Far Cry 5

[Raoul Duke]

Out tomorrow!

Story trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYkQWTUmEkI

[Raoul Duke]

Live action trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weZnRsxovZg

(music is ace in this)

[Ian]

I'm not buying it brand new but it's 100% getting bought at some point . Did you like / play Primal?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was hoping my copy would come today but they've obviously held it.

I never really got into Primal so I'm hoping this is good.

[Dark Soldier]

Worth a yarr

[phonics]

I bought this on Friday in a shop, installed it only to find out it's not out till today. I've been fuming.

[Giggles]

I bought this on Friday in a shop, installed it only to find out it's not out till today. I've been fuming.

That makes no sense to me, how can you buy a game when it's not out? Was it a fake?

[phonics]

That makes no sense to me, how can you buy a game when it's not out? Was it a fake?

They break street date over here all the time, if there's a game I'm looking for I can normally get it 3-5 days early. If you had the PS4 or Xbox version you'd be able to play no problem but PC activation has to go online.

[Giggles]

They break street date over here all the time, if there's a game I'm looking for I can normally get it 3-5 days early. If you had the PS4 or Xbox version you'd be able to play no problem but PC activation has to go online.

Jesus, so actually having a legitimate physical copy still isn't any use without their online shite any more (no doubt to fuck you up as it's probably only about 20% of the game initially released and they need to shill you for more). Gaming really is fucked up now.

[phonics]

I think you're going a bit OTT. The shop did something illegal, I just didn't know.

[wullie]

With FM last year I bought the physical version because we didn't have the internet set up in the new house yet, turned out the disc was just an alternate way of authorising the download through Steam anyway so I had to rinse my mobile data through tethering which I could have done to begin with. Right load of shit.


I loved Far Cry 3 but went off 4 pretty quickly. The setting here seems more my thing so if the first impressions from people today seem alright I might grab this later on.

[phonics]

With FM last year I bought the physical version because we didn't have the internet set up in the new house yet, turned out the disc was just an alternate way of authorising the download through Steam anyway so I had to rinse my mobile data through tethering which I could have done to begin with. Right load of shit.


I loved Far Cry 3 but went off 4 pretty quickly. The setting here seems more my thing so if the first impressions from people today seem alright I might grab this later on.

I'm in the same boat, I played an hour or two of 4 but it was too soon after for me to get really into it and a lot of people are saying 'If you're not burnt out on FarCry you'll enjoy this' which is what I'm looking for.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

4 was only good for the co-op tbh.

I never bothered to finish the game after me and Ian had run through all the bits to co-op.

He's still a dick for jumping out of a Gyrocopter he was flying without telling me though.

[phonics]

This whole thing can be played Co-op.

[Disco]

4 was only good for the co-op tbh.

I never bothered to finish the game after me and Ian had run through all the bits to co-op.

He's still a dick for jumping out of a Gyrocopter he was flying without telling me though.

:D Gold star for Webly.

This is my icon collectathon of choice so I'm going to get it at some point, partially in the hope that they've found Clint Hocking in a cupboard somewhere and it'll be good again. Not that they've been bad, 4 had the good grace to remove all possible character from the main story and just let you blow stuff up in whatever way you like.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Almost killed myself by standing too close to a shrine I had to blow up and then I did kill myself by deciding to fly a seaplane I found right into an explosive shrine.

Fun times.

[Yevrah]

Is this worth it or the same mince as the previous 2 repackaged?

[Yevrah]

Fuck it, downloading now.

[Yevrah]

It was the massive statue that swayed me.

Just about to start and I think I'll go balls deep on the hardest setting to start.

[Ian]

4 was only good for the co-op tbh.

I never bothered to finish the game after me and Ian had run through all the bits to co-op.

He's still a dick for jumping out of a Gyrocopter he was flying without telling me though.

That was revenge for an act either of petty violence or unforgiveable ineptitude, I forget which.

It was premeditated and fully deserved, either way.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was revenge for an act either of petty violence or unforgiveable ineptitude, I forget which.

It was premeditated and fully deserved, either way.
I think it was because I flew the gyro prior to that and made it stall by flying too high or by going off map. It also might have been for crashing it into a cliff.

I did one of those in the co-op. Possibly two.

[phonics]

It was the massive statue that swayed me.

