Depression

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do you even need libido right now?

[Boydy]

:D

I was going to ask the same thing. Suppose he's a single man now though. Time to get out and slay some sloots.

Sertraline might actually be good for you, Magic. Was prozac the first thing they gave you?

[Magic]

I need to start wanking again, at the very least.

Prozac was prescribed because I thought I was depressed, and there were no investigatory questions beyond that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Prozac is a strange one to start someone on.

I think that was the 5th or 6th they tried with me.

[Magic]

As an aside, my dad has a night vision camera set up in the utility room but that looks right on to the basement door. I forced myself to have a wank for the first time in like 3 weeks and hated every second of it but had to be seriously shady about taking toilet paper down and back up.

Didn't want to ask for the camera to be moved because that implies shameful activities, which is true.

[Giggles]

How much do you actually jizz? And have you no pockets?

[Magic]

A lot that night.

[John]

What the fuck does he have that for? Is your dad Derek Acorah?

[Magic]

He caught his mother in law using the dishcloth to clean her stroller's wheels. :D

[Vercetti]

What sort of medication is your dad on?

[Spikey M]

Ok, fuck the divorce off, we need a new thread for this.

[Queenslander]

As person who is in the post horny faze of their life (meds) I enjoy the freedom from flirting, sexual tension etc...

[ScousePig]

I'm going to catch up on this thread when I can. From a personal perspective, I've felt a few warning signs creeping in lately. For anyone who remembers my troubles, it's been over ten years now.

[bruhnaldo]

Hold on, 3 weeks? Is that possible? (Obviously, but..)

[Magic]

Prozac destroys your libido.

Share when you can Scouse.

[bruhnaldo]

Ya but don't you just get bored and you're like ehhhhhh fuck it lemme kill a little time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I went 5 or 6 weeks once.

[Magic]

No. Not once. Its strange and thank fuck I'm off. Had a majestic wank last night.

[Magic]

Went back to the psychiatrist again today as per appointment, another fucking locum, this time from India. What an absolute waste of time. I think I was in there for all of 2 minutes, there was not one attempt to understand my situation, get to know me, help me with a treatment plan or give me pointers and tips to improve my wellbeing.

"Is the medication killing you? No? Ok we'll stick with that, and we'll see you in 6 months! Cheers"

Fuck off.

[Shindig]

What you need is a mate who is also a doctor. Shame leedsrevolution did a runner.

[bruhnaldo]

Is it possible the medication takes x amount of time for you to feel the full effects of it or something or are they genuinely just cold as ice?

You're always welcome to vent here, mind.

[Offshore Toon]

Yeah, doctors can be incredibly shit. They're just following a script a lot of the time and really shouldn't be regarded as highly as they are. I know it's a difficult and stressful job, but some people look to doctors to solve all their problems, but a bad doctor could possibly worsen them.

[Spikey M]

GP's are the biggest joke. I've literally seen the ones at our practice Google stuff. "wHaTs BeSt AnTibIooTiC 4 EaRiNfaCtIomS?"

I reckon you could just chuck any pleb a GP job. As long as you can look in someone's gob and say 'it's viral' you'll get away with it for a fair while.

[Magic]

Yeah, doctors can be incredibly shit. They're just following a script a lot of the time and really shouldn't be regarded as highly as they are. I know it's a difficult and stressful job, but some people look to doctors to solve all their problems, but a bad doctor could possibly worsen them.

This cunt was supposed to be a specialised psychiatrist, not a GP.

[Mazuuurk]

Maybe you just need to see a specialised cunt, not a psychiatrist.

[Lewis]

Imagine being some Indian doctor, literally worked your way out of the toilet, and then having Magic coming in roaring.

[Pepe]

All that I wanted is a hug.

[Pepe]

They're just following a script a lot of the time

Probably because The Script works pretty much every time.

[randomlegend]

GP's are the biggest joke. I've literally seen the ones at our practice Google stuff. "wHaTs BeSt AnTibIooTiC 4 EaRiNfaCtIomS?"

I reckon you could just chuck any pleb a GP job. As long as you can look in someone's gob and say 'it's viral' you'll get away with it for a fair while.

