Shit's Going Down in Vegas.

[Giggles]

Someone firing on a music festival. Other reports of an explosive in a hotel and other shooters but they're not on any official sources yet.

Some mad photos and videos on Twitter.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41466116

[Disco]

If only there were more guns in Vegas.

[Byron]

There need to be automatic turrets on all venues.

[Magic]

Not interested unless Islam confirmed.

[phonics]

274th mass shooting in 273 days in the States this year. There's definitely not a problem though.

Seems to be white people, at least one of the accomplices was called 'Marylou Danley'

[Kikó]

Are there any golf cups trump can dedicate these deaths to?

[niko_cee]

274th mass shooting in 273 days in the States this year. There's definitely not a problem though.

Seems to be white people, at least one of the accomplices was called 'Marylou Danley'

Hey hey hey, only 20 confirmed dead so far, can we really call that a mass shooting?

You'd assume mostly whities seeing as it was a country music thing. The scenes if it's a muslamic.

Opened fire from the 32nd floor of a building eh? Fucking hell. A novel approach.

[Shindig]

It's a mental health issue, something, something repeal Obamacare.

[phonics]

It'll be some dumbass lefty that thinks it's a smart idea to shoot some republicans or it'll be some dumbass in a MAGA hat shouting 'Allah Akbar' to try pretend it's ISIS.

[Shindig]

I mean, you can get the flags at Hot Topic.

[Magic]

My GOD the fucking stones on this guy:

https://twitter.com/JPY_Kurdish/status/914775430699372544

He's obviously a true liveleaker.

[Magic]

Also to me that sounds like two shooters unless it's just echo?

[niko_cee]

It's very much the thing I used to do on GTA, although he's fallen short of the bit where you bazooka the police helicopters sent to get you before making off in your Apache.

[phonics]

Also to me that sounds like two shooters unless it's just echo?

It'll be echo with that many glass skyscrapers around.

[Magic]

Yes shooter was actually in the hotel on the 32nd floor picking people off.

[Shindig]

Sounds like it wasn't a sniper effort either. Semi-auto or something in short, controlled bursts. My money's on an ex-serviceman.

[Magic]

It was fully auto.

[Shindig]

Aye, I knew I'd get it wrong. I keep thinking in my head that fully auto means you don't stop til the clip empties.

[Magic]

Semi-Auto - auto reload but single trigger pulls
Fully-Auto - auto reload and HOLD DOWN TRIGGER DIE MOTHERFUCKERS

[Magic]

50 confirmed now.

[Henry]

I suppose it's been a while since there was a major shooting spree. Or maybe they stopped reporting them so much.

This has got to be one of the biggest.

[wullie]

One more way in which old people are fucking up the world for the rest of us.

[Magic]

I suppose it's been a while since there was a major shooting spree. Or maybe they stopped reporting them so much.

This has got to be one of the biggest.

It is, eclipsing that gay nightclub one by 1 at the moment.

[Henry]

Also, what are the chances that this is some guy who ran up huge debts in a casino and went mental?

[SvN]

Jesus Christ. It was 2 people when I woke up, now we're up to 50 plus. I suppose shooting hundreds of bullets into a huge crowd makes that sort of number inevitable, really.

[Max Power]

Also, what are the chances that this is some guy who ran up huge debts in a casino and went mental?

That + a justified hatred for country music. A deadly combo.

[Kikó]

I like that you can bring an automatic weapon into a hotel casually.

[Henry]

I like that you can bring an automatic weapon into a hotel casually.

I was in Reno, which isn't too far from Vegas and they had signs at the entrances of the casinos making a point of telling people that they couldn't bring automatic weapons inside. I mean, fucking hell.

[SvN]

I got an Uber over there and the driver had a shotgun on the passenger seat.

[-james-]

I got an Uber over there and the driver had a shotgun on the passenger seat.

Fair enough if it called it first.

[Lewis]

I like that you can bring an automatic weapon into a hotel casually.

Can't let these things change the way we live our lives.

[phonics]

It'll be some dumbass lefty that thinks it's a smart idea to shoot some republicans or it'll be some dumbass in a MAGA hat shouting 'Allah Akbar' to try pretend it's ISIS.

White bloke. I'm going for the former but I'll put a fiver on some guy who lost all his money gambling too.

[Magic]

White bloke. I'm going for the former but I'll put a fiver on some guy who lost all his money gambling too.