Fiar play Yev, I love that you know exactly what you want from a game.

Imagine you're a PR person whos paycheck is based on sales reading this sentence when it comes to doing your analysis :D

"Well we were looking dicey for a bit there but then we convinced them to put a big fucking statue in the trailer and that pushed us over 3,000,000 units."

[wullie]

Couldn't find it in the one shop I tried so I've ordered it. Impressions aren't unanimously positive but the people who are enjoying it seem to really be enjoying it, which is good enough for me.

[neo_hippy]

Only had an hour last night on it and not got off the first island yet so very early days. But first impressions are that it's very 'far cry'. I didn't play primal in the end as I needed a break after 3 and 4 which were so similar. This is the same again, just prettier and a (So far at least) more interesting setting.

[Disco]

Mechanically very sound but thematically vapid is what I'm hearing which would be consistent with the previous two games.

[Yevrah]

I've barely got through the intro, but what I would say is the main villian is light years more threatening than the two pantomime types from the last two.

[John]

I really liked Vaas as a concept, but they did their best to ruin him as the game went on. Fun fact, he was played by Nacho from Better Call Saul.

[Disco]

They tend to come up with interesting ideas and characters then flesh them out to about 20% of the way and call it good.

[Bam]

Fun fact, he was played by Nacho from Better Call Saul.

:face:

[Dark Soldier]

Looks stunning, plays well. I avoided 4 and Primal so after a few years away it feels fresh to me. The lead pisses all over that Vaas cunt. Movement feels great.

[Raoul Duke]

It's very similar to the previous couple of games. An enjoyable blast though.

Just rescued the dog and kitted out my pistol with a suppressor. Use that and the bow normally for range (until I unlock a sniper rifle) and a baseball bat for close up stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've managed to get to the main island (the one that Joseph rules over) whilst still technically locked.

https://i.imgur.com/wOg9PI2.jpg

I was roaming on a bit close to it and saw that bottom waypoint with my binoculars which allowed me to fast travel to it.

Managed to kill someone on the island and they dropped a beastly sniper with scope.

Killed everyone in the actual compound from the mountains then went down to explore. Church is closed (there's no door) and I haven't found many goodies sadly.

[phonics]

I played the opening. I need to put on subtitles, I could barely understand a word that leader guy said. Why is there a character creator in an FPS?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

For co-op stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just unlocked a bear, destroyed the massive statue and unlocked a third weapon slot.

Currently rocking a sniper with the best scope and a silencer, a .44 magnum (or similar) and a bow.

Also, I bought the Gold edition but like quite a few the sniper that I was meant to have ON DAY ONE is not there. I think I've gotten everything else but not that. Apparently it's affecting quite a few which is shit.

[Yevrah]

Do you have to destroy the statue to progress? I'd rather not.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I knew that was coming :D

I think you do sadly, sorry Yev.

[Ian]

I'll be getting in about the bow when I get this. The satisfaction once you learn to adjust for the drop. :drool:

I became quite a beast at it on 3 / 4.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm not quite so sure about that. Mediocre perhaps is more apt.

When it comes to being a beast with a weapon it's clearly me with a grenade launcher from the back of a gyrocopter.

[Dark Soldier]

Thing of beauty

https://i.imgur.com/5VKsArB.jpg

For those who hated it, there's no skinning animals (you can kill em if ya want), no towers. The world feels more like FC2 as in there's constant ultra aggressive patrols which you can challenge if you want, or you can map your way around and avoid the conflict.

The fishing mini-game is addictive as fuck, the gunplay feels meatier. Movement is a joy, especially the grappling hook and parachute. I'm enjoying it so far, but then I avoided 4 and Primal so it feels nice and fresh.

Overall though, I fucking love the world and the setting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I did do something stupid today though.

I managed to unlock a bomber plane, when I got in I instantly decided to see how the bombs worked. I was still stationery in the hangar and obviously blew myself to little pieces.

[Raoul Duke]

I did do something stupid today though.

I managed to unlock a bomber plane, when I got in I instantly decided to see how the bombs worked. I was still stationery in the hangar and obviously blew myself to little pieces.

:D

I'm a big fan of the silenced pistol. I've gotten pretty good at shooting twats in cars as they drive at me. Find that quite satisfying for some reason.

