Saturday 26/6 (Championship Play-off & CL finals)

[Pepe]

Juventus.

[Magic]

Juventus.

Mmm can't see him managing in Serie A.

[SincereTheRebel]

Hold on. Talk of salah being out of the world cup with a dislocated shoulder? I'm not very smart, but from what I can remember. Dislocated shoulders can be popped back in and you can continue perfectly fine in a few minutes. One of you man is a doctor I'm sure. (is it ItalAussie?) please confirm a diagnostics.

[Spikey M]

Hold on. Talk of salah being out of the world cup with a dislocated shoulder? I'm not very smart, but from what I can remember. Dislocated shoulders can be popped back in and you can continue perfectly fine in a few minutes. One of you man is a doctor I'm sure. (is it ItalAussie?) please confirm a diagnostics.

I’ve never dislocated my shoulder, but I’ve dislocated my knee more times than I care to remember. Even in the event I’m lucky enough that it goes back in on its own, it’s atleast a couple of weeks before I can comfortably walk on it, never mind run around. It’s swollen, agony to move and stiff as fuck (OI OI) for the first 5 days or so. It’s bloody difficult to dislocate something without damaging ligaments or tendons in the process as well.

[Baz]

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your fucking sons deserve die of cancer, you motherfucker

[Dquincy]

Loving that seethe.
You need a dictionary.

[Dquincy]

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your fucking sons deserve die of cancer, you motherfucker

Why a tram?

[Dquincy]

Slightly deflated after that match last night. After the Salah ASSAULT the match was lost for Liverpool.

Real's experience and slyness out did us. Not to mention a worldie and a meltdown.

[Disco]

It was very sly of them to be a much better team.

[Waffdon]

Sergio Ramos the greatest ever captain.

[Giggles]

Twitter and Facebook are outstanding reading. People calling Ramos scum and then saying someonenshould have broken his legs in the same breath. Never change, you entertaining crackpot bastards.

[CJay]

How many times was Ramos ‘fouled’ last night? Not sure how officials still fall for his thing. He is such a twat.

Anyway, disappointing. Firmino didn’t really turn up and we didn’t make the most of our good start. Would have liked to see Can on earlier for a bit of drive in midfield as Wijnaldum wasn’t really adding anything. Lallana is clearly a spent force, but hopefully a summer off will help him. Alexander-Arnold and Robertson were both superb.

I find it hard to put into words how ordinary Real Madrid are. This obviously sounds stupid after winning last night for the 4th time in 5 years, but others here have said similar. Liverpool defended pretty much perfectly last night, undone by a one-in-a-million strike and two pathetic errors. Only once we had to really chase the game towards the end did they begin to look dangerous.

Lol at the pitch invader at the end preventing Ronaldo from scoring and getting his shirt off. Small victories.

[Raoul Duke]

Amusing to see Liverpool fans as graceless and frothing at the gums with conspiracy theories as usual. The Ramos challenge on Salah was an accident.

My theory is that Klopp's style of management leads to teams not being able to mentally cope when they truly hit a big pressure moment, hence why his teams have bottled it so much in finals. They get so overwrought with The Occasion and Passion that when they come up against a team full of cynical pros they get turned over.

Real won because they handled the pressure and had a (much) better squad.

[CJay]

Amusing to see Liverpool fans as graceless and frothing at the gums with conspiracy theories as usual. The Ramos challenge on Salah was an accident.

My theory is that Klopp's style of management leads to teams not being able to mentally cope when they truly hit a big pressure moment, hence why his teams have bottled it so much in finals. They get so overwrought with The Occasion and Passion that when they come up against a team full of cynical pros they get turned over.

Real won because they handled the pressure and had a (much) better squad.

Obviously Ramos didn’t mean to dislocate Salah’s shoulder, but he definitely knew what he was doing. Ramos has shown time and time again that he has no problem potentially hurting somebody - remember him kicking Messi at the end of the 5-0?