Did you have to peer over your storming erection to type that? Freak.

[phonics]

You say this every time. It's really weird. Get help.

[John]

Magic projecting like a fucking IMAX.

[Magic]

I only get a boner when it's real Islamists.

[Lewis]

If it is some anti-Trump freak the crisis in the NARRATIVE will make nothing to do with Islam look like the actual truth.

[Pepe]

Anti-Trump freak is my guess. Probably one of those Berniebros.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have to say the 'Laura Robson safe as 50 die' headlines have given me a good chuckle.

[Pepe]

Reminds me of this lad, a bit retard-looking, who was selling 'Impeach Trump' buttons on the street the other day. The buttons also had some weed images, which he told me is ok since he comes from Colorado, where it is legal. After telling him thanks but no thanks I kept walking and a few blocks later I saw his car: A Prius with the same 'Impeach Trump' graphics on stickers on the side of the car. The best was his license plate (from Colorado) which read 'Hillary.' :lol:

[Pepe]

All that to say that I think he did it.

[Disco]

Also to me that sounds like two shooters unless it's just echo?

You're hearing three things: the report of the gun actually firing, the noise of bullets going overhead, and a ton of echoes.

[Magic]

Reminds me of the A10 Warthog. :drool:

*destruction*

*3 seconds later*

FZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZEXPLOSION

[Shindig]

I have to say the 'Laura Robson safe as 50 die' headlines have given me a good chuckle.

Remember how these things go.

1. Tennis player gets shot at.
2. Wimbledon champion.

[bruhnaldo]

:(

[Disco]

Even Corny is getting involved.

914812425752518657

[phonics]

White bloke. I'm going for the former but I'll put a fiver on some guy who lost all his money gambling too.

914866835081846784

I'm going all in on this one now. Which would maybe make that story about how some woman got on stage telling everyone they were going to die make a little more sense?

[Giggles]

914866835081846784

I'm going all in on this one now. Which would maybe make that story about how some woman got on stage telling everyone they were going to die make a little more sense?

Who got on stage?

[phonics]

Who got on stage?

Some woman who some are now claiming was this 'Marylou' they announced they were looking for earlier. Think it was from one witness though so how reliable I'm not sure.

[John]

The witness I saw talking about that didn't say anything about her getting on stage, just that some little Latino woman was being a teat and shouted that they were all going to die as she was being kicked out.

[phonics]

And a live demonstration on how misinformation carries.

Meanwhile, here's a quality series of tweets.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJF8ogVAAIELwx.jpg

and on the other side of the dumbass tree. This guy,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJHONhW0AAivBT.jpg

Who wants to tell him he, infact, did do that.

[niko_cee]

"Warmest condolences" just doesn't sound right.

They have to be heartfelt, or perhaps deepest.

[John]

That's very obviously a bad joke.

[niko_cee]

Trump's comments?

In all seriousness, he's the kind of crackpot they need to actually do something about this (this being the proliferation of serious weaponry/the second amendment). He won't, but it'd be awesome if he did. Total liberal mindfuck. It might take some sort of direct/personal involvement to rile him sufficiently. Maybe someone shoot Barron.

[John]

If someone close to him was shot he'd be more likely to have the offender beaten to death with Posse Comitatus than to address the wider issue.

[phonics]

I think he's talking about my second screen cap. It's not.

[Henry]

https://commongunsense.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/screen-shot-2015-07-27-at-12-12-30-pm.png

True.

Also true. (https://rochdaleherald.co.uk/2017/10/02/the-nra-are-a-bunch-of-fucking-arseholes-and-every-single-member-has-the-blood-of-las-vegas-concert-goers-on-their-cold-hearted-hands/)

[Disco]

I thought the same thing earlier, if a school full of dead kids wasn't enough to get something done then where do you go from there? Is there even a rival organisation to the NRA?

[Magic]

For every Sandy there will be an Orlando which some will agree with.

[Yevrah]

Agreed with the above. There is literally nothing that could happen that could make America decide that liberal access to guns is a bad idea. It doesn't matter how many of these type of events occur.

[phonics]

It's the most intelectually dishonest thing going that whole, "Can't you wait one day? Don't politicize this event." takes. Can you politicize the one that happened a month or so back instead then?

[Lewis]

It's probably still worth adhering to as a way of weeding out the immediate shit 'takes'.