[phonics]

*Pathetic image for babies*

http://i.cubeupload.com/t6gGRV.jpg

:drool:

I can only run that resolution at 30 FPS though so I'm playing locked 60 at 1440 instead.

[Ian]

Raoul Duke If shooting at cars while they approach doesn't allow this then I'm not interested:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4iDWXstrWY


I'm not quite so sure about that. Mediocre perhaps is more apt.

Let's not play this game.

[Dark Soldier]

go shove a 1080ti up your arse and asphyxiwank, phonics

I can do 1440 at 30fps sshh

[phonics]

1060. I'm not made of money. Have you seen what Bitcoins done to the market? You can buy a whole PC for the same price as a 1080. You could buy an Alienware Laptop for a Titan.

[Dark Soldier]

I was gonna get the 1060 6gb laptop but it was £300 more fuck that noise. Got the 3gb laptop version, does 1080p maxed (or near maxed) on everything so I'm still erect.

[Yevrah]

It's quite good so far and the statue is a thing of beauty, which I'll be doing all I can to avoid blowing up.

Agree with DS that it feels more Far Cry 2 than 3 or 4, which is a great thing.

The levelling system is still absolute bobbins though. I don't know why they bother.

[phonics]

I unlocked the wingsuit first thing but haven't found anything tall enough to wingsuit off. Hopefully there's a bit more verticality to the game than I've run in to. You had big fuck off mountains in 4 so it made sense.

[Yevrah]

And why can I buy a helicopter for $2,680, but an outfit costs $9,000?

[phonics]

A helicopter can blow up, a look is for life. Dawg.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can vouch for a helicopter potentially blowing up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I unlocked the wingsuit first thing but haven't found anything tall enough to wingsuit off. Hopefully there's a bit more verticality to the game than I've run in to. You had big fuck off mountains in 4 so it made sense.

It's mainly used for when you unlock the airdrop skill/perk.

[phonics]

Would anyone like to play through this Co-Op? (PC)

[wullie]

Only played an hour but loving this so far, I think the Himalayas put me off 4 whereas this is all trailer parks and yee-haw stalking with a bow. I'm not sure I've done a story mission yet, I'm not sure which ones even are story missions.

[Disco]

I played the last one like that, disappeared off into the wilderness at the first opportunity to murder hundreds of people and drape the rancid skins of rare animals across my face.

[Raoul Duke]

I've found myself stood in the middle of a road blowing shit up for chunks of time with no rhyme or reason.

Did a spot of fishing last night. Pretty fun and relaxing :cool:

[Disco]

Wow, you can pay £75 for this game if you want. Some people really must be complete morons.

[phonics]

They were selling a Ni No Kuni 2 Collectors Edition for 150 quid in my local shop. You couldn't even see what was inside it.

[Mike]

Saw this for sale for £30 from ebay (turns out it came with a hard drive the seller bought but didn't want the game. It's the Uplay version, that'll work with the Steam one right?

[Bam]

Picked this up today but probably wont be able to crack on with it until Monday. :mad:

[phonics]

I'm pretty much done with the first island. Just the final boss to go. The way they've managed to make the flow of the game just going from point to point is really well done.

[Dark Soldier]

This is great. Really fucking good. Loads of shit to do but ti doesn't crowd your HUD with markers anymore, its suitably mental while also being tense and the setting is perfect.

Was fishing earlier with a gun merchant just standing around behind me waffling away when all of a sudden I hear a loud scream, but I've got a catch and its a tricky bastard so fucked if I'm helping. Gun merchant innit, you got that shit. Reel that sucker in quick sharp, turn around and he's on the floor being decimated by a black bear who's now looking right at me, charges, knocks me into the water. I swim around to the side, chuck a remote explosive and blow it to fuck. Just as that happens I hear the YEEHAH of the hicks charging me, whip out a molotov and have them up in flames then shoot the canister on a flamethrower guy so he fucking explodes all whilst my gun merchant dies, I run away and stumble on a small side quest mission that gives me a slight puzzle for solid rewards, new gun and three upgrade points (perks).

Its a lovely world, feels like Far Cry refined. The world isn't scatted with map points, the gameplay feels very emergent, the gun play is satisfactory and all the shit ya hated is basically gone. Even has a solid health regen system that rewards running the fuck away and regrouping. Plus the roads are chock full of mentalists who will attack on sight.

