[Football] Midweek Fixtures - FA Cup 4th Round Replays

[Reg]

Perhaps not worth a thread but since it'll only take a couple of minutes...

19:45 unless stated.

Tuesday
Birmingham v Huddersfield
Rochdale v Millwall
Swansea City v Notts County - 20:05 BBC One

Wednesday
Tottenham Hotspur v Newport County - BT Sport 2

Also foreign stuff including German cup. http://www.live-footballontv.com

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A reminder of the cup draw (televised=bold):
1 Sheffield Wednesday v Notts County or Swansea City (BT Sport)
2 West Bromwich Albion v Southampton
3 Chelsea v Hull City (BT Sport)
4 Leicester City v Sheffield United
5 Huddersfield Town or Birmingham v Manchester United (BT Sport)
6 Millwall or Rochdale v Newport County or Tottenham Hotspur (BBC)
7 Brighton and Hove Albion v Coventry City
8 Wigan Athletic v Manchester City (BBC)

[Magic]

5500 fans at Swansea, nearly a third of that is Notts County. Fucking pathetic from a PREMIER LEAGUE club.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's Swansea, on a Tuesday night everyone is shooting up or queuing outside a foodbank.

[Magic]

3,500 fans for a 4th round replay at home? That's fucking pathetic no matter which way you look at it.

[Giggles]

It's grand, it's the FA Cup.

[phonics]

The stadiums a fucking nightmare to go to and it's an arse getting a bus back. I wouldn't be going if I was down there.

[Magic]

The stadiums a fucking nightmare to go to and it's an arse getting a bus back. I wouldn't be going if I was down there.

You're a glory hunting cunt so that explains that one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

When was the last time you went to a stadium, Magic?

[phonics]

You're a glory hunting cunt so that explains that one.

You were one, your glory just turned to shit. A familiar story, I'm sure.

[John]

There can't be many football teams sponsored by a single man.

[Shindig]

Virtue-Thick might be the best double-barrel effort I've seen.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42967419

Patrice Evra is coming back to the Premiership :drool:

Sadly it's with West Ham.

[randomlegend]

Lol I'd forgotten about him booting that fan in the head.

[-james-]

I'm sad if this means he stops being the best thing on Instagram.

[Lewis]

That goal he scored for David Moyes against Bayern Munich. :drool:

I think he was at fault for all three of their goals as well. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd95bMzlaTt/?hl=en

His Monday/I LOVE THIS GAME videos are amazing.

[Magic]

When was the last time you went to a stadium, Magic?

December.

[Kikó]

Patrice Evra and Zabaleta - probably the oldest full back partnership in world football?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Valencia pair here comes to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_UEFA_Champions_League_Final

[phonics]

Pochettino, the man with the snidest, cheatiest team in the league coming out and saying 'diving is fine, it's a good thing that players cheat the refs, get over it' is not a good look for him. Prepare to see refs finally start picking up on their massive amounts of rotational fouling/fouling to stop a counter/off the ball fouls/diving etc..

I definitely wouldn't be saying it the week before a game against a team who give away loads of penalties and don't win any.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's just a classic Argie mentality. Diving/cheating/feigning injury there are seen as admirable skills and just as much part of the game as passing and shooting. Either you sink to Argie levels or you rise above it.

I maintain all deliberate fouls anywhere on the pitch should be a straight red and five match ban.

[phonics]

Michael Cox has gone full Jim.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/3374280/tactical-fouling-is-spoiling-football-time-for-the-rulemakers-to-stamp-it-out?src=com

[Kikó]

I agree with it. Start sending them off and it'll cut out pretty rapidly.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's right and I've been saying this for years and years. There should never, ever be an incentive to break the rules, especially when it involves performing an act that could hurt an opponent. It also encourages fast attacking play instead of cynical shite.

I'd also introduce penalty goals in those rarer instances where players are 'taking a red card'. We need more jeopardy, not less.

[Disco]

And be binned before Christmas because it affected a big club adversely.

[Danny]

Patrice Evra and Zabaleta - probably the oldest full back partnership in world football?