[mikem]

It is worth adhering to because moralizing to gun owners doesn't work and stops any progress. Gun deaths are roughly equivalent to automobile deaths and the mean gun death is a suicide. Gun owners don't tie their gun to a mass shooting any more than a driver does to a horrific car accident. Nobody thinks "I was driving today. That increased traffic on the road and contributed to the accident."

It just stops conversation and turns it into debate. And we don't have honest political debates about anything in the US. Sadly, gun control does work here. How do we know? If this turns out to be a fully automatic weapon, then it will be the fourth crime of any type involving an automatic weapon since 1934.

[Byron]

Shares in gun companies rose between 1-2% in the first few minutes of trading on Monday, just hours after the Las Vegas massacre.

Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, told the BBC that shares in gun manufacturers tended to rise after events like these because "investors believe there will be a rush to purchase guns before new gun control regulations are put into place”.

If we needed any more evidence that America is fucked.

[Shindig]

That's the battle you have to face. Gun control only happens in the US if the consumers (because it's a consumable product) don't rush to buy.

[Alex]

"Warmest condolences" just doesn't sound right.

They have to be heartfelt, or perhaps deepest.

I was thinking about this earlier when I saw his comment on Twitter, absolutely bizarre wording. The fucking exclamation mark on "God bless you!" too, perhaps I'm being pedantic here, but it's just not appropriate, tonally, is it? Why not just thrown a fucking sad face emoji on the end for good measure. Jesus.

His tweets always come across this way. Even on the off chance that the actual content of them isn't complete shit, they just never strike you as "presidential" in any way, shape or form. The entire White House press team must be fucking desperate to wrestle control of the Twitter account away from him, but presumably nobody dares try.

[Magic]

It is worth adhering to because moralizing to gun owners doesn't work and stops any progress. Gun deaths are roughly equivalent to automobile deaths and the mean gun death is a suicide. Gun owners don't tie their gun to a mass shooting any more than a driver does to a horrific car accident. Nobody thinks "I was driving today. That increased traffic on the road and contributed to the accident."

It just stops conversation and turns it into debate. And we don't have honest political debates about anything in the US. Sadly, gun control does work here. How do we know? If this turns out to be a fully automatic weapon, then it will be the fourth crime of any type involving an automatic weapon since 1934.

Yes but cars have much convenience. Guns don't have any. Shite argument.

[Magic]

I was thinking about this earlier when I saw his comment on Twitter, absolutely bizarre wording. The fucking exclamation mark on "God bless you!" too, perhaps I'm being pedantic here, but it's just not appropriate, tonally, is it? Why not just thrown a fucking sad face emoji on the end for good measure. Jesus.

His tweets always come across this way. Even on the off chance that the actual content of them isn't complete shit, they just never strike you as "presidential" in any way, shape or form. The entire White House press team must be fucking desperate to wrestle control of the Twitter account away from him, but presumably nobody dares try.

He's a classless cunt.

[Pepe]

Cars can fuck off too.

[Magic]

Bikes only. :drool:

[Yevrah]

The car argument might just be the worst argument ever conceived on anything, ever.

Although I note that Henners isn't rushing to the defence of/to use it in this thread.

[Pepe]

Bikes only. :drool:

Thinking of thousands of leather-clad Americans or, even worse, spandex-clad Americans going around their bikes almost makes me reconsider.

[Pepe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xz3h5H-zhs

Count me in. :drool:

[Magic]

Thinking of thousands of leather-clad Americans or, even worse, spandex-clad Americans going around their bikes almost makes me reconsider.

Maybe you wouldn't be such fat disgusting cunts.

[mikem]

I'm not saying cars kill more people, blah blah. I'm simply saying people have a hard time connecting something they use without incident to a larger problem.

[Bartholomert]

It's really so easy to inflict mass casualties if you put your mind to it, it's a stroke of luck ISIS has been as consistently incompetent as they are.

Sad day for America. The number of people on social media (including an executive at CBS with a degree from Columbia Law School who was promptly fired) seemingly triumphant at the deaths of what they assume to be Trump supporters, is really sickening.

[John Arne]

It's really so easy to inflict mass casualties if you put your mind to it, it's a stroke of luck ISIS has been as consistently incompetent as they are.

