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John Arne
25-04-2017, 06:46 AM
I read stuff like this and it baffles me...

In response to the colossal dickhead that is Ilie Nasatase saying this about Serena Williams unborn baby...



Let’s see what colour it has. Chocolate with milk


Serena Williams responded;



It disappoints me to know we live in a society in which people like Ilie Nastase can make such racist comments towards myself and unborn child


How on earth is this racist? Williams is black, her boyfriend is white, the obvious implication being that the baby will be a mix of the two. Yeah, obviously, it's not a particularly witty or intelligent comment... but it's just a shit joke based on the fact that the baby will be a mix of two races.

If I have a kid with my missus, it's going to be half white, half yellow with slightly slanty eyes and a hated of Americans.

I hate to go all Mert.... but is Williams being a bit of a snowflake here? Nastase isn't discriminating against anyone, he isn't judging people simply based on their skin colour - he's just being a bit of a tit.

Kikó
25-04-2017, 06:49 AM
Williams can make the joke, not Nastase. The man is a grade A prick by the sounds of it.

Magic
25-04-2017, 06:58 AM
I'd have said Americano with milk.

Offshore Toon
25-04-2017, 07:21 AM
I think it's more to do with him bringing up the skin colour. It isn't important, yet there's the quote.

John Arne
25-04-2017, 07:27 AM
I think it's more to do with him bringing up the skin colour. It isn't important, yet there's the quote.

Understand where you are coming from, but could just as easily flip that and that the colour isn't important, therefore, commenting on it isn't important - just as you would make a comment on red hair, or a fat baby - mentioning the colour is somewhat normalising it, which of course is it.

I've just seen the comments about him asking for their room number :D He really is a complete tool. Perhaps, I'm backing the wrong horse to run my race here.

Offshore Toon
25-04-2017, 08:22 AM
If you start normalising that type of discussion, people will start wondering why skin colour makes a difference. There are too many people that would turn that into hate discussion, so we kinda have to move towards not recognising it and hope that one day it won't be seen as a thing.

Adamski
25-04-2017, 08:23 AM
Perhaps, I'm backing the wrong horse to run my race here.

Somehow about Liverpool.

Dquincy
25-04-2017, 10:25 AM
The question is, why does it matter what colour (or variation of chocolate) the baby comes out? It's a question that shouldn't be asked.

All that matters is it will have a cracking backhand.

John Arne
25-04-2017, 10:40 AM
It doesn't matter, but that doesn't mean that you can't or shouldn't ask or guess. Avoiding talking about it just seems completely bizarre to me. It doesn't matter whether the baby will be fat or skinny, boy or girl - yet we still talk about these things. I really don't see the problem in talking about the probable colour of a baby. It's a bit weird talking about a completely random kid, as in this instance, of course - but to twist his comments as racist is just taking offence for the sake of it.

Lewis
25-04-2017, 10:57 AM
'It disappoints me to know we live in a society in which people like Ilie Nastase can make such racist comments towards myself and unborn child'. He's seventy and Romanian, love. I don't think it says a lot about society.

Smiffy
25-04-2017, 11:24 AM
The implication was there when he said it. Age and nationality has anything to do with it as he knew what he was saying, it wasn't as though it was an off the cuff remark.

The sad thing is that these things are the ones that get reported so it appears as though it's a big issue amongst the masses when it's a tiny minority. You give them exposure, it increases everything tenfold.

Offshore Toon
25-04-2017, 11:47 AM
If somebody asked me about a baby I wouldn't comment on whether it would be fat or skinny. But if I did, it'd probably be to offend the mother.

Shindig
25-04-2017, 06:42 PM
Nadia Komenech's defence of him was brilliant.

"It's Illie. C'mon. It's Ilie."

John
25-04-2017, 07:06 PM
He's obviously an arsehole, but Serena Williams calls racism on anything she doesn't like so he could have speculated on the baby's gender and she'd have found a way to spin it as a slur.

Raoul Duke
26-04-2017, 06:47 AM
I'm sure a bunch of white guys can crack this issue

John Arne
26-04-2017, 07:19 AM
I'm sure a bunch of white guys can crack this issue

White men have feelings, too.

Offshore Toon
26-04-2017, 10:33 AM
Dismissing what white men think brought us Brexit and Trump.

Pepe
26-04-2017, 01:06 PM
Who are you calling white?