Formula 1 2018 - No Women Edition

[Disco]

https://i.imgur.com/PxDTiDi.png

Grid Penalties: The Sport returns to our screens next month, here's all the shit you have to memorise to enjoy it correctly. But who will win, and how will Ferrari hand it to them?


Teams & Drivers:

Mercedes (Mercedes)
- Lewis Hamilton (c)
- Valtteri Bottas

Ferrari (Ferrari)
- Sebastian Vettel
- Kimi Raikkonen

Red Bull (Renault)
- Daniel Ricciardo
- Max Verstappen

Force India (Mercedes)
- Sergio Perez
- Esteban Ocon

Williams (Mercedes)
- Lance Stroll
- Sergey Sirotkin

Renault (Renault)
- Nico Hulkenberg
- Carlos Sainz

Toro Rosso (Honda)
- Pierre Gasly
- Brendon Hartley

Haas (Ferrari)
- Romain Grosjean
- Kevin Magnussen

McLaren (Renault)
- Fernando Alonso
- Stoffel Vandoorne

Sauber (Ferrari)
- Marcus Ericsson
Charles Leclerc


Race Schedule:

25 March - Melbourne, Australia
8 April - Sakhir, Bahrain
15 April - Shanghai, China
29 April - Baku, Azerbaijan
13 May - Barcelona, Spain
27 May - Monaco, Monaco
10 June - Montreal, Canada
24 June - Le Castellet, France
1 July - Spielberg, Austria
8 July - Silverstone, Great Britain
22 July - Hockenheim, Germany
29 July - Budapest, Hungary
26 August - Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
2 September - Monza, Italy
16 September - Singapore, Singapore
30 September - Sochi, Russia
7 October - Suzuka, Japan
21 October - Austin, USA
28 October - Mexico City, Mexico
11 November - Sao Paulo, Brazil
25 November - Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi


Liveries:

Mercedes

https://i.imgur.com/7XwzgZg.jpg


Ferrari

https://i.imgur.com/ICWWY2q.jpg


Red Bull

https://i.imgur.com/69RuhWN.png


Force India

https://i.imgur.com/0HMvPyl.jpg


Williams

https://i.imgur.com/pQOOiVL.png


Renault

https://i.imgur.com/n8P8zm1.png


Toro Rosso

https://i.imgur.com/5wILBK1.png


Haas

https://i.imgur.com/3PZlX0J.png


McLaren

https://i.imgur.com/f1DTASW.png


Sauber

https://i.imgur.com/Alwo587.png

[Giggles]

Nice job, but your pictures don't work.

[Disco]

Yes they do.

[Giggles]

I'm getting grey rectangles for all except Mansell. Might be an ISP thing blocking the site from my end.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Three engines, unlucky Red Bull.

Predictions:
Hamilton easy title (maybe his last, he'll ceebs it in the end)
Ocon to smash 'Checo' and get the Merc drive
Alonso to come implausibly high in the championship (let's say 5th) and win Le Mans
Williams to waste a probably decent car with shit drivers
Leclerc to bodybag Ericsson
Kimi to have a mare and get dropped for Luca Badoer

[Giggles]

What happens after the 3 engines? Public flogging and disqualification?

[Disco]

No no, a blanket of grey rectangles is what you should (and will) be seeing.

[Baz]

Don't forget the 1PM races now start at 2PM.

[Giggles]

Then they're not the 1PM races.

[Disco]

:D

[Shindig]

McLaren Renault sounds like a match made in an unlicensed videogame.

[Jimmy Floyd]

As long as it's not as shit as McLaren Peugeot from 1994 they'll be alright.

[Pleb]

What's up with the 2pm starts then? :sherlock:

[Disco]

You have to love that photo selection.

https://i.imgur.com/fc7ZwPY.jpg

[Jimmy Floyd]

Is this the moment when sportscars finally realises that it is a boring load of old toss? Only time will tell.

[Disco]

They're the ultimate proof that motorsport needs to be relevant for manufacturers (ie shut about quiet engines you dickheads) because nobody is doing WEC for the publicity or viewing figures.

[Lewis]

The Toyotas blowing up at Le Mans again would be the lollest thing in motorsport since... Blank. Probably when they got busted with that cheat turbo in rally.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It would be better if they binned off the prototypes and made some sort of super GT formula. I'm amazed even Toyota are fussed about running LMP1s.

