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Dark Soldier
10-06-2018, 10:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X2kIfS6fb8

Get it into my fucking veins

Adramelch
10-06-2018, 10:18 PM
Apparently they've had more people working on this than they had on Witcher 3 and we all know how good that game was. Can't wait.

ItalAussie
11-06-2018, 12:24 AM
So is the idea here to take the Witcher and move it into the future?

When you're on a good thing.

Ian
11-06-2018, 06:43 AM
Want.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/11/cyberpunk-2077-e3-trailer-hidden-message/

Love CDPR.

John
11-06-2018, 07:19 AM
Yes. Yes to all of that.

Bernanke
11-06-2018, 08:04 AM
Complete character creator. :drool: I'm gonna be that corporate suit-guy in my first playthrough, and the netrunner girl in my second. :drool:

https://i.redd.it/44cp3qnfc9311.jpg

:drool:

Pepe
11-06-2018, 11:57 AM
Coming out for Switch? :eyemouth:

Dark Soldier
11-06-2018, 05:37 PM
hahahahahahahaha

Shindig
11-06-2018, 08:52 PM
I'm going to create a character as close to a present day type as I can. And play it like it's a reverse Life on Mars.

Mike
11-06-2018, 09:54 PM
Looks amazing

Ian
13-06-2018, 06:24 PM
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-06-13-we-watched-50-minutes-of-uncut-cyberpunk-2077-gameplay-and-interviewed-cd-projekt-about-it

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/13/cyberpunk-2077-e3-gameplay-demo/

Hurry up and let me fling my money at you.

Bernanke
13-06-2018, 09:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OinRDzEbqXc

Ian
15-06-2018, 08:16 PM
Saw a one-line comment about that Bernanke. Pretty cool.

Pleb
15-06-2018, 08:57 PM
I want this game.

Ian
27-08-2018, 05:27 PM
The gameplay demo is apparently being streamed in Twitch right now. Gonna have to catch this later.

Mike
27-08-2018, 05:43 PM
It looks so good

https://www.twitch.tv/cdprojektred

Ian
27-08-2018, 06:12 PM
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/302423092

The stream's done so that's the link to the video, once you skip the first 9 hours or so.

Raoul Duke
27-08-2018, 08:12 PM
That looks amazing :drool:

Ian
27-08-2018, 10:02 PM
I need this fucking game. I knew that before I watched the video but now...

Ian
23-05-2019, 10:11 AM
*blows dust off the thread*

Attention! CDPR will be at E3 in the public zone with Cyberpunk 2077. Which means, presumably, some small chunk of it will be playable for normos.

Hopefully this means the game isn't too far away. A man can dream.

EDIT: God damn it.

CDPR say it won't be playable for normos, the public zone thing is for gameplay presentations for the public. Which is good-ish news I guess.

*sob*

phonics
23-05-2019, 07:01 PM
Going off scuttlebutt, it was at E3 judges week so I imagine there's a playable demo out there but the plebs won't get their hands on it.

Mike
09-06-2019, 08:29 PM
April 16th 2020
1137817378958348289

Ian
09-06-2019, 09:27 PM
That's too long. :(

Even for CyberKeanu.

Raoul Duke
09-06-2019, 09:43 PM
John Wick 2077 :cool:

Ian
20-06-2019, 08:40 AM
So after the E3 demo RPS and others had criticised it with issues they perceived regarding transphobia and that one of the predominantly black gangs is called "The Animals." Which given CDPR's record with not being a bit backwards on some of these things, y'know, maybe there's a case to be made.

Until Mike Pondsmith responded to some questions about that, rumours he's been sidelined in development, etc. with:

If I wasn't heavily involved, I would be able to get more done. As it is, I barely have a life.

As for the Animals--the WHOLE FREAKING POINT is that they think of themselves as POWERFUL, DANGEROUS, WILD ANIMALS. You'd have thought the Lady named "Sasquatch" would have given them a clue.

The original Voodoo Boys were a scathing commentary on cultural appropriation. I LOVE the idea that real practicioners of Voudon moved in and took back their turf. And they even got the Creole right!

Who the (bleep) do YOU think you are to tell ME whether or not MY creation was done right or not?

phonics
20-06-2019, 09:35 AM
I thought the transpohbic thing was an absolute reach and a clear sign that people were clearly trying to just find another stick to beat people they didn't like with.

Ian
20-06-2019, 09:50 AM
With specific regard to this particular internet furore I'd agree it was people think-of-the-children-ing over very little.

The problem (I was going to say 'unfortunately' but it's a problem of their own making) is that CDPR and GOG have form for trying to use both anti-transgender and pro-transgender memes, etc. for an ill-judged laugh.

phonics
20-06-2019, 10:04 AM
Yeah exactly. They deserve people not liking 'them' in general but this is ridiculous.

https://i.imgur.com/dg89B78.png

Look at this absolute weapon.

Ian
20-06-2019, 10:24 AM
Fucking hell.

Raoul Duke
20-06-2019, 10:23 PM
It's just dickheads wanting to be offended

Pharad
01-07-2019, 06:34 AM
I'm pre-ordering (https://www.eneba.com/us/gog-cyberpunk-2077-gog-com-key) the **** out of this :D as a side note, it was supper clever of CDPR to reveal Keanu just as everyone was talking about John Wick 3. Perfect timing.

phonics
01-07-2019, 08:35 AM
This bot is incredible.

Ian
02-07-2019, 12:47 PM
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/07/cyberpunk_2077_will_have_three_different_playable_ prologues

Reminds me of Dragon Age. :drool:

Ian
21-08-2019, 12:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0cB-odvO5U

Don't give a shit about Stadia but I'll take all the gameplay footage I can cram into my eyes, even if it's only 25 seconds or whatever.

I believe we're due more from PAX West in a couple of weeks.

Raoul Duke
21-08-2019, 07:24 PM
Looks mega :drool:

Ian
22-08-2019, 01:04 PM
We're getting a 15 minute cut of whatever the journos are being shown, apparently. Have to wait until next Friday though. :(

Ian
23-08-2019, 04:43 PM
Interview with Mike Pondsmith too:
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/23/cyberpunk-creator-mike-pondsmith-on-turning-his-tabletop-game-into-cyberpunk-2077/

Mike
31-08-2019, 09:37 AM
https://youtu.be/FknHjl7eQ6o

Ian
31-08-2019, 11:07 AM
Only thing I'm not convinced about based on the trailers so far is the combat but I'll probably be oing some stealthy netrunnering so I probably won't do that much out and out firefighting anyway.

Aside from when shit goes wrong.

Pleb
02-09-2019, 01:39 PM
Wonder if this will be open world?

If so :drool:

Ian
02-09-2019, 02:54 PM
It's an open chunk of city. That's been a significant part of the marketing.

Boydy
21-09-2019, 05:17 PM
1175442953155878912

:lol:

Ian
23-09-2019, 06:42 AM
:face:

Gray Fox
17-01-2020, 01:43 AM
Looks like this is being pushed back to 17th September now.

You'd assume this is good news overall as more time means better chance of more quality. I'm just hoping it's not to try and tie in to the new consoles.

Ian
17-01-2020, 07:31 AM
Witcher 3 had a bunch of delays, right? I have faith.

Raoul Duke
17-01-2020, 07:55 PM
It's just being honest - a lot of places would have shipped it then put out a bunch of patches. They've done the right thing and it'll be a better game for it.

Ian
17-01-2020, 08:44 PM
I hope their staff are looking forward to five months of crunch.

