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Yevrah
02-10-2015, 08:01 PM
Two characters.

GS
02-10-2015, 08:01 PM
It's serving its purpose.

Pepe
02-10-2015, 08:02 PM
As good as the old one. Should have moved some time ago.

Giggles
02-10-2015, 08:02 PM
I think it's great. Looks better, works better, and generally seems to have made people post a little more. The mobile skin is a godsend too.

Henry
02-10-2015, 08:03 PM
Pretty good. I like some of the new features. I think the skin isn't great though.

Lewis
02-10-2015, 08:03 PM
What GS said. I'm surprised everybody came over and continued bothering though. I thought a few people, especially some of the older ones, would have just called it a day.

Yevrah
02-10-2015, 08:04 PM
What GS said. I'm surprised everybody came over and continued bothering though. I thought a few people, especially some of the older ones, would have just called it a day.

If it had involved doing something akin to actually moving I might have thought twice, but as it was it was nay bother.

Giggles
02-10-2015, 08:04 PM
What GS said. I'm surprised everybody came over and continued bothering though. I thought a few people, especially some of the older ones, would have just called it a day.

Didn't we lose Taz and Sincere? Though we gained Saint.

GS kind of has the hump with here too. Been very quiet since it's creation.

Pepe
02-10-2015, 08:04 PM
What GS said. I'm surprised everybody came over and continued bothering though. I thought a few people, especially some of the older ones, would have just called it a day.

Yes, really surprised we didn't lose a single 'top' member.

Yevrah
02-10-2015, 08:05 PM
I think it's great. Looks better, works better, and generally seems to have made people post a little more. The mobile skin is a godsend too.

Yep, that mobile skin is the bollocks.

Yevrah
02-10-2015, 08:06 PM
Didn't we lose Taz and Sincere?


Taz will come back when his vagina grows over.

GS
02-10-2015, 08:07 PM
Didn't we lose Taz and Sincere? Though we gained Saint.

GS kind of has the hump with here too. Been very quiet since it's creation.

I've been working away, so I'm not on during the week.

The skin is a bit shit, to be fair.

Yevrah
02-10-2015, 08:12 PM
Been quite impressed with Saint's English on this board so far, it has to be said.

Lewis
02-10-2015, 08:13 PM
If it had involved doing something akin to actually moving I might have thought twice, but as it was it was nay bother.

You live for TTH [as much as I do], so that was never happening. It's the people with actual lives (Andy, Ital, 'Daws') that I thought would either not bother, or at least dramatically reduce their posting.

Yevrah
02-10-2015, 08:14 PM
You live for TTH [as much as I do]

Not a chance. No-one does.

Alex Ferguson
02-10-2015, 08:16 PM
I think it's great. Looks better, works better, and generally seems to have made people post a little more. The mobile skin is a godsend too.

Agreed. Doesn't feel quite as hostile as it used to back when I posted more regularly.

Also I have to say I'm loving the avatar!

Lewis
02-10-2015, 08:18 PM
You had more posts than me on the old board (and remember tens of thousands were wiped before you claim longevity), started miles more threads, was far more prone to going 'balls deep' in major events and staying online all night, and seemed to keep that Football Manager thread going all on your own. Don't let my dominance convince you otherwise.

GS
02-10-2015, 08:19 PM
He also shattered the duopoly last year. The people agree.

Ian
02-10-2015, 08:19 PM
It's absolutely fine.

+1 for being surprised we didn't lose more though. Sincere is being an arse for no apparent reason and I'd be astonished if Taz isn't here shortly.

Giggles
02-10-2015, 08:20 PM
My day would be woefully boring at times without this to check.

Dquincy
02-10-2015, 08:30 PM
I like it. Hope more people join.

Lee
02-10-2015, 08:34 PM
I'm a fan. Not really been on this week, mind. Well, I haven't posted; I read it several times per day.

Davgooner
02-10-2015, 08:41 PM
The look isn't quite as good, but SVN is apparently sorting that this weekend. Otherwise fine. The notifications means I can be an even lazier poster than before.

Baz
02-10-2015, 09:17 PM
Pretty bummed there's been no 'wahey Baz is back' fanfare.

Yevrah
02-10-2015, 09:17 PM
Old TTH did have the stench of death about it.

