La Liga Broadcasting Rights

[Magic]

So THE HOME OF FOOTBALL pretty much only shows some Premier League games now, having just lost La Liga to the company that owns LUFC (lol!). Apparently they only had to pay £18million per year. He wants to air it on Netflix or something I read.

Pretty shambolic but it would be good if they could do some sort of Football Italia remake, as it smacks of how that all came about.

[Giggles]

That shite better not end up making Netflix more expensive.

[SincereTheRebel]

That shite better not end up making Netflix more expensive.

Of course it will.

[Pepe]

How much is cable nowadays? $100? That's how much Netflix and the like will end up costing sooner or later.

[Magic]

Netflix: Sports+

[Giggles]

Netflix: Sports+

That would be great as a separate subscription you could just ignore but unfortunately Sincere is probably righr. They buy these things to get people to subscribe to their platform so it's bound to be all wrapped up together at double the price and upwards.

[Magic]

Nah that's not right, it would put people off if they had to pay more for things they don't watch, that's literally the whole point of these packages.

[Giggles]

Everyone that subscribes to Netflix is already paying for loads of things they don't watch.

[-james-]

Sport coverage ending up being internet-only is the stuff of nightmares.

[Magic]

Sport coverage ending up being internet-only is the stuff of nightmares.

It is for the UK anyway with our appalling speeds.

[Magic]

Everyone that subscribes to Netflix is already paying for loads of things they don't watch.

Missing the point entirely.

[Raoul Duke]

I have no idea who these chancers are, but would be up for having sports integrated in Netflix. BT Sport is ok, as an additional service.

[Pepe]

I would also like to have sports in Netflix, since I don't have access to any sort of TV programming. Reminds me that I will need to figure out a way to watch the World Cup.

[Jimmy Floyd]

No one will watch anything like this on Netflix.

The smart sporting organisations now are cutting out the middle man. I pay about £40-50 a year for the entire baseball season (which is a lot) live and on demand on MLB.TV. F1 are doing something similar in many countries. I think NFL have something similar as well.

Another point to make is that live TV figures (in general, not necessarily for sport) simply aren't in decline in the way tech giants want them to be. Most people watch only BBC/ITV live and nothing else whatsoever.

[Pepe]

I pay for Eurosport just to watch the cycling. :uhoh:

[Giggles]

No one will watch anything like this on Netflix.

The smart sporting organisations now are cutting out the middle man. I pay about £40-50 a year for the entire baseball season (which is a lot) live and on demand on MLB.TV. F1 are doing something similar in many countries. I think NFL have something similar as well.

Another point to make is that live TV figures (in general, not necessarily for sport) simply aren't in decline in the way tech giants want them to be. Most people watch only BBC/ITV live and nothing else whatsoever.

The NFL version (gamepass) is a massive pile of shit. Does the baseball one work ok?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The baseball one is dreamy, to be honest. Real time stats at the bottom, choice of TV/radio commentary for home and away teams, never yet had it break down on me.

[Boydy]

Sport coverage ending up being internet-only is the stuff of nightmares.

Why?

[Disco]

Mine is already internet only, works just fine. Terrible for advertisers and anyone who wants to make money from advertising but I'm not hugely concerned with that.

[Magic]

The baseball one is dreamy, to be honest. Real time stats at the bottom, choice of TV/radio commentary for home and away teams, never yet had it break down on me.

Ooh my Lord. Imagine if you could do that with Soccer.

360 player cams? Live telemetry? :drool:

[-james-]

Why?

Internet still isn't reliable. I don't want to have to worry about keeping a stream running at 720p. It's just a system far more prone to not working. The worst bit though is that streams are invariably at least 10 seconds behind satellite pictures.

For every great MLB streaming service there's an awful NHL one.

[John]

The baseball one is dreamy, to be honest. Real time stats at the bottom, choice of TV/radio commentary for home and away teams, never yet had it break down on me.

Get a baseball thread on the go. There are enough games to justify it. And if nothing else it can serve as a place for people to see that gif of Baez tagging someone while celebrating the throw.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Ooh my Lord. Imagine if you could do that with Soccer.

