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Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:33 PM
...Requesting permission to shake the hand of the daughter of the bravest man I've ever met.

What's your favourite cheesy movie?

Lewis
30-09-2015, 06:35 PM
I'm actually quite disappointed that you consider it 'cheesy'. I thought you were the only other person who truly understood it.

wullie
30-09-2015, 06:37 PM
Bill Pullman's speech in Independence Day is a thing of majesty.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:37 PM
I'm not sure I do think that really, given I also think it's a masterpiece. I always get massive goosebumps at that line.

We're probably in a minority on that score though Lewis, hence the thread.

I'm long past the point of caring about what people think about the things I enjoy.

Magic
30-09-2015, 06:38 PM
#inb4schindlerslist

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:40 PM
He's just said it, my legs have gone again and I feel like a 12 year old girl who's ridden a horse for the first time.

It's tragic how shit Michael Bay became.

Lewis
30-09-2015, 06:40 PM
:cool:

It's a fucking work of art, and the best disaster film ever made. People need to realise.

QE Harold Flair
30-09-2015, 06:41 PM
I don't like cheesy movies. The whole 'so bad it's good' thing is usually a load of shit, although one has to have viewed 'The Room' just to experience it.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:43 PM
:cool:

It's a fucking work of art, and the best disaster film ever made. People need to realise.

Completely agree.

Sky have just absolutely cunted the credits by playing some adverts for other shit over Aerosmith, from about 15 seconds in. :nono:

Boydy
30-09-2015, 06:43 PM
The Rock.

Disco
30-09-2015, 06:44 PM
Had to google what this was from, never seen it.

But Top Gun, Commando and Raw Deal should all qualify.

Lewis
30-09-2015, 06:44 PM
In 2012, an article titled "Could Bruce Willis Save the World?" was published in the Journal of Physics Special Topics, an undergraduate journal used as a teaching tool at the University of Leicester.[22] It found that for Willis' approach to be effective, he would need to be in possession of an H-bomb a billion times stronger than the Soviet Union's "Big Ivan", the biggest ever detonated on Earth.

Nobody even cares. This is where Christopher Nolan went wrong.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:45 PM
The Rock.

If we're ranking the holy trinity, I'd probably go for:

1. Armageddon
2. Independence Day
3. The Rock

Boydy
30-09-2015, 06:46 PM
Does Die Hard count as cheesy?

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:46 PM
Nobody even cares. This is where Christopher Nolan went wrong.

Ahmen.

Ironically Nolan still got stick for doing science wrong.

Armageddon is a far far better film than Interstellar.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:47 PM
Does Die Hard count as cheesy?

Maybe. I'm not sure.

I love that too either way. Although most people don't understand that the order of goodness is 1 > 2 > 3 and not 1 > 3 > 2.

Byron
30-09-2015, 06:48 PM
Independence Day :drool:

What a fucking movie that is.

Lewis
30-09-2015, 06:48 PM
I would have The Rock second on account of Lewis' Law, but I'm happy with the 'Holy Trinity'. Die Hard (for example) is class, but I don't really see it as the sort of thing you can pick up forty minutes in and still get right in to. I'm not entirely sure why that is, but there we go.

Disco
30-09-2015, 06:48 PM
Beverly Hills Cop.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:52 PM
I would have The Rock second on account of Lewis' Law, but I'm happy with the 'Holy Trinity'. Die Hard (for example) is class, but I don't really see it as the sort of thing you can pick up forty minutes in and still get right in to. I'm not entirely sure why that is, but there we go.

Indeed - I only caught the last 15 or so minutes of Armageddon there and it still made me damp.

For me, the end of The Rock shits itself a bit (from its previously very high standards) when Ed Harris bottles it.

Armageddon is perfect from start to finish, while Inependence Day goes off the rails a bit with the boring subplot with Will Smith's wife. You care about her because Big Willy does, so you don't need to see her in addition to that to do so.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:53 PM
Beverly Hills Cop.

