[FOOTBALL] Weekend Football 2-4 October (Taz Special - Everton vs Liverpool)

[Davgooner]

And we were singing, hymns and arias, land of my fathers.

All through the night.

[Lewis]

United won the possession. Result.

[John]

Very eloquent from Walcott there.

'Yeah, no, well, like I say...'

[QE Harold Flair]

Good point, John.

[Lewis]

This BREAKING NEWS shitting hell.

[Gray Fox]

Very loud rumours today that Klopp has agreed a 3 year deal with Rodgers gone regardless of how we would have done today. To be announced today or tomorrow.

I don't believe it, but I don't know any more.

Oh please. PLEASE.

[Davgooner]

Sacking Rodgers and bringing in Klopp would be a strange move.

[Dquincy]

Shit! He hasn't been that bad. I wanted to give him the season. :(

[Smiffy]

.....

[Dquincy]

Sacking Rodgers and bringing in Klopp would be a strange move.

Why?

Making that comment is a strange move.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I will laugh so hard if we sack Mourinho and appoint Brendan Rodgers.

[CJay]

Surprised we've pulled the trigger tbh.

After a 1-1 draw away to Everton it only makes sense to have done it if we've got someone (hopefully Klopp) lined up to come on immediately, otherwise what's the point after an alright result?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The timing is just related to the international break surely. Clubs always sack managers around now.

[CJay]

Possibly. I still think it'd be odd if we don't have a replacement in the works.

[Benny]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2_l_cjtIRc

:chortle::chortle::chortle::chortle:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's amazing.

He turns so fucking red :D

[Davgooner]

Why?

Making that comment is a strange move.

Exactly the same philosophy.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Oh no. Well it was a good run. I think that bloke's actually got a loftus cheek.

Who shall I support next? Crawley Town is a only about 45 minutes away.

[Davgooner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2_l_cjtIRc

:chortle::chortle::chortle::chortle:

It's good, but he needs to up his game if he's going to become a real Fan TV personality. Wear a half-and-half kit or something.

[Jeet]

Loftus Cheek..please.

[Multi]

Ivanovic and his amazing arse are great. Always seen him as a real trooper for Chelsea putting in a good shift and chipping in with important goals every now and again, but still never being appreciated.

[CJay]

What do I do with all my vCash? That was the easiest bet anyone could ever make.

[Reg]

Proper old school wing play from Carvajal for the goal.

Apparently Atletico spent 140m euros on new players this summer, none of whom are on the pitch. The commentator decided to praise Simeone for it (he doesn't go off price tags, reputation, etc) but I'm not sure that's a great business model.

[Toby]

Ivanovic and his amazing arse are great. Always seen him as a real trooper for Chelsea putting in a good shift and chipping in with important goals every now and again, but still never being appreciated.

He was excellent for the past couple of seasons and recognised as such by most Chelsea fans (and a lot of others). I like him but I don't think he can have a reasonable claim to being underrated, I think there was fair consensus he was the one of if not the best right back in the league last year.

But so far this season he has been stand out terrible in an already terrible team.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Proper old school wing play from Carvajal for the goal.

Apparently Atletico spent 140m euros on new players this summer, none of whom are on the pitch. The commentator decided to praise Simeone for it (he doesn't go off price tags, reputation, etc) but I'm not sure that's a great business model.

He's wrong, Filipe Luis is playing...

[Jimmy Floyd]

The best part of all that was Torres being put clean through on goal, checking back behind the two retreating men, and then falling over.

[Reg]

He's wrong, Filipe Luis is playing...
Good point.

[Lewis]

'Atleti' don't have a business model. Hence being a debt-riddled bag of piss most of the time.

[Reg]

It's so absurd that they let him try that. He must have the biggest ego of all time.

[CJay]

Ronaldo's last 85 free kicks (club and country)
> 34 into the wall
> 25 saved by keeper
> 23 missed wide
> 1 off woodwork
> 2 goals

Apparently. I don't know average stats for other free kick takers, but that seems fairly awful.