[Yevrah]

I'm pretty much done with the first island. Just the final boss to go. The way they've managed to make the flow of the game just going from point to point is really well done.

When you say first island, is there an order you're meant to do them in?

I went straight to Faith.

[Raoul Duke]

When you say first island, is there an order you're meant to do them in?

I went straight to Faith.

First island is, I assume, Dutch's place where you start out.

I went for John Seed's region - I think that's meant to be the place you go first as it has a) Boomer and b) a lower "resistance score" than the other two areas. My internal logic was that he was doing the training/recruiting for the cult, so offing him would stop that supply. But it doesn't really matter which you pick.

[phonics]

I meant as in first boss. I did John first as it reccomends you do that one first.

[Shindig]

Honest opinions, lads: Far Cry 2?

I loved that game and the whole malaria thing just got usurped by the whole 'drug interlude' nonsense. Guardposts were bollocks but FC2 contained a level of planning to me that made each mission a little more interesting.

[phonics]

Crap. FarCry 3 saved that series from going down the toilet.

[John]

Farcry 2 had the best fire physics I'd ever seen at that point, but the rest of the game was arse. The only fun I got out of it was lobbing a molotov into one end of a field and watching the blaze spread to the other side.

I enjoyed the last two but not enough to pay full price for this. I'll get it in a couple of months when it costs twenty quid preowned.

[Dark Soldier]

Far Cry 2 is one of the greatest games of all time.

[Yevrah]

+1 for the Far Cry 2 love.

[Alex]

I'm almost certain I bought Far Cry 2 based on you singing its praises at the time DS. 2008 though? I'm not sure if you were around or still on hiatus at that point? It's very possible I could be confusing it with one of the (many) other games I've bought on the exact same premise. :D

It was a good game though, but (from what I remember) the gameplay was a lot more unforgiving, and the it was a lot more serious in tone. It also had perhaps the strangest voice acting I've ever encountered in my video-gaming life too. They all sounded like they were talking at about 1.5x the speed it has been originally recorded at, it was bizarre.

[Shindig]

Yeah, it was very exaggerated African. You have actual proper actors in that cast, as well.

[Disco]

Far Cry 2 was immense, high point of the series. Weapon selection mattered, your character and the setting made sense. The malaria mechanic and to a lesser extent the respawning checkpoints got really tired by the end of the game but it had atmosphere by the bucket.

[Ian]

I'd have liked FC2 more if I'd had just a little more room to breathe in it. The flare gun, a sniper rifle and high ground above a grassy outpost was just a joy.


Would anyone like to play through this Co-Op? (PC)

I will be but as we discussed, I dunno when I'll get it. Like John I probably won't be getting it full price.

[Disco]

The dart gun or the giant sniper rifle/cannon plus a pistol was always the loadout of choice. Scoping out where all the gas canisters wee was a must.

[Dark Soldier]

I'm almost certain I bought Far Cry 2 based on you singing its praises at the time DS. 2008 though? I'm not sure if you were around or still on hiatus at that point? It's very possible I could be confusing it with one of the (many) other games I've bought on the exact same premise. :D

Yeah it would've been me, it became an obsession for about two months, easily put a hundred hours or so into it. The world was unforgiving, it was harsh, it encouraged tactics and discipline. Truly phenomenal game, you felt as if you were the hunted.

[Raoul Duke]

The cut scenes in this are pretty jarring. They never seem to happen at a point where you think it would make sense. Just haphazardly for no reason.

This is cool: https://youtu.be/gXJG8C4-X5Q - albeit you can jump out a plane and land on someone's head :D

[The Merse]

Far Cry 2 is one of the greatest games of all time.

The flaws were pronounced as fuck (repeating the same outposts and roadblocks over and over and both factions still gunning for you when you’re working for them) but, it was way, way, way ahead of its time. The malaria stuff was great too, sitting nicely somewhere between the over zealous implementation of the filters in the original Metro game and the underwhelming radiation poisoning in Fallout 3.

[The Merse]

Yeah it would've been me, it became an obsession for about two months, easily put a hundred hours or so into it. The world was unforgiving, it was harsh, it encouraged tactics and discipline. Truly phenomenal game, you felt as if you were the hunted.

This. When you learned how to master those tactics, trying different ones along the way, it’s incredibly empowering and satisfying.