Oh yes.

Probably wouldn't have that down as cheesy, or didn't think others did, but what a film and what a soundtrack.

Magic
30-09-2015, 06:54 PM
Die Hard is not cheesy.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:54 PM
I've just noticed there's a rogue comma in the quote in the thread title. There's no pause before ma'am, is there? IMDB seem to think so.

Magic
30-09-2015, 06:56 PM
Rush Hour. :cool:

Magic
30-09-2015, 06:57 PM
Also fuck your trinity Lethal Weapon is cheesy as fuck.

Disco
30-09-2015, 06:57 PM
Oh yes.

Probably wouldn't have that down as cheesy, or didn't think others did, but what a film and what a soundtrack.

It's on the cusp of cheesy I'd say, benefit of the doubt for Rosewood alone.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 06:57 PM
Also fuck your trinity Lethal Weapon is cheesy as fuck.

And also not as good as any of those films.

Lewis
30-09-2015, 06:57 PM
I've always thought his BOTTLE JOB makes it more complex and drama drama drama. Plus Sean Connery predicts it after a brief chat with him, so that's another thing he dons.

Magic
30-09-2015, 06:59 PM
And also not as good as any of those films.

It's better than Armageddon.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:00 PM
I've always thought his BOTTLE JOB makes it more complex and drama drama drama. Plus Sean Connery predicts it after a brief chat with him, so that's another thing he dons.

I dunno, I think what makes these type of films so good is a black and white villain (be that Hans Gruber, some Aliens who want to wipe us out, a bad man who owns an art gallery or a fucking big rock). As soon as you get to moral ambiguity it dilutes the awesomeness. Which The Rock had in spades up to that point.

phonics
30-09-2015, 07:01 PM
The Rock is bloody awful. Pure nostalgia.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:05 PM
Get out.

Ian
30-09-2015, 07:06 PM
True Lies is brilliant and plenty cheesy. Not that it's necessarily my favourite cheesy film (it's up there) but it's one which sprung to mind.

"You're fired." :cool:

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:06 PM
I tell you what I did re-visit the other day that's actually a bit crap (beyond the awesome premise that sustains it for a while), Face Off.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:07 PM
True Lies is brilliant and plenty cheesy. Not that it's necessarily my favourite cheesy film (it's up there) but it's one which sprung to mind.

"You're fired." :cool:

I've still no idea why you can't buy that on Blu-Ray.

Magic
30-09-2015, 07:07 PM
True Lies is incredible. That JLC scene was my first erection I'm sure of it.

Henry
30-09-2015, 07:08 PM
Armageddon is shit.

I pick Commando.

hfswjyr
30-09-2015, 07:12 PM
Armageddon is a beast of a film. When Bruce Willis has the flashbacks before he detonates. What a moment. Chills all over, every time.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:14 PM
Armageddon is a beast of a film. When Bruce Willis has the flashbacks before he detonates. What a moment. Chills all over, every time.

Grace, I know I promised you I was coming home.

I-I don't under-understand.

Looks like I'm gonna have to break that promise.

:cry:

John
30-09-2015, 07:15 PM
I'll sit down to Running Man any time it's on.

Moving away from action films a little, although there's still an obviously slimy, hateful 'villain', Coming to America is brilliant.

Disco
30-09-2015, 07:16 PM
I'll sit down to Running Man any time it's on.

Oh fuck yes.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:17 PM
Running Man's another one you can't get on Blu-Ray.

But that and Coming to America. :hail:

I'll chuck in Trading Places as well.

Lewis
30-09-2015, 07:18 PM
I tell you what I did re-visit the other day that's actually a bit crap (beyond the awesome premise that sustains it for a while), Face Off.

John Travolta sustains it. People don't properly appreciate (again) that he's playing Nicolas Cage playing John Travolta. He gets the quirks and everything bang on.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:19 PM
John Travolta sustains it. People don't properly appreciate (again) that he's playing Nicolas Cage playing John Travolta. He gets the quirks and everything bang on.

