh though, a rare privilege.

What can I say, I’m an enigma. Hoping we can have more than one centre back involved by the time Liverpool rolls around. Doubt it though.

I also have no idea what Aubameyang does.

-james-
27-12-2018, 01:11 PM
It's a strange thing being top 6 neutral. I've long been a Liverpool sympathiser but now that they've gone favourites I think I'd quite enjoy seeing them buckle.

Jimmy Floyd
27-12-2018, 01:12 PM
I'm trying to think whether Liverpool or Spurs winning the league would be worse. I think probably Liverpool but for a supporter of one of the other London teams, it's a close run thing.

Giggles
27-12-2018, 01:19 PM
Wouldn't count out City yet but Spurs aren't even in the equation.

Kikó
27-12-2018, 02:26 PM
Liverpool will win the league and we will delete this board.

Mazuuurk
27-12-2018, 04:07 PM
What can I say, I’m an enigma. Hoping we can have more than one centre back involved by the time Liverpool rolls around. Doubt it though.

I also have no idea what Aubameyang does.


One thing I did notice in the game yesterday is he does find random wide positions a lot. Like he goes really far out left or right, he seems to be much more mobile than Lacazette for instance.

Waffdon
27-12-2018, 04:51 PM
Liverpool will win the league and we will delete this board.

+1

Giggles
27-12-2018, 04:51 PM
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Bob Sacamano
27-12-2018, 06:02 PM
:drool:

It really is all set up for Hull to do us over and have Adkins bust out a limerick in the post match interview.

randomlegend
27-12-2018, 07:17 PM
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Most combined goals and assists of any midfielder in Europe this season.

Shindig
27-12-2018, 07:36 PM
Form of his life. Can't knock it.

niko_cee
27-12-2018, 08:00 PM
Most combined goals and assists of any midfielder in Europe this season.

Fantasy football disagrees.

randomlegend
27-12-2018, 08:07 PM
Fantasy football disagrees.

I saw it on facebook mate, it's definitely true.

Actually says centre midfielder.

Giggles
27-12-2018, 10:17 PM
Nice one.

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Ian
28-12-2018, 10:34 AM
That's incredible.

Mazuuurk
28-12-2018, 11:51 AM
In Italy, of course.

phonics
28-12-2018, 06:25 PM
Milan will not be signing Gary Cahill after Arsenal have apparently beaten them to the punch :cab:

niko_cee
28-12-2018, 06:33 PM
Do we need a January transfer thread?

Baz
28-12-2018, 06:37 PM
Do we need a January transfer thread?
Yeah.

Expect a big “marquee signing” from at least two of the top six.

phonics
28-12-2018, 06:49 PM
Do we need a January transfer thread?

I think there is one. Search on mobile is bad.

Pleb
28-12-2018, 10:44 PM
Southgate gets an OBE :cool:

Shindig
28-12-2018, 11:13 PM
We have a bus named after him up here. Brilliant.

Waffdon
29-12-2018, 12:01 PM
Celtic’s line up looks pretty shoddy but I still have faith in the tinky Tim’s.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2018, 01:22 PM
Rangers look easily the better side so far.

Who is going to tell Scott Brown he is shite?

Gray Fox
29-12-2018, 01:45 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/ca34790070b6b9cad18cc748fbed908a.png

Waffdon
29-12-2018, 02:11 PM
Rangers look easily the better side so far.

Who is going to tell Scott Brown he is shite?

Celtic can just buy the league now after a disgraceful Summer transfer window thankfully

thommo
29-12-2018, 03:48 PM
Absolute shambles at Fulham today. This game wouldn't look out of place in League 2 or the Conference. We can't string 3 passes together against Huddersfield, and they aren't much better.

It's frustrating to see - yes, we are doing better with regards to the defence, but it's a shame after 2 seasons of really nice attacking, passing football in the Championship to be playing the way we are.

Lewis
29-12-2018, 03:56 PM
Rangers. :cool:

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2018, 04:00 PM
Absolute shambles at Fulham today. This game wouldn't look out of place in League 2 or the Conference. We can't string 3 passes together against Huddersfield, and they aren't much better.

It's frustrating to see - yes, we are doing better with regards to the defence, but it's a shame after 2 seasons of really nice attacking, passing football in the Championship to be playing the way we are.

Much as I love Ranieri, I don't think you should have sacked Jokanovic. You've started every season atrociously under him (god knows why) but it always came together in the second half.