[Disco]

Isn't that basically touring cars?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I mean more like the things that tool around in the 3rd highest class at Le Mans.

[Disco]

The baffle paint job. :happycry:

https://i.imgur.com/jFc0lkA.png

[Gray Fox]

I'm glad they've done that. There was far too much colour on the previous one.

[Disco]

It's not the real livery, it's designed to stop other teams copying parts of the design.

[Giggles]

It should be the real one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Cars with scramble paint jobs tend to be absolute dogs, I find.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Sauber-Alfa looks nice, which I suppose was inevitable.

[Shindig]

It almost looks like a Super Agurri which is all I can hope for.

[Disco]

McLaren are progressing in their quest to become Minardi by the looks of their new car.

Opening post is updated with pics of the released cars.

[Pepe]

Wtf is that McLaren? :D

[Gray Fox]

It looks a different colour in every picture I see.

They at least have to be commended for not doing the boring white/black/silver crap the rest of the field seem to have done.

[Disco]

I'm pleased that the numbers (and I think there will be names/initials too) are more prominent this year, but equally displeased with all the shit everyone seems to be dumping onto the sidepods. Reminds me of this horrible thing:

https://i.imgur.com/K8VFcBI.png

[Pleb]

Is this the nineties again?

[Serj]

I like the new McLaren. I'd probably have preferred a slightly darker hue of orange, but it's still one of the better liveries of the last couple of years.

https://i.imgur.com/GOUhEmn.jpg

:drool:

[-james-]

God the 'halo' is awful. There won't ever be an attractive F1 car again if they stick about.

[Disco]

It doesn't look great but I struggle to muster much of an argument against them on looks alone.

[Giggles]

I didn't even notice it on that car til it was mentioned. It's fine.

[Lewis]

It doesn't look like it could stand up to the sort of impacts that you might want protection there for, such as slamming into the bottom of a tractor at eighty miles an hour, so what is the case for it?

[Disco]

I didn't even notice it on that car til it was mentioned. It's fine.

For something which should be so obvious it's amazing how many pictures I look at and don't even notice it.

[Giggles]

It doesn't look like it could stand up to the sort of impacts that you might want protection there for, such as slamming into the bottom of a tractor at eighty miles an hour, so what is the case for it?

Things like what happened Massa I presume.

[Lewis]

Was that the spring? A partial windscreen would make more sense for that sort of thing.

[Disco]

It's a bit odd, it seems to be a protection against problems in other formula. Henry Surtees (wheel) and Justin Wilson (discarded big mac presumably) were both killed by being lumped in the head by something. But you're not wrong, it wouldn't have helped Massa or Senna or any of the other people (mainly marshalls) who've been hit by stuff recently.

[Lewis]

I like those little scales on the McLaren. I bet they provide all sorts of MARGINAL GAINS to be rendered irrelevant by shite internals.

[Shindig]

BBC seemed to make a big deal out the car being orange. Ignoring the fact it was orange last year.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If the Renault goes then I'd expect podiums for McLaren. There's no intrinsic reason, Adrian Newey aside, why they should have a worse package than the Red Bull.

[Giggles]

Podiums is severely pushing it.

[Disco]

If the Renault goes then I'd expect podiums for McLaren. There's no intrinsic reason, Adrian Newey aside, why they should have a worse package than the Red Bull.

The thought of Alonso stuffing it up some Red Bulls is :drool:

How times change.

[Magic]

WSBK Philip Island in the AM on Sat. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

The thought of Alonso stuffing it up some Red Bulls is :drool:

How times change.

He is such a great driver that if he can qualify it even top 8 regularly he will surely troll his way to podiums.

[Pepe]

They should just go for a cockpit and be done with it.

[Magic]

Susie Wolff leaked.

http://thefappeningblog.com/susie-wolff-leaked-the-fappening-10-photos/

[phonics]

Those are very dull photos of a not particularly attractive woman.

[Shindig]

Guys, quick straw poll: Do you have any cock shots on your phone? Because it feels like only women do this. There's probably a site for it, mind.

[John]

Those are very dull photos of a not particularly attractive woman.

Neither of those things matter. It's the fact she didn't want him seeing them that excites the Magics of the world.

[Disco]

Those are very dull photos of a not particularly attractive woman.

For some reason I read this in Toto's voice.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Toto probably leaked them himself to MIND GAMES Christian Horner.

