Last Man/Woman/Gender Neutral Standing

[Magic]

Rules are easy enough to grasp, no tl;dr here folks.

Put your name forward, I'll compile a list, we all pick a team from the Premiership and if they win that weekend (loss/draw = out) that week you go through to the next round.

As this is a new-ish game I'll accept ideas. Should we include the #FL72? Should we include the SPL? All the teams? What happens when there is a draw? etc

Let me know your thoughts and interest. :)

THE TEAMS:

Arsenal
Aston Villa
Bournemouth: Maz
Chelsea
Cyrstal Palace
Everton
Leicester: Mahow
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Newcastle
Norwich
Southampton
Stoke
Sunderland
Swansea
Spurs
Watford
West Brom
West Ham: Magic

THE PLAYERS:

Magic
igor_balis
regista
Mazuuurk
Mahow

[Toby]

You need to stick to one league or you're going to have far too many easy games to choose.

I'd be in for Premier League or Champions League but doubt I could be arsed for anything else.

[Browning]

Yea, why not.

[Boydy]

What's to stop people just picking the same game all the time?

[Yevrah]

You've not explained the rules properly Magic.

Oh and I'd do it for the Premier League.

[Toby]

What's to stop people just picking the same game all the time?

Magic's missed it out but you're only allowed to pick each team once.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Leave it for the Premiership and I'm in.

[Magic]

It's a new idea (not stolen chortle). I'm still finding my feet. Stop having a go at me you cunts. You know what fucking forget it.

[Magic]

Is there a way to keep people interested once they get knocked out?

[7om]

You should have explained it properly from the off.

[Magic]

Rather than LMS should we have a points based system instead? Or is that too boring?

[Toby]

It's a new idea (not stolen chortle). I'm still finding my feet. Stop having a go at me you cunts. You know what fucking forget it.

Who cares about the losers?

If it got down to final few and they all picked losing teams in the same week, would you start all over again with everybody or have a rollover week with those players?

Also, would we be playing for money?

[Smiffy]

.....

[Magic]

Who cares about the losers?

If it got down to final few and they all picked losing teams in the same week, would you start all over again with everybody or have a rollover week with those players?

Also, would we be playing for money?

Fair enough, it's probably going to be fairly quick turnaround time.

Money or vcash? LOL.

Should we do #FL72 then and you can only pick a team once?

[Spammer]

I'm up for this

[Byron]

I'm in, play for real money. Say everyone puts £5 in and then prizes for top 3?

[7om]

And who handles the dosh? I'm not having Magic piss it away on organic Coco Pops for his brat.

[Byron]

Maybe someone like Toby or Reg?

[SvN]

Yes please

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've done shit like this before and all paid up after the events.

I don't mind either way tbh.

[Pen]

Let's do Premier league.

[Toby]

You just do it on trust and everybody pays the winner directly. Like fuck am I being made responsible for it.

[Magic]

I'll take the money. I have plenty money not to steal yours.

[SvN]

Look at Magic desperately trying to con the board, the filthy urchin.

[Giggles]

Magic could lend all us peasants a few quid.

[Magic]

I'll work on this tomorrow. Is it safe to post my acc no and sort code or should I just PM?

[Toby]

There's no point having money sitting around for weeks, we did this for the Grand National and it worked seamlessly. Nobody is a big enough cunt to lie about paying a fiver.

[Magic]

Excuse me I have 3.5% interest on my current account. Transfer it tonight gents. :drool:

[Reg]

Last World Cup when we did a sweepstake and I was lucky enough to draw Germany, I'm almost certain 2-3 people never ended up paying their £5.

Despite that I'd be up for this.

[Magic]

It's not a sweepie.

[Reg]

I know.

[SvN]

Name and shame.

[Reg]

The website's not working, so I can't check my pms.

Hopefully they'll remember and refrain from taking part, or own up. I wouldn't blame them for forgetting though.

[Pen]

Last World Cup when we did a sweepstake and I was lucky enough to draw Germany, I'm almost certain 2-3 people never ended up paying their £5.

Despite that I'd be up for this.

