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Magic
22-09-2017, 10:13 AM
HAHAHAHA. I bet this will affect pricks like Kiko and SvN who are hipster twats.

SincereTheRebel
22-09-2017, 10:18 AM
1) what is poober?
2) what is hipster?

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 10:20 AM
Sadiq Khan is one of the most sinister, corrupt motherfuckers going, hopefully this will end the urban liberal love affair with him.

phonics
22-09-2017, 10:22 AM
Considering Ubers penchant for bribes and general corruption, if it were so, Sadiqs not doing a very good job of profiting off his.

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 10:25 AM
It's not just private companies that can offer bribes.

GS
22-09-2017, 10:25 AM
The irony of Labour supporting London being aghast at a pro-union, anti-innovation, anti-consumer decision like this is marvellous.

Boydy
22-09-2017, 10:26 AM
Sadiq Khan is one of the most sinister, corrupt motherfuckers going, hopefully this will end the urban liberal love affair with him.
What are you basing this on?

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 10:30 AM
What are you basing this on?

Prior knowledge. He'll never get outed in the current 'anyone prominent & ethnic is wonderful' climate, although Zac Goldsmith had a rubbish attempt at it.

phonics
22-09-2017, 10:32 AM
The irony of Labour supporting London being aghast at a pro-union, anti-innovation, anti-consumer decision like this is marvellous.

Examples? All the Labour supporters I follow that live there hate Uber. Although a couple of black guys I know are kicking off because traditional cabbies just won't pull over for them.

GS
22-09-2017, 10:34 AM
You need only scan Twitter to see the outrage manifesting itself.

Boydy
22-09-2017, 10:35 AM
Prior knowledge. He'll never get outed in the current 'anyone prominent & ethnic is wonderful' climate, although Zac Goldsmith had a rubbish attempt at it.
Prior knowledge of what? It seems like you've been saying this for years but do you actually have any evidence of anything or are you just going to keep hinting at 'dodgy brown fella' forever?

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 10:38 AM
Prior knowledge of what? It seems like you've been saying this for years but do you actually have any evidence of anything or are you just going to keep hinting at 'dodgy brown fella' forever?

Who do you think I am, MI5? I'm going to keep hinting at 'dodgy brown fella' forever.

phonics
22-09-2017, 10:42 AM
Who do you think we are? The Metropolitan Police? Just say what your accusation is.

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 10:44 AM
The irony of Labour supporting London being aghast at a pro-union, anti-innovation, anti-consumer decision like this is marvellous.

It's not 'Labour supporting London', you need to be more specific. Corbynistas will love it. It's more the monied young who are socially liberal and economically pro-market - i.e. the views which dominate the production and consumption of mainstream media, and the sector that keeps London going - who will hate it.

Magic
22-09-2017, 10:45 AM
wasn't he involved in some pretty dodgy voting fraud shit?

-james-
22-09-2017, 10:45 AM
Whats the point in this? I'm sure there are more people that like good, cheap taxi services than there are people in black cab unions, so it can't be for popularity.

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 10:47 AM
Whats the point in this? I'm sure there are more people that like good, cheap taxi services than there are people in black cab unions, so it can't be for popularity.

I'm undecided between massive midjudgement of the mood, and just another manifestation of the 'Who cares - I've got the electorate sewn up' mentality that tends to dominate London politics.

There will certainly never be another Tory mayor again in our lifetimes, so they don't have to worry on that front.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 12:21 PM
Uber. :sick:

Burn it down! burn it down!

Pen
22-09-2017, 12:46 PM
We suffered the same fate here as über went on a years hiatus in August according to themselves. It has been pretty handy and I much preferred it to cabs in London too.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 12:47 PM
Convenience and marginally lower prices, all that matters in life.

GS
22-09-2017, 12:49 PM
Yes, denying consumers a choice is great for long term prosperity.

Lewis
22-09-2017, 12:50 PM
It's not 'Labour supporting London', you need to be more specific. Corbynistas will love it. It's more the monied young who are socially liberal and economically pro-market - i.e. the views which dominate the production and consumption of mainstream media, and the sector that keeps London going - who will hate it.