360 player cams? Live telemetry? :drool:

Here is what I have at the moment as I've stuck Twins and Blue Jays on in the background for some reason:

https://i.imgur.com/tsaLajq.png

I can switch between the live games along the top (then within that switch between commentaries if I need to hear a particular shade of bias), the picture itself is crystal clear HD which also goes into full screen well if I want, on the score thing at the bottom I can click on each inning to watch it 'as live' from there, and the player stats are similarly 'as live'.

Baseball is particularly good at this stuff, probably because it dribbles on and there is so much of it (no real AND IT'S LIVE factor), but there's no reason other sports couldn't do similar.

[Lewis]

What else did you consider when you were scouring the world for something even sadder than golf, cricket, and Formula One?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They all have something in common which is a high brain factor and the fact that they unfold over a long period. These things appeal to me. Tennis and boxing are dull as fuck.

[Lewis]

Domestic ice hockey might have been worth exploring.

[Pepe]

Standing on left field for hours on end sure requires massive brainpower.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Domestic ice hockey might have been worth exploring.

Shit sport too fast, although having said that I know someone who is a massive Guildford Flames fan and I don't think I'll ever sink that low.

Is speedway still going? That used to be proper shite.

[Pepe]

Cycling fits both the "brain factor" and the taking forever for anything to happen. Get on it so that we can discuss the polka dot jersey competition while the plebs go crazy over the World Cup.

[Giggles]

Cycling fits both the "brain factor" and the taking forever for anything to happen. Get on it so that we can discuss the polka dot jersey competition while the plebs go crazy over the World Cup.

Nothing fucking happens in cycling.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I dabbled in cycling about ten years ago but as a spectator sport it's just hopeless. Almost as bad as yachting.

[Ian]

My mum and dad used to love speedway to the point that in the days of wedding receptions not going on until everybody wishes they were dead they actually went on their wedding day.

I went once in Glasgow despite motorsport not really being my thing and actually quite enjoyed it but it helped that it was really close and was only won on the last race.

[phonics]

Domestic ice hockey might have been worth exploring.

Don't talk shit about the Guildford Flames. I went to my first match and there was a fight that emptied the whole bench.

[Lewis]

Shit sport too fast, although having said that I know someone who is a massive Guildford Flames fan and I don't think I'll ever sink that low.

Is speedway still going? That used to be proper shite.

It's difficult to watch on the telly, but if you went to Guildford Flames matches you could take some binoculars and write everything down like a train spotter.

[Giggles]

In fairness, soccer (football) is one of the most boring spectator sports going most of the time and we all seem to like it, so nobody should really be throwing stones at the rest of them.

[phonics]

I always forget for a bit and then Jimmy makes the same local reference as I do without me noticing and it weirds me out. Maybe I was his weirdo friend who and I'll never know.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's difficult to watch on the telly, but if you went to Guildford Flames matches you could take some binoculars and write everything down like a train spotter.

Now here's something I've just remembered. My brother was roped in to present some sort of award before a Coventry Whatevers match (presumably because he has an army uniform), went out onto the ice in army boots, and stacked it in front of what he says was 3,000. I've never been more regretful about failing to attend west midlands ice hockey.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I always forget for a bit and then Jimmy makes the same local reference as I do without me noticing and it weirds me out. Maybe I was his weirdo friend who and I'll never know.

Weren't you from the shit end of Woking or something? No chance.

[phonics]

Weren't you from the shit end of Woking or something? No chance.

That was nickfootie I think. Godalming. GU7 1JY represent

[Jimmy Floyd]

He was involved with Godalming FC so he must have been from around there. That side of Guildford is alright. In fact, nationally, it's all a fucking paradise isn't it.

[phonics]

Apparently Guildfords a fucking disaster area, Newport levels of depravity, on a Friday night but I haven't been back there in the age range where I would have been forced to participate in such chicanery.

[Boydy]

Internet still isn't reliable. I don't want to have to worry about keeping a stream running at 720p. It's just a system far more prone to not working. The worst bit though is that streams are invariably at least 10 seconds behind satellite pictures.

For every great MLB streaming service there's an awful NHL one.
Ah, so it's because of betting?

Obviously dodgy pirate streaming is shit and unreliable but proper legit streaming with the proper infrastructure behind it should be fine. I watch BT Sport through their website sometimes and it's good.

[Disco]

Even dodgy pirate streaming is pretty reliable these days.