Mazuuurk
21-01-2020, 02:05 PM
Reminds me of this old meme

https://pics.ballmemes.com/dont-do-games-kids-marcin-lwinski-cd-projekt-red-ceo-5147740.png

bruhnaldo
24-01-2020, 04:49 PM
Feel like there's no chance this meets expectation.

Mike
25-06-2020, 04:00 PM
About to be a live stream of this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AePkuNf_53I&feature=youtu.be

Ian
25-06-2020, 04:03 PM
Yeah I'll be watching it after like a sensible person and skipping all the bullshit.

Raoul Duke
25-06-2020, 10:04 PM
Trailer


https://youtu.be/ixl31324UxE

Walkthrough of some of the features/mechanics


https://youtu.be/rjgFi8szvpk

Ian
26-06-2020, 06:33 AM
Nothing I saw really altered my feelings about the game. Still want it but that didn't make me more or less hyped.

Lofty
01-07-2020, 10:52 AM
There's a lot of clowns crying some stuff has been taken out of the game, they seem to want Star Citizen levels of feature creep that mean we never get the finished product.

Ian
01-07-2020, 11:00 AM
What sort of stuff?

Raoul Duke
10-08-2020, 09:30 PM
:drool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do51eJowSyg

Ian
10-08-2020, 09:32 PM
I'm still not convinced by the look of the gunplay, but it's the bit of the game I'm least interested in so whatever.

Raoul Duke
10-08-2020, 09:33 PM
Who cares about guns when you can walk around with swords for arms

Raoul Duke
18-09-2020, 08:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_urbl-2gV4

https://www.nightcity.love

Gray Fox
27-10-2020, 04:59 PM
Delayed once more. December 10th now.

Raoul Duke
27-10-2020, 05:04 PM
FFS :( time to reschedule my Annual Leave

Ian
27-10-2020, 05:10 PM
I had taken some days off for next month but I've still got a fair bit to use and I can't take any more at Christmas so I think I'll just keep the long weekend next month and have another in December.

Sir Andy Mahowry
27-10-2020, 05:17 PM
I've cancelled my pre-order.

Might as well ask for it for Christmas now.

Spammer
03-11-2020, 12:54 AM
Gutted at this.

Gonna be :drool: though.

Raoul Duke
17-11-2020, 09:54 PM
Some Xbox gameplay footage here. Looks great.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yQ--nrwy5w

Hollie :wub:

Gray Fox
17-11-2020, 10:25 PM
Looks stunning.

The game looks good too.

Ian
18-11-2020, 08:07 AM
The open combat still looks pretty duff but I'll be avoiding that as much as possible so whatever.

Shindig
18-11-2020, 09:11 AM
I might be starting to go off the cyberpunk aesthetic. I don't want future 80's. I want future 2020's.

Ian
18-11-2020, 09:19 AM
Yeah I mean Cyberpunk looks super pretty but there's also no one thing about it that I've not seen elsewhere. Which is fine, but by contrast I'm playing Torment: Tides of Numenera at the moment and the Numenera setting (from a TTRPG I think) is more interesting than anything else I've played in ages.

Raoul Duke
19-11-2020, 08:24 PM
Fuck :drool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8lX3hDU30

Mike
19-11-2020, 08:54 PM
Yeah... Looks good!

Spammer
02-12-2020, 09:49 PM
A week tomorrow :drool:

Ian
02-12-2020, 10:14 PM
I'm going to lol if having taken a couple of days off the reviews bomb and I don't wanna pay full price anyway.

The IGN hands on seemed positive though.

Shindig
02-12-2020, 11:05 PM
It's not on my radar, even though I'm probably miles off getting a PS5. I'll probably play Witcher 3 instead. I bloody should.

John Arne
03-12-2020, 06:47 AM
Is coming out on PC, too?

John Arne
03-12-2020, 06:54 AM
It is, yes.

Ian
07-12-2020, 09:52 PM
Reviews are coming up for this. Ranging from middling to very good from a skim.

Raoul Duke
07-12-2020, 10:22 PM
Yeah, the majority are basically: "9/10 but buggy". Lots of great feedback on the story/ambience which is the main thing I'm interested in (well, that and the dong customisation)

Shindig
07-12-2020, 10:48 PM
Jeff Gerstmann wasn't too kind to it. I don't know if he was expecting more but he said it tonally felt off. Like a GTA clone of old with not a lot of character to the world. I'm not jumping into it when I've still got the Witchers to play. That's one thing that probably goes against it: The Witcher fiction was really well done whereas cyberpunk is usually the same tropes trotted out.

Ian
07-12-2020, 11:00 PM
Yeah I mean with all the delays and whatnot I stopped feeling too hyped for it a while back but there's nothing I'm seeing to out me off buying. I imagine the worst reviews were expecting more, the best are probably still high on the hype and I imagine the truth is probably it's a 7 or 8/10 game. We'll see though, if the writing / characters / setting are good that'll go a long way for me.

Shindig
08-12-2020, 12:53 PM
There's other little things as well. Like, they've given prominence to a Trans character but some LGBT guys are pissed that the game offers you binary genders. :D

Jacking into cyberspace gives you a cutscene that replicates an EEG strobe. To the point where it's potentially seizure inducing.

Ian
08-12-2020, 12:57 PM
It does seem odd to me that they've not allowed the pronoun options as well given gender isn't set based on the body you choose. I'd be surprised if that isn't patched in at some point.

The epilepsy thing is mental though, dunno how that's made it through.

Raoul Duke
08-12-2020, 09:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnA7tepsc7s

Also: pre-load is done. It's just sitting there on my PS4 :cry:

Spammer
09-12-2020, 09:47 AM
:drool:

Mike
09-12-2020, 01:47 PM
Simply Games have posted mine

Shindig
09-12-2020, 04:31 PM
Looks like Outside Xtra's stream of this has to end early because her tits clip through her clothes. :|

Baz
10-12-2020, 07:50 AM
So is it any good?

Spammer
10-12-2020, 08:34 AM
Dunno, can't get it. Too many leeches for it to download properly.

Apparently there was like a million people playing it within a couple of hours, which apparently is a bit mad. Could be the biggest game ever.

I'm gonna wait a couple of days, maybe wait for Fitgirl to release their version as that's where I usually get my shit from. Hopefully I'll have the weekend to smash it.

Reviews suggest it's good but you need a good rig to handle it.

Ian
10-12-2020, 08:55 AM
I'm going in.

Yevrah
10-12-2020, 09:00 AM
Is there only one version of it?

Xbox store seems to just have one for £49.99, which is reasonable enough for me to go in too.

Baz
10-12-2020, 09:24 AM
Dunno, can't get it. Too many leeches for it to download properly.

Apparently there was like a million people playing it within a couple of hours, which apparently is a bit mad. Could be the biggest game ever.

I'm gonna wait a couple of days, maybe wait for Fitgirl to release their version as that's where I usually get my shit from. Hopefully I'll have the weekend to smash it.

Reviews suggest it's good but you need a good rig to handle it.Its only £20 if you pretend you’re Russian, fwiw.

Gray Fox
10-12-2020, 10:43 AM
Is there only one version of it?

Xbox store seems to just have one for £49.99, which is reasonable enough for me to go in too.

No next-gen upgrade until 2021 at least.

Yevrah
10-12-2020, 12:40 PM
Cool. Bit the bullet and I'm downloading to play tonight.

Mazuuurk
10-12-2020, 12:59 PM
Where are you all playing? PS4?

Once I finish Horizon Zero Dawn I'm probably going to get on this. But it'll have to be after Christmas I think.