Giving the fanny classes even a little taste of pinko economics can only serve the country well in the long run.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 12:50 PM
Ah, poor consumers! What are they going to do now?

Pepe
22-09-2017, 12:50 PM
Giving the fanny classes even a little taste of pinko economics can only serve the country well in the long run.

The fanny classes, I like that.

Magic
22-09-2017, 12:51 PM
Someone needs lessons in capitalism.

GS? Bring it to the table.

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 12:52 PM
Giving the fanny classes even a little taste of pinko economics can only serve the country well in the long run.

It's been a long old road for 'Melvyn Bragg and that'.

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 12:57 PM
It's actually an interesting topic for categorising people based on their reactions to the ban. The pro-ban people seem to encompass Corbynistas, Nigel Farage, and various Blairite types who want to tell you how to live your life. An unholy alliance if ever there was one.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 12:57 PM
Someone needs lessons in capitalism.

GS? Bring it to the table.

What's capitalism?

Magic
22-09-2017, 12:58 PM
What's capitalism?

INDIVIDUALISM. CONSUMERISM. PURCHASING POWER.

Twaddle.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 01:01 PM
In any case, I bet nothing will happen. Uber will promise to behave better, the government will be glad they could reach an agreement that benefits everyone, Twitter will celebrate.

bruhnaldo
22-09-2017, 01:02 PM
Can a brother get some context

edit: I'm guessing they're banning uber?

Pepe
22-09-2017, 01:04 PM
Can a brother get some context

Uber will allegedly not be allowed to operate in London anymore because Greyball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyball). Cue outrage from all sides.

Lewis
22-09-2017, 01:05 PM
It's actually an interesting topic for categorising people based on their reactions to the ban. The pro-ban people seem to encompass Corbynistas, Nigel Farage, and various Blairite types who want to tell you how to live your life. An unholy alliance if ever there was one.

The less obviously mental people attempting to justify it by saying that the cabbies have to meet various regulations... So get rid of those you idiots. The private hire/taxi thing is stupid. This is what it must have been like in the sixties.

phonics
22-09-2017, 01:07 PM
Change.org petition out there to 'REVERSE THE UBER BAN'. Interesting to see people using platforms normally reserved for grassroots activism.

https://i.imgur.com/ydsOzAJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/iFdCSSk.png

Weirdly, he didn't declare that in the bio of the petition.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 01:13 PM
The less obviously mental people attempting to justify it by saying that the cabbies have to meet various regulations... So get rid of those you idiots.

Maybe they should. How is letting some companies ignore regulations they don't like ok though? Are we going to extend that courtesy to individuals?

Lewis
22-09-2017, 01:15 PM
You say 'grassroots activism', but really you mean a shop window for cranks.

phonics
22-09-2017, 01:17 PM
You say 'grassroots activism', but really you mean a shop window for cranks.

Yeah like I said, grassroots activism. Been to a protest?

Lewis
22-09-2017, 01:19 PM
Maybe they should. How is letting some companies ignore regulations they don't like ok though? Are we going to extend that courtesy to individuals?

They aren't ignoring them. They just aren't subject to the same ones as 'traditional' black cabs, which subject themselves to a body of regulations designed to prevent other people from breaking into the market. It's more like having to get hygiene certificates for your own house because chefs see people feeding themselves as a threat to their livelihoods.

phonics
22-09-2017, 01:25 PM
And employment laws that they're ignoring.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 01:33 PM
They aren't ignoring them. They just aren't subject to the same ones as 'traditional' black cabs, which subject themselves to a body of regulations designed to prevent other people from breaking into the market. It's more like having to get hygiene certificates for your own house because chefs see people feeding themselves as a threat to their livelihoods.

Traditional cab companies do operate like fucking cartels in most places. As to not being subject to the same rules, that is mostly because they decided so, not the other way around. I don't know the London specifics, but in the US they have gotten away with a lot of shit (main issues being labor related) just because Silicon Valley, mate.

