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Probably for the best, I was even less use than usual this time round. Go team!
This is where it becomes disheartening. I've wrote that post last night and nobody except for Browning even bothered to acknowledge it. You all moan about this every time and yet here we are again.
I repeat: can someone please tell me why I'm suddenly prime suspect?
You voted for the winner of the lynching phase stating that you were doing so to protect yourself from being lynched when you had three votes and Niko had 5. Voting for Vim (3) or Matt (3) would have protected you from being lynched, but again you chose to lump on the guy with the most votes. Just like you did with Hammer a couple of nights back. Again you could have voted for someone else (Pepe) and not been as suspicious. In both cases a night kill was carried out. The day you abstained, nobody got killed at night. So really, it all adds up. You must be Burnham number 2.
Your displaying fairly standard desperate wolf behaviour - Panda-style is how I refer to it after that game with him as the wolf and Mellin as the seer. :D People have good reason to suspect you because of your Burnham-esque voting.
Boydy
06-10-2015, 11:59 AM
Crying about how the game is being played is always a wolf defence, isn't it?
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0912/0912/pictures.of.the.year.1207/images/90111194(2).jpg
:harold:
Benny
06-10-2015, 12:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HNqhFbC.gif
Browning
06-10-2015, 12:27 PM
Throwing it out there, but somebody please tell me I'm being stupid.
We've got both Mahow and Byron here displaying behavior that implies they are the seeer. There is only 1. Both of them are among the 5...
I'm not entirely comfortable with that situation.
Given that I'm not sure we can go with a double lynch. If one of them is a Wolf, they know who Corbyn is... and could easily be trying to lead us to lynch him.
I might be being stupid or have missed something, but at least throwing this out there might help.
Mahow isn't a seer, he's just being Mahow.
7om deleting posts to complete the cycle of seethe.
I posted a picture in response to those pictures but it didn't work.
We've got both Mahow and Byron here displaying behavior that implies they are the seeer. There is only 1. Both of them are among the 5...
Mahow isn't a seer. He spotted Maz's bluff perfectly but has also wasted time hounding out Pepe and Niko. Byron, I think, should be the real deal.
bruhnaldo
06-10-2015, 01:19 PM
son of a bitch of course you guys start this when i can't access the site :( :( :(
Have you all just given up then?
Have you all just given up then?
No, we're just waiting for you to close nominations and give us the formatted list of nominated people to underline and bolden.
7om - Matt
What we need to do is to make sure 7om ends up on the losing side. Ideas for how to do that? Get Mahow to watch him like a hawk at 8:59?
Okay.
Matt
Oh, wait... Stop being lazy twats and do something, Merse deserves a bit more effort than this.
Ah, 7om was actually nominated. I'm on my phone and must have scrolled past that. Three times. Apologies.
7om - Matt
7om - Matt
I'm not Burnham
Please, bro, I'm begging.
Browning
06-10-2015, 03:50 PM
7om - Matt
Yep.
If you guys are convinced that Byron is the seer (keep in mind, Wolves are also easily able to rattle off long lists of innocents... but never mind) then we should be aiming for the double here. If you're not then 7om is the safer choice, so I'll go with that, but won't be disappointed if we end up with a double. He's not absolutely nailed on as Burnham, as everyone seems to think, but it is the most likely.
Browning
06-10-2015, 03:51 PM
Makes it 3-2, for the record.
Boydy
06-10-2015, 04:00 PM
Is the double not really risky as the wolves could just switch at the last minute?
Browning
06-10-2015, 04:05 PM
If they're both wolves, then not really. At worst we get 1 of them. But that's a big if. Everyone seems convinced 7om must be Burnham, and Byron has told us we have to get Matt this round. Really I'm happy to go with the consensus, but I'll just leave my vote as it is and whatever happens, happens.
Boydy
06-10-2015, 04:12 PM
7om - Matt
Alright, try to get both then. I can change later if needs be.
Yeah, both should really be lynched though it might be difficult to orchestrate. Of course, wolves might not want to change votes late on if that basically gives them away.
How many more of Corbyn's friends do the wolves need to off before they can kill Corbyn and win?
Yeah, both should really be lynched though it might be difficult to orchestrate. Of course, wolves might not want to change votes late on if that basically gives them away.
How many more of Corbyn's friends do the wolves need to off before they can kill Corbyn and win?
There's 6 friends now. Rules state 7 or less. He's getting offed tonight unless we make sure 7om ends up on the losing side. Oh and we still have Dave or whoever that can protect him. Hopefully he isn't one of the inactive lot. Don't forget Burnham and chums must kill Sturgeon too, so at best we have lots and lots of time, at worst we could lose tomorrow night.
Byron
06-10-2015, 04:58 PM
Not sure if Sturgeon has the investigative powers.
What's the plan this round then?