Raoul Duke
10-12-2020, 01:17 PM
I'm on a base PS4. It's been great (albeit with a few crashes). Slow to start opening up and very much RPG rather than shooter. The world is fantastic, as are most of the characters I've met so far. Braindances are a cool mechanic.

What are people playing as? I've gone with a Corpo chick, emphasis on stealth/hacking/tech weapons, although starting out with a couple of QOL upgrades for extra health.

Ian
10-12-2020, 01:22 PM
I'm not very far in yet because I was being very nosey during the all the tutorial bits. Playing nomad lady, looking go to stealth/hacky.

Most importantly I have a nice trilby / jacket combo.

I've barely had any technical issues. One quest wouldn't complete so I had to do a restart but other than some very minor graphical and audio bugs three or four times it's been fine and no crashes.

Dark Soldier
10-12-2020, 02:41 PM
Im running at 1440p, high/ultra, ray tracing on ultra and performance DLSS. Solid 60fps and it looks fucking beautiful.

Plays really well and is all I've wanted so far. Writing and flow is great. One minor bug of an NPC sitting floating, aside from that been fine.

Like Ian I went Nomad. Every fucker seems to be Corpo.

Yevrah
10-12-2020, 03:31 PM
What difficulty are people playing on and what would you suggest?

Dark Soldier
10-12-2020, 03:35 PM
What difficulty are people playing on and what would you suggest?

I'm on Hard, but M&K so aiming etc is easier.

Yevrah
10-12-2020, 03:36 PM
Cheers. M&K?

P_3
10-12-2020, 03:42 PM
Mouse and keyboard.

Mike
10-12-2020, 03:43 PM
Simply Games have posted mine

Still not arrived :(

Sir Andy Mahowry
10-12-2020, 03:53 PM
Someone will hopefully get it for me for Christmas or I'll be buying it right after.

P_3
10-12-2020, 04:45 PM
I'll probably wait for the 2021 next gen version seeing as its unlikely I'll be getting a PS5 anytime this year.

Dark Soldier
10-12-2020, 04:47 PM
Its shocking on base PS4 tbf

https://youtu.be/da3CvVujZmI

Sir Andy Mahowry
10-12-2020, 04:58 PM
I'll probably wait for the 2021 next gen version seeing as its unlikely I'll be getting a PS5 anytime this year.

The current versions come with a free next gen upgrade.

P_3
10-12-2020, 05:04 PM
I don't have a PS4, so will probably buy a cheap PS4 version when I get the PS5 for the upgrade.

Yevrah
10-12-2020, 07:10 PM
We're on!

https://www.twitch.tv/chemicallocust

Xbox One X version.

Ian
10-12-2020, 07:57 PM
Mouse and keyboard.

My analysis of this so far is that it's nothing groundbreaking but I am really enjoying it because it's very much my sort of thing. Nice options for approaching missions and combat, the braindances are fun for investigation (albeit based on the first one seem rather Arkham-y and fall well short of the standard for this sort of thing which has now been set by Obra Dinn), good characters, well written and Night City is great from what I've seen so far.

The driving is awful though. Like trying to wrestle a greased pig.


Like Ian I went Nomad. Every fucker seems to be Corpo.

I can see why people find that an interesting start but can't be doing that on my first playthrough.

phonics
10-12-2020, 08:33 PM
I’m going to get a new rig over Christmas so I’m waiting. However, Something my friend brought up that did surprise me, after them taking multiple news cycles worth of attacks for being both pro and anti trans and explaining it with ‘we want to empower people to be who they are’. My heavier friend finding out he couldn’t even be slightly overweight let alone fat annoyed him a lot.

Shindig
10-12-2020, 08:46 PM
But they have so many pube options.

Raoul Duke
10-12-2020, 08:51 PM
Cyberplump 2077

Sir Andy Mahowry
10-12-2020, 08:59 PM
Cyberpeen 2077:

1336696420699660288

Boydy
11-12-2020, 12:07 AM
1336880900491997186

Yevrah
11-12-2020, 12:10 AM
Played three and a half hours of it so far and some early observations:

A cursor for the menus on a console game? Abysmal idea.
The first couple of hours are poor and the game does a piss poor job of introducing you to the city.
It's got better since then and has had some moments where I've felt genuinely immersed, so I'm still hopeful it'll be a cracking game.

phonics
11-12-2020, 01:56 AM
Played three and a half hours of it so far and some early observations:

A cursor for the menus on a console game? Abysmal idea.
The first couple of hours are poor and the game does a piss poor job of introducing you to the city.
It's got better since then and has had some moments where I've felt genuinely immersed, so I'm still hopeful it'll be a cracking game.

1) Relatively common
2) Prologue (5hours or so) specifically doesnt want you to learn the city

Yevrah
11-12-2020, 02:01 AM
1) Is it, is it really? Where? And even if it is, it's still shite.
2) Is it obvious when I'm out of the prologue? The game seems like it's opened up now and I'm only 3.5 hours in.

Sir Andy Mahowry
11-12-2020, 02:03 AM
Ubisoft has been using it for ages although I agree, it's shite.

Yevrah
11-12-2020, 02:05 AM
I thought Ubisoft used it on main menus, but once in the game they pulled back a bit. I stand corrected if not.

It's everywhere in Cyberpunk though, facking everywhere.

phonics
11-12-2020, 02:05 AM
1) Is it, is it really? Where? And even if it is, it's still shite.
2) Is it obvious when I'm out of the prologue? The game seems like it's opened up now and I'm only 3.5 hours in.

1) All ubisoft games, Destiny, No mans sky, Deus Ex, loads of others. Witcher inventory was way worse. Just to note, this is one of the few games where PC players outnumber consoles.
2)According to my friend there's quite literally a late title card with the Cyberpunk logo.

Baz
11-12-2020, 08:05 AM
1) Why are we doing numbered lists
2) When there are only two points to address?

Mazuuurk
11-12-2020, 09:02 AM
How else are you going to tell the two points apart? Lunatic.

Ian
11-12-2020, 09:21 AM
I disagree on the opening. Certainly for the nomad I liked it. Night City starting way off in the distance, you go through the corpo bureaucracy shit and then get a lovely night-drive through the city before that montage. I'm surprised, but not unhappy, that they didn't drag that out a bit longer to be honest. And having the City be something I learn more about as I go is good for me. Show, don't tell.

Raoul Duke
11-12-2020, 11:40 AM
I disagree on the opening. Certainly for the nomad I liked it. Night City starting way off in the distance, you go through the corpo bureaucracy shit and then get a lovely night-drive through the city before that montage. I'm surprised, but not unhappy, that they didn't drag that out a bit longer to be honest. And having the City be something I learn more about as I go is good for me. Show, don't tell.

This is how I feel about a lot of the use of tech terminology/slang - rather than spoon-feed it to me I have to follow it and learn as I go. The world exists without me and I'm not the superhero that everything revolves around, which feels great.

Also, this feels far more RPG than Fallout 4, say - already I feel like I've branched off in multiple ways from due to the decisions I've made and I've frequently come into situations where either my life path or the skills I've picked have made a difference on how I've got through a section and what options are available to me.

One example on the above: I went to meet some guy (fat South African (?) thug who runs some kinda sex emporium) and I initially got into a fight with him and ended up getting killed by him. I approached it differently once I'd respawned and took a different route, used my stealth/hacking skills to break into their security system and get some evidence to leverage against him. Didn't even get into a fight and he ended up nicely showing me out.

wullie
11-12-2020, 11:55 AM
I noticed a cursor on the main menu of Assassins Creed Odyssey, I think that's the first time I've encountered that on a console. Thought it was a bug at first

Ian
11-12-2020, 02:47 PM
Also, this feels far more RPG than Fallout 4, say

Fallout is barely an RPG these days. It's a shooter with some turn-based action and stats.

