Depression

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've been sweating a lot more since I've been on it too.

I've done mirtazapine (and citalapram) but it didn't work for me bar the first few days. It also made me really angry.

[Boydy]

Did you just stop it completely before? They're meant to taper down the does, aren't they?

I'm on sertraline. Have been for about two years now, come to think of it. Bit scared to come off it, tbh, as I feel okay(ish) these days.

[Shindig]

Medication as a crutch is probably one of the reasons I'd hate to be chronically depressed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did you just stop it completely before? They're meant to taper down the does, aren't they?

I'm on sertraline. Have been for about two years now, come to think of it. Bit scared to come off it, tbh, as I feel okay(ish) these days.
I stopped the citalapram shortly after getting to know the Ukrainian camgirl (ugh) and since going back on I've been open with my GP about medication.

I've gone from different citalapram doses to being weened off in order to go on mirtazapine, then I got a stronger dose before another GP prescribed a small dose of citalapram to go with the mirtazapine.

Then got weened off and put on venlafaxine, I complained that I wasn't sure it was working so they bumped the dose up.

I've ranged from 10mg of citalapram to being on 150mg of venlafaxine currently.

[Lewis]

You should all flush them next time the board is flagging just to see what happens.

[bruhnaldo]

Just wanted to say if anyone needs a random to talk to my PM is always open and I'm more than happy to talk things out.

I know sometimes you just need someone to vent to and if an anonymous American can do it for you by all means please feel free.

[Lewis]

And if he isn't online, just PM me and I'll reply with crap gifs.

[Offshore Toon]

Did you just stop it completely before? They're meant to taper down the does, aren't they?

I'm on sertraline. Have been for about two years now, come to think of it. Bit scared to come off it, tbh, as I feel okay(ish) these days.
Yeah, I did. I know what you mean about not wanting to come off, but I kinda feel like I'm sacrificing highs in order to not feel lows, which I'm not fond of.

[Dark Soldier]

Venlafaxine is horrible stuff. I remember first taking it when we had the pub, went to play a game of pool and I was dripping in sweat just walking around the table. Literally any physical activity and it was a shower of sweat, quit that within two weeks. I think a lot of doctors chuck 'em at you as even they're not fully aware which of them will work with who. I've tried four separate ones, and Mirtazapine is the only one that has properly helped. Got to the point I self medicate. Very good day, none, good/average day, half a tablet, awful day, full 30mg.

[randomlegend]

I'm also on sertraline, it's the fashionable one at the moment particularly for young people. Side effect profile is meant to be a bit better.

It's definitely helped me, although I think it might just be keeping my mood good enough to carry on doing what I'm doing, when really what's going to fix things is changing what I'm doing with my life. Think I just need to stick out the medicine degree til the end and then do something else.

I have found someone at the university (one of the academic advisers) who actually seems to 'get' me, though, as lame as that sounds. Felt like she could put into words things I've always felt but have never really been able to express. Was almost a bit disconcerting. Has made a huge difference talking to her every couple of weeks.

[Lewis]

She's stringing you along for some eclairs.

[Offshore Toon]

Venlafaxine is horrible stuff. I remember first taking it when we had the pub, went to play a game of pool and I was dripping in sweat just walking around the table. Literally any physical activity and it was a shower of sweat, quit that within two weeks. I think a lot of doctors chuck 'em at you as even they're not fully aware which of them will work with who. I've tried four separate ones, and Mirtazapine is the only one that has properly helped. Got to the point I self medicate. Very good day, none, good/average day, half a tablet, awful day, full 30mg.
I might give that a shot. If I can't sleep that'll be the end of that, but I'm doing enough exercise to be tired all the time so hopefully I'm alright.

I'm also on sertraline, it's the fashionable one at the moment particularly for young people. Side effect profile is meant to be a bit better.
I was at an amateur comedy night and a performer was talking about how he takes sertraline for his depression and anxiety. Either it worked far better than anything has for me, or he's just an attention-seeking twat.

[leedsrevolution]

I was on sertraline. Coming off it was quite hard for me. Got these electric shocks in my brain constantly and a lot of vertigo. If anyone decides to come off it, try and coincide it with a holiday.

[Offshore Toon]

Or get signed off. The 'electric shocks' are caused by an electrolyte imbalance. Multivitamins will help sort that for the most part. I used to get it after festivals.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

GP has agreed that I should go off Venlafaxine.

A week of 37.5mg and then I'm on Sertraline.

[randomlegend]

Sertraline crew :cool:

[Spammer]

Not really depression, just general mental health really...

Struggling today. I feel like I could end up having a proper meltdown soon unless something gives. I'm taking on far too much really and I don't think it's sustainable. I'd be alright if I had more people to talk to, but a by-product of taking so much on is finding it hard to find the time to catch with mates and that, which is a really stupid position to be in.

It's only until June, although in September it'll ramp back up again once term starts. So yeah. Fuck sake. See how it goes, but I don't really have any answers.other than delaying my Masters until the year after. That's probably worth considering, thinking about it. Right now though I'm at the stage where I can't relax and I'm getting irritable about tiny little things, which isn't really characteristic of me and is probably a warning sign.

[Lewis]

Take less on then.

[Shindig]

Agreed. Or find a routine that accommodates it, if you're committed to the workload.

[Lewis]

His wage-thief counsellor mates would have spun about ten sessions out of that post as well.

[Spikey M]

I don't really understaand how a student can be that busy.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Spoonsky]

I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but this thing has happened to me where I sort of stop feeling any emotions. I could be in a beautiful place, or talking with great people, and think, 'This is beautiful, I'm happy,' but I don't really feel the happiness. The same thing with sadness or anything else. It's like the place in your body where you usually feel emotions has turned into a rock.

This happened to me before, for about a month last summer, so I recognized it when it began again. I've got absolutely no time for it though.

[Kikó]

Welcome to adulthood.

[Spikey M]

I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but this thing has happened to me where I sort of stop feeling any emotions. I could be in a beautiful place, or talking with great people, and think, 'This is beautiful, I'm happy,' but I don't really feel the happiness. The same thing with sadness or anything else. It's like the place in your body where you usually feel emotions has turned into a rock.

This happened to me before, for about a month last summer, so I recognized it when it began again. I've got absolutely no time for it though.

Congratulations, you're British.

[Spoonsky]

I'm beginning to understand the board a little more...

[Spammer]

I don't really understaand how a student can be that busy.

The course involves five hours of college and ten hours of placement per week, and I also have a full time job because I couldn't afford to do it otherwise.