[Gray Fox]

Terror Toto will be out in force now.

[Giggles]

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[Magic]

WSBK was great second race. First was ok and same as last year.

[Disco]

WSBK was great second race. First was ok and same as last year.

Will I already be able to tell who's going to win the lot (again).

[Disco]

He is such a great driver that if he can qualify it even top 8 regularly he will surely troll his way to podiums.

It hasn't started brilliantly.

https://i.imgur.com/UuOlmdy.png

[Magic]

Will I already be able to tell who's going to win the lot (again).

It'll be one of the Ducatis or Rea.

[phonics]

968517670483169286

Can you tell the whole things not run by one one-million-year-old man now?

[-james-]

UK F1 fans absolutely shafted.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We really are, looking at that.

[phonics]

Can I ask why? When it says select territories I presumed that meant 'not where the coverage/money' is good for us

[Disco]

I assume it'll run alongside existing tv deals, they'd be mad to move the sport even further away from mass viewers, there's precious little sponsorship as it is.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not launching in the UK as yet. I read not until 2025 somewhere.

Sky will demand exclusivity.

[Pleb]

Isn't the sport going to the paywall from next year or have I read that wrong?

[Magic]

Hahaha fuck that.

[Shindig]

I'll probably just watch the highlights on youtube. Their channel's decent for that kinda stuff. I wonder who owns rights to the archive?

[niko_cee]

What are you all talking about? Is there something in the phonics post I'm not seeing?

[Jimmy Floyd]

In certain markets (most of Europe, but not us) you'll be able to pay whatever a month and get F1 sessions etc etc streamed on the new corporate platform. We meanwhile will have to continue forking out for Sky.

[Disco]

Or just streaming it.

[Pepe]

Can't you just use a VPN?

[John]

You'd imagine they'll be wise to someone appearing to be in Greece and paying with a British bank account.

[niko_cee]

I've only just noticed how bad all of that new aero shit around the sidepods looks, McLaren's little fins aside.

[Pepe]

You'd imagine they'll be wise to someone appearing to be in Greece and paying with a British bank account.

Works for me with Eurosport.

[phonics]

You'd imagine they'll be wise to someone appearing to be in Greece and paying with a British bank account.

lol

[-james-]

There's stuff like Fox Sports' streaming service and EFL's 3pm streams for fans abroad which you can get access to in the UK by paying with your debit card and using a VPN. They're happy to take your money and turn a blind eye.

Anyone who is actually bothered about restricting based on location will know to ask for an address in the right country. I'd imagine this lot will fall into that group.

[Pepe]

This is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr4LG_JF_ec

Screw F1. :drool:

[Lewis]

Off-road racing suspension is interesting. Those Baja 1000 cars should fall to bits in minutes, and yet somehow they don't.

[Shindig]

Okay, I wasn't expecting that ending.

[Pepe]

Off-road racing suspension is interesting. Those Baja 1000 cars should fall to bits in minutes, and yet somehow they don't.

Underbody cams are always interesting to watch. Things just bouncing around, it really is impressive that they don't break. Even WRC cars take quite the beating.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The grid looks quite fun. Raikkonen on the front row ahead of Seb, Haas inexplicably quick (their chassis must be amazing), Renault decent with two decent drivers, McLaren looking alright, Williams nowhere and Sirotkin put on the back row by whatever classic fire engines Sauber are using as their cars this year.

I reckon this year will be full of Fernando getting great starts, parking it in about 4th and lolling at everyone seething behind him for the rest of the race.

[Disco]

Just watching it now, the halo looks particularly gopping outside of publicity shots but I will forgive all if they write drivers names on it so we can actually tell the cars apart.

The Haas is fast because they've basically 3d printed last years Ferrari, they will be allowed to beat the midfield teams and no more. Williams have terrible drivers and will be appropriately terrible and I will lol my dick clean off if Kimi can regularly beat Vettel before swanning off at the end of the year. Alonso resurrecting the Trulli train would be epic, I'm as interested in watching him shitting out 5th places as I am in seeing who wins.

[Magic]

This is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr4LG_JF_ec

Screw F1. :drool:

Jesus Christ those jumps were totally unexpected. :D

[Magic]

There's stuff like Fox Sports' streaming service and EFL's 3pm streams for fans abroad which you can get access to in the UK by paying with your debit card and using a VPN. They're happy to take your money and turn a blind eye.