[Davgooner]

Trouble is he takes them on from everywhere. Basically anywhere inside the opposition half.

[Reg]

The best have around 13% success rates.

[Multi]

Yes but imagine the YouTube compilation of all the screamers when he retires. That's all anyone will remember and thus the only thing that matters.

[Lewis]

'Roberto Carlos Syndrome', as it's known.

[Waffdon]

Eriksen's will be higher than 13%. Çalhanoğlu as well i imagine.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9804389/cristiano-ronaldo-free-kick-goals-are-rare-show-whoscoredcom-stats

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0AwjFHEZdI

Zlatko is a true monster.

[Reg]

Eriksen's will be higher than 13%. Çalhanoğlu as well i imagine.
Good call for Cal. Eriksen a bit below. (When this article was written.)

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9804389/cristiano-ronaldo-free-kick-goals-are-rare-show-whoscoredcom-stats

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm not sure if the Bundesliga jingle at the end of that video is worse than the La Liga one in the TV coverage. Still, at least they put stuff on the internet...

[Toby]

Willian didn't really get enough credit for his at the weekend. It wasn't as good as the Porto effort but it wasn't as lucky as the Newcastle one either.

That sort of technique is definitely better than predictably thumping it into the wall at least.

[Jeet]

Whatever happened to that Sanchez vs Hazard debate?

Also I have never seen a player that fouls so much and gets away with bookings than Marouane Fellaini.

[John]

I'm not sure if the Bundesliga jingle at the end of that video is worse than the La Liga one in the TV coverage. Still, at least they put stuff on the internet...

The real mystery there is what Bremen are doing playing a Proclaimers song after their goals.

[leedsrevolution]

What do I do with all my vCash? That was the easiest bet anyone could ever make.

Yeah it was obvious. Think I've got every bet right so far in fact.

[Magic]

Ronaldo's last 85 free kicks (club and country)
> 34 into the wall
> 25 saved by keeper
> 23 missed wide
> 1 off woodwork
> 2 goals

Apparently. I don't know average stats for other free kick takers, but that seems fairly awful.

Be good to see Pernumbacanos.

[niko_cee]

Sinisa Mihajlovic or Pierre van Hooijdonk must be up there as some of the best I've seen in terms of conversion. Must be something in the unspellable names.

[Luca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2_l_cjtIRc

:chortle::chortle::chortle::chortle:

This is sublime. He's going to look back at that in 10 years and die from cringe.

[TG09]

Just watched that on the Metro.co.uk, so so funny, but he has a point.

[QE Harold Flair]

It's a shame our DEMOLITION of United is going to take second place to the sacking of Brent.

[Yevrah]

My god, is that Alan Shearer actually saying something sensible.

[Davgooner]

Wrighty needs to stop referring to 'the Suarez season'. Come on now.

[Lewis]

This is sublime. He's going to look back at that in 10 years and die from cringe.

I doubt he's that self-aware.

[Giggles]

Wrighty needs to stop referring to 'the Suarez season'. Come on now.

That's exactly what it was.

[Davgooner]

That's tosh.

[GS]

Suarez had a massive amount to do with it, to be fair. You can argue Rodgers' system helped get the best out of him, obviously. But it was a freak season, evidenced by the other two and a bit being fairly abject.

[Yevrah]

Sturridge's second against Villa should have made that list.

[Giggles]

Matt Ritchie's easily for me.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They absolutely pissed on everyone in the second half of that season and only the other side of this same bloody minded, paranoid Mourinho coin denied them the title. Suarez was just one of several key elements to their dominance.

[Giggles]

That Kane goal was special.

[Yevrah]

That Wayne Rooney documentary might just finish me off...

[Raoul Duke]

Please watch it Yev :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm expecting it to contain no holds barred insight, such as Gary asking him 'Wayne, you're really just a family man, aren't you?' and Wayne replying 'Yes, Gary, I think you've hit the nail on the head there, I'm just a family man'.