[Pepe]

Time to hit the drugs Spoons.

[Dquincy]

Doctor: I've got good news, and bad news

Patient: What's the good news?

Doctor: They're gonna name a disease after you.

[leedsrevolution]

So I'm feeling pretty much awful. I have suffered with anxiety and depression before but this feels different. I'm not getting any of the physical symptoms that I usually get (tight chest etc). But I feel an absolute mess. On the verge of a full on mental breakdown. I'm not having suicidal thoughts but I just want to run away, disappear. It's not a relationship thing cos I've no issues in that department. I think the forthcoming child ain't helping. I'm not on any medication at the moment and don't want to get back on it. Don't really know what this message is going to help with either. It's basically just all shit but for no particular reason.

The fact there's no reason behind it makes it worse n all.

[Offshore Toon]

Stick on your favourite album and go for a walk to try and clear your head. Don't turn to booze, though. You might just be tired and can't be arsed.

[Reg]

Keep writing down your thoughts/feelings, leeds. It helps for whatever reason. Exercise and sing and laugh each day. I think you play drums/an instrument too? Try doing some of that if you can.

[Lewis]

He's too far gone for learning the tambourine. Run away (far away) before the kid arrives.

[Shindig]

Find where Lewis lives and punch his dog.

[leedsrevolution]

Keep writing down your thoughts/feelings, leeds. It helps for whatever reason. Exercise and sing and laugh each day. I think you play drums/an instrument too? Try doing some of that if you can.



I went and played drums for an hour then went and played footy. Determined for tomorrow to be more positive. Pisses me of that excersise can make you feel better cos it's well shit.

[Smiffy]

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[Shindig]

I went and played drums for an hour then went and played footy. Determined for tomorrow to be more positive. Pisses me of that excersise can make you feel better cos it's well shit.

But walking is piss and you do it all of the time.

[Offshore Toon]

It might not work for all but I go for a walk with a notepad and trusty travel cup, find a nice spot and write down what was good and bad for the week. Walking is so boring but it really does help and jotting things down at least gives you something visual as opposed to the scattered thoughts in your mind.

Perhaps go for a bath and get an early night, RL. Wake up nice and early then start as you mean to go on?
An early night is impossible for me if my mind is racing.

[Adamski]

Do you think your insomnia is linked to any kind of depression or mental health thing Offy?

[Offshore Toon]

Yeah, definitely. As far back as I remember my parents would be arguing as if I couldn't hear them and obviously it was terrifying as a child. Sometimes I'd even get out of bed and watch/listen from the top of the stairs. So that was my youth up until I was 9. There are plenty of times when I'll put my head down, start breathing slowly in and out and thinking about relaxing stuff but my heart will start racing. Sometimes its because there's something specific on my mind, but that isn't all too often. I'm trying to come off sleeping tablets at the moment, and with exercise I do alright, but my quality of sleep is rarely any good which means I either don't get enough sleep or I sleep long enough to knock my routine out by an hour or two. At the moment I'm opting for the latter because I can't afford to be tired with all my uni work going on. I still am tired most of the time, though.

[Smiffy]

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[Lewis]

It's all that squinting at family gatherings.

Not to be all Magic, but I think this is my favourite post.

[Mazuuurk]

Is anyone on here not on anti-depressants?

[leedsrevolution]

Well I'm not at this present time. Albeit I probably should be. Aaron Lennon detained under the mental health act.

[Mazuuurk]

Encouraging stuff.

[Offshore Toon]

That must be pretty shit given how important sleep actually is. It never ceases to amaze me how many problems in adulthood stem from upbringing.
Yeah, it's bringing me to a stage where I'm not sure I should ever stray from my routine because it takes weeks to get it back.

[Mazuuurk]

Get a kid, Offy. Sounds weird but when you're being subjected to some sort of sleep-depravation torture, you learn how to just appreciate sleep and, well, go to sleep. I always had quite a lot of problems sleeping before but these days I do alright, I can even manage the occasional daytime nap which was out of the question before.

[Offshore Toon]

I have actually considered having kids as an excuse to settle down.

[Mazuuurk]

Why not? There never seems to be a logically good reason to have them but once you have one, you end up thinking you can't do without them.

[Offshore Toon]

Its definitely back on, but it'll be years before I could be certain I was with the right person and be financially stable enough to get started.

[Spikey M]

I have a kid and still sleep shit (even when she's sleeping fine).

[Shindig]

It'll be a change of focus, I guess.

[Spammer]

Met up with the ex yesterday and regret. We've said we'd try and be friends but I think I'll knock it on the head.

She basically told me that she's been severely depressed for the best part of a year and wanted to kill herself earlier on in the year. I don't understand what good there is in telling me this now and not doing so at the time when I could actually could have been of some help. It's messed me up a fair bit, especially as it's just completely unhealthy for me to be the person she goes to, because I've no interest in having much to do with her. We just meet up occasionally for a catch up but I'm going to pack that in I think.

[mugbull]

Maybe you're the only person she feels comfortable and vulnerable enough around to tell, and you cutting her off is going to eliminate her outlet for those thoughts

[Spammer]

Maybe if she'd rung me at the time I'd think that. She's only mentioned in passing that she felt like that a few months ago. I don't understand what the point of doing so was, as there's nothing I can do now about it and nothing I could have done if she'd decided to top herself without mentioning anything at the time. What's the point?

[mugbull]

Yeah it does sound like she's subtly trying to make you feel guilty, although with this kind of stuff you never want to go too 'fuck you bitch' cuz then you're gonna be messed in the head in the off chance she does kill herself. Not to mention indirectly responsible for it

Probably dont have to keep going on pity dates with her tho

[Spikey M]

You must be a great councellor.

[Spammer]

You must be a great councellor.

I am :cool:

You need to try harder. That was a really shit effort.

[Spammer]

Yeah it does sound like she's subtly trying to make you feel guilty, although with this kind of stuff you never want to go too 'fuck you bitch' cuz then you're gonna be messed in the head in the off chance she does kill herself. Not to mention indirectly responsible for it

Probably dont have to keep going on pity dates with her tho

Yeah I wanna back away from the pity dates but make it clear that I'm at the end of the phone and would always do what I can if it gets to that stage again. I said that anyway yesterday, so all I need to do is not meet up with her anymore.

[randomlegend]

Maybe if she'd rung me at the time I'd think that. She's only mentioned in passing that she felt like that a few months ago. I don't understand what the point of doing so was, as there's nothing I can do now about it and nothing I could have done if she'd decided to top herself without mentioning anything at the time. What's the point?