Anyone who is actually bothered about restricting based on location will know to ask for an address in the right country. I'd imagine this lot will fall into that group.

The EFL based ones require a foreign bank account.

[Disco]

He's been on pole in Melbourne forever but that gap, even in qualy, has to be concerning for the rest of the field. I expect Ferrari to be much closer tomorrow, should be a good race.

[-james-]

The EFL based ones require a foreign bank account.



Really? I know someone who uses it in the UK and he's the last person I'd expect to have a foreign bank account.

[Giggles]

That Supertrucks is fucking amazing.

[Disco]

Any formula that lets you corner on one less wheel than you sensibly should be gets thumbs up from me. Do they still do lorry racing? Stuff like that and sidecar racing never seems to be on anywhere.

[Magic]

Really? I know someone who uses it in the UK and he's the last person I'd expect to have a foreign bank account.

Leeds do their own so is ok but all EFL streamers don't. Some clubs might be the same as us.

[Pepe]

Sidecar racing, now those are some lads with balls.

[Shindig]

Especially the TT lads. Imagine riding passenger on that knowing that one wrong move could see you bounce off a wall dead.

[Ian]

Yeah, I always like those TT races, climbing about between the sidecar and the bike and whatever.

Mad bastards.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The tragedy with these halos is that the cars are otherwise looking pretty swish. The Merc looks beautiful.

[Shindig]

Qatar's MotoGP races caught up. Good weekend with a great MotoGP scrap. It really makes the grid look fantastic. It's going to be weird seeing Mir and Morbidelli battle in the midfield in their new classes.

[Disco]

Alonso resurrecting the Trulli train would be epic, I'm as interested in watching him shitting out 5th places as I am in seeing who wins.

Overslept and missed most of this. Alonso :cool:

[SincereTheRebel]

MISSed it all. Looking for a rerun

[Jimmy Floyd]

I reckon this year will be full of Fernando getting great starts, parking it in about 4th and lolling at everyone seething behind him for the rest of the race.

:drool:

[SincereTheRebel]

Vette needs to chill with that new homeless box trim he has.

[Giggles]

Why is Alonso so loved now after being a hate figure for so long? Is it just the switch of team or did I miss something else?

[SincereTheRebel]

His car has been shit since he left ferrari. He gets a lot of sympathy now given he is probably still, a top 3 driver.

[niko_cee]

Obviously parking one of the mini-Ferrari's didn't get the job done, so they had to kill both for the stewards to get the message.

Should really give the 25 points to the virtual safety car.

[Giggles]

:D


http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/023/946/lemon.jpg

[niko_cee]

Gunter on the pit wall was definitely the highlight.

Has it been determined what the Haas pit crew were actually up to yet?

[Shindig]

Why is Alonso so loved now after being a hate figure for so long? Is it just the switch of team or did I miss something else?

Hungary 2007 - compromised Lewis' lap time by holding the car for ages as they stacked up.
Singapore 2008 - benefited directly from crashgate.

I've never hated the guy, though. He took it to Schumacher in a way that nobody could and has outdriven some seriously underwhelming cars. In his fight with Lewis, I backed the guy.

[Disco]

Why is Alonso so loved now after being a hate figure for so long? Is it just the switch of team or did I miss something else?

His behaviour at McLaren was deplorable (you don't cross Ron Dennis and get away with it) and, even though he wouldn't have known anything about it, the crashgate thing tarnished his reputation somewhat. He was also associated with Flavio Briatore for a lot of his career which is never a good idea if you want people to like you, neither is going to drive for the evil empire and making poor Felipe move over for you every other lap.

Throughout it all he's still been one of the best two (or three if we're being kind to Vettel) drivers in the world, dragged utter turds into decent finishes, and been solid gold entertainment on the radio for three years.

[-james-]

Why has he spent so long driving around in a shit car? I presume the good teams all have other/younger targets, and a combination of McLaren paying him more than the rest and assuring him they'll stop being shit?

Has there ever been another widely considered great of the sport that has spent this many good racing years in a bucket?

[Jimmy Floyd]

McLaren should be better than they have been, and he is probably a prick to work with, so it's a combination of things. There aren't that many good seats that come up.