Magic
22-09-2017, 01:38 PM
Omg the Vice City taxi missions. :drool:

Lewis
22-09-2017, 01:42 PM
And employment laws that they're ignoring.

Which ones?

phonics
22-09-2017, 01:49 PM
Classifying drivers as self-employed when they're quite clearly Uber employees. Even though they lost the case you still don't get the benefits that you're supposed to.

Lewis
22-09-2017, 02:24 PM
They were appealing that, so not ignoring anything.

Pen
22-09-2017, 04:38 PM
Convenience and marginally lower prices, all that matters in life. Actually it's considerably cheaper in here because the taxi monopoly (well the license is monopolized) and it was easier to get one in certain places. But even if that's the case your leap of logic in your reply was something else.

Kikó
22-09-2017, 05:46 PM
Black cabs can fuck off. Uber has made London affordable to travel around in when you need a cab. I do hope the quite excellent TFL reverse their decision sharpish.

Boydy
22-09-2017, 06:06 PM
TFL should just make their own version.

Kikó
22-09-2017, 06:11 PM
Gett are running a black cab service for £3 across Waterloo to Islington.

Shindig
22-09-2017, 06:14 PM
Hop on the back of a Deliveroo bike instead.

Jimmy Floyd
22-09-2017, 06:41 PM
Because I never go to London these days, I hadn't realised how massive Deliveroo has become until I visited a couple of regional cities last week. Every third person is one of those fuckers on a bike.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 06:55 PM
Our whole taxi system has fallen on it's arse since Hailo rebranded as MyTaxi and subsequently turned to dirt. Like fuck am I ever getting 'an' Uber though.

Kikó
22-09-2017, 08:19 PM
Why?

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:22 PM
The unregulated nature of it meaning it could be any cunt driving. It's basically a way of thumbing with your phone.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:24 PM
The Mrs informs me we don't have Uber anyway, so that's an even better reason I'll never get one.

GS
22-09-2017, 08:25 PM
It's not 'Labour supporting London', you need to be more specific. Corbynistas will love it. It's more the monied young who are socially liberal and economically pro-market - i.e. the views which dominate the production and consumption of mainstream media, and the sector that keeps London going - who will hate it.

The 'Labour supporting London' lot I'm referring to are your standard Citizen of the World wankers who seem to think that Wor Jez and his band of Socialist Merry Men are nice, harmless lefties rather than the anti-consumer, anti-business, anti-competition zealots they actually are. As Lewis alludes to, exposing these people to the potential consequences of their 'pinko economics' is no bad thing.

Raoul Duke
22-09-2017, 08:25 PM
I hope they can figure out something to comply with the regulations and get it back on the road. It's a pretty great service and really convenient.

GS
22-09-2017, 08:26 PM
The unregulated nature of it meaning it could be any cunt driving. It's basically a way of thumbing with your phone.

You could extend this logic to every conceivable mode of 'non-private' transport. Let the consumer decide for themselves.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:27 PM
You could extend this logic to every conceivable mode of 'non-private' transport. Let the consumer decide for themselves.

He asked why I wouldn't get one. I couldn't give a shit about the 'consumer'.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 08:27 PM
Last time I was in México my friends were raving at how awesome Uber is. My gf and I lolled them off and said regular cabs were fine, only to be received by the usual concerns of SAFETY!

Well, just last week some woman was raped and murdered by her Uber driver, which has triggered a bunch of marchs to protest feminicide. Guess who's ready to claim his e-victory now?

Disco
22-09-2017, 08:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VEg3ODz.png

Kikó
22-09-2017, 08:32 PM
He asked why I wouldn't get one. I couldn't give a shit about the 'consumer'.

Indeed. Your choice.

I mean cabbies have had history of picking people up and doing things to people prior to uber. At least you can track the journey and report the car details if something terrible was to occur.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 08:34 PM
Plus they are known to be really good (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/13/uber-failing-to-report-sex-attacks-by-drivers-says-met-police) at responding to reports.