Maybe she didn't feel able to talk about it at the time? Now she's starting to and mentioned it in passing to test the waters?

When I was suicidal I couldn't tell anyone because I knew the moment I did the floodgates would be open and I wouldn't be able to function til I recovered. Ultimately that was what happened anyway, but asking "what's the point?" of the actions of someone who's seriously depressed is ridiculous. They may well not make any 'sense'. That's part of having a major mental illness.

[Lewis]

Icing your suicide note onto a cake would have been a nice touch.

[Spammer]

Maybe she didn't feel able to talk about it at the time? Now she's starting to and mentioned it in passing to test the waters?

When I was suicidal I couldn't tell anyone because I knew the moment I did the floodgates would be open and I wouldn't be able to function til I recovered. Ultimately that was what happened anyway, but asking "what's the point?" of the actions of someone who's seriously depressed is ridiculous. They may well not make any 'sense'. That's part of having a major mental illness.

It's an honesty thing. We were always very open and I think she'll have felt she'd be dishonest if she didn't mention it, in a strange kind of way.

As for asking what the point is - I was processing my own mixed up feelings about it, is all. More than anything what's scared me is that she didn't feel she could get in touch at the time, as I've always been there for her when she's felt like shite in the past. The question was rhetorical - I know why, but it's just scared me a bit.

Edit: It was a bit insensitive to phrase it like that though. Sorry.

[mugbull]

Icing your suicide note onto a cake would have been a nice touch.

How fucking pointless

[Lewis]

A nice bit of cake might help to take the edge off.

[randomlegend]

It's an honesty thing. We were always very open and I think she'll have felt she'd be dishonest if she didn't mention it, in a strange kind of way.


It just doesn't work like that. You can't apply that kind of logic.

She may have wanted to tell you - maybe desperately - but sometimes you just can't.

The fact she "didn't feel she could get in touch" might well have had absolutely nothing to do with you, and absolutely everything to do with her and her illness. Yes perhaps that is scary in a 'she might be depressed again and I wouldn't know' kind of way, but there's every chance it was no reflection on you or your relationship.

I don't know her and can't read her mind, so yeah maybe she is just dicking you about and crying depression for attention. It's perfectly possible. But It's also perfectly possible she's been struggling desperately with this and finally plucked up the courage to tell someone (in whatever way she's gone about that) and you were the person she felt she could tell.

[Spammer]

It just doesn't work like that. You can't apply that kind of logic.

She may have wanted to tell you - maybe desperately - but sometimes you just can't.

You mean the logic of knowing who she is and feeling I have an understanding of why she'd tell me now? Oh, right.

I haven't commented on whether or not she wanted to tell me. I really was just processing my own mixed up feelings about it.


The fact she "didn't feel she could get in touch" might well have had absolutely nothing to do with you, and absolutely everything to do with her and her illness. Yes perhaps that is scary in a 'she might be depressed again and I wouldn't know' kind of way, but there's every chance it was no reflection on you or your relationship.

I've said literally nothing to suggest that I think otherwise.


I don't know her and can't read her mind, so yeah maybe she is just dicking you about and crying depression for attention. It's perfectly possible. But It's also perfectly possible she's been struggling desperately with this and finally plucked up the courage to tell someone (in whatever way she's gone about that) and you were the person she felt she could tell.

Again, I don't think she's crying depression for attention at all. She's had the kind of childhood that you only hear about on TV and has struggled with depression her entire life. I've never questioned her sincerity and you're reading along the wrong lines if that's what you think I've been saying. I'm just upset that she could have killed herself. That's literally it. I'm not making a judgment about her, but it has had an impact and I want to process it.

Maybe I shouldn't come in here expressing my reaction to someone else being in that state and not telling me. Fair enough, as this place is when we ourselves are struggling. Probably best not to mix the two.

[Spikey M]

I am :cool:

You need to try harder. That was a really shit effort.

As an effort to point out you being a self involved cunt whilst a former loved one talks to you about their problems - especially when it is literally your fucking day job - I think it was a pretty good one.

[Spammer]

As an effort to point out you being a self involved cunt whilst a former loved one talks to you about their problems - especially when it is literally your fucking day job - I think it was a pretty good one.

You literally know nothing about her, myself, our relationship, the situation itself or how I actually dealt with it, other than a quick post in which I vented about it, you judgemental cunt.

[Spikey M]

That was a better effort then.

[Spammer]

:D

I thought about editing it after posting to say well played.

[randomlegend]

I've no idea what you're on about any more. What you said in the first post and what you're claiming you meant don't sound like remotely the same thing to me, so wevs.

[Spammer]

I was just upset that she could be dead right now. That's basically it.

[Boydy]

We could all be dead right now.

[Lewis]

Speak for yourself mate.

[randomlegend]

I was just upset that she could be dead right now. That's basically it.

I mean that's not what you said, is it:


I don't understand what good there is in telling me this now and not doing so at the time when I could actually could have been of some help. It's messed me up a fair bit, especially as it's just completely unhealthy for me to be the person she goes to, because I've no interest in having much to do with her.

[Spammer]

I mean that's not what you said, is it:

Not literally, no. I'm not a Zen master, I don't fully understand everything I'm feeling as and when it occurs. I was just processing my feelings, which I thought this place was about.

Refer to my response to Spikey.

[randomlegend]

Yeah, and we can't read your fucking mind or know what you're feeling if even you don't. We can only respond to what you actually post. If post one thing people will respond to what you actually posted, not what you 'meant'. And you can't expect them to do anything else.

[Spammer]

Then maybe the least you should do is give them the benefit of the doubt or ask them what's going on for them. You know, like you're supposed to do with these things.

[randomlegend]

Ironic considering all I was doing was saying you should do that for her.

[Spoonsky]

Alright, we can be depressed but let's not get angry.

[Spammer]

Ironic considering all I was doing was saying you should do that for her.

...but you've literally no idea what I've done for her.

[randomlegend]

No, I just know what you wrote on here and that's what I responded to :cab:

Like fucking hell.

[Spammer]

No, I just know what you wrote on here and that's what I responded to :cab:

Like fucking hell.

Maybe he's expressing his feelings on here that he couldn't express to her

Not hard to imagine, really. But hey, judge away.

[randomlegend]

I didn't judge you. I responded to what you said you didn't understand about her behaviour by trying to give some insight from the point of view of someone whose been on the other side. Stop being such a princess.

