The yankee mass shootings thread

[phonics]

So it seems that a fed was hanging out in a racist chat room planning this shooting with the guy and the rest of the police force is refusing to take part in the investigation into how they fucked up. Defund the police.

[Shindig]

Oh, is this one of those 'lets make a terrorist' situation? They need to stop doing that.

[Spikey M]

dEfUnD tHe pOlIcE.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We've been defunding the police for years over here, and the result is that most crimes up to and including violent street robbery just don't get investigated.

[Spikey M]

Indeed. The police are often a shambles. Sometimes a corrupt shambles. But we need them. Crime would go through the roof without them and vigilante justice - ala Pakistan - tends to be a fair bit worse than the odd bit of police brutality.

[Offshore Toon]

I do think about what would happen whenever somebody brings up getting rid of the police.

It'd be quite fun living in communes with people taking turns doing night watch. I think Jersey would be fine until a bunch of pirates turn up, then we'd have to hope the rifle clubs haven't killed each other.

Hopefully when society collapses we can devolve into a simpler life of farming and fighting again.

[Raoul Duke]

The "defund the police" thing gets intentionally misconstrued so that these very same arguments become the dog whistle talking points - what it actually means (or should) in the US context is stopping them wanking loads of money on military hardware and instead redistributing that budget to mental health service, education etc which would likely have a better chance at improving things

[Spikey M]

They should pick a better blurb then. "Reform The Police".

[Yevrah]

Words really don't mean anything anymore.

[Lewis]

The "defund the police" thing gets intentionally misconstrued so that these very same arguments become the dog whistle talking points - what it actually means (or should) in the US context is stopping them wanking loads of money on military hardware and instead redistributing that budget to mental health service, education etc which would likely have a better chance at improving things

That's what they retreat to arguing when someone points out that lawlessness isn't good actually. They really do mean get rid of them.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's yet another of those things which is very specifically American but which other countries like to project onto their own contexts because they have no imagination for anything outside what they've seen in US TV and films.

[Pepe]

The "defund the police" thing gets intentionally misconstrued so that these very same arguments become the dog whistle talking points - what it actually means (or should) in the US context is stopping them wanking loads of money on military hardware and instead redistributing that budget to mental health service, education etc which would likely have a better chance at improving things

A motte-and-bailey if I ever saw one.

[Ian]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF6SNxNIV08

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61669873

Four dead at a hospital in Oklahoma.

[Lewis]

More wounded than dead, shooter unidentified... Ignore this one.

[Shindig]

People die in hospitals all the time, etc ...

[Disco]

Must be all the doors.

[Don]

Was the ticketless Reds.

[John Arne]

ANOTHER one at a funeral???

We need more guns!!!!

[Disco]

Arm the dead.

[John Arne]

Apparently police investigations in the area have discovered 424 dead bodies.

RIP.

[niko_cee]

Another one in the news although it sounds fairly run of the mill.

Heard some stat today that since the Uvalde shooting there have been 700 odd gun deaths in America. :cab:

[niko_cee]

Gun control you say? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61915237)

The whole history of the concealed carry thing is quite interesting and, perhaps unsurprisingly, is an almost entirely modern expansionist movement.

[Baz]

1573691419696431109No idea how this ended up on my timeline but there is something remarkably amusing about the kid sharing their name with a gun.

[Shindig]

Two elderly Chinese men go on rampages within a week. What's wound them up?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64382598

[niko_cee]

Xi's pushed the button.

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65325867

Not a mass shooting but this week has basically been a daily 'nutcase executes person for the most minor thing' spree, is this just the norm now? Someone getting shot for saying 'Good Morning' next?

[Spikey M]

Past caring tbh. Fuck 'em.

[niko_cee]

I have no idea about this other than reading a few clickbait stories, but the idea of prosecuting a security guard/police deputy for failing to engage an assault rifle armed 'active shooter' is peak lol 'murica stuff.

WATCH ALONG HERE (https://www.courttv.com/news/fl-v-scot-r-peterson-parkland-school-cop-trial/)

[niko_cee]

Jury's out in the Peterson case, which surely has the potential to be one of the most disastrous legal decisions in recent American history [which is some going] if he is found to be culpable. Good luck ever recruiting a teacher or security guard ever again if you make it their legal duty to be the 'good guy with a gun' in a school shooting situation, which would seem to be the logical follow on from deeming him a 'caregiver' and therefore duty bound to sacrifice his own life to protect others.

[Adramelch]

Viewer discretion and all that:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWvKT5fHa0U

[Shindig]

It's not a job for normal people.

[John Arne]

And another.

[niko_cee]

I know there were some fairly unique circumstances surrounding this kid who's parents are in the process of being 'held accountable' for him going on a shooting spree, but I did rather enjoy some of the commentary proffered by the victims' families that maybe the school authorities should also be held to account. If only there was some way to stop this kind of thing from happening again and again. To the Bill Burr youtube archive!

[Ben]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68248172

This has got to be near the top of the list for worst kill ratios. Was it a BB gun?

[Shindig]

Imagine being outgunned by Randy Stair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eaton_Township_Weis_Markets_shooting


Belief that he would be reborn as an animated female ghost from Danny Phantom