Sad day for America. The number of people on social media (including an executive at CBS with a degree from Columbia Law School who was promptly fired) seemingly triumphant at the deaths of what they assume to be Trump supporters, is really sickening.

Yes, it's the very tiny minority of fuckheads offering no sympathy that is the real tragedy here.

[Magic]

I'm not saying cars kill more people, blah blah. I'm simply saying people have a hard time connecting something they use without incident to a larger problem.

It's a lethal weapon for Christ sake.

[Yevrah]

I'm not saying cars kill more people, blah blah. I'm simply saying people have a hard time connecting something they use without incident to a larger problem.

Is that the "guns don't kill people, people kill people" argument? If the wider problem is mental illness, then wouldn't it be a good idea not to give mental people such easy access to weapons?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The difference between a car and a gun, or people and a gun, or mental illness and a gun, is that a gun is literally designed to kill people. Its only purpose is to kill people. If it didn't kill people, it would not exist - and the only reason to own any kind of gun is to be able to kill people (or animals) if necessary.

[niko_cee]

The gombine haircut from American Armed Radio or somesuch (!!!) they had on Channel 4 news yesterday was top notch. You had Krishnan Guru-Murthy flailing away with all the classic lines, and this thousand yard stare just coming back with the daftest shit imaginable.

Sir, it is already illegal to kill someone with a gun!

In many ways I respect his shit happens perspective (even though it wasn't really) as there is no (honest) argument in favour of the status quo that doesn't end up there.

Couldn't even roll out the gun free zone defence, unless everyone is now to be armed with sniper rifles or bazookas to return fire in this situation (would be awesome).

[Henry]

The car argument might just be the worst argument ever conceived on anything, ever.

Although I note that Henners isn't rushing to the defence of/to use it in this thread.

Because we don't have people deciding that we should abandon our civil liberties that I have to respond to.

And no, owning machine guns isn't a civil liberty.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've worked this out - adjusted for population, just this event is worth 50% of the UK's annual gun murder rate.

[Yevrah]

Because we don't have people deciding that we should abandon our civil liberties that I have to respond to.

And no, owning machine guns isn't a civil liberty.

You don't think it is (and neither do I), but lots of Americans do, so it's hardly a conclusion that can be reached objectively.

[Spikey M]

I think the Swimmingpool defence is my favourite. BAN POOLS SO PEOPLE DON’T DROWN!!!1. How they fail to grasp that murder is the main reason that one of the items exists in the first place is beyond me.

But that’s enough about Barrymore.

[niko_cee]

Like isn't the right word, but it is interesting to look at that US mass shootings archive thing. I see some drop kick killed 8 people and then was shot by police on 10th September. Didn't hear a word about it. In any other civilsed nation that would be quite a big deal.

[John Arne]

Like isn't the right word, but it is interesting to look at that US mass shootings archive thing. I see some drop kick killed 8 people and then was shot by police on 10th September. Didn't hear a word about it. In any other civilsed nation that would be quite a big deal.

What's a 'drop kick'?

EDIT: Assuming it isn't the wrestling move.

[Spikey M]

Aussie slang for loser isn’t it?

[Shindig]

It's really so easy to inflict mass casualties if you put your mind to it.

These things could always be worse, though. Police response, how quick the crowd is to disperse, etc. And then you get situations like Randy Stair.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFRArJmAedA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Weis_Markets_shooting

[Bartholomert]

For the record, gun control doesn't actually lower gun crime rates per statistics:

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/03/statistician-researching-gun-violence-no-longer-believe-gun-control/

[Magic]

Her advice? Instead of focusing on feelgood policies that won’t do much of anything to reduce gun violence or on massively heavy-handed policies like confiscation, which have zero chance of passing, instead consider policies that will address the social pathologies that drive the three most common forms of gun homicides — suicide, gang violence, and domestic violence.


PMSL. So instead of doing something really simple like having GUN CONTROL she thinks the best method is to focus on gangs (impossible!), suicide (lol America health care) and domestics (lol wtf?).


What a fucking stupid cunt.

Instead of not having a lethal weapon to murder your wife, why don't you just go out for a meal? Don't shoot, sloot.

Thinking of a gang war between your rival drug dealers? Just punch each other instead guys, c'mon.

Don't kill yourself with a readily available lethal weapon with literally no chance of failing whilst you're in a seriously unstable state, just hold off, phone the Samaritans or something.

Fucking hate this bitch.