[Spammer]

I thought I'd explained things more in literally the next post and even apologised for how it came across, but there we go.

[Pepe]

Who do you think will get a nosebleed first?

[Magic]

Argh I just found out an old colleague tried to commit suicide twice. He's married with 2 young kids. FFS.

[Lewis]

It will only be you left before long.

[Magic]

I think I will join them. Maybe we need to redefine happiness. The self. Fuck the self.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've been off the meds for about 4 weeks now.

I made no concious effort but I found myself forgetting to take them every day for a bit and then I realised I hadn't taken any in about a week the day before I went on holiday. Went to the doctors the other day and they told me that they're happy that I weaned myself off them and to continue without but making sure to look out for any signs.

I think that the counselling I had played a huge part in it. I was a mess for most of it as it brought up some really tough shit but my counsellor was brilliant, he knew when to push and when to back off. When it ended I felt that I still needed a hell of a lot more sessions but that wasn't an option but the break allowed me to fully process what came up and what would have come up.

Genuinely can't remember the last time I felt as 'normal' as I do now.

[Shindig]

Progress! The longer it goes, the more routine it'll feel.

[Spikey M]

Scotland seems a happy place.

[Waffdon]

It's a great place.

[Spammer]

https://thebraindumpsite.wordpress.com/2017/10/08/writing-about-my-mental-health-for-world-mental-health-day/

Wrote a bit about my own mental health for World Mental Health Day tomorrow if anyone's bothered. It's more of a 'personal experience' type read rather than a 'theoretical counselling wankery' one. Not sure if anyone is too fussed but I'm chucking it up just in case. Bosh.

If anyone does read it, any feedback is appreciate on if it reads well etc.

[Smiffy]

I read it and I can't help but think you've just changed your coping mechanism somewhat. You weren't a victim, you weren't a rescuer, you were a mug who got hung up on a lass who played you. As I read each sentence I formed more of an image of the girl than yourself, I can imagine her asking you to jump and you ask how high, I could envisage her giving you shit, making you feel worthless but because she's had a difficult past, you've let it slide. I can imagine trying to process how thoughtless she was after you'd invested a lot of emotion to be a big hurdle for you, her completely blanking you and blocking you with no explanation, no closure, nothing, I can see why that would have you jumping to your own conclusions.

Confabulation sprung to mind. Possibly for the pair of you.

I'll have another read tomorrow but forgetting your story, it's a good post. It's good to talk about such things, whether it comes across as intended or not, it's still helpful both to yourself for venting and letting it out and for others who might follow suit or learn something from it.

You're a good guy, a nice guy, blah blah blah, just be the guy you want to be, don't label yourself. You are you. You aren't defined by your job, your supported team and what not, you're defined by what you do in life, what you believe in, your morals, your convictions. I do have to ask, would you have been such a nice guy, so keen to help her if you knew that fuck all was going to happen after Uni? I wouldn't be so sure. Does that still make you a nice guy?

Some people need a rescuer but in this instance, I think the person who needed rescuing was yourself and you needed rescuing from yourself.

[Spammer]

To be honest what you've said is exactly what I meant when I was writing it. I don't think I was a 'nice' guy in any kind of genuine way - it just made me feel good to think of myself like that.

If I knew nothing would happen, I'd have probably walked away from the beginning. I was just trying to explain the kind of destructive thought process I was having at the time.

I agree that I changed my coping mechanism so I didn't carry on trying to understand it.

[Weaver]

Good post that Hammer, quite a lot of what you’ve wrote resonates with me and a similar situation I’ve had in the last year or so.

How are you, Smiffy?

[Spammer]

Feeling a bit rough for the last week or so. I think it's coincided with finishing my courses. I'm qualified to give counselling to adults and kids, woot.

I've worked my arse off for two and a bit years to work towards this, and now I'm hear and it's cool and all but....I dunno. A fog has come down and I feel really weird. It's not 'depression' but I want to write about it to figure it out before it fucking grows.

I think having a 'project' like a course or something really helps me. It gives me a feeling that I'm moving towards something, rather than swirling an endless, meaningless universe. Now I've finished my courses and I'm not working towards anything, and I'm a bit lost really.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Life's all about the next fight.

[randomlegend]

Forgot to reorder my sertraline so haven't taken it in a few days. My teeth feel odd.

[Spammer]

"We need to stop seeing depression and anxiety as an irrational pathology, or a weird misfiring of brain chemicals. They are terribly painful – but they make sense. Your pain is not an irrational spasm. It is a response to what is happening to you. To deal with depression, you need to deal with its underlying causes."

A fantastic article. Well worth a read for anyone interested in mental health.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-hari-depression-causes_us_5a6a144de4b0ddb658c46a21

[Lewis]

I thought about reading his book, but between loads of people roasting his statistics/understanding on Twitter, and remembering why he had to slunk off to write about depression in the first place (fuck him for letting Owen Jones take over), I decided to give it a miss.

[Spammer]

Yeah I dunno if he's the best person to go to for a proper read on it, but the article itself is decent.

[Boydy]

What About Me? The struggle for identity in a market-based society by Paul Verhaeghe is better than that fucking hack.

How he's made his way back into journalism, I don't know.

[Lewis]

I've never got past article-length versions of this general idea (that advertising and having to work for a living drives people mad), and they all strike me as wibble.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can get on board with the idea that (a lot more of) today's advertising/working for a living eschews the idea of belonging. We all need to belong to something. That's the main reason people go into terrorism for starters.

[Magic]

How can you tell if you're depressed?

[Giggles]

How can you tell if you're depressed?

If you can't you're not. Most people that think they're depressed really aren't. They just need to get up off their holes.

[Boydy]

How can you tell if you're depressed?

If you were to go see your GP about it, they'd probably give you something like this - https://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/depression.aspx

[Lewis]

Normally it would be stuff like hating your situation and taking it out on everyone around you, but in your case who knows.

[Pepe]

If you have to ask...

[Magic]

If you can't you're not. Most people that think they're depressed really aren't. They just need to get up off their holes.

I've never really thought about it too much before having that same logic. I just feel like I'm treading the edge of a black hole and I can't escape, don't know how to or why I'm here. I have some idea it's massively catastrophised but that's just how I feel. Can't help it.

[Magic]

If you were to go see your GP about it, they'd probably give you something like this - https://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/depression.aspx

Impossible to fill out. I'm very conscious that depression is a serious mental illness like that in a scale of 1-10 how much does it hurt.