3 was disappointing in being such a departure from that, though the sheer fun and production values made up for it (and especially blood dragon which might be my favourite DLC of all time)and 4 obviously repeated the formula. I see this one just continues to refine that whilst again having a largely disposable and at times jarring narrative. I’ll enjoy it I’m sure.

I never got around to the Primal one - the only in the series that I’ve missed... is it worth giving a go?

[Yevrah]

I found Primal to be complete shit, although I haven't really given it a fair crack.

[Dark Soldier]

The flaws were pronounced as fuck (repeating the same outposts and roadblocks over and over and both factions still gunning for you when you’re working for them) but, it was way, way, way ahead of its time. The malaria stuff was great too, sitting nicely somewhere between the over zealous implementation of the filters in the original Metro game and the underwhelming radiation poisoning in Fallout 3.

The best thing was to plan your movement to avoid the roadblocks. Admittedly on some missions you couldn't but when traversing, just stick to the long grass and creep by.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The cut scenes in this are pretty jarring. They never seem to happen at a point where you think it would make sense. Just haphazardly for no reason.

This is cool: https://youtu.be/gXJG8C4-X5Q - albeit you can jump out a plane and land on someone's head :D
That is absolutely mental.

[Ian]

Is that one where he drops on a guy from a million yards up a "non-lethal" takedown?

I love those. I got a similar one from Dishonored 2.

I also "knocked out" a Korean goon on that first beach in the original Crysis by nailing him with a washing machine from about 40 yards away.

[The Merse]

The best thing was to plan your movement to avoid the roadblocks. Admittedly on some missions you couldn't but when traversing, just stick to the long grass and creep by.

That’s what I ended up doing. Especially in the second zone which had more jungle and less savannah. If spotted, Molotov the jungle, leg it around a corner then back to sneaking along and occasionally using a silenced sniper to pluck a head off some shoulders.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is that one where he drops on a guy from a million yards up a "non-lethal" takedown?

I love those. I got a similar one from Dishonored 2.

I also "knocked out" a Korean goon on that first beach in the original Crysis by nailing him with a washing machine from about 40 yards away.

Yeah but he's incredible just in general.

He's also running round outposts sliding around getting headshots with a silenced pistol as well as lobbing C4, detonating it in mid-air and killing loads.

The guy is fucking good.

[Dark Soldier]

Apart from on the other 50 attemptss where he fucks everything up.

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah - he doesn't claim it's anything but pre-planned, but it just looks cool.

[phonics]

I love watching StealthGamerBR play. He's just so smooth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A5ODFmve14

Check out his Dishonored stuff for some pwopa naughty stuff.

[phonics]

Jesus Christ I just did Johns Bunker.

Farcry 5 is many things, a corridor shooter it is not.

[Mike]

Here I am being amazing:

https://streamable.com/45t82

[phonics]

I've done that one. You can't even aim down sights while they're talking or they'll freak out. Jumpy fuckers.

[Raoul Duke]

Taking out John Seed is a fucking dreadful mission. Plane-on-plane combat is a shambles. I sacked it off and used a chopper.

[phonics]

Taking out John Seed is a fucking dreadful mission. Plane-on-plane combat is a shambles. I sacked it off and used a chopper.

The mission before that that involves bombing things. My word. I nailed the first one and then proceeded to spend almost all of the money I had earned up to that point on more bombs.

[Yevrah]

The planes being brought in to down you when you get to the second resistance level on John's bit is bad enough. What a dreadful thing to put in a game, or at least implemented in such a way that the plane can constantly see you.

[phonics]

The planes being brought in to down you when you get to the second resistance level on John's bit is bad enough. What a dreadful thing to put in a game, or at least implemented in such a way that the plane can constantly see you.

It's absolutely no threat unless you stand completely still.

I think they really fuck this games pacing by not forcing you to unlock levels in order. I just did the Jail mission in Faith land and once completed some woman gave me the stink eye because 'What have they ever done to stop this cult?'

I mean I've only killed one of the three heads and freed an entire third of the state. But yeah, what have I done really.

[Raoul Duke]

I've now taken out two of the main bosses and unlocked most of the allies. The 50 cal sniper rifle is a must unlock ASAP - so effective, just like in previous games.

The story mechanism where you continually get kidnapped/drugged every so often to go and get lectured by Jesus hipsters is wearing a bit thin, mind.