Apart from the Europa final against Sevilla -(although it was Sevilla after all) it’s always been defeats to mega clubs who are far better equipped than Klopp’s teams. I’m not worried about his record in finals. I don’t think anyone else would get us anywhere near as far as Klopp did.

[John]

We were debating the Zidane/Bale thing where I was watching it, as soon as he scored it. I was the only person in the room who thought Zidane's was better, but it was.

That same debate was had where I was and I was also the lone voice of sense. Bale's goal was terrific, but that Zidane strike was just ridiculous. You can imagine some physical beast of limited ability fluking something like Bale's, but Zidane's was pure technique of a level very few players could even imagine producing.

[Waffdon]

Klopp’s a bigger chancer than ‘Pep’.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Zidane is exactly the sort of manager Real Madrid need: a massive name that has the gravitas to keep the players in check, but also big enough (unlike, say, Mourinho) to rise above the basket case politics. They should keep him forever.

When I was in Spain in January he seemed to be right on the point of being fired, but the PSG win turned it all around.

[Shindig]

He could just headbutt the boardroom into submission. There's a key difference to last night's sides: Salah went off and they had no real talisman to fall back on. Meanwhile, Madrid had Bale on the bench and Ronaldo was seething all night when nobody passed to him. It's a team that's been largely the same for three years, too. Liverpool are always looking to replace someone big (Suarez, Coutinho, Sterling, etc.) and they all seem a little disjointed. Although I think Lovren and Van Dijk look like a unit, the rest of the squad lacks cohesion.

It's a shame. What Liverpool were doing in the first half was a proper team job. Pressing together and really upsetting Real. Salah wasn't running the show.

[Lewis]

Niko should have blogged his 'Binman in a Blazer' theory and founded a business school off it.

[Shindig]

I'm going to see if the council have any jobs going. I want to be PSG coach within two years. Or at least Toon boss.

[Kikó]

Hold on. Talk of salah being out of the world cup with a dislocated shoulder? I'm not very smart, but from what I can remember. Dislocated shoulders can be popped back in and you can continue perfectly fine in a few minutes. One of you man is a doctor I'm sure. (is it ItalAussie?) please confirm a diagnostics.

You've watched too much Die Hard.

Zidane will probably fail elsewhere other than another great team - maybe Juve or the National teams he'd be fine. When he has to replace some of those guys will be the test, can he actually build a team (or want to).

[SincereTheRebel]

I should have known. Players miss games because of dead legs, thinking about it. Moat of them are made of glass.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've never seen a moat made of glass.

[SincereTheRebel]

Most

[Gray Fox]

Well last night was disappointing. It was going alright until Salah went off. They looked out of ideas after that really.

A few chickens came home to roost. Klopps trust in Karius backfired big time, but I am absolutely certain he'll still start him come August. He doesn't seem the type to hang his guys out to dry. That and Mignolet must have killed his dog or something.
Having the same player 3 times over in midfield only gets you so far as well. The selling to buy policy also came up. Madrid could bring one of the best players in the world on off the bench, whilst we got a couple of half fit guys who have barely played in 2018. And it was them or Dom Solanke.

That and it was one of those games where it all went wrong.

We could use a summer of big spending, but no selling. I can't wait for the Salah sale stories to start.

[Baz]

Salah’s going nowhere til he lifts the PL trophy in a red shirt. :joy:

[Lewis]

That would be some statement if Cardiff could pull that off.

[Boydy]

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[randomlegend]

I should have known. Players miss games because of dead legs, thinking about it. Moat of them are made of glass.

Lol. A dislocated shoulder is a serious injury. He's not just poncing about.

[SincereTheRebel]

I was around a room full of Liverpool fans. I was being harsh on salah at the time. I blamed it all on fasting and his bones being weak because he isn't eating.

[Giggles]

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Hard to see with the glare off the tinfoil hats.

[Browning]

I’m sure that challenge by Ramos had a direct impact on his decision to basically chuck the ball into his own net.

[P_3]

If you use slow motion you can just about see Ramos slipping Karius a bunch of notes in that challenge.