Raoul Duke
02-10-2015, 09:19 PM
I'm liking it so far. There are things which are a bit iffy (the compose box, the skin the bullshit notifications) but it's fine. Overall it's fine. Mobile support is nice.

I have reservations on:

1) The technology it's running on (why are we not using the latest version of vBulletin? Is it using the cloud-hosted solution?). It's just as insecure and open to security issues as before, albeit on a more stable host.

2) Why are we using pirated forum code? Who's paying for it all (Phonics? (A freelance/unemployed graphic designer?).

3) Why didn't we take the opportunity to get rid of some shitmunchers like Harold, Saint and Mert for good? They offer nothing of value and just serve to turn the place into some kind of Daily Mail/YouTube comments derivative

Yevrah
02-10-2015, 09:22 PM
1) I've no idea
2) I'd love to know the answer to this too. The question seems to be routinely dodged so far.
3) Because the board would turn into even more of a mutual masturbation session than it's become over recent years and, quite frankly, fuck that.

Sir Andy Mahowry
02-10-2015, 09:25 PM
Pretty bummed there's been no 'wahey Baz is back' fanfare.

You've been better than I remembered you on TTH tbh.

Disco
02-10-2015, 09:51 PM
It's fine, more functionality than the old places and it stays on it's feet for more a few days in a row (apart from that one time).

Pleb
02-10-2015, 09:52 PM
I'm posting more...

Reg
02-10-2015, 09:52 PM
I don't think Taz will be back, he hinted at quitting posting on the old place.

Magic
02-10-2015, 09:57 PM
I love it. :)

Danny
03-10-2015, 02:07 AM
Prefer it massively over TD. Mostly because its reliable.

I have also come to love the skin.

Spoonsky
03-10-2015, 02:58 AM
What GS said. I'm surprised everybody came over and continued bothering though. I thought a few people, especially some of the older ones, would have just called it a day.

I don't really think it's that easy to spend nigh on 15 years within a community, not to mention a brilliant one, and then just be able to leave it like that. Most of the people who leave us suddenly (Chaodck, Trips, etc) have only been here for a couple years.

I think this is place is great. I agree that the old place had the stink of death about it, whereas this place has the sweet scent of life. I've gotten used to the skin as well, and though there could be something better (especially if it could be more customizeable in terms of color) I'd have no problem with keeping it. The biggest remaining problem is the amount of people without avatars.

elth
03-10-2015, 04:07 AM
It's total shite and therefore perfect.

ItalAussie
03-10-2015, 04:13 AM
Yeah, I've spent over a decade on TD. I doubt I'd be able to just give it up.

7om
03-10-2015, 04:29 AM
I think the fact that most of us have moved over and carried on from where we left off has made it feel quite seamless. If we'd moved over and lost some of the better posters then I'd have also just threw the towel in, I imagine.

mugbull
03-10-2015, 05:02 AM
You've lost me, so that's reason enough to move back.

Baz
03-10-2015, 06:07 AM
I'm liking it so far. There are things which are a bit iffy (the compose box, the skin the bullshit notifications) but it's fine. Overall it's fine. Mobile support is nice.

I have reservations on:

1) The technology it's running on (why are we not using the latest version of vBulletin? Is it using the cloud-hosted solution?). It's just as insecure and open to security issues as before, albeit on a more stable host.

2) Why are we using pirated forum code? Who's paying for it all (Phonics? (A freelance/unemployed graphic designer?).

3) Why didn't we take the opportunity to get rid of some shitmunchers like Harold, Saint and Mert for good? They offer nothing of value and just serve to turn the place into some kind of Daily Mail/YouTube comments derivative

You answered number 1 with number 2, as far as I'm aware. It seems like we're running an older version (albeit not by that much) of vBulletin because it's pirated, and therefore didn't cost anything. You may or may not be aware that the latest version of vbulletin has been pirated/nulled but it is actively searched for and removed if discovered. The only way to get this forum running on the latest vbulletin would be to pay for a license.

The good news is not every penny has been pinched, and the server is paid for and was recently upgraded to allow 20gb bandwidth a month. More than enough for TTH, but better safe than sorry.

I'm waiting on phonics(/SvN?) to put some Google Adsense code on here so I'm not completely out of pocket but last I heard he said it wasn't a straight forward process and there were other things to iron out first.