You sure they didn't pay the others who ended up winning something? I remember getting two different pm's as I wanted to pay before going on holiday so I wouldn't forget to pay. I think both you and Spoonsky pm'd me and I paid you as you were faster.

[Reg]

Possibly. If they did, they could have replied to my PMs politely nagging them.

edit- pretty sure I knew the total I should have received.

But whatever, I suspect they made a mistake/were really busy at work or whatever. I doubt anybody on here would deliberately avoid paying a fiver, we're a pretty good bunch.

[Spoonsky]

Same happened with me for the WC sweepstake (I was Argentina) but in their cases it was mostly people who hadn't really agreed to it and had been put in unknowingly. It wasn't really worth the 15 quid to pursue it.

I am down for this but make sure that everyone explicitly agrees to pay from the start, or puts the money in a fund beforehand.

[Magic]

OK so here are the rules:

It is the #FL72. You can pick a team only once. Once you have picked said team I will update the OP so you can't pick again. Only league games. People can pick the same team (but obviously not if they've already played with them).

Money will be collected at the end of the game. There will be prizes for 3rd, 2nd and 1st. This will be dependent on how many people play. If multiple people lose and that ends the game, it will be rolled over until there is only one man standing.

Thoughts?

[SvN]

Sounds good to me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The FL72?

What the fuck is wrong with you? Either make it the Premiership or don't bother.

[Magic]

The FL72?

What the fuck is wrong with you? Either make it the Premiership or don't bother.

You can only pick one team you mong. That'll make it very boring very quickly with very little in the way of strategy.

[Toby]

Have you actually played this before, Magic? Using the whole football league sounds like a complete clusterfuck. We'll probably end up still playing at the end of the season.

[Magic]

No I've just made the game up (:baz:).

Fine just the Prem?

[7om]

What is the method for picking the team (PM you or in the thread?) and what is the deadline?

[SvN]

Why does having more teams mean it's going to last longer?

Ignore this post, I totally misread the rules and thought we picked a team then stuck with it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Using the Premiership means that you have to pick and choose carefully, you really have to weigh up when to pick a 'danger' team.

[Magic]

Just post in here as it's no big secret. Multiple posters can have one team they just can't pick it again. A risky strat.

Deadline is lunchtime on gameday? Any objections to that?

[Magic]

Using the Premiership means that you have to pick and choose carefully, you really have to weigh up when to pick a 'danger' team.

I don't see how the FL72 isn't even riskier. Predicting results there is fucking impossible.

[Toby]

Why does having more teams mean it's going to last longer?

It's not necessarily more teams that is the issue, but having more leagues means a lot more games where an in form team is playing a weak side.

Rather than just being able to pick the Premier League top four before things get properly difficult, everybody can choose the best teams in four leagues and suddenly we've played sixteen weeks without a huge shock and half the players are still in the game.

[phonics]

Can I do anything with Magics bank account number, name and email address?

If so, I'll play.

[Magic]

OK whatever, if this is successful or really quick we could do another for the 72.

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[Magic]

:(

Anyone know an already formatted fixture list?

[igor_balis]

I'm in.

[Magic]

What shall we call it money wise seeing as how this is the first time?

[Reg]

I'd be up for this, sounds good.

Football League or Prem, either would work.

[Magic]

Three players confirmed, any more interested?

[Mazuuurk]

Depends on how much cash, and if it's the Premier League or not (i'm not knowledgable enough about any other league)

[Magic]

It's already been confirmed as just the PL, mate. £5.

[Mazuuurk]

Ah ok. How do we transfer money?

[Magic]

Just at the end to the winner.

[Mazuuurk]

Shouldn't someone hold all the money, and then transfer it to them at the end?

And what I meant was what service do we use to actually transfer money with?

[Magic]

I was going to say just transfer all the money to the gamesmaster (me). Then I'll distribute it in one lump sum to the winner.

You don't pay, you don't play. Stops people not paying if they go out early. But whatevs.

[Mazuuurk]

OK yeah that sounds good, but I still want to know which service I'll have to use to transfer money with to participate (since I don't want to have to create anything new).

I have paypal for instance, will that do?

[Magic]

I don't use PP. I was going to PM each player my bank account number and sort code so they could transfer the money. Once it's in I can confirm the player.