We're spreading the votes between Burnham and his chum. 3-3 at the moment.
Demerit
06-10-2015, 05:24 PM
7om - Matt
I'll go for Matt, a double won't work if they're both wolves though unless they're all offline come 9pm. (Vote switching etc etc)
If 7om is Burnham he'll vote for himself last minute to save Matt, get a wolf kill and make us waste another night on Matt.
Browning
06-10-2015, 05:39 PM
Then put Matt 1 vote up. 7om then has the choice between losing his kill and surviving, or dying for a kill.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-10-2015, 05:52 PM
7om - Matt
Alright Burnie.
Byron
06-10-2015, 05:55 PM
7om - Matt
Keep Matt just a shade ahead.
7om - Matt
Is it equal now?
Then put Matt 1 vote up. 7om then has the choice between losing his kill and surviving, or dying for a kill.
7om has already voted Matt so you'd need two votes in it if you're worried about switching.
Byron
06-10-2015, 06:00 PM
Yeah, 5-5
Browning
06-10-2015, 06:01 PM
That's my point. If Matt is up by 1, 7om can't switch without killing himself off.
2 votes in it would mean a 7om switch would lead to a double, which may be more ideal.
Depends which scenario people would prefer.
That's my point. If Matt is up by 1, 7om can't switch without killing himself off.
2 votes in it would mean a 7om switch would lead to a double, which may be more ideal.
Depends which scenario people would prefer.
7om switching takes one off Matt and adds one to himself, so e.g. 6-5 just becomes 5-6. It needs to be 6-4 so that 7om can only switch to make it even.
Just read your second line - I assumed you meant a double all along, doesn't seem worth fretting about unless we're gunning for that.
Browning
06-10-2015, 06:04 PM
Matt - 7om
I would like to change my vote from 7om to Matt.
There, now Matt is 2 ahead. If people prefer the 1 ahead strategy, let's just have 1 more person vote 7om, and leave it there.
That said, Matt's own vote may complicate things. We'll see.
That's good, Browning. Excellent.
Browning
06-10-2015, 06:14 PM
[QUOTE=Browning;12105]
Matt - 7om
I would like to change my vote from Matt to 7om
- - -
I've had a nightmare there, not sure what I was thinking. If Matt's ahead by 1 then 7om can sit there and survive AND get his kill. Therefore my last few posts are total bollocks.
Back to 5-5.
Waiting on Igor, Panda, Pleb, Vim and Matt himself.
Do I want to break the tie?
Yep stick it on 7om and let's watch him crawl over to vote himself to death.
7om- Matt
He does seem the more likely of the two to try some last minute vote switching. He's actually here, for one.
That makes it 6-5.
Notice how quiet he's been since we've laughed off his defence.
He's probably got something written in the reply box waiting for 8:59.
Panda Bear
06-10-2015, 07:50 PM
7om - Matt
7-5. Try and duck that, 7om.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-10-2015, 07:53 PM
Yeah Zom, you dirty piece of shit.
Panda Bear
06-10-2015, 07:54 PM
We're all prepared to out 8:59 him, right? By all switching our votes to Matt right as he switches to himself?
If he switches he takes Matt down with him in a double. :drool:
Think over that again, P3.
7om - Matt
I'm not going to vote for myself when I'm not a wolf am I
Matt - 7om
I would like to change my vote from Matt to the one now indicated above.
Matt - 7om
I would like to change my vote from Matt to 7om
Byron
06-10-2015, 08:04 PM
So, 7om to die then? As long as Matt goes next.
They may have really shot themselves in the foot if 7om was Burnham and the role now transfers to the final wolf. We orchestrate the Matt lynching, spreading the votes and using the known roles we have to cut down on any shortlist, and it's close to game over.
If it transfers to Matt they're lucky, and if 7om wasn't Burnham then, well... balls.
Panda Bear
06-10-2015, 08:10 PM
As of the end of the voting phase, the remaining players are:
Igor Balis
Panda
SVN
Byron
Boydy
Mahow
Vim
Browning
Cjay
P3
Demerit
Pleb
Toby
Matt
14 players. We'll probably see Byron die tonight (:(), bringing us down to 13, then we have Matt to lynch to bring us down to 12. That leaves the remaining wolf to consider whether to night kill based upon the number of people voting for Matt, so we would be entering either a 11:1 or 10:1 ratio of villager:wolf. :drool: It would take a Mahow-like super performance to win in these conditions given the Burnham lynch clause.
If Byron is confirmed as Corbyn those four he mentioned will be removed from the list, then we can go through the remainders and knock them down to a manageable number.
It's been a pleasure, chaps. See you next time.
Panda Bear
06-10-2015, 08:25 PM
Fuck is that wolf ever screwed. He can't win if the four villagers survive to the end, but he can't kill the villagers without outing himself in the lynch votes due to the split and contain strategy.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-10-2015, 08:27 PM
You're in a real pickle, aren't you Panda?