Oh and your number 3 is terrible. Permanently banning someone from an Internet forum is pathetic, especially for "being shit," or something similar.

Mike
03-10-2015, 06:59 AM
It seems pretty damn sweet. Well done to whoever got phonics going on setting things up ;)

Magic
03-10-2015, 07:13 AM
I don't mind donating.

How much would a license cost? The thought we could be taken down without warning leaves me slightly uneasy.

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 07:17 AM
The 'view latest posts' option still hasn't been sorted and it's an important part of a messageboard. Other than that pretty good.

Queenslander
03-10-2015, 07:26 AM
More reliable than the old board so I'm happy. :)

Mike
03-10-2015, 07:48 AM
I don't mind donating.

How much would a license cost? The thought we could be taken down without warning leaves me slightly uneasy.
It's not cheap. I think (I might be wrong) you pay yearly too
Version 5 (http://www.vbulletin.com/en/purchases)

Jimmy Floyd
03-10-2015, 09:05 AM
The skin's too light for me (the post boxes are fine but the area around them needs to be a darker grey to contrast). Otherwise though it's like we never moved.

Smiffy
03-10-2015, 09:17 AM
.....

Multi
03-10-2015, 09:19 AM
You can change the theme. The automatic light blue one was too bright and not easy on the eyes. The other theme with grey/dark blue is ace. Like Jimmy said it's as if we never moved.

Yevrah
03-10-2015, 10:18 AM
You can change the theme. The automatic light blue one was too bright and not easy on the eyes. The other theme with grey/dark blue is ace. Like Jimmy said it's as if we never moved.

I'd missed this. That's much much better.

Giggles
03-10-2015, 10:18 AM
Very 2001.

Raoul Duke
03-10-2015, 10:23 AM
You answered number 1 with number 2, as far as I'm aware. It seems like we're running an older version (albeit not by that much) of vBulletin because it's pirated, and therefore didn't cost anything. You may or may not be aware that the latest version of vbulletin has been pirated/nulled but it is actively searched for and removed if discovered. The only way to get this forum running on the latest vbulletin would be to pay for a license.

The good news is not every penny has been pinched, and the server is paid for and was recently upgraded to allow 20gb bandwidth a month. More than enough for TTH, but better safe than sorry.

I'm waiting on phonics(/SvN?) to put some Google Adsense code on here so I'm not completely out of pocket but last I heard he said it wasn't a straight forward process and there were other things to iron out first.

That still doesn't answer the question(s). So, I can extrapolate from that:

1) You've paid for the server space and Phonics/SVN are going to give you the revenue from Google Adsense ads on the site to pay for it

2) The forum software is pirated. This means that, over time, vulnerabilities will be discovered and open up potential security breaches (hence why you had all the spam/redirect ads on the old site, and fuck knows what else that went undetected).

If we're only using <20Gb bandwidth per month, you can get the absolute latest vBulletin v5 software (which is cloud-hosted, so doesn't require physical server rental) for £13.14 per month (or only £118.55 for the year (£9.88 p/a) if you pay up front).

I'd quite happily pay that myself, or I'm sure you could raise it within about 3 hours with a quick donation request from people on here. Then there's no need to bother fucking about with ad tracking shit or other nonsense.

My concern is that the decisions being made are opaque, and not being made with more rigour in terms of technical savviness or prioritising user benefits over making back costs. It feels like a land grab.

Magic
03-10-2015, 10:26 AM
That would mean 24 people pay £5 a year to keep it up to scratch. The Ads would cover the hosting and bandwidth. Right? I'm game for that. Can we not have a forum bank account or something that we donate to?

Yevrah
03-10-2015, 10:29 AM
I see you're lurking SvN. What's your take on Raoul's points?

phonics
03-10-2015, 10:32 AM
My concern is that the decisions being made are opaque, and not being made with more rigour in terms of technical savviness or prioritising user benefits over making back costs. It feels like a land grab.

It feels like the forum died and only three people gave enough of a fuck to do anything about it you massive fucking cunt. What a twat.

SvN
03-10-2015, 10:39 AM
As generous as Mike and Baz are to host the website, I dislike the idea of a member being responsible for paying for hosting. What happens if they suddenly die in a car crash? Or Baz gets banned, pissed off and takes the board down? Or decides he can't afford the hosting any more?