[CJay]

Suarez's goals dried up significantly after January (during our best part of the season, basically) - only 8 after January, including a hat trick. To suggest it was all him is nonsense.

[Yevrah]

It might have ended reasonably badly, but the revisionism that's been going on over that season, when Brendan put together a fucking frightening side, is staggering.

[Lewis]

It was hardly 'fucking frightening'. They scored a lot of goals, and their defence was shit. It was quite clear that once forty-odd goals were taken out of the equation they would struggle.

[The Merse]

It just reminded me of Keegan's Newcastle of 95-97 at the time, and of course, now it's ended rather similarly - albeit it's been dragged out a good year longer.

[Yevrah]

He nearly won the league, with Liverpool. We nearly had Mark Bright committed for suggesting similar would happen a few years back.

[The Merse]

It was a good season, a good accomplishment.

Fortunate to coincide with Arsenal being Arsenal and United on the wain, but they were smashing sides at one stage and it was a commendable job at the time.

They just squandered the Suarez cash and ignored the centre back issue for too long.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, I don't disagree with the last sentence there at all.

[QE Harold Flair]

A good idea is a good idea forever.

[Danny]

650364751185346561

I thought I saw it at the time and just watching MOTD confirmed it. He even hooked the ball back towards his own goal 10 seconds before that.

He is absolutely done

[Andy]

I thought I saw it at the time and just watching MOTD confirmed it. He even hooked the ball back towards his own goal 10 seconds before that.

He is absolutely done

Tadic is the sort of player he should be fine with, he hasn't got any pace.

[Adam]

Rooney really is a shambles these days, he's lost that aggressiveness to his play.

[Benny]

Didn't mention you went to the game, Jimmy Floyd.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pgqVd73tabw/Vg5w1qS6WwI/AAAAAAAAD1o/MsKaFFR7bpw/s640/7034060-swiss-alps-wallpaper-14990%2B%25281%2529.jpg

[Davgooner]

You must be happy that Kane notched another one. :baz:

[Giggles]

Arsenal crowing. Love it, makes March so much better.

[Pen]

Whatever happened to that Sanchez vs Hazard debate?

I'd say Hazard was better last season.

I wouldn't get too much ahead of yourself after two admittedly very good games from Sanchez.

[Davgooner]

Arsenal crowing. Love it, makes March so much better.

You reckon this is the year then?

[CJay]

Garth Crooks coming up with another excellent team of the week this week. :cab: How does he get paid to do this and what is the point of it?

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/CE04/production/_85904725_getimage-5.png

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34440132

[Mellberg]

Was having a chat with a mate this weekend about Villa (2006-2010) and how if we'd signed Falcao instead of Heskey, and it feels mental that we were ever seriously in for him, we'd have probably finished top four. Was looking for an old article I remember to back up the link and whilst doing so found Benitez talking about us as title challengers in fucking February (and that was the third or fourth year on the bounce we were in and around the top four). Terrible, terrible mismanagement for us to go from that to this in such a short space of time, bearing in mind we had a relegation battle on our hands two years after that was written.

We're destined to go down eventually, and it's starting to look likely it'll be this year, and I have no confidence in this rabble getting us back up. The sad thing is we've been shit for so long that it'll barely register with anyone.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bit of a six pointer next game.

[Mellberg]

We are the absolute masters of getting teams out of their own run of shit form at the minute. You'll batter us with Guzan scoring a late consolation (Timmeh will play him left wing).

[Benny]

Unsurprised to see Sherwood outed as the cock he is, he's an absolute bellend.

[Benny]

You must be happy that Kane notched another one. :baz:

He needs a break, he could really do with not going away with England this coming week, looks knackered and there's no other player to take the heat off him.

[Mellberg]

Friedel
Bouma
Laursen
Mellberg
L Young
Petrov
Barry
Milner
A Young
Gabby
Carew

:drool:

Sorry to bore you all, but remembering the good times is all we have these days.