Yeah, that bit of it is great. It's just a shame the plot runs out of steam quite quickly, with a fair bit of runtime still to go.

John
30-09-2015, 07:21 PM
48 Hrs. is another one. It's a shame Eddie Murphy disappeared up his own rectum, he did some properly good work.

Disco
30-09-2015, 07:21 PM
How about Hard Boiled? Love that.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:23 PM
48 Hrs. is another one. It's a shame Eddie Murphy disappeared up his own rectum, he did some properly good work.

You look at all these films and I'm not sure it's all his fault really, in that who is writing these type of films these days?

We've gone well past the cheesy point and into 80s and 90s classics territory now, but I genuinely can't think what their teens equivalent would be.

Serj
30-09-2015, 07:23 PM
I'd actually put Independence Day slightly above Armageddon. It's just got something about it that makes it infinitely rewatchable, whereas I'll not necessarily leave Armageddon on if I stumble upon it. I don't know why that is, either. Probably Jeff Goldblum's dad.

Magic
30-09-2015, 07:24 PM
How about Hard Boiled? Love that.

Oh yeah.

Disco
30-09-2015, 07:26 PM
Making a departure from 80's/90's action films I'm going to suggest Naked Gun and Murder by Death. Airplane too.

Magic
30-09-2015, 07:27 PM
You look at all these films and I'm not sure it's all his fault really, in that who is writing these type of films these days?

We've gone well past the cheesy point and into 80s and 90s classics territory now, but I genuinely can't think what their teens equivalent would be.

That's a new thread. Get on it.

John
30-09-2015, 07:29 PM
The 'noughties' equivalent of that sort of 'Wunza' film would be something like Rush Hour 2, which says much of what needs said.

Eddie Murphy didn't just go from starring in films like Beverly Hills Cop to doing good work in lesser films. He started exclusively taking on whatever wacky family shite Robin Williams had turned down.

Magic
30-09-2015, 07:30 PM
That was made in the nineties you spaz.

Boydy
30-09-2015, 07:32 PM
You look at all these films and I'm not sure it's all his fault really, in that who is writing these type of films these days?

We've gone well past the cheesy point and into 80s and 90s classics territory now, but I genuinely can't think what their teens equivalent would be.

Comic book films?

Cord
30-09-2015, 07:40 PM
Do we count Commando as cheesy? It's ludicrously silly, but I'm not quite sure it's cheesy. I think you need a certain amount of attempted seriousness to be Cheesy.

If I can't have Commando, then it's got to be The Rock, followed by Independence Day. Air Force One could be a contender.

Yevrah
30-09-2015, 07:42 PM
Comic book films?

Yeah, I guess the shit behemoth that they are has engulfed much of what went before.

Ian
30-09-2015, 08:31 PM
Naked Gun. :drool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCpGCpHfaSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEjo0ajod1M

"Tex Colorado, the Arizona Assassin."

Disco
30-09-2015, 08:34 PM
Well now I have to watch Police Squad again.

Reg
30-09-2015, 08:34 PM
I don't think Die Hard is cheesy. The premise of it could sound cheesy, but there aren't any cheesy lines or moments of acting are there?

Disco
30-09-2015, 08:35 PM
I don't think Die Hard is cheesy. The premise of it could sound cheesy, but there aren't any cheesy lines or moments of acting are there?

Apart from every second Alan Rickman is on screen.

Boydy
30-09-2015, 08:36 PM
Most of this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/quotes

DickButkis
30-09-2015, 09:00 PM
I think its blasphemous that Con Air hasn't been mentioned.

Lewis
17-10-2015, 08:35 PM
The Independence has just gone down, but Ben Affleck is NOT FUCKING DONE YET.