I think we should lean towards a community funded board that has a few people in charge of hosting to make sure that we're not relying on individuals. We should be self sufficient, not relying on hand outs. I'd also rather keep the board ad free, this is the first I've heard of trading adspace for the server.

In terms of the pirated forum software - I can understand while we're currently using it. A license is not cheap, and requires ongoing costs, but if people were willing to contribute enough to pay for it (on an ongoing basis) then there's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be using it.

Raoul is absolutely right that using outdated software will inevitably cause security issues. Old versions of Wordpress, for instance, are hacked for fun these days, and we may very well eventually end up in the same position as TD - but we're some way off that right now. However, that doesn't mean we should wait until it is an issue before we do something.

SvN
03-10-2015, 10:53 AM
The 'view latest posts' option still hasn't been sorted and it's an important part of a messageboard. Other than that pretty good.

Step by step, what actions are you taking to "view thew latest posts" and in what way isn't it working?

Baz
03-10-2015, 11:29 AM
But it's already paid for :(

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 12:29 PM
Step by step, what actions are you taking to "view thew latest posts" and in what way isn't it working?

I'm just using my laptop. When I log in there are no new posts to view.

Byron
03-10-2015, 12:33 PM
If there is a serious discussion to be had on paying for a licence then I'll happily chip in. If I didn't have this place the boredom of work would kill me.

Lewis
03-10-2015, 12:33 PM
That community-funded board sounds like a beautiful dream.

GS
03-10-2015, 12:34 PM
Socialism in action, that.

I agree with the principle, however.

Ian
03-10-2015, 12:42 PM
But it's already paid for :(

This may have been covered but how much is already paid for?

Spammer
03-10-2015, 12:47 PM
I can get on this place at work so I love it.

Baz
03-10-2015, 12:53 PM
This may have been covered but how much is already paid for?
Next Payment: £69.98 inc.VAT (Biennial Renewal) - Due 06/09/2016

Depending on how much bandwidth is used (only time will tell) the hosting could be reduced from the Standard to the Lite option. Standard is £70 for two years (the maximum you can pay at once is two years) whereas Lite is £30.

Lite is far less webspace (500MB, whereas now we have 2.5GB), but again, I don't know how much will be used.

But to answer your question, another 12 months has already been paid for.

EDIT: If you're thinking :sherlock: he's saying he's paid £70 but we've only just moved here so there really should be 2 years lease paid for, I paid for the hosting when I set this (http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/forum/) up. I told Mike to offer the hosting to phonics, cos there was talk of setting up a new forum and of paying for it. I offered to host it, and continue paying for the server, so long as I get the ad revenue. I'm not too fussed about that, to be honest, but it would be really annoying to see this hosting go to waste, really.

Lewis
03-10-2015, 12:55 PM
So why isn't Baz running the show? I hope he at least has complete immunity.

Baz
03-10-2015, 01:00 PM
So why isn't Baz running the show? I hope he at least has complete immunity.Cos I don't want to.

And I don't need immunity, I just won't be a knob like I used to. :baz:

SvN
03-10-2015, 01:12 PM
I'm just using my laptop. When I log in there are no new posts to view.

This must be what it feels like to work in tech support.

Boydy
03-10-2015, 01:14 PM
Do you log in every time you come here, ScousePig? Why not just tick the 'remember me' option and stay logged in? Would that not help solve your problem here as well?

Magic
03-10-2015, 01:22 PM
And to think he's playing a key role in our children's future. :nono:

-james-
03-10-2015, 01:24 PM
Just pay for the legit version, Christ. As has been said, the contributions would be there in an afternoon.

Giggles
03-10-2015, 01:26 PM
My problem with the unread posts seems to be the opposite.

Example: I come to site at 13:00 on my phone, there's 23 posts with unread messages. I use the 'go to first unread post' link in the ones I want and all is good. There are 12 posts with unread messages that I didn't bother with.
I switch to my laptop at 14:30. The main page will show me the same threads with unread posts as I seen at 13:00 (plus whatever got posts in the mean time). If I click to go to a threads first new post, I land on the position I did the on the earlier occasion.
I never log out of the site on any device and this happens vice versa too.

Raoul Duke
03-10-2015, 01:47 PM
It feels like the forum died and only three people gave enough of a fuck to do anything about it you massive fucking cunt. What a twat.