[Kikó]

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Watch his head. Back and to the left.

[Dquincy]

That same debate was had where I was and I was also the lone voice of sense. Bale's goal was terrific, but that Zidane strike was just ridiculous. You can imagine some physical beast of limited ability fluking something like Bale's, but Zidane's was pure technique of a level very few players could even imagine producing.

Total nonsense. Zidane had all the time and space he wanted with his goal. The quick thinking and agility of Bale's contributes to his being the better goal.

[Dquincy]

I was around a room full of Liverpool fans. I was being harsh on salah at the time. I blamed it all on fasting and his bones being weak because he isn't eating.
Good one.

Despite last night, I'd much rather support a Liverpool managed by Klopp, than watch the boring shite Man Utd produce under Mourinho.

[SincereTheRebel]

Watch his head. Back and to the left.

:D


Total nonsense. Zidane had all the time and space he wanted with his goal. The quick thinking and agility of Bale's contributes to his being the better goal.

Bale’s goal was better based on the limited time he had.

[SincereTheRebel]

It was funny when the Liverpool goalkeeper was crying around the field, I didn't see any Liverpool players with him. I must have missed it but i imagine Klopp consulted him on the field.

[SvN]

Last night really was glorious. I was pissed as a fart and couldn't stop laughing every time I watched the 1st and 3rd goals back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Last night I felt Bale's was better but it had just happened. On reflection I give the edge to Zidane. The concentration waiting for it to drop, the placement and how he hit it was just perfect.

[SincereTheRebel]

Last night I felt Bale's was better but it had just happened. On reflection I give the edge to Zidane. The concentration waiting for it to drop, the placement and how he hit it was just perfect.

You can say the same about the goal from Bale. Zidane had to think long and hard about what he wanted to do. Bale had to think fast and quick which is why I give him the edge.

[Spikey M]

He only thing that gives Zidanes the edge for me is that a good goalkeeper would probably have saved Bales.

[Lewis]

How is Zidane having time to weigh it up a mark against it? Especially when the ball was coming straight out of the sky, meaning all of the power and placement was from him.

[Luke Emia]

Loving that seethe.

Not sure how it's a seethe? For what it's worth I think Madrid win,even without two goals being thrown in the back of the net they were clearly the better team. We played ok for half hour with Salah but they always looked comfortable to me.

As for Ramos he obviously doesn't know he's going to injure him, but it's a cynical challenge and I think anyone can see that. Not even sure the ref gave a foul did he?

[SincereTheRebel]

He won the ball clearly in the tackle. He just decided to put salah in a sneaky crippler crossface on the way down

[Dark Soldier]

Tbf Salah is just as much up for hooking arms as Ramos but nope Ramos is basically Anderson Silva or some other mental shit.

https://i.imgur.com/GCfzzZy.jpg

[Spikey M]

Lol

[Smiffy]

Karius is broken.

[Kikó]

About five minutes in last night, Lovren went straight through the back of Ronaldo. It's a defender roughing up a forward.

Anyway, I'm sure it's just a Liverpool conspiracy.

[Giggles]

Ramos is the first player ever to foul or injure someone by the looks of things today.

[Smiffy]

About five minutes in last night, Lovren went straight through the back of Ronaldo. It's a defender roughing up a forward.

Anyway, I'm sure it's just a Liverpool conspiracy.

Injuries happen init and it was 0-0 at that point so give a toss.

If 2005 had never happened I might be more pissed but it's the same as the 2007 one for me now.

I hope for romantic purposes that Karius turns it around and we get there again but meh.

[Kikó]

Next year is your year.

[SincereTheRebel]

I've barely noticed karius all season. I thought he would be the cup keeper but he has featured in half the premier games looking at his stats. For some reason, I thought he was Estonian :cab:

[ItalAussie]

You can say the same about the goal from Bale. Zidane had to think long and hard about what he wanted to do. Bale had to think fast and quick which is why I give him the edge.

It was an overhead kick. You thwack it at the goal and pray.