Kikó
22-09-2017, 08:36 PM
If only there was some way for the victim to report it.

Pepe
22-09-2017, 08:39 PM
They did.

GS
22-09-2017, 08:39 PM
Indeed. Your choice.

I mean cabbies have had history of picking people up and doing things to people prior to uber. At least you can track the journey and report the car details if something terrible was to occur.

Choice is anathema to the left.

If people are voting for "Sadiq" or Corbyn's Labour, they really have zero grounds for complaint.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:39 PM
Indeed. Your choice.

I mean cabbies have had history of picking people up and doing things to people prior to uber. At least you can track the journey and report the car details if something terrible was to occur.

Yeah if only taxis had an identification number of some sort.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:39 PM
What have labour got to do with all this? It was mentioned early and often.

Or is everything to do with labour?

Kikó
22-09-2017, 08:44 PM
Yeah if only taxis had an identification number of some sort.

So you jot down reg plates in every taxi you get in? I mean it's possible but it's not likely.

Look uber are run by some uber cunts (lol) and I don't agree with all their practices but I've used them for years in multiple cities and it's a great, convenient service.

And gs may have not called me a rabid lefty. I'm not sure what's going on.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:46 PM
So you jot down reg plates in every taxi you get in? I mean it's possible but it's not likely.

Look uber are run by some uber cunts (lol) and I don't agree with all their practices but I've used them for years in multiple cities and it's a great, convenient service.

And gs may have not called me a rabid lefty. I'm not sure what's going on.

The reg? The taxis here have a 5 digit ID number that's on the roof sign and the driver has an ID number which has to be visible when sitting in the back seats. If you book on Lynk, etc you get both numbers and the drivers name before they pick you up.

http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1937565.1411382376!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg

mugbull
22-09-2017, 08:50 PM
Uber's been getting shit on so hard the past couple years. I fucking love it. The most popular Uber-substitute in the US is called Lyft and according to the drivers (who usually drive for both) Lyft pays em like 20-30% more net.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:52 PM
Uber's been getting shit on so hard the past couple years. I fucking love it. The most popular Uber-substitute in the US is called Lyft and according to the drivers (who usually drive for both) Lyft pays em like 20-30% more net.

Didn't Uber get caught getting their staff to book and cancel Lyft drivers to lose them business?

mugbull
22-09-2017, 08:53 PM
Didn't Uber get caught getting their staff to book and cancel Lyft drivers to lose them business?

Never heard of that, that's hilarious. There's no way it could have enough of an effect to actually do anything, other than eventually be unearthed by some journo and become more bad press

Kikó
22-09-2017, 08:55 PM
The reg? The taxis here have a 5 digit ID number that's on the roof sign and the driver has an ID number which has to be visible when sitting in the back seats. If you book on Lynk, etc you get both numbers and the drivers name before they pick you up.

[IMGIMG]

Fair that's different than picking up off a cab in the street.

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:57 PM
Never heard of that, that's hilarious. There's no way it could have enough of an effect to actually do anything, other than eventually be unearthed by some journo and become more bad press

The info seems to have come from Lyft themselves from reading the start of this so it may well be bullshit

http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/11/technology/uber-fake-ride-requests-lyft/index.html

Pepe
22-09-2017, 08:57 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/11/technology/uber-fake-ride-requests-lyft/index.html


One Lyft passenger, identified by seven different Lyft drivers as an Uber recruiter, canceled 300 rides from May 26 to June 10. That user's phone number was tied to 21 other accounts, for a total of 1,524 canceled rides.


It's not the first time Uber has been accused of canceling rides on a competing service. Earlier this year, CNNMoney reported that Uber staffers in New York called and withdrew over 100 ride requests with another taxi app, Gett, in the span of three days. After that incident, Uber said in a statement that they would "tone down their sales tactics."

:harold:

Giggles
22-09-2017, 08:58 PM
Fair that's different than picking up off a cab in the street.