Being a GP is an incredibly hard job. The vast majority of what you see is non-specific or incredibly minor bullshit (like idiots demanding antibiotics for a viral sore throat). The minority is serious and you have to be able to sift it out, recognise it and know what to do with it. GPs get slammed for missing cases of things like ovarian cancer but they'll have seen 500 patients with the same symptoms who have IBS for every 1 who has ovarian cancer, and yet they're meant to pick that one out.

Also what's wrong with checking the best antibiotic for a specific indication? Do you expect doctors to remember which of the many antibiotics are best for every one of the millions of different infections despite the fact guidelines change all the time?

The "easy" medical jobs (in my pleb opinion) are things like hyper-specialised orthopedic surgeons who literally only ever do 1 operation over and over and over again. Anything general is hard.

[Disco]

I would imagine 90% of the stuff that walks through the door is minor bullshit. How many different ways can you think of to say 'Wait until it gets better'.

[-james-]

Being a GP is an incredibly hard job. The vast majority of what you see is non-specific or incredibly minor bullshit (like idiots demanding antibiotics for a viral sore throat). The minority is serious and you have to be able to sift it out, recognise it and know what to do with it. GPs get slammed for missing cases of things like ovarian cancer but they'll have seen 500 patients with the same symptoms who have IBS for every 1 who has ovarian cancer, and yet they're meant to pick that one out.

Also what's wrong with checking the best antibiotic for a specific indication? Do you expect doctors to remember which of the many antibiotics are best for every one of the millions of different infections despite the fact guidelines change all the time?

The "easy" medical jobs (in my pleb opinion) are things like hyper-specialised orthopedic surgeons who literally only ever do 1 operation over and over and over again. Anything general is hard.

:huhu:

[Spikey M]

Also what's wrong with checking the best antibiotic for a specific indication? Do you expect doctors to remember which of the many antibiotics are best for every one of the millions of different infections despite the fact guidelines change all the time?


Yes. Especially when they go on to chuck a broad-spectrum antibiotic at everything. If you need Google to tell you to prescribe Amoxicillin for a Chest Infection, then I can only assume that you drank your way through the entirety of your study.

[Giggles]

Hard job or not, my GP is fucking useless.

[Boydy]

If it's that easy maybe you should become a GP, Spikey.

[Disco]

What a weird complaint.

Stop checking this medication is the right one!

[randomlegend]

Yes. Especially when they go on to chuck a broad-spectrum antibiotic at everything. If you need Google to tell you to prescribe Amoxicillin for a Chest Infection, then I can only assume that you drank your way through the entirety of your study.

There's not a lot of focus in medical education on rote learning antibiotic guidelines. Given that it takes all of three seconds to check - and is liable to change at any moment - it's entirely useless information to retain. People tend to remember the ones they have to prescribe a lot but that's about it.

Giggles yes there are most certainly some atrocious GPs around.

[Spikey M]

What a weird complaint.

Stop checking this medication is the right one!



My complaint is that it should be a hard job, and as RL pointed out, some of it is. But, a Dr shouldn't need to sit googling how to treat a common infection. It's their bread and butter.

[Spikey M]

There's not a lot of focus in medical education on rote learning antibiotic guidelines. Given that it takes all of three seconds to check - and is liable to change at any moment - it's entirely useless information to retain. People tend to remember the ones they have to prescribe a lot but that's about it.

Giggles yes there are most certainly some atrocious GPs around.

Fair enough. Although I maintain that having to use Google to prescribe Amoxicillin for a Chest Infection makes you look untrustworthy as fuck.

[Offshore Toon]

I think using Google at least shows they're making sure they get it right. I quite like it when they do a bit of research tbh. I don't expect them to know everything at all, and recognising their flaws is a good thing. It's the doctors that send you down the wrong route that are dangerous.

[Giggles]

There's not a lot of focus in medical education on rote learning antibiotic guidelines. Given that it takes all of three seconds to check - and is liable to change at any moment - it's entirely useless information to retain. People tend to remember the ones they have to prescribe a lot but that's about it.

@Giggles (https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/member.php?u=26) yes there are most certainly some atrocious GPs around.

Even if they think I'm making up whatever I'm saying, jaysus at least get up off the seat and have a look. I'm paying €60 for the ten minutes.