Zidane wins for me.

[Smiffy]

Next year is your year.

One year we'll be right.

[Dquincy]

About five minutes in last night, Lovren went straight through the back of Ronaldo. It's a defender roughing up a forward.

Anyway, I'm sure it's just a Liverpool conspiracy.

Just a Man Utd conspiracy. Or bitterness.

[Kikó]

I've got nothing to be bitter about. Last night was a great tragicomedy.

[SincereTheRebel]

It was hilariously sad for both Aston Villa and Liverpool.

[Giggles]

It was hilariously sad for both Aston Villa and Liverpool.

It's proof that sometimes good things do happen.

[Giggles]

Want one of those jerseys :cool:


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[Shindig]

I like how none of them look happy.

[Mazuuurk]

I've barely noticed karius all season. I thought he would be the cup keeper but he has featured in half the premier games looking at his stats. For some reason, I thought he was Estonian :cab:

I also thought this all this time. I've no idea why now though.

[Giggles]

I like how none of them look happy.

That's because Mark Lawrenson is there.

[Ian]

Cracking goal to put Coventry ahead. :cool:

[Disco]

Fuck you Ian.

[phonics]

Fuck you Ian.

A fight between SD & Wullie is tough but you lose a point for every extra pair of jeans worn by Boom.

[Ian]

And another belter. Soz Disco mate.

[Spikey M]

Coventry deserve nothing nice, so fuck this.

[Lewis]

Barry Scouser offering Sergio Ramos out on Twitter caps the weekend nicely. What a shower of absolute twats.

[Disco]

The comeback is on lads.

[Giggles]

Derrick Williams. I'm going to guess Blackburn, something rings a bell there.

Not a fucking clue what league Doyle even plays in.


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[Giggles]

Looked him up there to see if he was actually Irish or if he was English and 2nd or 3rd gen and this was not what I was expecting.


Williams was born in Hamburg, Germany in 1993,[4] to an Irish mother and an American father. With his father serving in the United States Army at the time

[Spikey M]

Brave of his dad to shag a Nazi sympathiser.

[Giggles]

War.

[Giggles]

There's the floodgates opened.

EDIT: And Doyle does a bit of a Karius on it.



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[Raoul Duke]

The yoghurt knitters are out in force: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44285455

(ps why isn't there a Group G thread yet, Reg, ffs)

[Mazuuurk]

Given his clearly valid reason for doing it (other of course than being allowed to tattoo whatever the fuck he want's on himself after all), it seems like that prissy lady is clamping pretty deep into the mud here.

[Magic]

Is she a mud shark?

[Mazuuurk]

Clomping*

[Lewis]

'We demand he has the tattoo lasered off or covered up with a different tattoo' is the best demand ever. Yeah, love. We'll get right on it.

[Mazuuurk]

He should cover it up with a bigger Gun.

[Magic]

He should put a large machete on the other leg to antagonise the anti-knife cunts as well.

[Baz]

The yoghurt knitters are out in force: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44285455

(ps why isn't there a Group G thread yet, Reg, ffs)1001398445175984128

[SvN]

Jesus Christ.

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[Giggles]

That's about as low as I've seen.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's not even the right weapon.

[Disco]

Club is bought by a bunch of thugs and murderers - No comment
Man has picture of gun - BAN THIS SICK FILTH!!!

[Lewis]

This is a wank story, but pulling up all the other stories about him to create a 'victimisation' story is equally wank. He lives a pretty colourful life by the standards of the rest of the England squad, who he also earns more than and is mostly better than, so he is obviously going to be a paper-seller. The other week they were trying to read racism into how they referred to Harry 'Harry Kane' Kane having a nice fiancee in comparison to Raheem Sterling having a 'long-suffering' girlfriend, as if Kane also has a history of filling women in and having club fixers pay prostitutes off.

[John]

It's a bit lol for them to have a go at him for both buying a cheap plane ticket and hiring his own plane.