[Mellberg]

Unsurprised to see Sherwood outed as the cock he is, he's an absolute bellend.

I liked the bravado when we were doing well, but it's become tiresome very quickly with him spazzing it up at the minute.

[Benny]

I liked the bravado when we were doing well, but it's become tiresome very quickly with him spazzing it up at the minute.

I don't remember what I said about him when he was appointed (on the old board), but I'm fairly sure it was something like he would be good to galvanise a team for a half a season, but I was interested in seeing how he did full time.

The problem is, he's not done the years you need to be a successful manager in the Premier League and he runs his mouth off far too much. He's a journalists dream.

[wullie]

Our match against Shrewsbury was sponsored by 'Auto Jap Spares'. Kick racism out of football.

[Mellberg]

We were absolutely rank under Lambert and Benteke kept him in a job for the best part of three years. Sherwood did well to turn that around, but he's blown it and it already feels like a long way back for him. Just get rid and try and get Rodgers in. If he doesn't fancy it then we're fucked either way.

[Davgooner]

if we'd signed Falcao instead of Heskey

:D

Sorry.

[Giggles]

You reckon this is the year then?

Depends what you're expecting the outcome to be.

[Benny]

Bet there's a few clubs eying up Allardyce already, Sunderland should be going balls deep for him if they want to stay up.

[Davgooner]

Are your lot going to finish above us?

[Giggles]

Are your lot going to finish above us?

Unless you've suddenly started supporting Norwich then hell no.

[Mellberg]

:D

Sorry.

Exactly :moop:

[Reg]

Mourinho on the Falcao penalty shout: moan moan moan, "When we are down, give us a break."
Southampton had penalty claims too. "I prefer not to comment."

Pretty much sums the tool up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's his ability to wind you up even from his lowest ever position that really sums him up.

[Davgooner]

Sooner or later you're going to have to admit that these rants aren't some elaborate ploy and he's actually just lost the plot.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He can't lose the plot. He is the plot.

[Reg]

He doesn't really wind me up, I'm not sat at the desk shaking my fist at the thought of him all day, I just think he's a tit.

[QE Harold Flair]

As a bitter Arsenal fan obsessed by Chelsea I shake with rage most of the day whenever he opens his mouth.

[Lewis]

How much of [The] Villa's decline is due to the post-Martin O'Neill financial consolidation? If mainly, I'm officially adding them to the list of teams who had a 'good side' and then suddenly stopped having any money. I need a name for it really. 'The Parma Criterion' or something. That might be a bit John le Carre.

[Mellberg]

We're still not spending much, although the only one who really went without was McLeish (and he spent the 10m he did have on fucking N'Zogbia).

We're basically Newcastle, in that Lerner wants to keep us in the Prem for when a buyer comes along, but isn't prepared to spend what we need to become decent again.

[Andy]

Love this guy:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/ivanovic-fabregas-can-f-off-6570199

[Andy]

Really enjoyed Bertrand being the best full back on the pitch on Saturday. Terrible decision from Chelsea to get rid of him, he just needed a run of games in a confident team.

No surprise we've looked a proper team with him back in it.

[Mellberg]

That rant is spectacular.

[Baz]

Reminds me of the legend that is Andy Tate:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khlz7Kwkoz8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmWXVHBo84A

[Samadini]

Was having a chat with a mate this weekend about Villa (2006-2010) and how if we'd signed Falcao instead of Heskey, and it feels mental that we were ever seriously in for him, we'd have probably finished top four. Was looking for an old article I remember to back up the link and whilst doing so found Benitez talking about us as title challengers in fucking February (and that was the third or fourth year on the bounce we were in and around the top four). Terrible, terrible mismanagement for us to go from that to this in such a short space of time, bearing in mind we had a relegation battle on our hands two years after that was written.

We're destined to go down eventually, and it's starting to look likely it'll be this year, and I have no confidence in this rabble getting us back up. The sad thing is we've been shit for so long that it'll barely register with anyone.