Sweet. Good to see the place isn't being run by a petulant, reactionary dingbat again. I'm an actual adult - don't talk to me that way. Do the forum rules not apply to you? Is asking pertinent questions in a thread specifically devoted to the topic not ok?

I actually PM'd you (and a bunch of other mods) on the old place offering to help set the new site up prior to it going into terminal decline but only Kiko replied.


As generous as Mike and Baz are to host the website, I dislike the idea of a member being responsible for paying for hosting. What happens if they suddenly die in a car crash? Or Baz gets banned, pissed off and takes the board down? Or decides he can't afford the hosting any more?

I think we should lean towards a community funded board that has a few people in charge of hosting to make sure that we're not relying on individuals. We should be self sufficient, not relying on hand outs. I'd also rather keep the board ad free, this is the first I've heard of trading adspace for the server.

In terms of the pirated forum software - I can understand while we're currently using it. A license is not cheap, and requires ongoing costs, but if people were willing to contribute enough to pay for it (on an ongoing basis) then there's absolutely no reason why we shouldn't be using it.

Raoul is absolutely right that using outdated software will inevitably cause security issues. Old versions of Wordpress, for instance, are hacked for fun these days, and we may very well eventually end up in the same position as TD - but we're some way off that right now. However, that doesn't mean we should wait until it is an issue before we do something.

Thanks for the info.

Kudos to Mike, Baz, Phonics and you for sorting it out but it hasn't been clear who is doing what and, like Yev touched on the other day, it feels like people have been circumspect about answering that.

I'm sure people wouldn't mind chucking in a bit of cash to cover costs. They seem pretty manageable, from the info up thread.

Going from a board with an absent owner to one where it's not clear who is running the show and there's seemingly no plan on maintainability or upgradability of the existing (already outdated) software will inevitably lead to the same problem at some point down the line.


But it's already paid for :(


Next Payment: £69.98 inc.VAT (Biennial Renewal) - Due 06/09/2016

Depending on how much bandwidth is used (only time will tell) the hosting could be reduced from the Standard to the Lite option. Standard is £70 for two years (the maximum you can pay at once is two years) whereas Lite is £30.

Lite is far less webspace (500MB, whereas now we have 2.5GB), but again, I don't know how much will be used.

But to answer your question, another 12 months has already been paid for.

EDIT: If you're thinking :sherlock: he's saying he's paid £70 but we've only just moved here so there really should be 2 years lease paid for, I paid for the hosting when I set this (http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/forum/) up. I told Mike to offer the hosting to phonics, cos there was talk of setting up a new forum and of paying for it. I offered to host it, and continue paying for the server, so long as I get the ad revenue. I'm not too fussed about that, to be honest, but it would be really annoying to see this hosting go to waste, really.

That's what I thought was happening. I'm not trying to give you grief for it, and I do appreciate you guys taking time to get something set up. I'd have been to happy to help, as would many others I'm sure. Right now it's hard to know who to suggest things to when it's unclear who is organising things and I get a reply like Phonics' one I quoted earlier, when I'm trying to ask some questions or make some legit observations. My actual irl job is to run a website, so I do have some idea of what I'm talking about.

As I posted earlier, from what I can see you can run the entire thing (forum software + hosting) for around a tenner a month plus occasional domain renewals. It would make sense to consider moving to that in the long-term. What we have now is fine, but it would be better to move to a more robust set-up at some point.

phonics
03-10-2015, 02:03 PM
Sweet. Good to see the place isn't being run by a petulant, reactionary dingbat again. I'm an actual adult - don't talk to me that way. Do the forum rules not apply to you? Is asking pertinent questions in a thread specifically devoted to the topic not ok?

I actually PM'd you (and a bunch of other mods) on the old place offering to help set the new site up prior to it going into terminal decline but only Kiko replied.

I shouldn't have spoken like that. I'd just woken up and after a couple of months trying alternate solutions to get the board to stay exactly where it was, with no success (not for lack of Staff trying), then several 4am finishes setting the place up. It got to me to see it described as a land grab, as if I've done anything to make this 'my forum' let alone Baz who despite paying asked for nothing in return. Apologies, again.

Raoul Duke
03-10-2015, 02:23 PM
Thanks. It might not have been the best choice of phrase on my part, so no worries.