I remember the time I started getting the funny sensations in the right side of my face and went in after a few months of it not getting better. Then, in the usual line of questioning about family history, I mentioned the cousin dying of a stroke at 30. Within a few seconds she thought I was making it all up because of that and was trying to pack me off to 'talk to someone about it' and not another bloody mention of what I actually went in for.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Technically they're only meant to give you 7 minutes.

[Giggles]

Technically they're only meant to give you 7 minutes.

Not when it's not free.

[SvN]

My mother in law is losing her marbles, and her GP has been disgraceful. Her husband has taken her to the doctor's three times, and they keep saying she's fine and just a bit depressed.

There's no doubt in my mind that she's suffering from some sort of dementia. The other week she asked my wife (her daughter) "How's your mum doing?".

[Foe]

I think GPs really struggle to accept dementia as a diagnosis.

My nan was absolutely away with the fairies, very nearly burned down her house (and the terraces around her) and the GP still wasn't convinced.

There must be some serious consequences for a dementia diagnosis that GPs want to shy away from.

Not all mind, I've generalised.

[Magic]

Imagine being some Indian doctor, literally worked your way out of the toilet, and then having Magic coming in roaring.

Absolutey not. He was the mirror image of that one of n the big bang theory. An entitled hipster from the highest caste.

[Lewis]

In that case you would have been well within your rights to have racially abused him.

[Magic]

He probably thought I was beneath him and therefore would have seen it as a compliment from an inferior race.

[Shindig]

He's a doctor, you're a patient. You are beneath him.

[Magic]

He was a psychiatrist, not a doctor.

[Pepe]

Says the 'engineer'.

[Lewis]

He might have been an actual doctorate-having doctor. We should have better titles really to reflect our contribution to human understanding. Letting any medical graduate with a certificate in Googling use the title diminishes us.

[Boydy]

Psychiatrists are doctors.

[Giggles]

Psychiatrists are doctors.

That dropped out of becoming proper doctors.

[Boydy]

No, they're literally medically qualified doctors.

[Lewis]

This is what I mean. We need some hierarchy. I remember some lass Palestinian Jeff was messing about telling me she wanted to specialise in skin because it was the hardest field. Really love?

[Queenslander]

The NHS sounds grim.

[Giggles]

No, they're literally medically qualified doctors.

Yeah on paper but they're not really. Being a doctor of mental stuff is like saying a bricklayer is a doctor of cement.

[Queenslander]

They are qualified GP's that do more study...

[igor_balis]

Never change, Giggles.

[Pepe]

Yeah on paper but they're not really. Being a doctor of mental stuff is like saying a bricklayer is a doctor of cement.

What? :D

[Lewis]

lolling out loud at that FACT.

[Queenslander]

lolling out loud at that FACT.

Pile on!

[Lewis]

Nurses are the divvy ones who direct traffic around the roadworks.

[Queenslander]

Nurses chain smoke and get diagnosed with mentall illnesses.

[Spikey M]

Dr of the sads.

[-james-]

Change Giggles' username to doctor of cement please.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nurses are just flight attendants of the land.

[Spikey M]

They're more like indoor Traffic Wardens, the miserable cunts.

[Spikey M]

Change Giggles' username to doctor of cement please.
He's a Doctor of deliveries, so he's basically a Midwife.

[Offshore Toon]

Pleb is a doctor of trolleys. :cool:

[randomlegend]

I believe if you have a medical degree and a PhD you're officially Dr Dr.

[randomlegend]

They are qualified GP's that do more study...

Both are qualified doctors who've done additional but different further study. I'm not a GP just cus I've finished med school.

[Giggles]

He's a Doctor of deliveries, so he's basically a Midwife.

I deliver Amazon packages rather than children so I'm clearly more important.

But really how much does it take to say 'straighten yourself up and get to fuck on with things' in a nice way, and throw some tablets at someone. Though you'd probably need a doctorate to weed out all the cunts these days who have "mental health issues" as a fashion statement.



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[Shindig]

Give it a couple of years and they'll deliver children as well.

[Spikey M]

Both are qualified doctors who've done additional but different further study. I'm not a GP just cus I've finished med school.

You should Google how to be a GP.