I got 12/27 but am I answering it right I don't know. I'm just so demotivated, tired and lazy. I can't stop eating, I don't want to go anywhere and I only really care about work where everything is controlled and has a purpose. I can put my mask on and utterly excel. Just struggling with everything else.

[Foe]

We had a talk by Kellie malone (previously Keith I think, the boxing promoter) and Gareth Williams the former Wales rugby player about their struggles accepting who they were. Basically both of them hugely suicidal which was a bit harrowing to hear.

Seems like a significant issue for those of that persuasion.

[Pepe]

Just get yourself some tianeptine off the internet and be done with it.

[Giggles]

I've never really thought about it too much before having that same logic. I just feel like I'm treading the edge of a black hole and I can't escape, don't know how to or why I'm here. I have some idea it's massively catastrophised but that's just how I feel. Can't help it.

Just shake yourself up and get out and do something.

[Pepe]

Can also check out David Burns' book, think it's called Feeling Good. Might help.

[Boydy]

Impossible to fill out.
I got 12/27 but am I answering it right I don't know.
Not sure what you mean here.


I'm just so demotivated, tired and lazy. I can't stop eating, I don't want to go anywhere and I only really care about work where everything is controlled and has a purpose. I can put my mask on and utterly excel. Just struggling with everything else.
But this sounds like it, yes.

[Magic]

Not sure what you mean here.


But this sounds like it, yes.

I don't want to overstate. The no motivation thing is killing me. I feel terrible within myself. I don't want to take my kid to parties or even school.

[Boydy]

Go see your doctor. It might just be a temporary low but it's worth checking out.

[Spikey M]

Nobody wants to take their kids to parties.

But yeah, you sound pretty depressed to me.

[Baz]

If only Hammer was still around. :rotate:

[Magic]

I really don't want to be sick. I have no fight or stomach. I struggle with daily nerve and muscle pain in my butt and legs. I I know exactly how to fix it but I haven't. For nearly 18 months I've been in daily discomfort opting for that instead of a core strength/fitness program. What the fuck.

[Spikey M]

That’s probably linked to the depression though, and even more likely the treatment of one will be helpful in the treatment of the other.


Get help with the depression, then you won’t lack the motivation to make lifestyle/fitness changes. Then, seeing and feeling the benefit of your lifestyle changes will help you start to feel better about yourself.

Of course, I’m not depressed so that might all be utter bollocks. But there are definitely links between physical and mental health, and living with physical discomfort isn’t going to promote great mental health.

[randomlegend]

Yeah it very much sounds like you're depressed.

Join the sertraline gang, lad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I defected from the sertraline gang to fluoxetine.

The bantz are so much better.

[randomlegend]

Fluoxetine gang is full of gimps, magic. Don't listen to him.

[Spikey M]

All the cool kids are buying fake Xanax on the Dark Web.

[-james-]

Have either of you been on citalopram? It was the first thing I was prescribed when I went to my GP in about 2011. Seems to have fallen out of favour (or perhaps NHS budget), but by all accounts seems to be the least shit of that family.

[randomlegend]

Nah I've only been on sertraline. It's first choice, especially in young people, from what I remember and it's always worked well for me so not had to try anything else.

I don't get any particularly bothersome side effects either so all good.

[Bam]

I really don't want to be sick. I have no fight or stomach. I struggle with daily nerve and muscle pain in my butt and legs. I I know exactly how to fix it but I haven't. For nearly 18 months I've been in daily discomfort opting for that instead of a core strength/fitness program. What the fuck.

:wanker:

[Dquincy]

Bam. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Have either of you been on citalopram? It was the first thing I was prescribed when I went to my GP in about 2011. Seems to have fallen out of favour (or perhaps NHS budget), but by all accounts seems to be the least shit of that family.

That was the first thing I was put on and it was the one that worked the best for the longest and then it just stopped.

I think I've been on about 5 or 6 of them across the years.

[Boydy]

Have either of you been on citalopram? It was the first thing I was prescribed when I went to my GP in about 2011. Seems to have fallen out of favour (or perhaps NHS budget), but by all accounts seems to be the least shit of that family.

Had it for a short while about five years ago and it seemed to help a bit. Had it again about three years ago and it didn't seem to help at all. Got switched to sertraline then and been on it since. It seems to help.

[igor_balis]

:hug: lots of love to you MJ you massive weirdo. x

[Spikey M]

What is the national average %age wise for depression? I feel like we’re over represented.

[Giggles]

Get the pains sorted out by a real doctor. Job done.

[Mike]

Yeah go the doctor. Don’t ask us lot, we’re a bunch of idiots.

[Magic]

Jesus Christ the pillage is giving me huge anxiety. I don't really take pills, the thought of taking stuff that may or may not 'alter' my mood gives me the absolute creeps. That along with any potential side effects.

My step-mum was on AD's for ages and it fucked her up (more than originally I don't know).

[Dark Soldier]

Mirtazapine is the absolute bomb lads get on it :drool:

[randomlegend]

Jesus Christ the pillage is giving me huge anxiety. I don't really take pills, the thought of taking stuff that may or may not 'alter' my mood gives me the absolute creeps. That along with any potential side effects.

My step-mum was on AD's for ages and it fucked her up (more than originally I don't know).

I've never understood that position. If it makes you feel a way you don't like, you just stop taking it.

[Dark Soldier]

Tried Citalopram, Venlafaxine, and a couple others, they all fucked me up

[Dark Soldier]

I've never understood that position. If it makes you feel a way you don't like, you just stop taking it.

Anti-depressants take 2-4 weeks to even settle in your system, you don't take one = sorted

[Magic]

I've never understood that position. If it makes you feel a way you don't like, you just stop taking it.

I never said she concurred with my opinion. That's what frightens me. Not that I have great levels of self awareness now, which frightens me more.

[Magic]

How does it help you guys? And what would you be like off it?

[Dark Soldier]

How does it help you guys? And what would you be like off it?


Personally it helps me sleep, helps me be me, I'm pretty much even mood wise (despite some side effects of sweating sometimes). Without it I wouldn't go out, wouldn't do anything, would lose my job, would have suicidal thoughts, so its worth it.

[Magic]

Personally it helps me sleep, helps me be me, I'm pretty much even mood wise (despite some side effects of sweating sometimes). Without it I wouldn't go out, wouldn't do anything, would lose my job, would have suicidal thoughts, so its worth it.