[phonics]

Piers Morgan is raging about it. I guess he's just pro-cannon based warfare rather than guns.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44315033

:lol: I’d fucking love it if this ruined them, love it.

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/keeganrant_450x300.jpg

[Waffdon]

Doubt they’d struggle to find another billionaire owner.

[Spikey M]

Depends. In an ideal world he flogs it to someone useless, calls in his loans and they Portsmouth the fuck out of the scenario.

[wullie]

Hell of a week.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We're fairly fucked with him. A rampage down League One would be terrific, though.

[Lewis]

GS always said this would happen. He is probably stood up at home like Hugh Jackman taking his applause under the stage.

[Raoul Duke]

We're fairly fucked with him. A rampage down League One would be terrific, though.

Terry as player manager, versus Scunthorpe on a wet Tuesday at your ground share with Fulham

[Jimmy Floyd]

GS always said this would happen. He is probably stood up at home like Hugh Jackman taking his applause under the stage.

He may be disappointed, as if Abramovich leaves then he'll just sell up to some Malaysians or whatever. His best bet is Roman hanging on for dear life.

[Disco]

Hell of a week.

You're welcome.

[phonics]

Speaking of Chelsea owners. Anyone see Ken Bates' comments on the racism/bullying charges? His ability to say the most cuntish thing at any time is quite impressive.

[Lewis]

Ken Bates was lolling off 'controversy' (as it was known then) before the OUTRAGE crowd were even born, so they might have met their match this time.

[Giggles]

Burke missing a club game to play against the USA is an odd one, especially when Rovers are badly in need of wins.

[Lewis]

lol as if Ramos might actually have knocked him senseless.

[niko_cee]

Aye.

Ghost Ramos must have done the same thing to him in the first leg against Roma when he did the same thing (re the second spaffing).

Did this collision occur before or after Karius rolled the ball out in exactly the same way (as the comedy disaster) just before Isco hit the bar?

I've not read through this thread (obvious reasons), what was the opinion on the chicken wing? The Australians were all over it but I just can't see it myself, even adjusting for how mush of a sneaky git Ramos can be.

[Baz]

lol at Chris Sutton telling him to pipe down and keep it to himself.

[Shindig]

If he was concussed, it's his own fault for playing on.

[Giggles]

Someone made a good point during the week about Salah taking some of the blame for being a complete 'me me me' twat and going off the field bawling like a child, instead of trying to rouse the rest of the team a bit. Most players are complete fucking pussies these days.

[Mazuuurk]

In fairness, it would for sure have been a very mild concussion. Or he should have blacked out from the initial hit. And, being in a CL final for the first time and being pumped up on adrenaline, I'm sure you tend to ignore the shoulder-angel telling you you prolly shouldn't play on, mate. Maybe he made it "worse" by playing on, mind you.

Of course it all stinks a bit of him whacking his own head into the wall when he got home and heading off to the doctor the morning after.



As for Ramos, I don't think he did any of all this "intentionally" as such, I think he's just a fucking sharp-elbowed and cynical defender who plays a bit rough. There's no way - even him - would think during the split second where him and Salah locks arms that "ah brilliant, this happens to be a perfect occasion to perform the forbidden Judo moves to dislocate shoulders!". As for the head-whacking of Karius, it was hard to see I think but it doesn't look all too intentional either, more like he's roughing about and accidentally hits Karius (who is behind him IIRC).

[Mazuuurk]

Someone made a good point during the week about Salah taking some of the blame for being a complete 'me me me' twat and going off the field bawling like a child, instead of trying to rouse the rest of the team a bit. Most players are complete fucking pussies these days.

Yeah. I mean, I can sort of understand him of course - given Egypts, what, first ever world cup is coming up thanks more or less to him. But still, you look at that time Ronaldo got injured and came off in the Euros and just went fuck it and became a fucking spastic on the bench, spurring the team on. I think there was some footage from that tournament that came out as well where he's basically motivating the whole team and telling people in the dressing room relax you can do it etc, sort of fucking with my otherwise very set perception that he's the massivest of cunts.