[phonics]

Even dodgy pirate streaming is pretty reliable these days.

It's incredible these days. I remember when browser streams barely existed and you had to use Sopcast connected to a 4:3 stream in Chinese. Now it's over to Soccerstreams and it's basically Netflix. The 2-3 minute delay is very annoying as someone that can't not refresh Twitter while I'm watching a match.

[Bam]

It's incredible these days. I remember when browser streams barely existed and you had to use Sopcast connected to a 4:3 stream in Chinese. Now it's over to Soccerstreams and it's basically Netflix. The 2-3 minute delay is very annoying as someone that can't not refresh Twitter while I'm watching a match.

Do you donate to the site? If so does it stop the buffering?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My mum and dad used to love speedway to the point that in the days of wedding receptions not going on until everybody wishes they were dead they actually went on their wedding day.

I went once in Glasgow despite motorsport not really being my thing and actually quite enjoyed it but it helped that it was really close and was only won on the last race.
I've been offered tickets to the last 3 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS in Cardiff but it looks awful.

[Baz]

What else did you consider when you were scouring the world for something even sadder than golf, cricket, and Formula One?:lol:

[mugbull]

Tennis is the least dull sport out if you're watching a match between 2 top 20 players

[Giggles]

Tennis is the least dull sport out if you're watching a match between 2 top 20 players

It really isn't.

[phonics]

Do you donate to the site? If so does it stop the buffering?

? I use AceStream. Just go to redddit.com/r/soccerstreams and the top link works fine. I've got a fiber connection though so it's basically made for me with it's p2p nature. I also support Arsenal and only watch their matches and we're the internet team so maybe I just get better service because of that.

[igor_balis]

As a side note, netflix is actually pretty shit. There's like 3 or 4 good tv shows, then the rest is absolute bobbins. Or at least it was the last few times I've checked.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not only is it shit, but who in the UK is going to be booting it up to watch Getafe v Eibar? The value of these things is in the channel-flicking market.

[phonics]

Not only is it shit, but who in the UK is going to be booting it up to watch Getafe v Eibar? The value of these things is in the channel-flicking market.

The package they bought gets them all the Barca and Madrid games, that's all they'll show just like Sky did.

[niko_cee]

And literally no one will watch them.

The really sad thing about all these things is that, for us sports nerd people (which most of us probably are) all of the side sports you (used) to get on whichever channel you subscribed to (in all likelihood sky) were just a happy bonus. No one really pays for them, which is why pissant operators can come along and 'win' the rights (it was/is the same with the NRL if you're into that). I have long said that I would happily have the full range of sports on offer from Sky without the football, if it cost a lot less, but that's not how these things work. The football pays for everything, and if all you get is the football, 95% of people will still pay.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The package they bought gets them all the Barca and Madrid games, that's all they'll show just like Sky did.

Maybe if you're still in 2007. Currently Sky show literally every Liga game throughout a weekend. The odd one goes behind the red button if there are multiple English games on.

There is almost zero market for foreign football, and I mean zero. In fact, most of the domestic games could go as well. By and large in this country the only football people are interested in is Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal football. Those three and England are always the story, take out the narrative of those three clubs/England and all you have left is matchgoing fans and no product, i.e. you're back to 1980.

[phonics]

By and large in this country the only football people are interested in is Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal football. Those three and England are always the story, take out the narrative of those three clubs/England and all you have left is matchgoing fans and no product, i.e. you're back to 1980.

In the media, maybe you could make that statement. I think the rest of the statement is complete bollocks outside of that bubble.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Well obviously some people are interested in Maidenhead Utd, but I'm talking about TV and the national conversation.

[Mazuuurk]

On the topic of Netflix, here in Sweden we have a similar service called Viaplay which has a bunch of films and TV-series and stuff (but not that much original content like Netflix does these days), and the company owning it also owns the Premier and Champions League rights here (as well as some other sports like NHL and Formula 1).

Their normal non-Sports package is like Netflix, what like 10 quid a month, and then with the Sports package it's like 45 quid or something. That's cheifly because Premier League rights are so insanely expensive as well I suppose.

They also have the rights to La Liga, Ligue 1 and Serie A, so all in all it's a pretty great service I think. Just wish they had some more good series.