[Shindig]

Yeah, the game doesn't need four of them. My favourite one came in Far Cry 2. There's like a car right outside your cell.

[Baz]

Mike wants me to drop £23 (+£27 steam credit made from cards & pubg items) on this to co-op on PC.

Convince me it’s good.

[Mike]

Ummm....

https://streamable.com/o0ijm

[Yevrah]

All bored of this now then?

[Dark Soldier]

Nope, still rinsing fuck out of it. I don't hammer games like I used to these days though, I miss having ten free hours every day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nope, I was on holiday.

Played it the other day and it's still brilliant, I've got one of those shit hunted things to do though.

[Raoul Duke]

Just started on the final region today.

[wullie]

I did John's region apart from a few side missions and little map notifications and just moved onto Faith's region. I've put in some time to it and not really scratched the surface yet, as I only play maybe up to an hour at a time this is going to last me ages.

[Raoul Duke]

Far Cry: New Dawn is kinda FC5.5, set in the post-endgame events of FC5 (bit spoilery if you've not finished it):

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-12-07-far-cry-new-dawn-is-a-post-apocalyptic-spin-on-the-series

Might be worth a punt but I've already got a ridiculous backlog of games to get through. I need about 6 months off :moop:

[phonics]

No thanks, I don't think I can play FarCry 3 for the 5th time in 5 years.

[Disco]

The mini releases between proper games have never grabbed me, plus I'm still waiting for a heavy sale before getting 5. FC2 is ten years old now, might fire that up instead and play halfway through it like every other time.

[Ian]

Far Cry 5 was discounted on Gamesplanet the other week but not enough for me to go in.

I never finished Far Cry 2, I also get to the halfway point and am then done.

[phonics]

I've not completed every FarCry game since 3.

[Disco]

So you have completed some of them? So cryptic.

[phonics]

2 and 3 I have done. All of them since, no.

[John]

So you have completed some of them? So cryptic.

Not cryptic, just bad English.

[Shindig]

Far Cry 2 is still my favourite. I mean, 3 and 4 are better games but there's a cohesiveness to 2 before they crack the code and litter the map with THINGS.

[Raoul Duke]

5 was alright, but the story was kinda bobbins. Still one of the best games for ad-hoc crazy shit happening, but you can't overthink it.

[John]

2 lost me when you had to be saved by the guy you were supposed to be killing. I pissed around and enjoyed the fire physics for a while after that, but I was never seeing the story through after that start.

3 was the best by some distance.

[phonics]

FarCry 2 was total shit but seems to have done a whole load of influencing modern game designers which is weird.

[Yevrah]

I loved 2, it felt raw and immersive, albeit it clearly ran out of steam.

They've all been formulaic mince since then and as a result, 5 was (whisper it) actually shite.

[Alex]

4 was my favourite, I liked the villain in it. I forget his name now. I'm not sure I ever finished 3, and I haven't even played 5 yet. Primal was the last one I bought which, admittedly, was a bit shit.

[phonics]

Pagan Min. He was good, I really didn't like having to make story choices which pretended to be 'mature' by being shades of grey but they were also massively black & white. You could do it this way and have child soldiers or do it the other way and tell the militia they're allowed to rape and pillage. Meanwhile I'm supposed to be roleplaying an American college student who landed 30 minutes ago to bury my dead mum.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I tried playing 3 on a PC that was out of date by 4 years even when it was brand new and then a touch on a PS3.

4 was quality with the co-op, although I didn't play anything after me and Ian did all the co-op stuff.

I barely touched Primal and 5 started well but I quickly got bored.

[Vercetti]

I finished 3, but abandoned 4 shortly after meeting those crackheads that lived on a cliff. I did enjoy a bad guy that made Julian Clary look like Chuck Norris, though. At least briefly.

I was waiting for 5 to drop in price, but I haven't bothered yet.

[Yevrah]

Primal was so bad, so so bad.

[Disco]

2 is two mechanics away from being perfect and is therefore the best. 3 & 4 are basically the same but the story is easier to ignore in 4 and the baddie is also better (Despot Llewelyn-Bowen over Captain Ooh-Aren't-I-Mad any day of the week) but both are inherently silly for making me stitch a wallet out of crocodile dicks and eagle beaks.