[Pepe]

Pleb is a doctor of trolleys. :cool:

More like a doctor of trolling. :cool:

[Queenslander]

Both are qualified doctors who've done additional but different further study. I'm not a GP just cus I've finished med school.

:moop:

[Spikey M]

I know posts like this generally attract nothing but jokes, but fuck it, I need to process.

My wife is currently up at the hospital with our 5 month old, he's been admitted because he's not gaining anywhere near enough weight, and they're worried there's a more sinister explanation than just 'reflux'. He was born weighing 8.5lb, he's now just over 13lb. Even factoring in his genetic predisposition to having a tiny head, that is a worrying growth rate.

So now I'm sat at home, 3 year old in bed after sobbing her heart out because she's missing her mum, and I don't actually know what to do with myself. I feel completely empty. I should probably be sad or angry at the world, but I'm just, well, empty.

The inevitable Google searches I shouldn't be doing have chucked out everything from Leukaemia to Crohn's disease, and as selfish as this is, I don't know that I could deal with anything like that, and the prospect of doing so has just left me staring blankly at the wall for about 20 minutes.

For 5 months we've been battling this and for 5 months he's just been getting worse. I don't know that I'm depressed, but I feel like I've just given up.

[Lewis]

You might want to consult a doctor of cement before you Google yourself into a panic.

[bruhnaldo]

Spikey M my boy i know you're feeling down and out but I promise you once they figure out what's going on your natural instinct will kick in and you'll just say "fuck it, this is just something we gotta do" and you're gonna be there for the little guy to the absolute fullest.

You guys will get through this. The problem is you just don't know what's going on so you obviously feel helpless cause there's literally nothing you can do right now.

I'm sure you're very stressed out but I promise you guys will get through this. Just gotta figure out what avenue to take. Once they diagnose the problem, you'll spring to action and it'll be fine xx

[Offshore Toon]

That's how I tend to handle stress too, Spike. It's great for pushing on and getting things done, but is almost certainly depression.

[Spikey M]

This is probably going to highlight my complete lack of knowledge on Mental Heath Issues, but I thought 'depression' was for when you have no legitimate reason for feeling how you do, it's just your bodies chemistry being a cunt?

[randomlegend]

Depression is a diagnosis based on symptoms. It can have an obvious cause, no cause at all or anything in between.

This is the description from the international classification of diseases, which is one of the two main bibles for mental health diagnostic criteria:


the patient suffers from lowering of mood, reduction of energy, and decrease in activity. Capacity for enjoyment, interest, and concentration is reduced, and marked tiredness after even minimum effort is common. Sleep is usually disturbed and appetite diminished. Self-esteem and self-confidence are almost always reduced and, even in the mild form, some ideas of guilt or worthlessness are often present. The lowered mood varies little from day to day, is unresponsive to circumstances and may be accompanied by so-called "somatic" symptoms, such as loss of interest and pleasurable feelings, waking in the morning several hours before the usual time, depression worst in the morning, marked psychomotor retardation, agitation, loss of appetite, weight loss, and loss of libido. Depending upon the number and severity of the symptoms, a depressive episode may be specified as mild, moderate or severe

[Shindig]

I always figured depression always comes from a reason. The guys I see that claim for it have usually had long-term unemployment or some kind of trauma in their life. From personal experience, I knew why I was depressed and managed to sort my situation out. That can be hard to do if you've lost the motivation for it. Thankfully, I did get to the point where, like Bruh says, "Fuck it. I need to do this."

Chin up, Spikey. There's nothing unusual about how you're feeling and plenty of other parents have gone through the same thing. Persevere and you'll get through it.

[igor_balis]

Alright, gang. Anyone have issues with OCD/generally obsessive thought processes? I'm not at washing my hands until the skin falls off levels, but some mornings I end up checking all the hobs on the oven are turned off about 5 times. That kind of stuff doesn't really bother me cus it's not massively intrusive, though it's probably the most cliche OCD symptoms I have.

However I have a tendency to get fixated on some fairly insignificant thing and it totally takes over my brain and gets me down despite knowing it's fucking trivial.

A typical thing is CLOTHES, which seems to recur every few years or so. I realised the other day I basically don't have enough clothes, and need a few new t shirts and jeans and stuff. Rational response would be to figure out roughly what I want, go on some websites, buy those things, great.