I just did the early-ish quest where you have to get the robot. I was hoping to get through it without a shootout. It did not go well.

EDIT: Actually that's not entirely true. I mean I did have the big unwanted shootout but I liked the actual outcome, so I like how the game handled it.

Spammer
11-12-2020, 04:57 PM
Got another 8 hours to download at the rate it's going, so it'll be tomorrow before I play it by the looks of things.

Can't wait. I haven't had a game so close to release day since CM03/04. Outside of the old CM games, I think it was probably Duke 3D. I've never usually had a pc that can handle new games.

Raoul Duke
11-12-2020, 05:34 PM
I've put the main quest stuff on the back burner for the moment and set about earning some cash. Seems like the easiest way to do this is to go on the map and go to the little blue "police incident" things. Usually just need to blast a few gang people and you'll earn a decent wedge each time. I've settled on a load out too: silenced pistol (weak but just about good enough if I sneak up and get a couple of headshots), a smart shotgun which is bonkers and then a red katana for when things go sideways :drool:

Dark Soldier
12-12-2020, 12:39 AM
1440p, DLSS Quality, everything on high, RTX on Ultra. Its a fucking looker.

https://i.imgur.com/6v1bd6H.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TO1kWg0.jpg

Ian
12-12-2020, 01:03 AM
I can't max everything but it's still very pretty.

Also following Raoul's post I just acquired my first smart weapon. Can confirm they're very silly.

phonics
12-12-2020, 01:20 AM
I've got to say, for the first time I'm rather unimpressed with DS' screenshots.

This is an updated version of a PS3 game:

https://overclock3d.net/gfx/articles/2019/05/11183309584l.jpg

Dark Soldier
12-12-2020, 01:34 AM
I've got to say, for the first time I'm rather unimpressed with DS' screenshots.

This is an updated version of a PS3 game: image

It does kinda help that the Yakuza city is laughably small. I've played the game (Kiwami 1 or 2 i think) it looks good but nothing akin to Cyberpunk RTX'd out the arse in motion.

Check 4k max rtx settings screenshots in Google if we're gonna compare like for like.

phonics
12-12-2020, 06:08 AM
That's a 1080 screenshot not 4k and I'm really not having a go but this game struggles.

The main point of focus in this shot and the texture looks like

https://i.imgur.com/XnbxDnf.png

John Arne
12-12-2020, 08:06 AM
That's a 1080 screenshot not 4k and I'm really not having a go but this game struggles.

The main point of focus in this shot and the texture looks like

https://i.imgur.com/XnbxDnf.png

I actually agree that it doesn't look that nice. However, the screenshot you choose - I'm guessing that's intentional from the game - It's some sort of wacky billboard.

Shindig
12-12-2020, 10:00 AM
Empty streets and cars from the 1970's. What a shit version of the future.

phonics
12-12-2020, 10:24 AM
I actually agree that it doesn't look that nice. However, the screenshot you choose - I'm guessing that's intentional from the game - It's some sort of wacky billboard.

So wacky they ran out of texture memory and put the same ad on the other side of the road and then 2 of the same ad directly above it?

https://i.imgur.com/36fmMvL.png

The lighting and the sound are what make cyberpunk. I genuinely felt ill in the club scene, too many memories.

Dark Soldier
12-12-2020, 01:09 PM
That's a 1080 screenshot not 4k and I'm really not having a go but this game struggles.

The main point of focus in this shot and the texture looks like

https://i.imgur.com/XnbxDnf.png

Its got DLSS on. The post literally states it. Thats what DLSS does.

Dark Soldier
12-12-2020, 01:14 PM
I do stand by this game in motion in a log of places being the best looking thing I've experienced though. We can agree to disagree on that.

phonics
12-12-2020, 01:31 PM
Its got DLSS on. The post literally states it. Thats what DLSS does.

Maybe it's the whole, my career revolves around literally making images to have the likes of DLSS applied to it that makes me not understand what you're saying here.

Are you saying that DLSS, a deep learning up scaler is doing two seperate operations on the same texture in one shot and it's not upscaling it, it's descaling it?

Ian
12-12-2020, 01:52 PM
I'm in favour of moar freds in this case if it means this one isn't full of an argument about pixels.

Dark Soldier
12-12-2020, 02:15 PM
I'm in favour of moar freds in this case if it means this one isn't full of an argument about pixels.

I'm happy to bow out and lose whatever the discussion is. Just thought it looked real nice.

More pissed that I can barely play it due to a well timed bout of Uevitis fucking my eye up.

Ian
12-12-2020, 02:59 PM
It does look nice, I agree. I've just been doing the quest earlier for Delamain with the missing cabs which has allowed me to see more different parts of the City and its an excellent place.

It's also exactly the sort of quest I loved CDPRs writers for in the Witcher games with all the cabs being different variants of fucked up rogue AI, including the frightened one and the suicidal/ daddy issues one.

Raoul Duke
12-12-2020, 07:49 PM
Just done a quest with someone called Panam which was immense. Best quest so far in terms of its depth, excitement and ways to approach it. Awesome shit.

Mike
13-12-2020, 10:42 AM
After a busy weekend I’m finally starting this, going Nomad.

Raoul Duke
13-12-2020, 12:42 PM
Free super car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkX25-jmbnc

Ian
13-12-2020, 01:00 PM
I prefer bikes in this to be honest, but I suppose a freebie is a freebie.

Also Contagian is such a good quickhack.

Alex
13-12-2020, 04:37 PM
Is the general consensus that this pretty much totally playable, then? I'm a bit put off starting it by all the reports online about it being a buggy mess on consoles. I realise people often work themselves into a fit of hysteria about the severity of these things though.

Dark Soldier
13-12-2020, 05:38 PM
It seems to be a hell of a lot more stable on PC, PS5 and the new Xbox. Last gen consoles are basically a write off, though.

I havent had a single crash or major bug, just some graphical glitches which seem to come with most new releases.

Raoul Duke
13-12-2020, 06:30 PM
I've been playing it solid on a basic PS4 for a few days now - it's definitely struggling but has been fine and playable. Most of the people complaining are internet bedwetters who expected the moon on a stick.

Ian
14-12-2020, 12:35 AM
Is the general consensus that this pretty much totally playable, then? I'm a bit put off starting it by all the reports online about it being a buggy mess on consoles. I realise people often work themselves into a fit of hysteria about the severity of these things though.


It seems to be a hell of a lot more stable on PC

Can confirm this, from my experience. I've probably racked up 20+ hours of play already, on an admittedly mostly-new PC, but I've only had one crash and two issues that stopped me progressing stuff. One I had to just do a quickload because a quest hadn't completed when it should have, another I couldn't make it let me to speak to an NPC for a sidequest so I just had to complete it via an alternative method. Probably had a dozen or so other very minor things that caused no issues.

Ian
16-12-2020, 10:29 AM
I'm on mostly purple (epic?) quickhacks now and they really do make dealing with hostile areas a bit of a rinse if you're trying to take folk out. If you've really leaned into the cyberware hacking stuff then just spamming a group of mooks with powered-up Contagion will do a lot of the hard work for you.