Even if I was flagging one in town, I'd always text the Mrs the number and she does likewise. If they're going to bum me and chop me up then the least they can do is be easier caught for it.

Spikey M
23-09-2017, 05:54 AM
The main concern I hear about Uber is from women because the drivers ‘could be anyone’. Mate, have you ever been in a normal Taxi? Having a badge is no barrier to being a fucking weirdo.

Magic
23-09-2017, 07:59 AM
I might open a carry out and destroy the other ones by phoning in loads of shit orders.

Giggles
23-09-2017, 08:33 AM
The main concern I hear about Uber is from women because the drivers ‘could be anyone’. Mate, have you ever been in a normal Taxi? Having a badge is no barrier to being a fucking weirdo.

When you've one that's basically actively encouraging assaults then it's considerably worse though.

ItalAussie
23-09-2017, 08:37 AM
The bike riders are everywhere in Sydney, as well. I've never really used it, because there's a dozen good places I can get to within five minutes form my door, and they don't normally tell you how long it will take to get your delivery until after you've ordered. Got hit by that one a couple of times.

Uber's great though. It's just so much more convenient than cabs. You press a couple of buttons, and they know where you are and where you want to go. No need to flag someone down, or talk to a dispatcher. If cabs want to compete, they need to get as convenient as Uber. Seems simple enough.

Giggles
23-09-2017, 08:48 AM
I thought everyone had the same system for taxis so it worked like Uber. We've had 3 different services for the proper taxis for years now (open app, closest taxi is X minutes away, click pick me up on the map, and you get a live notification on the phone on how far the car is away or you can watch it on the map). Unfortunately though the main one was bought out and went to shit recently but hopefully the others can work in on their base now.

Kikó
23-09-2017, 08:53 AM
It seems you guys must be more advanced than the Brits.

Giggles
23-09-2017, 09:18 AM
It seems you guys must be more advanced than the Brits.

I'd imagine it's because it's a much smaller market. Most towns outside Dublin barely have taxis.

That said I was replying to an Australian, I was under the impression that Britain already used Hailo.

Jimmy Floyd
23-09-2017, 09:41 AM
The choice for me (just outside London) is Uber or the dodgy blokes who line up at the station. Uber obviously significantly better value even though the latter don't anywhere near reach black cabs levels of ripping you off.

Kikó
23-09-2017, 09:50 AM
The best thing about uber is you don't need to direct the driver.

Oh and you don't need to hear racism either.

Jimmy Floyd
23-09-2017, 10:03 AM
I heard some world class racism in a taxi a while back. Something about no wonder the other drivers have brown faces as they obviously clean them as often as they clean their cars.

Magic
23-09-2017, 10:29 AM
X street please.
Where is that?
I don't know, I'm not from around here.
*silence*

Hate that.

Lewis
23-09-2017, 10:59 AM
On the racism, the idea that Uber is staffed entirely by illegals and rapist illegals (which seems to be why Nigel Farage and other nominal 'right-wingers' are against it) seems to have gained a fair bit of traction with people who probably refused to believe the stories about those Islamic school takeovers.

Yevrah
23-09-2017, 11:06 AM
I don't spend much time in London so I've never used Uber, but what is it that makes them so good?

Have we really been getting taxis wrong all these years and what's next? Are the Uber owners going to tell us where we're going wrong with sandwiches too?

phonics
23-09-2017, 11:14 AM
On the racism, the idea that Uber is staffed entirely by illegals and rapist illegals (which seems to be why Nigel Farage and other nominal 'right-wingers' are against it) seems to have gained a fair bit of traction with people who probably refused to believe the stories about those Islamic school takeovers.

Didn't that Islamic school takeover story get confirmed to be total bollocks?

Yevrah
23-09-2017, 11:17 AM
Didn't that Islamic school takeover story get confirmed to be total bollocks?

No, it didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Horse#Detailed_findings

Queenslander
23-09-2017, 11:29 AM
Uber works for me in Brisbane. A $25 cab driven by a dodgy looking Arab or Indian gets me to the same place a $12 Uber driven by dodgy looking Arab or Indian.