Instead I can't help but spiralling into overthinking and analysis paralysis with about 29 tabs open on google chrome, panicking that oh if I buy THAT pair of jeans, I'm not sure what trainers it will go with? Hmm, maybe I need to get some new trainers, but what be something to go with the other stuff I have? Oh and I keep buying stuff off asos, I should probably try to diversify, don't want to be the kind of person who just buys everything from the same shop. Then there's about 8 blogs about independent clothing websites open, a cursory 4 hour check of ebay listings etc etc.

Inevitably this mania ends with me getting incredible agitated and just closing down the laptop without buying anything, or worse panic buying about £100 worth of stuff that I end up hating, and I'm still wearing the same tatty clothes I've had for years.

It's not just for clothes, it can be anything. Realised I hadn't gotten into much new music recently and it ended up with me doing some sort of insane data analysis of about 50 BEST ALBUMS OF X/ALL TIME lists, then getting pissed off and listening to The Colour of Spring by Talk Talk 8 times in a row instead. Great album, tbf.

It sorta links in with all my substance abuse issues, in the sense that deep down I've always been drawn towards getting pissed/fucked up as a way to make these intrusive thought processes fuck off basically, yet obviously the aftermath is that I'm ill, rundown and miserable which makes the symptoms much worse.

I'm about a week off the piss, and two weeks without putting any shit up my nose (aside from accidental spillage from scuba diving, natch), which is a start, but I must admit I'm feeling pretty...fragile.


The only plan I've got is to basically force myself to stay sober for a good couple of months, and see how mental I am then. As such I'll be able to roughly separate what issues are directly caused by my dreadful lifestyle choices from stuff that's just there. Then get proper professional help (counselling probably, maybe see a GP if I think some sort of legal chemical intervention might help) to attempt to sort it out.

Anyone suffer from anything similar, and have any advice on how to feel less shit?

[mugbull]

The clothes thing, just buy em in an actual shop. I don’t understand people who do clothes shopping online, you’ll never be satisfied unless you try them on before you buy them.

The album thing, I (used to) do basically the same thing, and I think it’s because we’re both mildly autistic.

You’re fine :)

[Lewis]

Yeah grow up lad.

[Spikey M]

Is everything a mental health issue these days? You're struggling to pick a t-shirt, lad.

[igor_balis]

Blow me

[Jimmy Floyd]

I bought a job lot of 25 cheap t-shirts online for about 48 quid a few weeks ago. Never have to worry about upper half clothing again.

[Panda Bear]

Checking your oven five times before leaving is a compulsion. Researching everything in minutiae for hours on end with no productivity attached to do it would be an example of obsessing.

But an OCD diagnosis requires it to actively intrude upon your life and/or impede your function on a day-to-day basis.

Intrusive thoughts are irrational, distressful, and can't be shaked.

For two examples, I take medication so that I don't have
to:
1) wonder every five to ten minutes if I actually love the woman who is now my wife; and
2) have a vivid image of me violently squashing my dog's skull with my foot flash through my mind whenever I walk by.

Anxiety and stress both tend to exacerbate symptoms. I imagine the former is what is driving that obsessive behaviour you're showing.

[Baz]

I bought a job lot of 25 cheap t-shirts online for about 48 quid a few weeks ago. Never have to worry about upper half clothing again.:lol:

Where from?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Some wholesale site. I won't say they're the highest quality, but I can always do it all again next year and who cares what clothes men wear anyway?

[mugbull]

Some wholesale site. I won't say they're the highest quality, but I can always do it all again next year and who cares what clothes men wear anyway?

Everyone innit

[John]

One of my closest childhood friends died yesterday morning, having taken a load of valium and gabapentin. When his mum went into his phone to get some of his mate's numbers to let them know what had happened, she found a load of texts, written but not sent, basically saying goodbye to people and thanking them for help they'd given him over the years.

I saw him on Saturday and again on Monday and wouldn't have guessed anything was wrong. It's fucked me right up.

[Pharad]

it's most often exactly the case that no1 can see it coming because those that have their suicide already planned are calm and cheerful (their misery is coming to an end, and they know the end-date) it's very hard for those around the person, however, in the end, it's a personal choice.