Boydy
06-10-2015, 08:30 PM
I bet Merse is drunk.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-10-2015, 08:31 PM
I'd be stunned if he was sober.
Browning
06-10-2015, 08:34 PM
All the wolf needs to do is hit Sturgeon and it's game over. He doesn't need to kill everyone.
I see Panda's coming out of the woodwork as he becomes the last man standing :D
Panda Bear
06-10-2015, 09:07 PM
I came out of the woodwork during the Niko round!
The Merse
06-10-2015, 09:21 PM
He's probably got something written in the reply box waiting for 8:59.
:sleep:
Fell asleep before eight on account of full blast heating and 4 hours kip last night.
Now that a piss has woken me from my slumber I'll get the write ups sorted.
Demerit
06-10-2015, 09:31 PM
Anyone else find Toby's vote change a bit odd?
Like.. 7om's a wolf, we've all assumed he's the current Burnham, Toby switches to make sure that Burnham has voted for 7om, 7om switches to make it look like he's Burnham..
Toby is Burnham?
I did it for a laugh because it was all over anyway. I thought others would have done similar tbh. I think if you've paid any attention it's obvious I'm not Burnham.
Browning
06-10-2015, 09:38 PM
The NEW 5 are: Mahow, Byron, Demerit, CJay, 7om
So we should probably get another 2 or so from that list up, although I'm fairly sure it'll be a 7om landslide. Obviously we need to let the other 4 have options to vote for, just so we can be absolutely certain.
How many friends of Corbyn are left? I assume he's vulnerable now, but could the Wolves have killed him there, or not?
He's right, he's not Burnham.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 09:57 PM
Michael Meecher is tonight fighting for his freedom after being turned over to Police investigating Operation Yewtree. One of his parties most senior figures, it was surely no surprise that Meecher would be on the potential nonce list, albeit his detection came through unconventional sources. It was Andy Burnham who took the credit for his colleagues plight, having originally been subject to probes from his own party, Burnham apparently worked tirelessly not to evidence his own innocence, but towards the altogether more productive end of finding the true culprit and caught Meecher himself, handing over his evidence to Police sometime last night.
7OM is Michael Meecher, Ally of Burnham
Diane Abbot was a bitch.
A mean, not at all lean, political fighting machine.
This was rather unfortunate for her adversaries.
Tonight, she’s in the Westminster bar, throwing back Dirty Martini’s at quite the rate.
Only, she wasn’t there for a cocktail or a good time. She was analysing her suspects, looking for a clue. ‘Who dropped me and Tom in it? Who nearly saw me killed? Who is trying to take us back to the Dark Ages?’.
Then she saw him. The varnished, newly tanned figure of Alastair Campbell, talking freely to several minions – minions that had distanced themselves from the rest of the party of late. Burnham, Hoey, Lord Foulkes…
That must be it.
Abbott waited.
One of the Campbell disciples left the group, heading for the bathroom.
Abbott waited no longer.
Following Kate Hoey into the bathroom, she locked the door behind them and began her interrogation. ‘How did he know? Who gave the instruction? Who went to the PLO?’….
Only Hoey wasn’t talking.
The sports nut found herself being beaten by Abbot, her face smashing against porcelain on numerous occasions until the life had completely drained from it.
Abbott came to her senses. She had to leave, but how? She was covered in blood?
It was the first time Jeremy Corbyn has inspected the women’s lavatories. He clutched the hand of his trusted ally, and told her to go.
He’d sort this. ‘Go’.
Abbot’s flustered disappearance had come to the attention of a certain scouser.
As Abbott left, Burnham entered the toilet. Expecting to find Hoey breaking down about her involvement, he was shocked to find Jeremy Corbyn instead attempting to hide the evidence of her violent death…
‘Jeremy? But…’
‘I don’t imagine I can talk my way out of this one Andy?’
‘No, Jeremy, I don’t imagine you will…’
Diane Abbot has used her silver bullet
Matt is Kate Hoey, Ally of Burnham
Byron was Jeremy Corbyn
It is day. Nominations by 3pm, votes by 9pm please folks.
To give our Burnham at least a modicum of a chance, in case you lot really turn the screw...
Should a player be lynched by five votes or less, Burnham gets his kill for free, as a minority issue, regardless of which way he votes that night.
Lol at Tom making it this far.
You better not have been the one who made the call to kill me. :panda:
That unexpected Abbot kill has probably done us more harm than good as it removes the obvious option for tonight.
If we trust Byron's judgements - and I for one do - we should have the four he says aren't wolves vote for our lynchee. That shortens any Burnham shortlist to two or three.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-10-2015, 10:04 PM
Merse, if I was you I'd be fucking seething at Magic.