I don't think anybody I know personally is enjoying this nearly as much as I am but all the stuff I'm here for is great. Okay so probably too many of the sidequests boil down to "capitalism is bad mkay" or "them body mods will make you crazy!" but the little stories within that are still frequently very good and do a good job of building up the setting. I'd also say the average ? on the map is more interesting than they are in most games, from going on a nostalgia trip about Johnny's band because he comments on a busker you walk past to a guy begging for your help because his Mr Stud implant has started burning his bits off and you then keep hitting obstructions and roadblocks, etc. as you try and get him to a ripperdoc. "New Contact Added: Flaming Crotch Man."

Yevrah
16-12-2020, 10:37 AM
So I started again, left Jackie by the hot dog stall, just started free roaming/visiting points of interest and am loving it.

Busted loads of crims and picked up loads of gear and now sat on 17,000 monies.

On the negative side some of the menu choices are painful. Sorting through the shit, trying to work out what to keep on you, what to put in your stash and what to sell when you've cleared a gang out is an absolute headache.

Ian
16-12-2020, 11:09 AM
Yeah the UI definitely needs some work. That said I don't stash anything. I have about six weapons I rotate through, almost everything else I now break down for materials. To be honest I barely use any consumables other than health ones so it'd be nice to be able to mark stuff as junk.

Money is very, very easy to come by just through picking up gigs and stuff. I realised I was sitting on about £100k so I went to a ripperdoc and have got epic versions of mantis blades, gorilla arms and the projectile launcher thing. Haven't tried the nanowire at all yet so should get on that.

Dark Soldier
16-12-2020, 11:11 AM
UI is very simple to use on PC, but I can picture it being a nightmare on console.

Raoul Duke
16-12-2020, 11:20 AM
I've been loving it so far - loads of overreaction on the internet from dickheads wanting a bit of a whine. The story, VO and general vibe of it is immense. Has anyone done the mission with River Ward called The Hunt? That is up there with stuff like The Bloody Baron for me. Proper :| -face on as it unravelled...

How they spent 8 years on this and just shat the Witcher's awful inventory menus into it is definitely a pain point though

Ian
16-12-2020, 11:26 AM
I haven't done that one yet so hopefully I find that if it's a side mission. I will say that I dunno when I last skipped this little dialogue in a game. The voice acting is all really good that I've encountered and it helps that the characters behave in believable ways while you're speaking, actually reacting and getting read to say stuff rather than standing stock still until its their turn to speak.

A guy I work with described it as having a "dead world" and I honestly can't be arsed arguing about it because I can't imagine what he's possibly looking for.

Ian
16-12-2020, 12:44 PM
Also I had to lol when my mate said he reckoned that Keanu Reeves' stuff must've all been single takes or whatever and it didn't sound like he was very into it. I had to ask whether he's heard Reeves speak before and what exactly he was expecting.

Dark Soldier
16-12-2020, 01:55 PM
I haven't done that one yet so hopefully I find that if it's a side mission. I will say that I dunno when I last skipped this little dialogue in a game. The voice acting is all really good that I've encountered and it helps that the characters behave in believable ways while you're speaking, actually reacting and getting read to say stuff rather than standing stock still until its their turn to speak.

A guy I work with described it as having a "dead world" and I honestly can't be arsed arguing about it because I can't imagine what he's possibly looking for.

There's a few I've spoken to about this. They called GTA and Red Dead 2's worlds as 'emergent'. In GTA all you have is OTT cop chases. Its dead as fuck.

In Red Dead you have heavily scripted incidental situations which end up repeating after you've done 15 or so. Besides this, its dead as fuck.

Give me deeply written and crafted side quests over sucking poison out of someone or blowing up a car for the thousandth time then hiding under a bridge.

Like all open world games the world itself is just a stage to what the devs have crafted, there just hasn't been one as beautiful to look at as Night City. Its fucking jaw dropping in places with RTX.

Dark Soldier
16-12-2020, 01:58 PM
I do like the irony of console players going ballistic about it being a buggy mess when on the opposite side a lot of console ports to PC are hilariously bad. CDPR are cunts for the way they've handled the launch but its still lol.

I tried Watch Dogs Legion (shit game). On my PC with a 2080ti I get the same FPS if I run at 480p as I do at 4k. Tested it in the same spot. 45fps on both, doesn't matter what settings I touch, if it goes up to 70 at 480p, its 70 at 4k.

Ian
16-12-2020, 02:53 PM
There's a few I've spoken to about this. They called GTA and Red Dead 2's worlds as 'emergent'. In GTA all you have is OTT cop chases. Its dead as fuck.

In Red Dead you have heavily scripted incidental situations which end up repeating after you've done 15 or so. Besides this, its dead as fuck.

Give me deeply written and crafted side quests over sucking poison out of someone or blowing up a car for the thousandth time then hiding under a bridge.

Like all open world games the world itself is just a stage to what the devs have crafted, there just hasn't been one as beautiful to look at as Night City. Its fucking jaw dropping in places with RTX.

Yeah I mean I've played a fair few open world games (RDR2 is probably the main one I haven't played) and while Cyberpunk isn't breaking any new ground in terms of how "alive" the world is I'd say it compares favourably to any I've played. And I can't think of an obvious contender for my favourite city in a game.

Dark Soldier
16-12-2020, 03:09 PM
I think people's expectations were blown out of all whack, something CDPR didn't help to temper. The Witcher 3 has a few nice locales, good main and side missions, NPCs that offer absolutely fuck all and a relatively dead world bar loot. This offers the same experience, just better, yet its as if people expected an all-encompassing shit hot fully insane life-like experience when at its heart its a wonderfully built, well written experience, as was W3. Its just a bit bug-ridden, as was W3 at launch.

Ian
16-12-2020, 04:08 PM
Wild Hunt maybe had NPCs that looked a little busier but honestly even games where NPCs appear to be getting up, going to do their jobs, etc. the façade doesn't stand up to more than about 20 seconds scrutiny. As long as they're not doing anything obviously stupid and have a basic appearance of being busy for the 3 seconds when I zoom past them then I really don't care.

The things it gets right are the exact same things Witcher 3 gets right. As you say, the characters and writing (both on a main story level from what I've seen and the side quests, even brief ones) are excellent both for building up those little stories and the world at large.

Dark Soldier
16-12-2020, 04:23 PM
Yeah there was one minor side thing I did last night that blew me away (spoilers):

The TV host who's son had been kidnapped and murdered. It was recorded by the gang, and I had to infiltrate and take back the raw, unedited video of his murder from the two guys who had edited it. Started off as a typical base invasion thing, scattered with tidbits of info and conversation that built it as a whole and then to confront them only to realise that they gave no fucks, what they viewed and cut (paedophilia, bestiality, murder) and their complete apathy towards it gave me such a visceral reaction. I shot the father mid-conversation and saw the son display emotion I didn't think he held within him. I then shot the son. And it actually felt justified rather than just shooting for the sake of it.

Had some actual heft to it, and it was a tiny little bit of the game. Gave me a reaction akin to that famous scene in Spec Ops: The Line.

Ian
16-12-2020, 04:41 PM
I read the first sentence and haven't done that yet so I'll try and remember to come back to that later.

Dark Soldier
16-12-2020, 06:34 PM
Its so so good.

Raoul Duke
17-12-2020, 11:34 PM
This is useful: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kda6ge/guaranteed_armadillo_crafting_spec_location/

Also discovered this evening that there's a hard limit on ammo you can carry per-weapon, which is retarded. Only 100 shotgun ammo for example and if you craft more it just wastes the components :moop:

Baz
18-12-2020, 01:29 AM
Has this really been removed from the PlayStation Store “until further notice” due to the amount of people requesting refunds? :harold:

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-12-2020, 01:59 AM
1339737360184078336

Yep.