The Premier League is toxic now though, lose 2 games and you're a dead man walking.

thommo
29-12-2018, 04:06 PM
I was caught in two minds at the time of the sacking. We'd just muffed up two big games away at Cardiff and Huddersfield, and we really looked devoid of ideas. But, as you say, both seasons in the Championship, we had fairly incredible runs in the 2nd half of the season, and we played lovely stuff, which was enjoyable to watch.

Claudio is a lovely guy, and has got the defence performing better, but at a big cost to our attacking production. We're playing 5 at the back today, and Callum Chambers in front of the centre backs - against the bottom club. Even if we do manage to stay up, I can't imagine it will be a joy to go and watch us play anymore.

Gray Fox
29-12-2018, 04:41 PM
Yes Wolves!

Giggles
29-12-2018, 04:42 PM
Nice to see Tottenham never change anyway.

"Title challengers? What? Fuuuuuuuck".

Though shame on anyone that ever thought they were in it. I've barely watched a premier league game this season but I know that lot well enough to know they will never contend.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2018, 04:46 PM
I do love it, it's like when Lee Westwood sniffs a Sunday lead in a major.

Shindig
29-12-2018, 05:00 PM
Opportunity missed. We could be right back in the dogfight.

Boydy
29-12-2018, 05:01 PM
Lol at Leicester beating Chelsea and City and then losing at home to Cardiff.

Lewis
29-12-2018, 05:04 PM
lol also at Hull beating Leeds.

phonics
29-12-2018, 05:16 PM
“It’s the history of the Tottenham”

phonics
29-12-2018, 05:20 PM
Iwobi is a bad pick. Funny to see Ramsey back out on the right wing 2 years after Wenger getting cussed out for the same thing.

mugbull
29-12-2018, 05:46 PM
first time in a while i’m hoping for an Arsenal win, but i’d still have a great time if they embarrass themselves

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2018, 05:47 PM
They brought it on themselves with the tweet they did for Maitland-Niles scoring.

Gray Fox
29-12-2018, 05:48 PM
What even just happened?

Waffdon
29-12-2018, 05:48 PM
Iwobi is a bad pick. Funny to see Ramsey back out on the right wing 2 years after Wenger getting cussed out for the same thing.

Wrong.

Arsenal are still a mess

mugbull
29-12-2018, 05:49 PM
first time in a while i’m hoping for an Arsenal win, but i’d still have a great time if they embarrass themselves

This game is a total win-win

phonics
29-12-2018, 05:50 PM
I should have said I don’t rate Leno as well. Didn’t cover all the jinxes.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-12-2018, 06:02 PM
Such pathetic defending.

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:04 PM
What’s the point in having a goalkeeper that doesn’t save shots?

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:06 PM
I know it’s completely pointless wondering about it but should Mane even be on the pitch? If you can’t ‘raise your hands’ at players without risking a red card how can you put two hands on the guys throat?

mugbull
29-12-2018, 06:12 PM
I know it’s completely pointless wondering about it but should Mane even be on the pitch? If you can’t ‘raise your hands’ at players without risking a red card how can you put two hands on the guys throat?

Yeah especially when headbutts are auto reds no matter how lame they are

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-12-2018, 06:15 PM
Sokratis shat himself there.

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:17 PM
Another dive. Stupid challenge though.

Boydy
29-12-2018, 06:18 PM
Another dive. Stupid challenge though.

:happycry:

mugbull
29-12-2018, 06:19 PM
Another dive. Stupid challenge though.

Hahahahahaha

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:19 PM
This is one of those pathetic losses where literally everything they do goes in. This is an 8-2. I knew we’d lose but it’s even worse than I expected. Torreira has been atrocious. Lichtsteiner is showing his years and the keeper haa only saved one shot that was directly at him.

Gray Fox
29-12-2018, 06:21 PM
What's Sokratis even complaining about there?

mugbull
29-12-2018, 06:21 PM
This has been some great television. What i would give for a few more Pool goals in the 2nd half

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:22 PM
What's Sokratis even complaining about there?

That professional athletes legs don’t buckle under them from basic contact.

Spoonsky
29-12-2018, 06:23 PM
:cool:

Arsenal are bad at defending

Luke Emia
29-12-2018, 06:23 PM
I almost let myself get worried by Spurs and the thought they could overturn us(they still might). But my god has there ever been a team anywhere that fold so massively when there is even the half chance of them doing something?

Mike
29-12-2018, 06:24 PM
Boss this!
And 8-2 Phonics? We don’t let two in over a month let alone a match ;) :lol:

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:24 PM
My only hope is that this goes full Sevilla but they could actually defend rather than spending their time throwing custard pies at each other.

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-12-2018, 06:24 PM
Phonics is having a mare.