Lewis
17-10-2015, 08:40 PM
'You and your men are the biggest mistake in the history of NASA.'
':harold:'

leedsrevolution
17-10-2015, 08:44 PM
Click made me cry.

Lewis
17-10-2015, 09:00 PM
Ben Affleck has just rolled up, and I'm marking out.

Yevrah
17-10-2015, 09:13 PM
Marking out?

I think it's time for a rewatch of this bad boy.

Lewis
17-10-2015, 09:18 PM
In wrestling terminology a 'mark' is somebody who thinks it's real. To 'mark out' is to get right into it like somebody who isn't an adult who should know better.

Lewis
17-10-2015, 09:21 PM
He's just shaken her hand. Ben Affleck giving him the 'Keep walking, mate' eyes as he does.

Yevrah
21-10-2015, 10:34 PM
It's on Sky. Again. :cool:

Pepe
21-10-2015, 10:40 PM
As I was reading through this thread I couldn't think of a single one, but then towards the end it dawned on me: My favorite cheesy movie is Maverick.

Yevrah
21-10-2015, 10:47 PM
With Sir Mel Gibson?

I haven't seen that for years.

Pepe
21-10-2015, 10:49 PM
With Sir Mel Gibson?

I haven't seen that for years.

Indeed.

Haven't watched it in ages either. I fear watching it again and realizing it is not as good as I think it is.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 01:19 AM
I have been drilling holes in the earth for 30 years. And I have never, NEVER missed a depth that I have aimed for. And by God, I am not gonna miss this one, I will make 800 feet.

The gift that keeps on giving....

Lewis
27-10-2015, 01:20 AM
He fucking does as well. :cool:

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 01:22 AM
I'm now thinking, is it Bruce Willis' best role?

Die Hard? Pulp Fiction? What else are we looking at?

Lewis
27-10-2015, 01:24 AM
12 Monkeys is his best performance, but that's not what you're asking. The answer is yes.

SvN
27-10-2015, 01:24 AM
You're going way over the top.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 01:32 AM
12 Monkeys. I'd forgotten that.

Good call.

The way he pronounces 800 feet though. :drool:

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 01:34 AM
You're going way over the top.

I'm not sure how. As Lewis said, it's the best disaster movie ever made.

SvN
27-10-2015, 01:34 AM
His best role is obviously Die Hard. His best performance is either 12 Monkeys or Sixth Sense.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 01:37 AM
I thought of Sixth Sense, but it's impossible to judge anything in that film objectively due to the money shot being so good.

12 Monkeys I'll give you.

SvN
27-10-2015, 01:39 AM
Disaster films better than Armageddon

The Poseidon Adventure
Apollo 13
Contagion
The Impossible



Armageddon is on part with the likes of Titanic and Independence Day. It's alright, but it's far from brilliant.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 01:45 AM
I haven't seen The Poseidon Adventure, but there's not a chance the other 3 are better than Armageddon.

SvN
27-10-2015, 01:54 AM
I suspect you're romanticising it a bit.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 01:58 AM
I suspect you're reeling off IMDB ratings....

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:00 AM
Are you kidding?

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 02:06 AM
No.

The Poseidon Adventure - 7.1
Apollo 13 - 7.6
Contagion - 6.7
The Impossible - 7.6

Armageddon - 6.6

:sherlock:

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:08 AM
Conclusive evidence that I'm unable to form an opinion after watching a film. I only threw Contagion in there to make it look less obvious.

Apollo 13 in particular blows Armageddon away.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 02:10 AM
Well I suspected it and when I checked, the ratings backed it up. :sorry:

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:11 AM
Wait you actually are serious :harold:

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 02:12 AM
Apollo 13 doesn't work as anyone who's paid any attention to, well, life, knows the outcome before they go in. Thus defeating the point of a disaster movie.

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:12 AM
Apollo 13 doesn't work as anyone who's paid any attention to, well, life, knows the outcome before they go in. Thus defeating the point of a disaster movie.