[Spikey M]

phonics ????

[phonics]

What a good bot.

[Pepe]

Insights.

[Magic]

Fuck this, I'm going back to counselling. My anxiety is through the roof, I'm desperately lonely, I feel totally out of control of everything in my life. I am at 90% of my pressure bar constantly and it occasionally spills over. More often than I'd like. I'm struggling to sleep without waking 40 times a night as well.

[Magic]

Insights.

Funnily enough this is what the charity is called. £25 a session. Full private is £75+.

[Magic]

One of my closest childhood friends died yesterday morning, having taken a load of valium and gabapentin. When his mum went into his phone to get some of his mate's numbers to let them know what had happened, she found a load of texts, written but not sent, basically saying goodbye to people and thanking them for help they'd given him over the years.

I saw him on Saturday and again on Monday and wouldn't have guessed anything was wrong. It's fucked me right up.

I know that feeling mate. Thoughts with ya.

[Boydy]

Found out on sunday night that my old housemate committed suicide.

We weren't really in particularly regular contact any more (which I now feel guilty about) but it's really shaken me up.

Going to the funeral tomorrow. It's going to be horrible.

[Foe]

Found out on sunday night that my old housemate committed suicide.

We weren't really in particularly regular contact any more (which I now feel guilty about) but it's really shaken me up.

Going to the funeral tomorrow. It's going to be horrible.

That sounds horrible. Did they have obvious mental health issues when you lived together or did it come as a bit of a surprise?

It’s an odd feeling being at a funeral of someone your age.

[Boydy]

Yeah, she had a lot of problems but I didn't think it would get that bad. She was going back to uni last September and things were meant to be turning around. I don't know what happened.

[Foe]

Condolences chief.

Will be a tough day, even if you weren’t close, but good to be going. I’m sure her family are in pieces.

How did you find out?

[Boydy]

Her cousin contacted me via facebook.

[Giggles]

There’s not much point in feeling guilty. People lose touch all the time and unless she was making it known she was relying on you then there’s nothing to be hard on yourself over.

[Lewis]

Was this the one who only ever wanted to be your friend?

[bruhnaldo]

Sorry Boydy.

[Dquincy]

Do you know what is causing the depression?

[Boydy]

My dad has depression and it's clear as day. His doctor even told him so when it started manifesting physically. I think a course of SSRIs could change his life but he's too much of a boomer to agree to it. It's incredibly frustrating.

Crush them up and put them in his food.

[Manc]

Do you know what is causing the depression?

All that XG talk.

[Don]

My dad's been a moody cunt for the last 26 years. Man up, accept who he is and shoulder the emotional burden of his tantrums like the rest of us. Fucking mood pills and getting him high :face:

[Giggles]

Answer to everything these days :rolleyes:

Especially when the person pushing them thinks pills are the answer to everything anyway. Maybe that’s the issue anyway.

[-james-]

Thought you were woke Taz ffs.

[Foe]

How’s your brother doing James?

Do you think that’s contributing for you dad?

Anyone else you can speak to about it and get some advice? I’m not sure the TTH collective is a perfect means for this.

[Don]

Thought you were woke Taz ffs.

Only up to a point. Any further and I like to simply mock them to validate my own shortcomings.

[niko_cee]

Crush them up and put them in his food.


All that XG talk.


My dad's been a moody cunt for the last 26 years. Man up, accept who he is and shoulder the emotional burden of his tantrums like the rest of us. Fucking mood pills and getting him high :face:

:D

These are all excellent posts, in their own ways.

[-james-]

How’s your brother doing James?

Do you think that’s contributing for you dad?

Anyone else you can speak to about it and get some advice? I’m not sure the TTH collective is a perfect means for this.

Yeah that's a factor. I think I'm partially concerned that I'm looking at future me.

Sometimes I use this place to vent about personal stuff when I'm feeling a bit emosh and I always regret it.

[Baz]

Vent away.

We're all brothers.

[Giggles]

Vent away.

We're all brothers.

:D you’ll send him an affiliate link in about three posts time.

[Baz]

Tried to find one as a joke but failed and now I have 'depression in the family' in my search history.

If I die of natural causes in the next few weeks, it was not intentional. :dc:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was Mike.