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:26 PM
There’s a guy wearing an arsenal shirt that says ‘Alli’ on the back which confuses me until I saw a custom number on it. An unfortunate surname in the circumstance.

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:27 PM
Phonics is having a mare.

In what sense? It’s a stupid challenge to make because it gives the ref no option. It’s still not enough to actually cause a player to go down.

Cheddar
29-12-2018, 06:30 PM
Another dive. Stupid challenge though.

Stonewall.

Ian
29-12-2018, 06:34 PM
So I was on the train home reading my book (because I'm cool) and then one of a trio of drunken Rangers fans on their way back from the Old Firm game asks me, "How's yer book, big yin?"

I'll spare you the blow-by-blow but other than me quelling the urge to say "Good until about 3 seconds ago, douchebag" here are the highlights:

- Discussing the book I'm reading (it's a fantasy novel, which is relevant to a later part of the story.)

- The above led onto one of the three (I forget his name) telling me that you're as well reading fantasy books because THE WORLD IS ALL LIES anyway.

- This caused the three to have a brief discussion between the three of what they can and / or do read, and one saying he asked for a David Icke book for Christmas. I asked if he literally believes all of Icke's conspiracies including the bit about lizards. "Weeeeeeeeell...... no' lit'rally, but it's mostly true."

At this point, having had a lovely chat about lizards, the Matrix and 9/11, one of them thrusts a bottle of Buckfast at me and says, "Want a drink, Gandalf?"

I couldn't think of a better thread for this and it involves football fans so whatever.

Boydy
29-12-2018, 06:37 PM
"Want a drink, Gandalf?"



:lol:

Mike
29-12-2018, 06:41 PM
You had a swig right?

Ian
29-12-2018, 06:41 PM
I mean I'm lacking the beard so the line was a bit wasted but it was appreciated all the same.


You had a swig right?

Of Buckfast? No. I've not tried it yet in my 15 years up here and I'm prepared to hold out for longer.

I tried a pizza crunch for the first time this year, that'll do me for the next little while.

Giggles
29-12-2018, 06:44 PM
Scottish buckfast isn't bad at all. Never ever drink the Irish stuff though.

Boydy
29-12-2018, 06:51 PM
They're different?

Ian
29-12-2018, 06:52 PM
I didn't know it was even drunk in Ireland.

niko_cee
29-12-2018, 06:53 PM
That's soft but Kolasinac is such a fucking idiot. He really needs to cut out the diving as well, he's terrible at it.

phonics
29-12-2018, 06:54 PM
Has Jurgen been training them on diving or something?

How does the ref literally see one player strangle another but that’s a penalty.

niko_cee
29-12-2018, 06:55 PM
I think "if some idiot puts their hands on you in the area you fall over" is professional footballer 101 these days.

Foe
29-12-2018, 06:56 PM
Scottish buckfast isn't bad at all. Never ever drink the Irish stuff though.

This is wrong. Scottish buckfast is definitely bad.

mugbull
29-12-2018, 06:57 PM
5-1 isn’t a flattering scoreline anyway, Arsenal haven’t been in it since minute 12

Ian
29-12-2018, 07:04 PM
Lads, we're talking about Bucky here. Wind it in.

Giggles
29-12-2018, 07:05 PM
They're different?

Yeah I remember having to bring bottles down from Armagh to mates back home. I did it the opposite way too for a couple of lads in work and they never asked again. It's like treacle compared to your stuff, and that's sweet and thick enough to begin with.

Boydy
29-12-2018, 07:05 PM
Has Jurgen been training them on diving or something?


:D

lol

Giggles
29-12-2018, 07:07 PM
I didn't know it was even drunk in Ireland.

Wouldn't be near as popular here as with our northern cousins. Here it's more of a thing that you drink beside a stream when you're 16 to get fucked up as quickly and cheaply as possible. Up there you'd regularly see people get a glass in the pub and it's easily the night out pre drink of choice.

Then again it really is shit here so consumption might be more similar if it wasn't

Gray Fox
29-12-2018, 07:13 PM
Waiting for the Phonics opinion on that Lacazette dive.

Boydy
29-12-2018, 07:13 PM
Yeah I remember having to bring bottles down from Armagh to mates back home. I did it the opposite way too for a couple of lads in work and they never asked again. It's like treacle compared to your stuff, and that's sweet and thick enough to begin with.

So is the Northern Irish one the same as the Scottish one and it's the (southern) Irish one that's different?

Giggles
29-12-2018, 07:14 PM
So is the Northern Irish one the same as the Scottish one and it's the (southern) Irish one that's different?