GS
23-09-2017, 11:33 AM
The bike riders are everywhere in Sydney, as well. I've never really used it, because there's a dozen good places I can get to within five minutes form my door, and they don't normally tell you how long it will take to get your delivery until after you've ordered. Got hit by that one a couple of times.

Uber's great though. It's just so much more convenient than cabs. You press a couple of buttons, and they know where you are and where you want to go. No need to flag someone down, or talk to a dispatcher. If cabs want to compete, they need to get as convenient as Uber. Seems simple enough.

Competing would require significantly reducing their fares, which they can't or won't do. There are reasons for this - the cost of becoming a taxi driver is reasonably prohibitive (the link isn't the best, but will suffice as an overview - here (https://www.quotesearcher.co.uk/insurance-blog/the-cost-of-becoming-a-taxi-driver/)). They also have to learn 'The Knowledge' (here (https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/taxis-and-private-hire/licensing/learn-the-knowledge-of-london)), which can take a few years.

The business model is completely out-dated. It's from a time when you a) couldn't use any other 'convenient' service because there was no suitable mechanism for accessing and ordering that service and b) before Sat-Nav when the driver actually needed to know where he was going rather than plugging it into a computer and following the instructions. Nowadays you can summon a car on an app - the driver can use his own car and plug the address into a Sat-Nav.

The fact is that the black cabs are rip-offs and are peddling an out-dated, over-priced business model to consumers. The reason why they haven't disappeared to competitors like Uber is because they're unionised and can thus exert significant political pressure (see also, the RMT Union basically holding London to ransom because TfL suggest that computers and machines can probably replace people at ticket booths) with a degree of confidence that they'll succeed.

It's not a question of 'improving the service' so they can 'compete'. The only way it's going to survive and / or sustain itself is if it locks other competitors out and forces the consumer to use it because there's no other viable alternative or choice.

You can insert a generic anti-left wing political point here if you wish.

Pepe
23-09-2017, 11:37 AM
I don't spend much time in London so I've never used Uber, but what is it that makes them so good?

Two things: Less time interacting with people in exchange of more time interacting with a screen and lower prices.

The first one we can't argue against, although as Giggles say, regular cabs are starting to wise up and offer similar services. As for the latter, they only achieve that via two things: One is ignoring every law they don't like in every place they set up and the other is by having a massive financial backing from Silicon Valley which allows them to run at a loss. The first advantage is disappearing as cities wise up and stand against it. The second one, we'll see how long they're willing to wait to see if they can crush all competition. In any case, whether investors become tired of throwing money away or they achieve monopoly status, the prices will inevitably go up.

Magic
23-09-2017, 11:38 AM
It did and it didn't. Come on Wiki ffs? You're not phonics.

Kikó
23-09-2017, 11:39 AM
And black cabs are a shit form of transport compared to illegal Pete's Mercedes.

Pepe
23-09-2017, 11:39 AM
The business model is completely out-dated. It's from a time when you a) couldn't use any other 'convenient' service because there was no suitable mechanism for accessing and ordering that service and b) before Sat-Nav when the driver actually needed to know where he was going rather than plugging it into a computer and following the instructions.

c) businesses needed to follow the law and d) actually be profitable.

Lewis
23-09-2017, 11:40 AM
That sounds a bit like Amazon. Nobody seems to feel as strongly about that; but then people probably use that more.

Kikó
23-09-2017, 11:42 AM
Amazon are another unscrupulous bunch of arseholes.

Pepe
23-09-2017, 11:43 AM
That sounds a bit like Amazon. Nobody seems to feel as strongly about that; but then people probably use that more.

I do fucking feel strongly about that.

Some of your right-wing friends do too (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/amazon-facebook-google-conservative-anti-monopoly-movement/), before GS comes and lecture us about THE LEFT.

Lewis
23-09-2017, 11:48 AM
Those subsidies are a joke (as they are with lots of other things), but the rest of it isn't worth worrying about.