Like I said, I (and everyone posting) appreciate the work you guys have done to sort it out. I'm just trying to contribute some ideas of how things are and how they could be, but it's not been entirely clear who's able to make changes or what the current set-up was. It is now.

Happy to chip in with cash and/or effort, if required :thbup:

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 02:40 PM
This must be what it feels like to work in tech support.

Sorry mate. I had Morrison's no added sugar muesli for my breakfast, but it's not as nice as the Alpen stuff. But there wasn't much left so then I had to have two slices of wholemeal bread (toasted) with jam and butter (Lurpak) to make up. Then I had a bit of kip because I was tired from a pretty exhausting week at work, and then I felt refreshed so I got up and did a bit of work, and then I watched Seven Psychopaths which was pretty good but I've seen it before anyway. Then I watched You, Me and the Apocalypse and it was okay so I'll probably carry on watching again next week.

And then I logged on here.

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 02:41 PM
Do you log in every time you come here, ScousePig? Why not just tick the 'remember me' option and stay logged in? Would that not help solve your problem here as well?

As well as what? There is only one problem.

And I don't like staying logged in.

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 02:43 PM
My problem with the unread posts seems to be the opposite.

Example: I come to site at 13:00 on my phone, there's 23 posts with unread messages. I use the 'go to first unread post' link in the ones I want and all is good. There are 12 posts with unread messages that I didn't bother with.
I switch to my laptop at 14:30. The main page will show me the same threads with unread posts as I seen at 13:00 (plus whatever got posts in the mean time). If I click to go to a threads first new post, I land on the position I did the on the earlier occasion.
I never log out of the site on any device and this happens vice versa too.

The old board wasn't great either to be fair. It'd show you the new posts from when you last logged in, but if you didn't click a thread and then logged in again later, it'd only have the latest since your last login.

Magic
03-10-2015, 02:44 PM
:D

you freak, Scouse.

7om
03-10-2015, 02:48 PM
I know nothing about the technicalities of these things but it feels uneasy knowing we've got another potential TD situation on our hands. Let's set up donations and get the proper software. We'd raise the money easily.

Mike
03-10-2015, 02:50 PM
Thought you'd all like to see what this site look liked a few weeks ago when we first got started. If anything it's been downhill since...

http://i.minus.com/iBjiwC7CcV0bl.png

:cool:

Boydy
03-10-2015, 03:09 PM
As well as what? There is only one problem.

And I don't like staying logged in.

I was suggesting staying logged in because it's just easier. It might help your solve your problem of unread posts as well as being easier.

Boydy
03-10-2015, 03:10 PM
I don't really get the moaning about the latest posts thing anyway. How difficult is it to just scroll down and know what you've already seen? I don't use that function at all.

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 03:12 PM
Having to scroll through every thread to find where you last were is definitely a pain.

Giggles
03-10-2015, 03:25 PM
I don't really get the moaning about the latest posts thing anyway. How difficult is it to just scroll down and know what you've already seen? I don't use that function at all.

Says the guy who has just said it's too awkward to read across a screen.

It's a pain in the hole not working right. Not so much for the way it's broken for me, but that'd be a big deal if I had it the way Scouse does.

Pepe
03-10-2015, 03:41 PM
I'll chip in.

Boydy
03-10-2015, 03:51 PM
Says the guy who has just said it's too awkward to read across a screen.

It's a pain in the hole not working right. Not so much for the way it's broken for me, but that'd be a big deal if I had it the way Scouse does.
I wasn't having a dig at you, just at Scouse cause he's a gimp.

But: http://www.parentcenterhub.org/repository/web-reading/

People read down on the web.

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 03:57 PM
I wasn't having a dig at you, just at Scouse cause he's a gimp.

But: http://www.parentcenterhub.org/repository/web-reading/

People read down on the web.

:pards:

The Merse
03-10-2015, 03:58 PM
That would mean 24 people pay £5 a year to keep it up to scratch. The Ads would cover the hosting and bandwidth. Right? I'm game for that. Can we not have a forum bank account or something that we donate to?

Not a problem at all - more than happy to put my hand in my pocket when others have done the work to migrate us successfully.

Similarly, it's nice to see everyone making an effort.