Not showing up on my PSN.

Refunds to everyone who purchased it digitally too...

Yevrah
18-12-2020, 02:06 AM
What's SIE?

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-12-2020, 02:10 AM
Sony Interactive Entertainment.

Boydy
18-12-2020, 02:12 AM
What's SIE?
Sony Interactive Entertainment

Edit: should've refreshed

Yevrah
18-12-2020, 02:18 AM
Cheers.

That is some going by CDPR.

Ian
18-12-2020, 07:40 AM
This is useful: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kda6ge/guaranteed_armadillo_crafting_spec_location/

Also discovered this evening that there's a hard limit on ammo you can carry per-weapon, which is retarded. Only 100 shotgun ammo for example and if you craft more it just wastes the components :moop:

Are people enjoying / using the guns enough that they run out of ammo? I've only done a a small number of fights where I went gun-heavy (two of the cyberpsychos, one story mission) and I don't think I've been close to running out. That is stupid, though, that it lets you make things you don't have room for but charges you the cost anyway.

Shindig
18-12-2020, 09:28 AM
This is kind of unprecedented to see a platform holder pull a game from sale. I suppose they had to after CDPR passed the buck.

Ian
18-12-2020, 09:42 AM
Well CDPR are having a good week on the "Games being pulled from platforms" thing what with this and them deciding they're pro Chinese government propaganda and removing that game from GOG.

Dark Soldier
18-12-2020, 10:15 AM
Yeah its 100% a power play from Sony. If CDPR hadn't pulled the refund angle it'd still be up.

Ian
18-12-2020, 10:34 AM
Back to the game, another interesting sidequest last night. It starts off with a job from Wakako who wants you to meet a fella who wants to be present when you carry out a hit for him...

And it's a guy whose wife was killed by a person who was convicted for it but got out of his death sentence. The guy who's hired you ends up getting shot but it turns out the murderer is claiming to have had some spiritual enlightenment while on Death Row and he's going to seek atonement by being executed and I think wants it turned into a braindance so other people can experience it and find their own enlightenment or some such. So you've got this thing going on where you're asking if this guy is legit and if so should you be talking him into or out of what he's doing and if not, what IS he up to? While also having the TV producer who just wants you to fuck off and not interfere with this lucrative thing they're going to do. That specific quest ended unresolved but I assume it's going to crop up again once some time has passed.

Kikó
18-12-2020, 06:00 PM
Yeah its 100% a power play from Sony. If CDPR hadn't pulled the refund angle it'd still be up.

1339983446865801224

Xbox also on the same story.

SincereTheRebel
18-12-2020, 09:29 PM
Yeah, ive just heard. Has this ever happened before.

Dark Soldier
19-12-2020, 12:53 AM
Games have been pulled from sale before but normally due to Dev not platform choice.

Dark Soldier
19-12-2020, 12:54 AM
In other news patch 1.05 is out on PS/Xbox

The Merse
21-12-2020, 08:37 PM
Fuck it, they lost me with making me nauseous with tearing, 15fps and input lag. Refunded.

I’m fully up for not quite ready to ship shit shipping in the spirit of agile, I’ve done it myself on many a project; but this was fucking criminal.

Yevrah
21-12-2020, 09:10 PM
It doesn't run that badly on the Xbox One X. There are glitches obviously, but it runs.

Would love to see the horror of it on first versions of last gen.

Raoul Duke
21-12-2020, 11:40 PM
The last couple of patches have fixed most of the main issues (bug/glitches, anyway). They should have delayed it on older systems and shipped this build.

Ian
22-12-2020, 11:47 AM
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/12/21/cyberpunk-2077-saves-can-get-corrupted-if-you-craft-too-much/

Excellent.

Yevrah
22-12-2020, 11:59 AM
That's an absolute deal breaker for me.

I don't really understand what they've been doing for 10 years.

Boydy
22-12-2020, 12:33 PM
That's an absolute deal breaker for me.

I don't really understand what they've been doing for 10 years.
Marketing?

Ian
22-12-2020, 01:37 PM
That's an absolute deal breaker for me.

I don't really understand what they've been doing for 10 years.

I'll need to keep an eye on my save file but it's under 5MB at the moment anyway but yeah, I don't understand how some of these bugs have managed to get through.

Yevrah
22-12-2020, 01:55 PM
I know there's a keen narrative to pin the blame for all this on the mean and rich suits (which ultimately it is as they're the ones who should be running things), but at what point does it become rank incompetence from all involved?

Ian
22-12-2020, 02:05 PM
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/12/15/cyberpunk-2077-devs-say-they-ignored-signals-about-the-need-for-additional-time-to-refine-the-game/

if they were being outright told "this shit isn't ready to go" then it's the leadership who have to shoulder the brunt of the blame.

phonics
22-12-2020, 02:54 PM
I know there's a keen narrative to pin the blame for all this on the mean and rich suits (which ultimately it is as they're the ones who should be running things), but at what point does it become rank incompetence from all involved?

Literally never. Anyone who looks at cyberpunk and cd Projekt red in general and thinks, ‘well these people don’t know how to make a video game.’ Is a fucking idiot.

Raoul Duke
23-12-2020, 11:38 PM
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/12/21/cyberpunk-2077-saves-can-get-corrupted-if-you-craft-too-much/

Excellent.

Hotfix out now: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kj2c10/looks_like_hotfix_106_is_out_save_file_fixed/

Sir Andy Mahowry
25-12-2020, 12:05 AM
Just got it.

I genuinely thought the option of penis and it's size was a joke due to a glitch.

I obviously went big.

John Arne
26-12-2020, 06:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsBrkLq31eM&t=75s&ab_channel=ENXGMA

GTA V is 7 years old??

Shindig
26-12-2020, 10:00 AM
GTA also has a much bigger development team and they've been supporting it for 7 years. I dare say it was in active development longer than Cyberpunk. Rockstar know how to do this and you can really appreciate how they build their games.

Ian
29-12-2020, 08:48 AM
Not posted much in here but I'm still very much enjoying this. Into act 3 now so I'm going to be taking the main story even slower and getting the side stuff mopped up.

I'm pretty OP now at everything other than the hardest fistfights, I'm gonna need to buff my punchy skills a bit before I take on the end of the boxing sidequest chain.

I'm also still barely fast-travelling which, this many hours into a game of this length, says a lot for how much I like just moving around Night City despite the iffy driving. Though even that I've kinda of adjusted to now.

Raoul Duke
29-12-2020, 11:12 AM
Yeah pretty much the same here. There's not a lot of side quests outstanding now, aside from the shit I can't be bothered to do like driving (fuck I hate forced racing segments in these kinds of games) and the fighting ones. Although saying that, I haven't kicked on with Takemura hardly at all so might focus a bit on that for the moment.

I think I see how the main story is coming together too, and so far it's played out really well. Enjoying it a lot overall.

Ian
29-12-2020, 11:39 AM
I normally hate forced racing bits but those were a piece of piss and the final / race quest comes to a good conclusion.

I'm not mopping up all the blue NCPD markers unless I'm right there or if it happens to be in my way and just Contagion-ing my way through is quicker than walking around but I'm grabbing all the ?s and yellow markers because as we've touched on previously there's some nicely written mini-stories in there.

One misstep was when I went to meet a mysterious quest-giver and when they turned around V went "It's you!" and I had no idea who the fuck it was. I get that they're a prominent in-setting character but they really ought to have made sure I couldn't avoid being aware of them.