[Disco]

He's been a victim of both circumstance and karma. Of the tops teams he could have gone to; one he'd just left and had now employed a guy who was never going to allow someone as good as Alonso into the team. Another team had Hamilton in it, and while you could argue that they've almost certainly gotten over 2007 by now why would you take the risk? The last option have a driver program they're committed to for the next 1000 years. I suppose he could have gone for a better midfield team but none of them are going anywhere fast so the best bet was to stay with the team who stand a chance of returning to the front.

[Magic]

WorldSBK and SSP were awesome. Shindig

[Shindig]

McLaren should be better than they have been, and he is probably a prick to work with, so it's a combination of things. There aren't that many good seats that come up.

Yup. He's been there and done the Ferrari seat and Red Bull promote their own. Mercedes won't bring someone in of Alonso's ability whilst Hamilton's still active. Realistically, there's two potential championship winning cars and he's frozen out of both of them. I can't remember an F1 season that wasn't a two-horse race.

[SincereTheRebel]

The webber, alonso and someone else season was a three horse race until vettel snatched it at the last grand prix.

[Shindig]

Ah, 2010. That was two Red Bulls and a Ferrari.

[Disco]

The year when Webber broke his arm and never told anyone.

[Shindig]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/9260822.stm

Fuck. This must've passed me by. He should've been champion. :( Stupid German with his conversational Italian phrase book.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The telling Christian Horner quotes are pretty lol.

[Disco]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/43531800

TTH ahead of the curve yet again.

[phonics]

Genuinely thought this one was a Pepsi sponsorship deal before reading the blurb:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/14BAA/production/_100560948_1980ensign.jpg

Throw in a small wave where the blue and white lines meet around the driver area and you'd be onto millions of dollars.

[Disco]

They missed the best ones too the noobs.

[Shindig]

I liked last year's Sauber. It's a pity it hinges on your main sponsor having a cool colour scheme.

[Giggles]

The Minardi for me.

[Lewis]

The Lotus 81 in that Essex Petroleum livery. That short-lived conman convention also spawned the Essex Turbo which is mega cool.

[Disco]

I always liked the Camel Lotus, the one that ate Johnny Herberts' legs.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They missed the best ones too the noobs.

I was always a big fan of the Forti Corse. Slowest, most fucking useless car ever to go anywhere near an F1 track but a real beaut.

https://i.redd.it/d42ci94nr25y.jpg

[Disco]

Wasted on Pedro Diniz.

[Jimmy Floyd]

And Andrea Montermini, who achieved the remarkable and cruelly overlooked distinction of driving the Forti, the Simtek AND the Pacific in just 20 starts.

[Shindig]

Found myself diving down a rabbit hole of abandoned tracks. Reims' preserved grandstand looks amazing. Avus has a similar grandstand but the DTM lot ditched that in 1999.

[Gray Fox]

Liberty are looking at making qualifying a sprint race on Saturday morning, to determine your position for the actual race on Sunday.

I can't be the only one who thinks this is stupid?

http://www.planetf1.com/news/formula-1-considering-sprint-race-for-qualifying/

[SincereTheRebel]

Should just reverse the grid from the previous race results.

[Giggles]

Should just reverse the grid from the previous race results.

Ineptitude shouldn't be rewarded. You'd have teams purposely losing places as a race neared the finish too, a battl to see who can go slower.

[SincereTheRebel]

I dont know what ineptitude means and im too lazy to google so im going to take it as you being offensive. Piss off.

[Gray Fox]

He's saying you shouldn't be rewarded for being shite.

[Giggles]

I dont know what ineptitude means and im too lazy to google so im going to take it as you being offensive. Piss off.

Shitness.

[Shindig]

Why don't they just superpole it? The order being determined by FP3 times.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I love how Liberty seem to think the way to make F1 more popular is to ape the shit formats of dreadful spec formulas which have about 1/100 of F1's popularity.

[Disco]

It's nibbling at the edges, the real news will be what the new Concord agreement will be for 2021. That will establish how attractive the sport will be for manufacturers and teams therefore deciding how successful it will be.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The only way they're going to make any progress is by boshing Ferrari (and Mercedes, but mainly Ferrari) with a punitive spending cap and aim for a 13-14 team franchise with, say, 6 manufacturers and 7-8 privateers. That seems to be quite far away as Christ knows how useless Ferrari would be on any sort of level playing field. Alfa Romeo-esque.

Still, a sprint race in a formula with sparse overtaking? Has anyone thought this through?