Friedel
Bouma
Laursen
Mellberg
L Young
Petrov
Barry
Milner
A Young
Gabby
Carew

:drool:

Sorry to bore you all, but remembering the good times is all we have these days.


We're still not spending much, although the only one who really went without was McLeish (and he spent the 10m he did have on fucking N'Zogbia).

We're basically Newcastle, in that Lerner wants to keep us in the Prem for when a buyer comes along, but isn't prepared to spend what we need to become decent again.

We really are one and the same.

Everything you've written is post-Robson Newcastle. :(

[John Arne]

Jimmy - you do realise we are all laughing at Mourinho, not actively charging around our homes being wound up by him...?

[Davgooner]

Speak for yourself.

[Disco]

I thought some local bod was in for Villa last season, I'm guessing that hasn't panned out.

[CJay]

All that Villa lineup says to me is that O'Neill seriously overachieved getting them to battle for 4th in consecutive seasons.

[Spoonsky]

I have fond memories of that 2008-09 Villa side as it was the first season I really watched football and I was fucking well into the Premier League. I remember it looked like they might actually do it when they beat Arsenal 2-0, and Liverpool were on course to win the title as well. Then Federico Macheda fucked everything up. So it goes.

[Spoonsky]

And that insane 3-2 against Everton! What a season that was.

[Mellberg]

All that Villa lineup says to me is that O'Neill seriously overachieved getting them to battle for 4th in consecutive seasons.

Shut up you tart.

That Everton game :cool:

[CJay]

Shut up you tart.

That Everton game :cool:

:D

Truth.

[Sam]

Villa coming down to the Championship would be fantastic on one hand, but fucking horrid for Midlands football, our top clubs being Stoke and Albion? Woeful.

That said, can't help but have a rye smile at the thought of the Villa faithful blarring out another rendition of 'Have you won the European Cup?' to Doncaster on a wet rainy night. Somehow, doubt it will have the same panache.

[Lewis]

West Midlands football. The East Midlands aren't horrendous.

[Sam]

West Midlands football. The East Midlands aren't horrendous.

Leicester then as another representative, as Forest, Derby, Coventry (apologies Wullie) and Burton are just as bad.

[John Arne]

Villa coming down to the Championship would be fantastic on one hand, but fucking horrid for Midlands football, our top clubs being Stoke and Albion? Woeful.

That said, can't help but have a rye smile at the thought of the Villa faithful blarring out another rendition of 'Have you won the European Cup?' to Doncaster on a wet rainy night. Somehow, doubt it will have the same panache.

I still maintain that Stoke is the North West.

[Lewis]

The North starts at the southern borders of historic Lancashire and Yorkshire. Derbyshire (for example) is not part of the North, even though bits of it seem to be.

[Waffdon]

Scott Brown, James Forrest, Steven Fletcher, Stephen Whittaker. Gtfo.

mon le polska. Angus is going to be empty tonight with all the Polish cuntos at the game.

[Toby]

Can see it being an absolute fisting tonight, tbh. Getting fed up of all the people anticipating "glorious failure" despite the complete absence of any glory whatsoever. Maybe if we win 5-0 and Ireland score another jammy late goal to beat Germany they'll have a point, but otherwise I just assume they don't know what that means.

[Waffdon]

Why doesn't the dosey cunt realised we played best with Naismith as the lone striker? He called Charlie Mulgrew up knowing fine well he was injured, but they wanted him to be apart of the matchday squad, wasting a space.

Absolutely mental.

[Lewis]

Is this the worst Scotland have been in your lifetime, Head?

[Toby]

Not even close. George Burley and Berti Vogts see to that, but Strachan stands up pretty well against even some better managers. They were actually looking really good this time last year and it's really just one terrible performance/result that's blown things this time.

[Toby]

In fact the saddest part of this is that apart from the late 90s and that one almost-qualified run in 2007, this is probably the best Scotland side I've seen. :(