Yevrah
23-09-2017, 11:49 AM
Two things: Less time interacting with people in exchange of more time interacting with a screen and lower prices.

The first one we can't argue against, although as Giggles say, regular cabs are starting to wise up and offer similar services. As for the latter, they only achieve that via two things: One is ignoring every law they don't like in every place they set up and the other is by having a massive financial backing from Silicon Valley which allows them to run at a loss. The first advantage is disappearing as cities wise up and stand against it. The second one, we'll see how long they're willing to wait to see if they can crush all competition. In any case, whether investors become tired of throwing money away or they achieve monopoly status, the prices will inevitably go up.

Cost I can't really argue on, but "less time interacting with people"? How much interaction is involved in flagging a cab down and telling the driver where you want to go? Have we really reached the level where that's too much hassle? Jesus.

Kikó
23-09-2017, 11:59 AM
You're forgetting how much taxi drivers are cunts as well tbh. The less interaction the better.

Yevrah
23-09-2017, 12:06 PM
And the biggest pain as far as that's concerned is when you're stuck in the cab with them and they won't shut up, a problem, which presumably Uber doesn't solve at all.

Kikó
23-09-2017, 12:07 PM
They can't speak English mate. It's great.

Magic
23-09-2017, 12:10 PM
You're forgetting how much taxi drivers are cunts as well tbh. The less interaction the better.

It's hard to hold that against them given the amount of shit they probably have to put up with.

Giggles
23-09-2017, 12:10 PM
Too working class m8.

Lewis
23-09-2017, 12:11 PM
Me and my friend got a taxi (not enough illegals for Uber here) back from town the other night, and, in what must represent the worst of all worlds, it was driven by a woman who wouldn't shut up about life as a woman taxi driver.

Magic
23-09-2017, 12:14 PM
I remember outside ER this guy stopped in the peacock and 3 of us got in, an Islamic, and he asked us where to (town). As we were going I realised there was no meter or any other distinguishing feature to mark it out as a taxi. It cost us a tenner but I'm pretty sure it was a guy making a quick buck/on the prowl.

ItalAussie
23-09-2017, 01:24 PM
You can insert a generic anti-left wing political point here if you wish.
Wait, what? At least wait until I engage with you before being a dick. No need for pre-emptive strikes.

igor_balis
23-09-2017, 01:50 PM
Almost all my lefty mates are happy to use Uber, myself included, but that's probably just because we're all massive hypocrites. Also I almost only ever need a cab in a city when it's like 4am, I'm shitfaced and staggering around near some shit nightclub and uber is just so much easier. I still get nightmares about coming out of Bumper in Liverpool and waiting about an hour for my taxi to arrive when I was at uni, and usually some cunt ends up taking the one I ordered. Me and my mates once had to wait by the bombed out church for 2 fucking hours (in retrospect we should have just walked, but it didn't feel like an option in the states we were in). When I went back there recently, in very similar circumstances it arrived in about 5 minutes.

It's also nice having polite, quiet brown men rather than angry bald white men.

GS
23-09-2017, 02:52 PM
c) businesses needed to follow the law and d) actually be profitable.

What?


Wait, what? At least wait until I engage with you before being a dick. No need for pre-emptive strikes.

I was using your post as a launchpad to make a point, rather than directing the entire thing at you. It wasn't a personal dig.

Pepe
23-09-2017, 04:43 PM
Me and my friend got a taxi (not enough illegals for Uber here) back from town the other night, and, in what must represent the worst of all worlds, it was driven by a woman who wouldn't shut up about life as a woman taxi driver.

:D

Waiting for you, that one.

The only time I've used a taxi in the past five years or so was when my car broke down. Driver was a bit of a geezer. He spent the whole ride telling us his recipes. All of them involved deep frying and copious amounts of cream.

phonics
23-09-2017, 05:05 PM
What?

Ubers had this treatment from several places due to not adhering to basic employment law. They also made a loss of 2.8 billion last year. Made a 700 million loss in Q1 etc. etc.