[Disco]

Ferrari will lose their advantage (with which they've won nothing for a decade) and there will be the beginnings of cost restrictions, possibly in the form of engine regs that will open the field to more people because that's where the r&d money can safely be spent. More engines means more scope for customer teams and a bigger more varied field which is the only way the sport can go if it doesn't want to be completely irrelevant in another 15-20 years.

[Lewis]

No movable aerodynamic bullshit, a welcome return for tobacco sponsorship, and maybe a thirty miles an hour crash test to appease the whingers. Beyond that lads fill your helmets.

[Shindig]

Someone should move into Caterham's old joint. It's still in decent shape.

[Jimmy Floyd]

HRT's Madrid HQ surely vacant and ripe for a Seat works team or something. Alonso GP.

[Disco]

Guy Ligier probably had some good stuff in his basement.

[Jimmy Floyd]

God bless Guy Ligier, the most under the radar corrupt bastard in history.

[Lewis]

The top ten Formula 1 spivs would be some countdown.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bernie and Colin Chapman fight it out for 1 and 2 in that list, but further down you'd have legends like John Cooper, and in more modern times Briatore and Eddie Jordan.

My personal favourite though is the short lived Jean-Pierre Van Rossem, who had a go at F1 in between pretending there was a magic money computer behind a locked door in his office, and massively scamming the King of Belgium.

[Lewis]

There might have been some competition at the top at one point, but Bernie bribing his way out of that bribery trial was his masterpiece.

[Shindig]

Arse. The torrent site I use for MotoGP is down. Damn it, Dorna. £10 a month or nothing.

[Disco]

Yup, I've been hoping it was going to magically re-appear but it doesn't look like it. You can stream them live but no-one seems to be uploading them anywhere. Oh well.

[Lewis]

I saw that the upcoming formula wants (in the BBC's words) 'cheaper, simpler, louder engines, while remaining road-relevant and hybrid, but making F1 more attractive for new entrants'. Doesn't every bit of that cancel the other bits out?

[Shindig]

Yup, I've been hoping it was going to magically re-appear but it doesn't look like it. You can stream them live but no-one seems to be uploading them anywhere. Oh well.

I guess that leaves youtube and adverts every four minutes that fund nerve agents.

[Giggles]

When's the F1 qualifying?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nowish.

[Giggles]

So I see. Didn't think 4 would have it on two weeks in a row.

[Giggles]

Verstappen :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Alonso fuming on the radio just as the Honda plonks itself in P6, god this is good.

[John]

Yup, I've been hoping it was going to magically re-appear but it doesn't look like it. You can stream them live but no-one seems to be uploading them anywhere. Oh well.

Fairly sure I have an invite for a torrent site that gets them uploaded. I'll check next time I'm on it.

[Giggles]

Is 16:10 the right time for the start today?

[Shindig]

Yep. An hour to go.

[Gray Fox]

Ferrari will probably instruct Kimi to let Vettel go early, but it should be alright after that. If Lewis doesn't jump 6 positions in the first lap that is.

[Giggles]

Raikkonen - Bottas - Vettel by the end of lap 1.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Two things I despise about the Liberty era:

1. The massively cringey post race interviews aimed at people with a mental age of four.
2. The massively cringey opening titles. Please go back to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgiBkydMW8k
) immediately.

[Giggles]

I miss that opening riff.

[Gray Fox]

Do C4 even use The Chain?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Max Verstappen's missus has properly won the lottery of life.

Come on Kimi, balls it up for everyone.

[Disco]

Did Alonso just do Hamilton there?

( :drool: )

[Jimmy Floyd]

Taxi for Horner.

I love Max but he's a fucking moron.

[Gray Fox]

Max is an idiot.

[Gray Fox]

What happened to Danny Ric?

[Giggles]

Hamilton coming out unscathed :moop:

[Giggles]

What happened to Danny Ric?

Looks like there wasn't a camera on him for it but looks like mechanical failure.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's just done three in one corner there as well.

Pierre Gasly properly chancing it, fair play.

[Disco]

Back to the soft drinks lads.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Please let this work.

[Gray Fox]

Mercedes could well have played a blinder here.

Surely both Ferraris will either be stopping again, or on ice skates at the end?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Ferrari will pit again, I just dunno if the mediums will last long enough for the Mercs to be in position to challenge.

[Disco]

If they are they may just be sitting ducks in the last few laps.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I mean, subject to the guy being OK, that is fucking hilarious. They should give up and go home.