See this is what I meant Boydy earlier when I said I didn't want to overstate how I am feeling because it isn't anywhere near what DS experiences. Maybe being a dad and married kind of forces me to go and work but I don't do much else that being said. I don't have any friends really outside work, I don't go to any groups/sports, it's just nothing. And I hate it. But I have absolutely no desire to change it. The idea is nice, but fuck no.

[Magic]

I am embarrassed to admit though I did jump in my car this afternoon and was going to drive to some nearby cliffs for a walk. I had the nouse to not do that and parked up by a cycle path that goes along a beach and walked along that instead. For the whole walk I thought nothing. I forwarded my mobile to my office's main number and turned off my phone. I don't know what I was thinking really.

[randomlegend]

Anti-depressants take 2-4 weeks to even settle in your system, you don't take one = sorted

Yes I know. But people act like once they start, they are stuck on them even if they make them feel terrible. Which isn't true.

[randomlegend]

How does it help you guys? And what would you be like off it?

It stops me being incredibly down and suicidal. I don't think I ever would have gone through with killing myself because I couldn't bear the thought of what it would do to the people who care about me, but I really wanted to.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mirtazapine is the absolute bomb lads get on it :drool:

I tried it.

The help with sleeping lasted about 5 days and then it went to shit for me.

[Dquincy]

What is the national average %age wise for depression? I feel like we’re over represented.
The board is a magnet for depressed people it seems.

[Dark Soldier]

Yes I know. But people act like once they start, they are stuck on them even if they make them feel terrible. Which isn't true.

From personal, and family experience, no they don't. On Venlafaxine I couldn't walk around a pool table without literally sweating out half my bodyweight, fucked my teeth up from grinding them in my sleep. I take Mirtazapine now only if I feel tired and know I won't sleep. There's always a route off, and many I know (including those met in group support) have followed that path. Some will stick forever, every single night and as you say they will fuck you up. The majority won't.

[Dark Soldier]

Basically without them I'd be dead now so I'll always defend them.

[-james-]

It's not just this board, everycunt I know is on an SSRI.

[Dark Soldier]

They're very good shit if you mix them with 6-8 pints tbf

Which you should NEVER EVER DO kids

[Dquincy]

It's not just this board, everycunt I know is on an SSRI.
I don't know what that abbreviation means, but I'm surprised at your claim, if true.

I've no experience with it, but obviously wish people all the best who are going through mental issues.

Edit: mental health issues.

[randomlegend]

From personal, and family experience, no they don't. On Venlafaxine I couldn't walk around a pool table without literally sweating out half my bodyweight, fucked my teeth up from grinding them in my sleep. I take Mirtazapine now only if I feel tired and know I won't sleep. There's always a route off, and many I know (including those met in group support) have followed that path. Some will stick forever, every single night and as you say they will fuck you up. The majority won't.

I don't get it, I feel like we agree with each other.

[Dark Soldier]

We probably do I've been at snooker and had seven pints and bacon fries all day :happycry:

As you were MJ <3

[Shindig]

Embarrassing side effects have got to be the secret sauce of anti-depressants. "This will make you feel better ... but maybe not in public."

Pure profit.

[Magic]

Do people know you guys are on this stuff?

[randomlegend]

The only side effect I really get is that I can outlast a pornstar.

[randomlegend]

Do people know you guys are on this stuff?

Quite a few friends know I am. Family all do.

[Magic]

Quite a few friends know I am. Family all do.

What do they think? I know a lot of people will be like 'what do you have to feel depressed about' and 'man up' etc

[randomlegend]

Well friends who know are all medics so they understand. Family have all been understanding, although my dad doesn't 'get' me at all in a wider sense (as emo as that sounds).

[Dark Soldier]

Do people know you guys are on this stuff?

Everyone I know does. I'm an open person, nobody gives a fuck. It ain't heroin you're shottin' up in an alley every night.

[Magic]

Everyone I know does. I'm an open person, nobody gives a fuck. It ain't heroin you're shottin' up in an alley every night.

Probably less stigma attached to that tbh tbf

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

From personal, and family experience, no they don't. On Venlafaxine I couldn't walk around a pool table without literally sweating out half my bodyweight, fucked my teeth up from grinding them in my sleep. I take Mirtazapine now only if I feel tired and know I won't sleep. There's always a route off, and many I know (including those met in group support) have followed that path. Some will stick forever, every single night and as you say they will fuck you up. The majority won't.

I got that the first month after going from 20mg of Fluoextine to 30mg. I thought I sweat a lot prior to that but this was insane.

[Boydy]

See this is what I meant Boydy earlier when I said I didn't want to overstate how I am feeling because it isn't anywhere near what DS experiences. Maybe being a dad and married kind of forces me to go and work but I don't do much else that being said. I don't have any friends really outside work, I don't go to any groups/sports, it's just nothing. And I hate it. But I have absolutely no desire to change it. The idea is nice, but fuck no.
It doesn't have to be as bad as what DS said. Being a dad and being married probably does force you to go to work but it doesn't sound like you enjoy anything outside of that. It sounds like you're in a bit of a rut. I'd try to make some changes (I know it's difficult) first and see if that helps improve things and if not/you don't get anywhere with that, go see your GP.



Do people know you guys are on this stuff?

Yeah. I don't go around telling people but if the topic ever comes up, I'd talk about it. Plenty of people I know have been on them so it doesn't really seem like an issue.

[Spikey M]

I had 10mg Amitriptyline for my sciatica and it’s fucking awful. I couldn’t function before lunch time and wanted to do nothing but sleep. That’s a low dose compared to what they give for depression too. I have no idea how people live on the stuff, unless they prescribe some eccy to offset the tiredness.

[randomlegend]

Amitriptyline in a different type of antidepressant. They aren't used much for depression any more.

I tried it as a migraine preventer and I agree it's a horrible drug.

[Giggles]

Amitriptyline in a different type of antidepressant. They aren't used much for depression any more.

I tried it as a migraine preventer and I agree it's a horrible drug.

I had it for the same reason and it's fucking brutal, zombie doesn't even cover it. Flushed the lot after a couple.

[Magic]

I *almost* bottled it this morning and didn't call. But I followed through and got one for 10 days time. This will be the incubation period where I convince myself I'm totally fine and cancel on the 9th day.

[randomlegend]

Whatever happens, go to the appointment. Even if you feel completely better, just go and talk it through with someone. It can help so much.

[Panda Bear]

Fluoxetine is cool because when I take it, I only get a few intrusive thoughts a day as opposed to twenty plus.