Shindig
23-09-2017, 05:16 PM
I've not been following it closely but didn't they also knick some tech from somebody?

GS
23-09-2017, 09:26 PM
Ubers had this treatment from several places due to not adhering to basic employment law. They also made a loss of 2.8 billion last year. Made a 700 million loss in Q1 etc. etc.

That's irrelevant to the point being made.

Yevrah
23-09-2017, 09:59 PM
Some women are upset by the news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41365995

Again, how did society function pre-Uber? Have rapes gone down since its introduction? Have we all run mad?

Giggles
23-09-2017, 10:01 PM
Nah they just want Uber and are using the new found 'women are the whole world' stance in society as an ace in their deck.

GS
23-09-2017, 10:01 PM
Someone will presumably suggest women-only taxis as a solution, only to be confronted with the no-doubt-dreadful conundrum of what happens when a six foot bloke with a one foot beard decides to 'identify' as a woman in order to avail of the service.

The country's fucked whilst that lot are about, so we might as well just seal London off and float it out into the sea. That should take 80% of them out, and it's only a matter of time until the rest of them give up.

niko_cee
23-09-2017, 10:18 PM
Not feeling comfortable getting the night bus is quite funny. For the love of jesus. The kids really aren't alright.

There are so many good quotes in there though.

Just phone up Addison Lee or god knows who else, I presume there are a myriad of private hire providers doing basically the same thing. Where are the tears for the many victims of Uber's exploitative practices? Oh, that's ok, I get a cheap ride home. They can get fucked, as can much of the 'disruption' set to largely wreck the course of human existence over the coming years.

Given the choice, I'll take the cabbie over the 26 year old marketing manager.

Yevrah
23-09-2017, 10:25 PM
It comes as no surprise that people's morals only extend to the point where it doesn't inconvenience them.

GS
23-09-2017, 10:27 PM
It comes as no surprise that people's morals only extend to the point where it doesn't inconvenience them.

:nodd:

The Conservatives should be hammering this sort of thing home, as it's a useful example of the end-game if the pinko brigade got power.

phonics
10-11-2017, 11:44 AM
They lost that Employment Rights case

https://www.yahoo.com/news/uber-loses-employment-rights-case-britain-lawyers-111037561.html


(https://www.yahoo.com/news/uber-loses-employment-rights-case-britain-lawyers-111037561.html)

Magic
10-11-2017, 12:11 PM
Dat thread title tho. :drool:

Pepe
10-11-2017, 01:18 PM
"The main reason why drivers use Uber is because they value the freedom to choose if, when and where they drive and so we intend to appeal,"

Sure.

Lewis
10-11-2017, 01:37 PM
They would presumably just be taxi drivers otherwise.

Spikey M
10-11-2017, 02:21 PM
"The main reason why drivers use Uber is because they value the freedom to choose if, when and where they drive and so we intend to appeal,"

Sure.

It most likely is to a large extent. What’s the beef?

Pepe
10-11-2017, 03:01 PM
The 'beef' is to pretend that they're all about freedomz so that they can avoid labor laws. For the benefit of their drivers, of course.

Spikey M
10-11-2017, 03:23 PM
They’re all forrins anyway.

Lewis
19-02-2021, 01:09 PM
Is this 'Poober' decision going to blow the courier racket to pieces? I think I would actually lol if it did.

Magic
19-02-2021, 01:17 PM
Poober. :drool:

Spikey M
19-02-2021, 01:20 PM
If it does then alot of people supplementing their cushy Furlouged existence are going to get fucked. :drool:

Lewis
19-02-2021, 01:25 PM
I remember reading something a while ago that represented all these things - Uber, Deliveroo, etc. that burn through money - as a gigantic subsidy for city-dwellers set to leave people high and dry when they either failed or reached their eventual monopolistic cash-in stage.

Raoul Duke
19-02-2021, 03:37 PM
Good thread on it here: https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1292828683489538049?lang=en