[Gray Fox]

That's a broken leg at the least.

[Disco]

£100m a year.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They managed to fuck up in at least two different ways. Mental.

[Disco]

Bottas brake issue incoming. Outside chance it will be he needs to 'save the power unit'.

[John Arne]

Bottas really is useless.

[Gray Fox]

Bottas just isn't up to it, is he?

They'll probably end up swapping them at the end.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bottas is doing a fine job. It just depends on whether Vettel can eke them out.

[Gray Fox]

What does Lewis keep moaning about? They've told him he's doing what he needs to. What more does he want?

[Jimmy Floyd]

That lock up cost him, a quarter of a second down when he would have then had two DRS stabs.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, Bottas stuffed that up. Really should have had him.

[Giggles]

Didn't watch after but have Honda finally nailed it or are McLaren just completely inept?

[Gray Fox]

I refer to my previous point about Bottas.

Lol at Honda taking 2 races to better their entire McLaren rein with an actual good team.

[Disco]

Gasly drove really well but he also got lucky with track position and people pitting around him not thinking he would be a threat. Plus of course three cars retired that would have finished ahead of him.

Still, hell of a result for them.

[Shindig]

God, I hate Vettel. I bet he goes around to everyone at Maranello and spouts phrase book Italian at everyone when he walks in. With a smug, twattish grin whilst everyone seethes.

[SincereTheRebel]

Watching random F1 videos and came across two on-board laps which look bonkers


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXfAHHNSFo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Lrg-PCNfA

[Jimmy Floyd]

That Monaco lap is superb. Massenet corner must be one of the most underrated corners on the calendar, takes balls of steel to keep it going through there.

[SincereTheRebel]

It never clicked with me that they had gear stick which required you to take your hand off the steering wheel to change it

[Magic]

Oh my Lord did anyone watch the Moto GP? Amazing and insane.

[Clunge]

Fucks' sake Valtteri. Should have just banzai'd it. Vettel would still have finished ahead of HAM if he'd ducked it.

[Giggles]

That Ferrari lollipop man will have to do some sweet talking to keep his job.

[Gray Fox]

Double leg fracture for the mechanic. Seriously nasty.

[Shindig]

Guys, they should just bring lollipops and pit boards back. The radios and traffic lights are bollocks.

[SincereTheRebel]

F1 trivia?


Drivers with most race starts with a single engine manafacture

[Disco]

Schumacher - Ferrari
Alonso - Renault
Hamilton - Mercedes

[SincereTheRebel]

Schumacher - Ferrari
Alonso - Renault
Hamilton - Mercedes

Top 10 names in looking for. Alonso is down in 17th with 107

[Disco]

I thought Alonso would be a shoe in.

Massa - Ferrari
Button - Honda
Coulthard - Mercedes

[SincereTheRebel]

I thought Alonso would be a shoe in.

Massa - Ferrari
Button - Honda
Coulthard - Mercedes

five left

[Dave.]

Hakkinen - Mercedes?

[Dave.]

And maybe Barrichello for Ferrari?

[SincereTheRebel]

Hakkinen - Mercedes?

113


And maybe Barrichello for Ferrari?

102

The person in 10th place has 129 starts with the engine.

[Gray Fox]

Mark Webber?

[Disco]

Kimi, two stints with Ferrari and one with Sauber who had Ferrari engines.

[SincereTheRebel]

Mark Webber?

10th place with 129


Kimi, two stints with Ferrari and one with Sauber who had Ferrari engines.

149

Three names left. One from this era and two from the 1970s and 1980s

[Dave.]

Rosberg for Mercedes?

[SincereTheRebel]

Rosberg for Mercedes?

yeah

[niko_cee]

Eddie Irvine at Ferrari?

[SincereTheRebel]

Eddie Irvine at Ferrari?

No. He was the 90s. Missing men are from 70s and 80s. Both drove with the same engine.

[Disco]

Given how prevalent they were I reckon there's a Cosworth in there somewhere. Stewart? Fittipaldi?

Jesus, I forgot that Rosberg even existed.

[SincereTheRebel]

Given how prevalent they were I reckon there's a Cosworth in there somewhere. Stewart? Fittipaldi?

Jesus, I forgot that Rosberg even existed.



yeah ford cosworth is the engine. One left now.