Raoul Duke
29-12-2020, 02:40 PM
I found this the other day and picked up some legendary gear: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kkgbr5/guide_full_list_cyberpunk_2077/ there's a good few just lying around guarded by mooks and you can save a load of money with it.

Ian
29-12-2020, 02:45 PM
I don't see how you could ever run out of money if you don't just mainline the story. I think I've got about £350k just sitting about currently.

Raoul Duke
29-12-2020, 02:48 PM
Buying all the cars is like 1.3m or something. I don't actually have that much money at the moment (maybe 140k?)

Ian
29-12-2020, 02:52 PM
Ah well I probably won't be buying all the cars, or even that many more. I've got a bike and a Porsche 911 from different quests and I'm pretty happy with those, as well as a cyberdeck that lets me have six quickhacks ready to go and the legendary versions of the gorilla arms, mantis blades and the projectile launcher.

STILL haven't used the nanowire, anybody else done much with it?

Raoul Duke
29-12-2020, 04:06 PM
This amused me a lot: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/kmamkp/somethings_wrong_with_me

Ian
29-12-2020, 04:11 PM
Well somebody likes the Suicide quickhack.

Raoul Duke
29-12-2020, 04:12 PM
Also: https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/dlc - "early 2021" :sherlock:

Ian
29-12-2020, 04:16 PM
Yeah, that was announced a while back wasn't it?

Or are you :sherlock:ing suspiciously at whether all this other shit they need to fix means we'll get it that early or not?

I hope they also just add random quests here and there as they did with Witcher 3. Of the one-off quests in that one of my favourites was the one with the Cat school witcher and it was one they just added a while after release.

Raoul Duke
29-12-2020, 04:34 PM
Yeah, can't imagine it'll be a big B&W style thing first, probably just some cosmetics. Would be great if there's some bigger general quality-of-life improvements as well as just some new trinkets. Still feel like the performance isn't where it should be for base consoles.

Ian
29-12-2020, 05:07 PM
I expect there'll be some toys and maybe a few linked side quests but yeah, if they release that stuff before they've fixed a good chunk of the broken shit that'd be a bit of a kick in the teeth for those affected even if it's not monetised stuff.

Ian
31-12-2020, 08:22 AM
Well I've hit the point of no return in the main story which has caught me off guard. I'd say I'm surprised (at how they've weighted main story to side stories) rather than disappointed. I mean I've put dozens of hours into this and the big sidequest chains feel substantial and important enough to V that they probably could have been tied into the main story chains so there's still lots of story / character stuff there for those who want it, it's just not mandatory.

Regardless I'll be clearing out the side stuff (not the blue NCPD icons) before I move onto finishing the main story.

Raoul Duke
31-12-2020, 12:04 PM
The NCPD things are a bit shit but you can get some great loot from them. Worth knocking them off. They're mostly just against low-level gimps so you can smash through them easily and ransack the rewards.

Ian
31-12-2020, 12:15 PM
If I needed money or gear (other than as cosmetics) I'd be doing them but I don't so I just leave them be unless I'm right there, in which case I let Contagion do all the work. Although the legendary version of the silenced sniper rifle is also, obviously, stupidly powerful. The ?s and Fixer sidequests will do me fine.

Raoul Duke
31-12-2020, 12:24 PM
Oh yeah - the sniper rifle is dumb. It can just shoot through anything? Ridiculous and overpowered. It doesn't even have some Perfect Dark-esque laser firing mechanism

Ian
31-12-2020, 12:28 PM
I mean guns are very much a thing I do when I fancy a change from taking down gangs with my mind, obviously. Especially given the cybermod where the only way shooting people kills them is if you shoot them after they've been downed the first time. Because cyber tech magic makes sure that a double barrelled shotgun to the face is a NON LETHAL takedown.

SincereTheRebel
04-01-2021, 12:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsBrkLq31eM&t=75s&ab_channel=ENXGMA

GTA V is 7 years old??

That is bad. However, was cyberpunk supposed to compete?

Baz
04-01-2021, 03:18 PM
Reminds how mega GTA V was/is.

Ian
04-01-2021, 04:08 PM
I've watched about a third of that video and there's no individual thing that would be close to appearing on a list of things that make a game better or worse. Overall polish, absolutely. CDPR clearly a) should have delayed again (or just not committed to a release date when the game was so clearly far from having everything fixed) and b) just don't have the experience for this sort of game which is why you see GTAV (a game that is very good but much less to my taste than janky ol' Cyberpunk is) doing all that stuff and having some of the detail in physics, etc. which CP2077 does not.

Anyway, I have now finished it. Dunno if anybody else has other than presumably Dark Soldier ?

I thought it was well done. I thought it was gonna end up being really lengthy shooty / stealth bits but it's really not, it remains dedicated to its characters and story until the finish which I admire a lot, and it seems like the choices are meaningful.

I got Panam / the Aldecaldos to help me and then kept V in her body (I wondered if Johnny would have a change of heart but he didn't and for all that Reeves is the most boring voice actor in the game I thought he did a good job at the end, or at least Silverhand is well written in act 3) and I'd romanced Judy so she came with me and the nomads and it was a genuinely really nice ending. Loved that final drive giving you some big sweeping views of Night City as ell.

I was also well levelled so I was able to fuck up Adam Smasher pretty handily. Made sure to get up close and personal to finish him with the mantis blades too.

All in all a very janky game that I'm looking forward to playing again once it's been polished up a bit better and I'm not sure currently where it sits on my all-time list but I'd say it's objectively a 7 or 8 out of 10 game that sits higher for me because the CDPR writing I loved from the Witcher games is all there. And I'd be well up for a future sequel once this one's run its course.

Shindig
04-01-2021, 06:33 PM
Even when CDPR has a game down as finished, they don't feel that polished. I had to redo the Bloody Baron fist fight in Witcher 3 because the game made him invulnerable. And there's a weird blur effect going on when the game transitions into certain cutscenes.

Ian
04-01-2021, 06:45 PM
I had a weird bug along those lines, I forget the specifics of which, during my second Witcher 3 run which was odd because I'd had nowt like it the first time.

I think it might have been some random archespores, as if they weren't horrible enough to fight at the best of times.

SincereTheRebel
04-01-2021, 08:01 PM
Reminds how mega GTA V was/is.

Really is an amazing game. It's up there with my most favourite games of all time with

Pokemon Red
Gran Turismo Sport
Cod Black Ops 1

Dark Soldier
04-01-2021, 08:06 PM
I've watched about a third of that video and there's no individual thing that would be close to appearing on a list of things that make a game better or worse. Overall polish, absolutely. CDPR clearly a) should have delayed again (or just not committed to a release date when the game was so clearly far from having everything fixed) and b) just don't have the experience for this sort of game which is why you see GTAV (a game that is very good but much less to my taste than janky ol' Cyberpunk is) doing all that stuff and having some of the detail in physics, etc. which CP2077 does not.

Anyway, I have now finished it. Dunno if anybody else has other than presumably Dark Soldier ?

I thought it was well done. I thought it was gonna end up being really lengthy shooty / stealth bits but it's really not, it remains dedicated to its characters and story until the finish which I admire a lot, and it seems like the choices are meaningful.

I got Panam / the Aldecaldos to help me and then kept V in her body (I wondered if Johnny would have a change of heart but he didn't and for all that Reeves is the most boring voice actor in the game I thought he did a good job at the end, or at least Silverhand is well written in act 3) and I'd romanced Judy so she came with me and the nomads and it was a genuinely really nice ending. Loved that final drive giving you some big sweeping views of Night City as ell.