[niko_cee]

Didn't Ronaldo cry when he went off?

[Giggles]

Didn't Ronaldo cry when he went off?

He mostly likely did. But he's regarded as king cunt while Salah is all good things to all men.

There's just far too much bawling and public apologising and all that shite these days anyway. Fucking children.

[Mazuuurk]

Didn't Ronaldo cry when he went off?

Quite possible. But at least he did something after that to help the team instead of sulking somewhere.

[niko_cee]

So what you're saying is that, having sustained a shoulder injury, and fretting about his fitness for the World Cup, Salah should have been out on the touchline whirling his arms about?

And this would have stopped Karius fucking up?

Real Madrid are no France, sadly.

[Mazuuurk]

I'm not saying that exactly no. I'm just saying there's some merit to Giggles claim that a lot of players are pussies these days is all. And maybe he didn't need to flail his arms about, but maybe he could have shown some spirit as well, told Lallana fuck it you're up, you can do this, whatever. I just took Ronaldo as an example of a player who is also generally mopey who even him managed to show some fight in a deciding moment.


Of course, it's hard to dislike Salah for anything he does anyway, and it's easy to dislike Ramos. But the latter is a winner and a leader and the former is not, that's just how it is.

[phonics]

On a much more interesting subject:

The Big Nev Southall interview is great.


“That was brought up by some prick,” Southall snorts. “Piers Morgan is a prick. What gives him the right to say what can be on your body? If Sterling had tattooed a massive cock on his leg I would say: ‘It reminds me of Piers Morgan.’”

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jun/04/neville-southall-flak-sex-workers-lgbt-issues

[Raoul Duke]

I don't get why people hate Ramos (aside from priapic Liverpool fans and their conspiracy theories). He's a fucking awesome defender, scores goals, gets sent off for mashing people and has won everything. Outstanding player.

[Baz]

He was on about Piers Morgan.

[Disco]

I love the idea that it makes any difference what a player does when he goes off, it's not a fucking film script guys.

[phonics]

I love the idea that it makes any difference what a player does when he goes off, it's not a fucking film script guys.

They get a +5% bonus to 'Inspiration' when wearing the armband so maybe it's a -5 to your dexterity saving throw for every player that cries?

[Disco]

+1 Bandage of Inspiration

[wullie]

Blood Mode: On

https://i.imgur.com/cCQNcC9.png

[phonics]

I knew cameras were bad in the 90s but...

[randomlegend]

Poor guy. Clattered so hard in the head he was pixelated for the rest of his life.

[Baz]

That’s a screenshot from Carmageddon innit?

[wullie]

The Spectrum port wasn't up to much.

https://i.imgur.com/PTrw4v9.jpg

[Disco]

They didn't understand the true dangers of concussion in those days.

[Raoul Duke]

Concussed so hard he turned into Minecraft. RIP with the angles :(

[CJay]

I don't get why people hate Ramos (aside from priapic Liverpool fans and their conspiracy theories). He's a fucking awesome defender, scores goals, gets sent off for mashing people and has won everything. Outstanding player.

It isn’t anything to do with his playing ability. He’s a tremendous player. Did you see him falling over pathetically to get Cuadrado sent off in the final last year? It’s clear why people hate him. He’s an utter twat.

[John]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sergio-ramos-finally-discusses-mohamed-14746994.amp

:D

[Giggles]

I got as far as him starting with 'Bloody Hell' and realised they're probably making the quotes up.

[Spikey M]

The gift that keeps giving.

[Baz]

https://as.com/futbol/2018/06/05/seleccion/1528204201_400388.html


Will Firmino say he got a cold because he caught a drop of my sweat?

[bruhnaldo]

Bloody hell, there's no way those are real but i'm lol'ing either way.

[bruhnaldo]

"He could have played if he got an injection for the second half, I have done it sometimes but when Sergio Ramos does something like this, it sticks a little bit more."

Why didn't they just add "...'and Sergio Ramos thinks you're a bitch,' uttered Ramos." lmaooo