Not having vivid flashes of stepping on your dog's head, crushing it and having gore splay all over whenever you gingerly step over her while she's napping. :Cool:

[Dark Soldier]

Tbf most anti-depressants leave you absolutely fucking knackered during the bedding in period. I'm still tired a lot now but at the point I can get shit done and sleep well at night rather than never wanting to get out of bed.

[Spikey M]

I had to come home from work the day after I took it. I was just staring at the screen like a dribbling mong. Even more so than usual.

[Boydy]

Tbf most anti-depressants leave you absolutely fucking knackered during the bedding in period. I'm still tired a lot now but at the point I can get shit done and sleep well at night rather than never wanting to get out of bed.
I can't really remember if mine did that or not but I take my daily dose at night just to avoid any tiredness effects.

[Boydy]

I *almost* bottled it this morning and didn't call. But I followed through and got one for 10 days time. This will be the incubation period where I convince myself I'm totally fine and cancel on the 9th day.
How are you feeling? I hope you're still going to go regardless.

I missed a couple days of sertraline and I felt fucking great today. Possibly a bit manic. Might just be a combination of various positive factors though, I dunno.

[Panda Bear]

Magic: if you don't attend your appointment, everyone in this forum is going to think you're a little bitch.

[Magic]

How are you feeling? I hope you're still going to go regardless.

I missed a couple days of sertraline and I felt fucking great today. Possibly a bit manic. Might just be a combination of various positive factors though, I dunno.

I am still going to go. I felt really awful and riddled with stomach churning anxiety the first couple of days, but I did what I do best (put my barriers up and became an unbearable cunt). I spoke to my step-mum who's had depression for years and it was eerie describing it to her as she 'got' it.

[Mazuuurk]

This is the same step-mum you seemingly hate (and she you) that's massively undermining your relationship with your wife and kid?

What could go wrong :|

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You're thinking of the mother in law.

[Spikey M]

We all are. :drool:

[Mazuuurk]

You're thinking of the mother in law.

I was, yeah.

[Boydy]

I am still going to go. I felt really awful and riddled with stomach churning anxiety the first couple of days, but I did what I do best (put my barriers up and became an unbearable cunt). I spoke to my step-mum who's had depression for years and it was eerie describing it to her as she 'got' it.
Good to hear. That you'll still go I mean, not that you've been feeling shit.

The doctor's the best person to see. They'll listen and won't be judgemental and you'll be grand. They might offer you counselling too. Although that can take a while. If they do, go for it. I found it helped.

[Magic]

Yeah definitely. I've become more aware that it isn't 'normal' to feel this way (or not feel at all, as the case may be). Thanks for asking. :)

[Magic]

I've got prozac lol. I feel like a parody Offspring song.

[Panda Bear]

Fluoxetine is good for managing obsessive-compulsive disorder too, so if you happen to have any intrusive thoughts, they should decrease.

[Boydy]

I've got prozac lol. I feel like a parody Offspring song.

Good on you seeing it through and going. Hopefully they'll help. Just remember you've got to give them a few weeks to start working to try to persevere with any unpleasant side effects at first.

[Magic]

No side effects so far (I don't think). I'm questioning everything I don't know what is 'normal' and what isn't. How will I know if its working? I know she said give it 4 weeks but still.

[bruhnaldo]

Keep with it Magz it'll get easier bub.

[bruhnaldo]

Magic I hope you're keeping up with your stuff :)

[Magic]

Yes I am bro. That's day 5 today, don't feel any different (I don't think). I felt really quite sick last night and this morning, and yesterday I had really bad foggy head which is strange as I'm quite forgetful and clumsy with my thoughts anyway, but I couldn't put 2+2 together and it frustrated the hell out of me.

[randomlegend]

As if your maths is that advanced normally.

[Magic]

SIDE EFFECT ALERT: I can't orgasm. I can cum, but the feeling is about 5% of what it normally is. SHIT.

[randomlegend]

Mine take ages but when I do it's earth-shattering.

[Magic]

Shit I forgot to take my tablets 2 days in a row, and now I'm a quivering, anxious mess on a customer's premises.

Edit: sweaty, quivering, anxious mess.

[-james-]

My girlfriend was the same if she ever missed her pills, it looked horrible.

She's been off them now for a few months, fwiw, and is doing way better than I think either of us expected. They were horrible for her to be on, but it looks like they actually worked.

[Magic]

Oh yeah they are working fine for me. Really frustrated I forgot again.

Sickness now too.

[Spoonsky]

So has it made a difference?

[leedsrevolution]

Coming off them was hell for me. Electric shocks to the brain every time I moved my eyes and vertigo like a mother fucker.

[Magic]

So has it made a difference?

Yes I think so. I feel more in control, and stuff doesn't feel so catastrophic as it did. I went through a bad couple of weeks just there (when I wasn't posting) but am picking up again. It was the 2nd week in the holiday and the week after I got back.

[Mazuuurk]

This board is basically your therapist in a way so no wonder you felt worse when not posting here.

[Magic]

I think I have adult ADHD. Literally every fucking symptom. And that, gentlemen, is probably the real cause of my depression.

[Panda Bear]

I think I have adult ADHD. Literally every fucking symptom. And that, gentlemen, is probably the real cause of my depression.
Or it's simply comorbid.

There's an SNRI called Vyvanse out there that works on ADHD whilst relieving some depressive symptoms.

[Panda Bear]

Beyond medication, though, it seems like you should look into some work with an occupational therapist or psychologist to help develop some strategies so that you can live a healthier life.

[Magic]

What an absolute idiot.

I built myself up for today, got really anxious and excited only to be told I had to be referred to the mental health clinic, which will be at least 3 months.

So now I'm devastated.

[bruhnaldo]

is there a way to get around the absurd wait time? why so long?

[Magic]

The benefits of 'free healthcare'. Wish I lived in the States.

[Spikey M]

Because the US have such great Mental Health treatment?

[Magic]

Yeah I could go buy a .357 from Adbul's and melt my brain rather than constantly have to worry about inconveniencing people by jumping off a bridge/running in to traffic/etc.

[Magic]

Fuck this I'm going for a private consultation. I want to get off these 'plaster' tablets and start treating the root. 3+ months? Eurgh.

[Magic]

Lol £300 for 45 mins. 3+ months it is. :(

[Waffdon]

3+ months? I did not have to wait that long. Sheeeessh.

[Waffdon]

Six and a half weeks since I was seconds away from killing myself, troops. Life is crazy. The only way is up x

[Boydy]

Wait, you what?