We're closer to the TTH I first visited six years ago than at any other point since then in terms of activity and effort, albeit it's probably a more positive atmosphere.

ScousePig
03-10-2015, 04:01 PM
I'll give some money if you sort one thing out.

Sir Andy Mahowry
03-10-2015, 04:04 PM
I've never been able to do a narrow skin.

It's just so wrong seeing so much wasted space.

Go and buy a CRT gimps.

Kikó
03-10-2015, 05:11 PM
Don't accept Pepe's money. We saw what happened with HSBC and Mexican money laundering.

I'm in for any costs.

Luca
03-10-2015, 05:17 PM
I'll chip in. We should use this (https://www.tilt.com/).

Mazuuurk
03-10-2015, 09:13 PM
I'd be happy to contribute of course.


We should make like all the admins get the credentials to the trustfund, or something.

GS
03-10-2015, 10:10 PM
Yev's an accountant, so one assumes he'd be trustworthy. Or Lee, given he has an actual job of responsibility.

I could as well, but I don't want the hassle.

Lewis
03-10-2015, 10:12 PM
It's probably easier to list who we can't trust. I'll start: Mahow.

Magic
03-10-2015, 10:19 PM
Lol @ trusting an autistic continent hopper like GS.

Mazuuurk
03-10-2015, 10:53 PM
I'd trust most people on here with it to be honest, but I think there needs to be several people involved as one of them could - as SvN pointed out - disappear for one reason or another, dramatic or not.

The last thing we want is another Mark-scenario.

phonics
04-10-2015, 10:39 AM
At the end of the day, you're all struggling to give Baz some change.

Pen
04-10-2015, 11:16 AM
I don't really mind who handles the money as even in the unlikely worst case scenario that they'll take the money and run everyone ends up losing a few quid.

Make it all voluntarily and throw a * in there saying that the donation doesn't give you any power or privileges on the board. I'm sure you could rack up enough money in one go to keep this place running for a few years. Even if we do go titis up during that time, the money is probably the least of anyones worries.

Pen
04-10-2015, 11:17 AM
Also I'm loving the new the fact that we just had to migrate to Mali to become this online socialist utopia :drool:

Giggles
05-10-2015, 07:10 AM
I'm just using my laptop. When I log in there are no new posts to view.

Funny enough I had this for the first time this morning. I went to be around 23:30 last night but this morning when I came on I'm only showing posts made after 07:30 as new. Anything in between is showing as read.

Benny
05-10-2015, 07:54 AM
I nominate myself as cash master.

Adamski
05-10-2015, 09:57 AM
Funny enough I had this for the first time this morning. I went to be around 23:30 last night but this morning when I came on I'm only showing posts made after 07:30 as new. Anything in between is showing as read.

This is happening for me today too.

Giggles
05-10-2015, 10:00 AM
I see other vBulletin forums are having big issues currently too, so maybe it's something wider ranging today then.

Magic
25-01-2016, 05:24 PM
Any update on us moving to the latest version of VBulletin to stop us getting fucked?

phonics
25-01-2016, 06:22 PM
What?

Magic
25-01-2016, 06:24 PM
Lightbulb.

Baz
25-01-2016, 06:32 PM
Lightbulb.http://i.imgur.com/RKyE248.jpg

Magic
25-01-2016, 06:33 PM
So SvN or Baz can you answer?

phonics
25-01-2016, 06:34 PM
Genuinely what are you talking about?

Baz
25-01-2016, 06:37 PM
So SvN or Baz can you answer?No progress has been made, and as far as I'm aware there are no plans to upgrade.

I PM'd the people who'd be responsible for the upgrade, and someone even came forward offering to pay the whole cost of the license, but nothing has happened.

As far as I'm aware, I'll just extend the plan I have for the hosting in September or whenever it's up, and we'll continue as we are for the foreseeable. SvN will do the same for the domain. If you're not happy with that, if you make enough noise maybe someone will listen, but I hardly think it's worth stressing over because we're hardly a well-known forum with lots of enemies.

phonics
25-01-2016, 06:42 PM
Oh I did a Google. They're referring to the cloud based vBulletin 5 that has been hacked. We're on a vBulletin 4 that has zero of your information.

Don Norberto
27-01-2016, 09:58 AM
Place looks nice and all, content still the same bollocks as at TD. Which is great to see. :)