Rosberg pulled the sucker move and quit as soon as he reached the mountain top while others champions stayed around and had the hunger for more.

[Disco]

Lafitte? At Ligier for years, could be in there.

[SincereTheRebel]

Lafitte? At Ligier for years, could be in there.

Not him.

[Disco]

I'm now down to guessing people who made loads of starts.

Trulli
Patrese

Although I would have said both moved around too much.

[SincereTheRebel]

I'm now down to guessing people who made loads of starts.

Trulli
Patrese

Although I would have said both moved around too much.

Both wrong. Missing man is French. Finished on the podium three times. Debut in 1971 in Italy and last race was in 1983. He drove for numerous teams including Lotus and Tyrrell

[Disco]

Jarier, how on earth has he managed that?

[Giggles]

This could go in the trivia thread.

[Pleb]

Button for Renault/Honda?

Scratch that. How about Niki Lauda for McClaren?

[SincereTheRebel]

Jarier, how on earth has he managed that?


This could go in the trivia thread.

I wasn't sure how if it would gain traction over there given its always about the ball.


Button for Renault/Honda?

Scratch that. How about Niki Lauda for McClaren?

Button is correct but was already mentioned.

210 - Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes
191 - Felipe Massa - Ferrari
179 - Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
150 - David Coulthard - Mercedes
149 - Kimi Räikkönen - Ferrari
143 - Emerson Fittipaldi - Ford Cosworth
142 - Jenson Button - Honda
136 - Nico Rosberg - Mercedes
129 - Jean-Pierre Jarier - Ford Cosworth
129 - Mark Webber - Renault

[Jimmy Floyd]

I wouldn't have guessed Jarier did that many races in total.

[Disco]

Back on the subject of onboard stuff, this popped up on my YT feed today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pktF3wJKfxo&list=WL&t=0s&index=14

I still can't fathom how he had enough grip to go round the outside of Wendlinger.

[Pepe]

90s F1 :******)

[SincereTheRebel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwcSaayPy7w

[Disco]

The cars from the mid-2000's must be some of the ugliest in memory; too narrow, everything too high, and surrounded by those awful grooved tyres.

Here's a classic for you Sincere, one of the greatest laps in F1 history.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii6H0MktrOg

[SincereTheRebel]

Was defending the line illegal back then? Its like the lead car had zero interest in defending the inside line.

[Gray Fox]

Verstappen :drool:

[Giggles]

After an awful slow start that turned out a very entertaining race. Riccardo with some serious overtakes. Really showing up Verstappen too.

[Shindig]

Just caught the result. Good stuff.

[Giggles]

Wolf :cool:

Also lol at Brundles near first mention on the podium was Hamilton Lewis when the cunt was nowhere to be seen on it.

[John Arne]

That last 15 laps was pretty good. As much as Verstappen was a fault for the Vettel incident... there was definitely a gap, so, for once, I don't really blame him for going for it. He just didn't manage to turn it in quick enough.

[Clunge]

Vettel is going to be super salto :D.

[Giggles]

Vettel is going to be super salto :D.

They interviewed him afterwards and he was far from it.

[Clunge]

Fair enough. I was expecting full seethe.

[Giggles]

Fair enough. I was expecting full seethe.

Vettel seemed relaxed enough and Verstappen got close to admitting he was wrong and needs to look at things. It was like an alternate reality.

[Giggles]

Vettel needs to take a long hard look at that haircut.

https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.3366861.1517249997!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not a bad day for Hamilton in the end, assuming he is indeed a title challenger as usual. Hopefully the leading cars stay as close performance-wise as they have been thus far.

Verstappen is lucky he drives in this era, in some previous eras he'd be a prime candidate for death the way he goes about things.

[Disco]

He'd have been the Villeneuve of the era, fast but with zero self control and headed for an inevitable Tuesday funeral.

[Shindig]

MotoGP Argentina's pretty good. Having to confine myself to heavily edited Youtube madness is not. :moop: I think Marquez is in serious bother for that race.

[SincereTheRebel]

3 poles for ferrari in a row. Cant remember that happening for a long time.

[Shindig]

Not even sure Massa managed that. Mercedes might just be happy to be up there with them.

[Disco]

Why are they doing Eurovision on the grid?

[SincereTheRebel]

Red bulls racing each other hard

[Lewis]

Is this considered a boring circuit (even by current standards)? It's a good advert for the city like.