I was also well levelled so I was able to fuck up Adam Smasher pretty handily. Made sure to get up close and personal to finish him with the mantis blades too.

All in all a very janky game that I'm looking forward to playing again once it's been polished up a bit better and I'm not sure currently where it sits on my all-time list but I'd say it's objectively a 7 or 8 out of 10 game that sits higher for me because the CDPR writing I loved from the Witcher games is all there. And I'd be well up for a future sequel once this one's run its course.

Haven't finished it yet - been working on clearing my backlog so not played it much of late. Loving it though.

Raoul Duke
13-01-2021, 09:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3V4UBZmC9o

Lofty
07-02-2021, 04:20 PM
I have been back into this since the patch and despite there being a few bugs still I have been enjoying it. I did a bit of romancing, few side quests and moved the main plot on significantly and have to say I really like the game, despite the valid complaints. The only major criticism for me is the fact the cars handle like absolute shite.

Raoul Duke
07-02-2021, 06:28 PM
I've been chipping away at it too. I'm at what I believe is the point-of-no-return mission so am just clearing off icons before I get it done.

Driving, the mini-map and the shit inventory systems are the worst things about it, bugs aside. There should be a way to avoid having to do the hacking mini-puzzle once you're sufficiently levelled up too, it's very tedious.

The story is great though and there's some really awesome characters. It definitely feels like a Cyberpunk dystopia, but overall it's more of a 7/10 game as a lot of the gameplay mechanics get in the way rather than improve things.

Raoul Duke
09-02-2021, 05:25 PM
CDPR hacked (https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/lfxvpn/cd_projekt_red_has_been_hacked_hackers_seems_to/) and looks like some n'er do well might have the source code to 2077/Witcher etc. Fun times

Ian
09-02-2021, 05:36 PM
It's really been a good couple of years for CDPR.

Shindig
09-02-2021, 06:36 PM
It's when they complain the .txt file (C'mon, any hacker group's got to put that ASCII image somewhere) about the 'half-finished and half-covered mess of problems' that gets me. That's how the sausage is made, lads.

Baz
10-02-2021, 08:55 PM
Your have been EPICALLY pwned!!

:lol:

Raoul Duke
29-03-2021, 11:04 AM
Patch notes for the long-awaited 1.2 update: https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/37801/patch-1-2-list-of-changes - lots of stuff, not sure it'll fully address a lot of what people complained about

Yevrah
29-03-2021, 11:13 AM
Why is that screen tearing? Are they still on a crusade to give everyone who plays their game a seizure?

Kikó
12-04-2021, 02:35 PM
I've decided to take the plunge to buy it. Should be arriving in the next few days.

Ian
12-04-2021, 03:05 PM
What platform you on?

I've no idea how much jank is still left on consoles after the big patches.

No idea if anybody else in here ever finished it but I liked it a lot (on PC where the jank was less severe.)

Kikó
12-04-2021, 03:43 PM
Xbox One so could still be a massive struggle.

Ian
12-04-2021, 05:20 PM
Somebody can correct me but I think a) PS5 had it the worst and b) the PS4 and XBone weren't as bad as the next gen broadly speaking.

So you might be okay.

Raoul Duke
12-04-2021, 05:25 PM
Older consoles got the worst of it. I have been running it ok on a PS4 with an SSD though, especially post the latest main patch. I took a break for a while but am close to finishing it up.

Ian
23-11-2021, 11:46 AM
No idea if anybody is interested in this for PC and waiting for it to go below a certain price but it's currently £25 on GOG:
https://www.gog.com/game/cyberpunk_2077

Raoul Duke
23-11-2021, 05:09 PM
I would hold fire. Game just isn't that good and their long-term roadmap doesn't seem like they're gonna do a No Man's Sky anytime soon

Ian
23-11-2021, 05:13 PM
I enjoyed it but I might have been after something different to most (I don't care that the combat becomes a bit of a rinse, for example) and even by the slightly better standards of the PC version I seemed to get very little jank.

Gray Fox
23-11-2021, 08:29 PM
I was going to say I've held off until the PS5 update becomes available at the very least to see what's what.

I bet there's a great game there, but given the way things have gone, they might need a patch or two after that as well. I do wonder if CD:PR could speak openly and honestly, how much longer they would actually have needed to get the game out to avoid the disaster it had.

I always hate seeing companies cave in and shove it out for the Christmas period, hoping to fix it later.

Raoul Duke
23-11-2021, 09:15 PM
They should have sacked off the last gen consoles and waited to release it on the PS5/Series X

Yevrah
24-11-2021, 02:22 PM
From what I've played of it I'm minded of the opposite of when the BBFC tried to cut Texas Chainsaw Massacre to make it pass with an 18 certificate. No matter what they did the nature of the piece was so unrelentingly grim that they couldn't get it in what they deemed a fit state for release.

Raoul Duke
15-02-2022, 11:36 AM
Next Gen patch supposedly coming soon: link (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2022-02-14-cyberpunk-2077-stream-on-tuesday-may-reveal-new-versions) - stream at 3pm UK time. Don't expect much but would be nice to see some decent progress rather than just some new hats and shiny graphics

Yevrah
15-02-2022, 01:50 PM
Can you have more than one shitty apartment yet and is the weapons menu not a complete clusterfuck and are the perks still rubbish (e.g. 1% increase in damage)?

Ian
15-02-2022, 03:06 PM
CDPR are always crap at 'perks' if this and the Witcher games are anything to go by but then in this you've got cybernetics so I can't say I cared that the level-ups themselves weren't that exciting.

Not that I really did in the Witcher games either, to be fair.

Gray Fox
15-02-2022, 03:40 PM
Can you have more than one shitty apartment yet and is the weapons menu not a complete clusterfuck and are the perks still rubbish (e.g. 1% increase in damage)?

I only just got in and tuned in and it seems they've given you 4 new places to rent.

Raoul Duke
15-02-2022, 04:03 PM
I missed the start but there are new apartments to buy. Can edit your appearance mid-game. There's some improved pedestrian logic when there's gunfire etc. New guns and throwing knives. Obviously a load of next gen graphics updates

Ian
15-02-2022, 04:07 PM
I wonder if they think it's anywhere near a state yet where they can start talking about proper DLC.

Raoul Duke
15-02-2022, 04:33 PM
They kept saying the phrase "DLC" but it definitely isn't that. This is probably the state it should have launched in.

There's also a free 5-hour demo you can download of the next gen version. Lol, £35 for the full game

Alex
24-03-2022, 11:06 PM
I've started playing this recently, the PS5 version. I bought it at release but it's just been sat there. Admittedly I never touched it on the PS4, the bad press put me off, so I don't know how broken it was, but it seems fine (so far) on the PS5.

My initial thoughts are that the world is fantastic. The whole setting is very much up my alley and it feels very, I don't know, "lived in". I'm liking it. The gunplay is very solid too. I'm hacking and stealthing a little bit but then just dropping people with the shotgun when it all kicks off and then quickly carving them up with the sword when they're down. It's a lot of fun.

I've dumped most of my points into "body" so far. I went in on the hardest difficulty so it's helping with the survivability a bit.

Ian
25-03-2022, 04:33 PM
I am absolutely ready for more Night City once they're done fixing it all for all the non-me people who is was broken as fuck for and get some DLC out.

Alex
25-03-2022, 08:35 PM
I finished the prologue (if you want to call it that, basically the first five to six hours of the game) and thought it was ace, very cinematic and cool setup for the story.

BUT:

Jackie Welles dies! What the fuck? :(