That only counts if you watch a film for the sole purpose of wanting to find out how it ends. Anyone who knows films knew the ending of Armageddon, Independence Day, Twister, etc before the opening credits were over.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 02:14 AM
Wait you actually are serious :harold:

Yeah I am.

Apollo 13 for the reasons above, The Impossible because of the fucking annoying kids and the way it focuses on a family of rich holiday makers (in what was a debilitating event for the local populace) and Contagion because it's bang average.

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:15 AM
It's fine that you think Armageddon is better. That's your opinion.

It's ridiculous that you seem to think I'm disagreeing with you based on IMDB ratings.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 02:16 AM
That only counts if you watch a film for the sole purpose of wanting to find out how it ends. Anyone who knows films knew the ending of Armageddon, Independence Day, Twister, etc before the opening credits were over.

How would anyone have known that Bruce Willis would die before that happened?

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:17 AM
How would anyone have known that Bruce Willis would die before that happened?

I was more referring to the fact that "it all ends up alright in the end".

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 02:18 AM
It's fine that you think Armageddon is better. That's your opinion.

It's ridiculous that you seem to think I'm disagreeing with you based on IMDB ratings.

I don't really, it was just a quite glorious bit of happenstance that the ratings colluded with my (jokey) suspicion and it went from there. Contagion being 0.1 better was beautiful in that sense.

Yevrah
27-10-2015, 02:19 AM
I was more referring to the fact that "it all ends up alright in the end".

Well that's a given for any disaster movie, even 2012 (which was obviously dogshit) where the premise was that there's a world ending event.

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:20 AM
In that case, I'm not sure why that's such a negative against Apollo 13. I doubt most people knew the intricate details of what went wrong and how they solved it.

Byron
27-10-2015, 06:30 AM
I won't have anything bad said against The Poseidon Adventure. Incredible movie and easily my favorite disaster movie.

Pepe
27-10-2015, 12:51 PM
Titanic is quite excellent.

Lewis
27-10-2015, 01:52 PM
There is a case for Apollo 13 being a better film than Armageddon, but in what way is it a disaster movie? Three high-skilled, well-prepared lives are at stake. The point is that 'innocent' people get caught up in it, otherwise Reservoir Dogs is one.

SvN
27-10-2015, 02:10 PM
That's a fair point. I suppose Gravity would also be a disaster movie if Apollo 13 is, and I'd never consider it to be.

ItalAussie
28-10-2015, 12:32 AM
There is a case for Apollo 13 being a better film than Armageddon, but in what way is it a disaster movie? Three high-skilled, well-prepared lives are at stake. The point is that 'innocent' people get caught up in it, otherwise Reservoir Dogs is one.
That's actually a really good point. It does feel like it should be considered a disaster movie, but it's hard to quantify precisely why when you lay it out like that.

Lewis
26-09-2022, 11:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RA8Tfa6Sck

This seemed like the most appropriate thread. NASA is about to slam the DART (Double Asteroid Redirection Test) into an asteroid to see if it can be knocked out of orbit.

Yevrah
26-09-2022, 11:13 PM
I watched Independence Day the other night, it's still brilliant.

Pepe
26-09-2022, 11:17 PM
Watch it deflect right into us now.

hfswjyr
29-09-2022, 10:04 AM
Where's Bruce? Is he ready?

SvN
29-09-2022, 11:03 AM
It's funny looking back that 7 years ago I actually had the energy to engage Yev.

Dave.
29-09-2022, 01:46 PM
Would certain James Bond films be classed as cheesy? Diamonds Are Forever? Most of the Roger Moore ones? Die Another Day?

Kikó
29-09-2022, 02:23 PM
I can't believe this board is at least 7 years old. Also rip Henry and John.

Giggles
29-09-2022, 03:04 PM
I can't believe this board is at least 7 years old. Also rip Henry and John.

Don’t leave Harold out.