[Lewis]

Please hand in your sesh gremlin badge at the desk.

[Waffdon]

Wait, you what?

Was smoking on a top floor flat out on the window ledge. Wasn’t even really paying attention and next thing I knew I was between the two windows. Looked down, thought ‘fuck it, I’m not wanting this anymore’. My mate shouted at me and that’s what stopped me. Couldn’t imagine what he’d go through if he’s the one to see me broon bread in the middle of the road.

[Magic]

Damn son. Heavy. Glad you're still here. X

[Magic]

Also got my referral through for December lol.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've seen a post-suicide jumping body. Don't do it, it's not a pretty way to die.

[Shindig]

You die at the end of life anyway. Why put the effort in when you're body's built to fail? Play for time, not for the early finish.

[bruhnaldo]

I deleted my posts. Not really the thread for such musings tbh.

[Magic]

Just got told my little brother (16) who I'm on holiday with just now is going to the doctors when he gets back because he thinking about taking his own life.

He's been difficult this week but tonight he really was a fanny and I felt like decking him.

Anyway I apologised (not sure for what) and he told me to fuck off etc. Glad I took that approach now. Basically wide awake on suicide watch FML.

[Magic]

That's now potentially 3 out of 7 kids on anti-Ds.

[Shindig]

It's not you, it's Dundee.

[SincereTheRebel]

Your little brother may look to at his bigger brother for guidance. He may want what you have. Regardless of pleasure or pain.

[Giggles]

How come you are constantly on holidays? Do you work any more?

[Spikey M]

Probably not the right thead, but fuck it. I’m feeling anxious as fuck right now. My Sister in Law has just given birth to their second born and their 3 year old has - to put it really fucking lightly - not taken it well. Won’t sleep, punching, kicking etc. With our second born due any time now, and our daughter being of a similar age, I am pretty worried we have the same in store. I don’t think she’d be like it, but you never know.

On top of that I am about to hand in my notice to my employer of 5 years and start a new job after Paternity leave. I don’t actually know what that job will be, because I have another interview tomorrow and would prefer it to the job I have already accepted. I fucking hate uncertainty.

Not sleeping and my IBS is flaring up nicely. Might become an Alcoholic to deal with it all.

[mugbull]

Paternity leave, what a foreign concept to us Americans

[Magic]

How come you are constantly on holidays? Do you work any more?

Successful sales executive. Need to spend my commission somehow plus my pipeline is so fluid I'm going to walk in to hundreds of signatures when I get back.

[Giggles]

Successful sales executive. Need to spend my commission somehow plus my pipeline is so fluid I'm going to walk in to hundreds of signatures when I get back.

Ah, so you're not actually on holidays then and just making it up. Grand.

[Shindig]

All business, all trips.

[Magic]

Ah, so you're not actually on holidays then and just making it up. Grand.

No I am. Rotterdam next month is business though.

[niko_cee]

Probably not the right thead, but fuck it. I’m feeling anxious as fuck right now. My Sister in Law has just given birth to their second born and their 3 year old has - to put it really fucking lightly - not taken it well. Won’t sleep, punching, kicking etc. With our second born due any time now, and our daughter being of a similar age, I am pretty worried we have the same in store. I don’t think she’d be like it, but you never know.


Is your kid a total shit?

Then I wouldn't worry.

[Spikey M]

Is your kid a total shit?

Then I wouldn't worry.

:D

As I said, I don’t expect her to be like it, she’s never been violent, but acting up when a sibling comes on the scene is pretty normal.

[bruhnaldo]

Spikey i'd imagine that's a worst case scenario that you won't endure. My cousin had 3 girls about the same length apart and they all managed very well apparently without too much fuss at all. If you land somewhere in the middle you'll be fine :)

[bruhnaldo]

Magic I hope you're still following through on all of your appointments and things. You're an important person to many people, including us here :)

[mugbull]

Bruh :happycry:

[bruhnaldo]

Magic have you kept up with your appointments and what not? Hope you're getting on well.

[Magic]

I can't decide whether this is genuine or whether you want me to die.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's hoping to lure you to Florida so he can rape and then shoot you.

[Shindig]

A Scotsman in Florida would melt before he touched tarmac.

[Spikey M]

Last time I went to Turkey there was a Scottish family there. They had a similar aged kid to ours, so we'd chat a bit and do our bit to keep the UK together. Vote No and all that.

Anyway, the husband was a ginger - the type of transparent skinned ginge that only Scotland has - and he spent every day in the pool in trousers, a long sleeved t-shirt and one of those hats that Noel Gallagher wears in the sunshiiiiine. Liberal amounts of factor 50 were applied, leaving a layer of oil on top of the kids pool.

Still burned. Blisters on the back of his neck and everything. Bless 'em.

[bruhnaldo]

https://i.imgur.com/urEmUmo.jpg

I've seen this meme and am slightly worried cause lol 4 times in a lifetime?! Fuck off.

[bruhnaldo]

I can't decide whether this is genuine or whether you want me to die.

I just saw this but I was being very sincere ironically :(


He's hoping to lure you to Florida so he can rape and then shoot you.

#JustFloridaThings

[Magic]

Day 6 of cold turkey from Prozac.

Initially the worst symptom was disgusting bloatedness and indigestion. Then chronic anxiety, which in turn resulted in chronic nausea. ]

Feel better now though, I'm sleeping better however I am constantly anxious. That is the one thing Prozac helped me with. I've read about Comorbitidy, and I think I've always had anxiety and ADHD combined.

Got another appt with the psychiatrist on the 24th of Jan where I hope I can get help. Until then I'll just have to manage. Thank FUCK I am not on Prozac anymore. I'm also well aware that I could dip again in terms of withdrawal.

[Boydy]

Why did you come off it?

I tried coming off my sertraline a couple of months ago. I thought it was going okay as I tapered off it but then a week or two into having none, I was an anxious mess again. I could see that the constant rumination from that would lead right back to depression. So I got back on them again. Fuck dealing with that.

[Magic]

Why did you come off it?

I tried coming off my sertraline a couple of months ago. I thought it was going okay as I tapered off it but then a week or two into having none, I was an anxious mess again. I could see that the constant rumination from that would lead right back to depression. So I got back on them again. Fuck dealing with that.

It made my ADHD worse (hyperactivity), I had no libido, totally disturbed sleep and horrific vivid dreams.

The downside is I'm an anxious mess.

I'm hoping I can be prescribed something to manage the anxiety.