Yeah, because it's differing regulations between Ireland and the UK on what can go in it (caffeine content, etc).

mugbull
29-12-2018, 07:15 PM
That one was actually a dive. Phonics, take notes

Boydy
29-12-2018, 07:16 PM
Yeah, because it's differing regulations between Ireland and the UK on what can go in it (caffeine content, etc).

I see. In that case, the UK one is rank. Never tried the Irish one.

Giggles
29-12-2018, 07:17 PM
I see. In that case, the UK one is rank. Never tried the Irish one.

It's ranker.

-james-
29-12-2018, 07:21 PM
Buckfast is great. It all comes from Devon, doesn't it? How does Ireland end up with a different product?

Sir Andy Mahowry
29-12-2018, 07:24 PM
J Chester: Two pens not given for Arsenal. Two dives given for Liverpool, one possible offside goal, untold amounts of dives an fouls given in favour of Liverpool. This isn't right, this is just outrageously poor officiating.

Alright Phonics...

Giggles
29-12-2018, 07:24 PM
Buckfast is great. It all comes from Devon, doesn't it?

Yep, originally anyway. Seen signs for the abbey heading down through Devon in the summer, had meant to go visit.
I think it's made in a factory now somewhere there but I'm not sure where.

niko_cee
29-12-2018, 07:31 PM
J Chester: Two pens not given for Arsenal. Two dives given for Liverpool, one possible offside goal, untold amounts of dives an fouls given in favour of Liverpool. This isn't right, this is just outrageously poor officiating.

Alright Phonics...

Mantralux will be along shortly to adjust the result accordingly.

phonics
29-12-2018, 07:35 PM
Waiting for the Phonics opinion on that Lacazette dive.

Lol thank god I had to leave for a family event at 7.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2018, 07:38 PM
Liverpool are not only winning the league but doing so with easily a record margin and record points total. Unquestionably this country's finest ever club side.

Spoonsky
29-12-2018, 07:43 PM
Jan 3rd is MASSIVE. Liverpool get a result and I think they’ll win the title.

This is the best I’ve ever seen Liverpool play though.

Jimmy Floyd
29-12-2018, 07:48 PM
Does 'Pep' have any sort of history of responding to adversity within a season? I can't think that he does, his sides are usually either 30 points clear or just crumble to dust / 3rd.

Smjffy
29-12-2018, 08:56 PM
Brilliant performance, brilliant result. On to City.

Still not going to get carried away as hard as it is. Please let this be the year.

Spikey M
29-12-2018, 08:59 PM
Liverpool are, absolutely disgustingly good at the moment and the longer it goes on the more extreme the bottle job would need to be. I can't see past them winning it and I am going to have to give up on football.

Lewis
29-12-2018, 10:03 PM
As if Webly says 'douchebag' irl like some teenage girl. :o

Manc
29-12-2018, 10:04 PM
Alpine Klopp to do a job tommorrow.

niko_cee
29-12-2018, 10:16 PM
Anyway, other Big Jurgen (he's probably not actually as big) keeps on rolling with a SECOND league goal. Holy smokes.

Everton were absolutely dreadful, epitomised by Richarlison, the moaning, injury feigning twat. Such a dull and ponderous side and really makes you wonder just how bad Burnley must be to have taken a pasting off them. Probably showed Brighton too much respect in going with 5 defenders and 2 midfield cloggers, they looked much better as a back 4 with Sigurdsson on the pitch.

mo
29-12-2018, 10:30 PM
Jacques Santini was apparently at Vale Park today and is linked with the Oldham job :cab: .

Ian
29-12-2018, 10:39 PM
As if Webly says 'douchebag' irl like some teenage girl. :o

I don't say anything untoward to groups of people on the train, teenage girl-y or otherwise.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 11:32 AM
Only just seen this lol load of whining shit from 'Poch' yesterday:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/28/mauricio-pochettino-do-not-disrespect-spurs-title-race-like/

Wolves obviously didn't get the memo.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 12:13 PM
Alonso booked for kicking the ball away because his mate gave him a shit pass. Even for him that is retarded.

Waffdon
30-12-2018, 12:49 PM
Poor Eden Hazard :(

Get Emerson and Kovacic on.

Spikey M
30-12-2018, 12:53 PM
Only just seen this lol load of whining shit from 'Poch' yesterday:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/28/mauricio-pochettino-do-not-disrespect-spurs-title-race-like/

Wolves obviously didn't get the memo.