Milan 08. Cafu and Maldini. 37 and 39, both a month from birthdays, come season end

[-james-]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11240200/england-launch-new-2018-home-and-away-kits-ahead-of-world-cup


:sick:

[Lewis]

Not a lot wrong with those (other than wasting them on us).

[SvN]

Milan 08. Cafu and Maldini. 37 and 39, both a month from birthdays, come season end

Maldini was a centre half by then.

[niko_cee]

Kaladze probably wasn't far off age-wise though, if he was still there.

[Magic]

Zanetti (39) Chivu (32). Inter '13.

[-james-]

Not a lot wrong with those (other than wasting them on us).

Maybe it's just those pictures, but the fit/shape look really odd. And the crest is fucking enourmous.

[Reg]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11240200/england-launch-new-2018-home-and-away-kits-ahead-of-world-cup


:sick:
They've managed to make the '82 tribute one crap as well by using a baseball tee design (or whatever you call it). England kits have been bad for a while. I liked this one:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/05/1409945564622_wps_28_England_s_captain_David_B.jpg

[John]

Those kits are all fine.

[Lewis]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/07/arsene-wenger-young-signings-transfers-arsenal

You reckon mate?

[mugbull]

Pochettino, the man with the snidest, cheatiest team in the league coming out and saying 'diving is fine, it's a good thing that players cheat the refs, get over it' is not a good look for him. Prepare to see refs finally start picking up on their massive amounts of rotational fouling/fouling to stop a counter/off the ball fouls/diving etc..

I definitely wouldn't be saying it the week before a game against a team who give away loads of penalties and don't win any.


Tactical fouls as cheating. Hmm. Hmmmmmm.

[John]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/07/arsene-wenger-young-signings-transfers-arsenal

You reckon mate?

I know we're always miles ahead, but that has to be the furthest behind anyone has ever been. I think that opinion started popping up on here about 2007.

[Reg]

Tactical fouls as cheating. Hmm. Hmmmmmm.
It is cheating. That's why you get punished. Just like you do for a handball, which is also cheating.

[Giggles]

Is cheating not doing something where you hope to not get caught? Tactical fouls and deliberate handballs are talking the punishment for a greater advantage when you know you'll be caught.

[mugbull]

It is cheating. That's why you get punished. Just like you do for a handball, which is also cheating.

Are all yellow card fouls cheating, or just the tactical ones? Or just the tactical ones against your team?

[Danny]

Maldini was a centre half by then.

Based it off this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%9308_A.C._Milan_season

He started the 05 final at left back too but the 07 at centre back. I think he did both depending on who was in the squad.

[Reg]

Not all yellow cards. I'd call cheating anything you intentionally do while knowing it's against the rules.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Are all yellow card fouls cheating, or just the tactical ones? Or just the tactical ones against your team?

Accidentally breaking the rules in an attempt to play the game fairly = fine.

Deliberately breaking the rules because you think it will gain an advantage compared to playing fairly = not fine and if people are regularly doing it the rules are inadequate.

[mugbull]

Yeah fair, I mean for me cheating is when you lie or deceive or do something with the intention of not being discovered. Rotating fouls isn't a cheat, it's a tactic, and tactical fouls are perfectly reasonable defending. I don't fuck with diving but I also don't think it needs to be as big of a deal as people make it. I won't crawl into Poch's anus and claim that regulating that kind of behavior will kill the game though...

[Jimmy Floyd]

'Cheating' isn't a great word in football really, I'd say cheating is if you do something that's outside the game i.e. sneak a 12th player onto the pitch. I guess Poch's point is that he thinks diving is an integral part of football (which is very much the case in Latin America where he comes from) whereas Sean Dyche's Brexit Boys think it isn't anything to do with football.

[Giggles]

The whole tally-ho stiff upper lip old bean needs to fuck off from the English game anyway. You're as bad as any of the rest for some of this stuff.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you watched a few South American/Arab league games you might change that view. In some (mainly hot) countries it's literally a game of who can go 1-0 up and run the clock down. Refereeing very hot blooded as well, let everything go unless you touch the star player/number 10 and then it's a red card.

[John Arne]

How have I not seen this before? Absolutely inspirational stuff from Giggsy....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GbqF9BYbcw