What do you need for paypal?

[Mazuuurk]

You just create an account and pair it with your bank account / credit card.

I won't be using a normal Bank transfer though, it means I'll have to use IBAN and the transfer alone will cost me about 5-10 quid, which doesn't seem worth it.

I suspect this is the same for anyone outside the UK.

[Giggles]

Just chuck some Euro coins in an envelope.

[Magic]

I do have an account but I tried to pay for something using PP and it was a pain in the arse so gave up. I'll have another look at it this afty. According to my account I have a card linked already.

[Mazuuurk]

Just chuck some Euro coins in an envelope.

We don't have the fucking Euro you mook :cab:

[Mazuuurk]

I do have an account but I tried to pay for something using PP and it was a pain in the arse so gave up. I'll have another look at it this afty. According to my account I have a card linked already.

Yeah I used to think that, but they seem to have made it a whole lot simpler.

Anyway, I've only used it to SEND money, not Recieve it, so not sure how well that works.

[Magic]

It looks like there's fees involved with international transfers. Can't we just ban foreigners? Or not use money, just e-dickswinging?

[Giggles]

We don't have the fucking Euro you mook :cab:

Might as well get him Sterling then.

[Mazuuurk]

Well I'm happy to sit out, or perhaps abstain from any prizemoney (so that when eventually I win, the 2nd person will get the 1st prize), if it's any hassle.

[Magic]

Why don't we do a trial run which is free then if it goes well we'll do money? I can have something properly set up by then.

The first run will be tomorrow so it might be the best idea.

[Magic]

This weeks' games:

Saturday 3rd October, 2015
Aston Villa vs Stoke
Bournemouth vs Watford
Chelsea vs Southampton, 17.30
Crystal Palace vs West Brom, 12.45
Man City vs Newcastle
Norwich vs Leicester
Sunderland vs West Ham

Sunday 4th October, 2015
Arsenal vs Man Utd, 16.00
Everton vs Liverpool, 13.30
Swansea vs Tottenham, 16.00

[Magic]

I'm going for West Ham.

[Mazuuurk]

So the rules are you can pick ANY team, but only once (presumably until you've in theory picked all 20 and it resets)

[Mazuuurk]

Bournemouth, for me.

[Magic]

So the rules are you can pick ANY team, but only once (presumably until you've in theory picked all 20 and it resets)

Oh shit. Never thought it would get to that.

Toby? :cry:

[Mazuuurk]

Well I mean there's not much more to it, is there?

If someone manages to pick a winning team 20 rounds in a row, they will 99% have won already, unless some people systematically pick the same teams each round, but even then they will likely sooner or later split paths.

IF there are more than one person still standing after 20 rounds, you just reset the count and allow people to pick any team they want again, no?

[Toby]

What would be the main challenges in building a website that let people pay into a betting pool (like this) and then distributed it securely to the winner?

I'm sort of surprised it's never been done, you'd think it'd be popular for things like Grand National sweepstakes.

[SvN]

It probably does exist. It's not a huge technical challenge. Security and legal stuff would probably be the biggest pain in the arse.

At a basic level, it could all be done using something like Paypal or Stripe in about a day.

[SvN]

Tried to find a site that did it and found this: http://www.babybookie.com/ :D

[Pen]

If we're paying up front, would it be better to start after the international break?

[Sam]

What would be the main challenges in building a website that let people pay into a betting pool (like this) and then distributed it securely to the winner?

I'm sort of surprised it's never been done, you'd think it'd be popular for things like Grand National sweepstakes.

Sounds like something that could work following a model similar to Kickstarter?

People 'pledge' a set amount of funds towards the bet, then bet is then placed and the winning split evenly amongst the participants.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Leicester for me.

[Magic]

This can be a trial run. If successful we will do a paid one. Added 'how.

[Magic]

I have three players that have picked teams. I'm out on the lash tonight and busy tomorrow so come on.

[Magic]

Well Mahow, congratulations you are winner. Maz and I both went out at the first hurdle.

Game over, I guess! What a rip-roaring success this has been.

:moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Give me my £10 bitches.

[Magic]

:D