It's a bit rich talking about professionalism when the response to the comments was to get every player booked, get fined and fuck up a 2 goal advantage.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 12:57 PM
That was a genuinely eye-bleeding 45 minutes. Sarri is a terrible coach. He has no plan B whatsoever and no ability to adapt within a game.

Waffdon
30-12-2018, 01:08 PM
Kante’s smile :wub:

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 01:09 PM
N'golo and his inside forward runs saving the day, it's almost laughable.

mugbull
30-12-2018, 01:14 PM
Zaha == Trippie Redd

Waffdon
30-12-2018, 01:21 PM
Chelsea need a left footed player desperately in midfield.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 01:29 PM
Chelsea need a left footed player desperately in midfield.

Everything points to Pulisic at the moment so we can celebrate another midget cutting in on his right.

Also lol at us selling Callum Hudson-Odoi to Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich, ffs. It's like selling your first born to the Waffen SS.

Waffdon
30-12-2018, 01:31 PM
He’s an upgrade at least. Poor Giroud - two cracking finishes.

Baz
30-12-2018, 02:08 PM
Zaha == Trippie Redd
I think that’s a reference that is lost on this board.

-james-
30-12-2018, 02:37 PM
Has David Silva dyed his hair?

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 02:38 PM
Has David Silva dyed his hair?

I think he might have had a transplant/weave, which in spite of Lewis's bizarre phobia are the worst things a man can do. Vanity.

mugbull
30-12-2018, 02:46 PM
I think that’s a reference that is lost on this board.

Not on u though bud :charm:

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 02:53 PM
Poor old Zinchenko coming a cropper but staying true to the principles of the reverse rábbito position, this is my philosophy.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 03:03 PM
City absolutely robbing this (Binchenko gave away a clear pen) but thank the lord they are. I was beginning to think Liverpool were going to go in with a 9/10 point lead.

Smjffy
30-12-2018, 03:06 PM
Still hoping for a 3-3.

On a serious note, this Southampton fella has already made Mark Hughes look as shit as Mark Hughes is.

Lewis
30-12-2018, 03:12 PM
I think he might have had a transplant/weave, which in spite of Lewis's bizarre phobia are the worst things a man can do. Vanity.

If you are young and have the money it makes sense, but these geezers having them in middle age should let it go.

Giggles
30-12-2018, 03:22 PM
Just seen the Chelsea score. If you were going by JF here you'd think they went down 3-0.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 03:32 PM
It was an awful game/performance but luckily a) Palace are shit and b) football is just about finding one finish during the 90, which the little scamp did.

Lewis
30-12-2018, 03:54 PM
It feels weird to be looking forward to watching routine United games again. The big games were exciting under 'LvG', and briefly under Mourinho, but fucking hell week-to-week I have barely been arsed in years.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 04:16 PM
All this mythical shite about 'The United Way' is all getting a bit West Ham. They won titles by grinding it the fuck out, not being the Harlem Globetrotters.

Lewis
30-12-2018, 04:28 PM
A nice trade-off, if Smallpockets BOTTLES IT, would be to keep Ole Gunnar Binman in position but flush every other legacy appointment/association out. David Beckham can still come to games, because he had a go elsewhere, but Ryan Giggs and that get eternal stadium bans.

Magic
30-12-2018, 04:34 PM
Rashford captain. :cool:

Bloody hell nice assist.

Sir Andy Mahowry
30-12-2018, 04:34 PM
Rashford :drool:

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 04:35 PM
There goes classic Manchester United again, kicking the ball into the goal. The magic of Old Trafford.

Lewis
30-12-2018, 04:36 PM
Those Special Domestic Afternoons at Old Trafford.

randomlegend
30-12-2018, 04:45 PM
Shitty old Pogba with 3 goals and 3 assists in 2 games and 15 minutes since Mourinho left.

Waffdon
30-12-2018, 04:47 PM
Who are you arguing with? Giggles? Nice.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 04:48 PM
Pogba's ability has never been in question, his being a fairweather, lazy turncoat wanker has.

mugbull
30-12-2018, 04:48 PM
Can't imagine anything worse than a stable and successful Manchester United again

randomlegend
30-12-2018, 04:50 PM
Pogba's ability has never been in question, his being a fairweather, lazy turncoat wanker has.

Except his attitude had never been in question under anyone except Mourinho, a man who's fallen out with star players at every club he's ever managed. Wonder who's likely to be to blame.

Lewis
30-12-2018, 04:52 PM
Him and all the other fannies.

Jimmy Floyd
30-12-2018, 04:59 PM
This is the third successive game against a side who have spent a good portion of my lifetime in the fourth tier, let's see if he is still doing silly dances if and when the serious games come around.