He pretty much gave his/Matt's role away.
What is that silver bullet thing by the way? I don't see it mentioned in the OP.
Also Merse you mean lynched with a total of less than 5 votes or by a margin of less than 5 votes? I assume it's the former but just making sure.
Sir Andy Mahowry
06-10-2015, 10:05 PM
Also, leave Toby, Igor, Mahow and Vim alone. Sure they're not wolves.
Bumping this...
Browning
06-10-2015, 10:05 PM
When was a "Silver bullet" even mentioned? Had no idea that was there.
Also no idea why Dave didn't save Byron... but at least we've still got that.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 10:05 PM
Total of less than 5 votes. Edit Vim.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 10:06 PM
When was a "Silver bullet" even mentioned? Had no idea that was there.
Also no idea why Dave didn't save Byron... but at least we've still got that.
It wasn't public. It was late addition to the Corbyn camp just before Day 1 as a balancer that was kept secret. Didn't think the wolves would fuck up so many times, mind.
Dave's Independent. Obviously didn't fancy it.
RIP Byron Corbyn, you've done a good job, even if you did waste a turn investigating Igor. :p
Browning
06-10-2015, 10:12 PM
How many nominees do we want this time then?
Panda Bear
06-10-2015, 10:17 PM
We have 13 people left, and we know Matt is a wolf.
We probably want to have two nominees, and then landslide on Matt in voting to avoid the equal to or less than 5 clause from activating.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 10:22 PM
The Sun Accused of Inaccuracy
In a bizarre twist, Sky News today reports an accusation of inaccuracy on fellow News International Group outlet, The Scottish Sun. In their now infamous 'Pepegate' expose, The Sun had intimated the involvement of a Premier League footballer as a patsy. The Scottish Sun had gone one step further - naming three potential suspects. Following pressure from the Scottish Parliament executive office, The Scottish Sun have today issued an apologies to those it named in the report.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 10:26 PM
I'd be stunned if he was sober.
I bet Merse is drunk.
Stone cold sober. On call this week :cry: and not willing to risk it anymore after sleeping through a call out a little while back... Luckily not a critical one...
So we have one wolf, but nothing left to go on? So we need to start from scratch with a group of 3 / 4 and then that'll give us the list of potential Burnhams. Right?
This is far too confusing for me.
So presumably Murdoch now knows who Sturgeon is.
So we have one wolf, but nothing left to go on? So we need to start from scratch with a group of 3 / 4 and then that'll give us the list of potential Burnhams. Right?
This is far too confusing for me.
Essentially yes, but we have four people we know to be innocent and should add them to the lynching group so that the shortlist is minimised.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 10:29 PM
So presumably Murdoch now knows who Sturgeon is.
Murdoch see's what you do, albeit, he knows who has been investigated. The clues to that would be in the article, though they may be perverse in their logic.
I think I have an idea who it is and if it is that person the village may well be fucked.
I've got an idea. How about only the four safe villagers nominate and vote? Leaves Burnham to do nothing but hope they hit Sturgeon.
EDIT: Forgot the new rule Merse added. :doh:
The Merse
06-10-2015, 10:39 PM
Did you read the end of the write up?
Read the whole of the page and tell us if you still think that's a good idea.
P_3
Panda Bear
06-10-2015, 10:40 PM
Matt is dead, Panda.
Oh.
Yeah, I suppose he is.
Read it, but in the excitement at my genius, forgot about it.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 10:42 PM
Did you read the end of the write up?
Should a player be lynched by five votes or less, Burnham gets his kill for free, as a minority issue, regardless of which way he votes that night.
Also Merse you mean lynched with a total of less than 5 votes or by a margin of less than 5 votes? I assume it's the former but just making sure.
Total of less than 5 votes. Edit Vim.
Edit - Ah fair one P_3
Browning
06-10-2015, 10:43 PM
In what way would that help us anyway? We need to find who Burnham is. Everybody not voting (even without the 5 votes thing) would mean he can't kill someone, but would also mean we're no closer to narrowing it down.
Kill P_3 for making rubbish suggestions!
http://www.thisweekinstupid.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/simpsons-angry-mob.jpg
My two cents on two people we can add to the safe list:
Browning: Voted for Hammer in the third phase alongside Maz and 7om. 3 wolves on one lowly villager doesn't compute.
Pleb: Has been fairly inactive. If he pops up tomorrow, then suspicions will arise, but I don't think he's the last wolf.
Found another one I'd like to be pronounced safe. Despite being a bit suspicious of his actions earlier, I think Boydy's safe due to phase 4, the Vim and Maz phase. Maz and Matt (playing Magic's role) voted for Vim. In between their two votes Boydy cast his for Vim too. A Vim 123 of wolf votes? Really can't see it.
The Merse
06-10-2015, 11:20 PM
Nigel Farage sat back and pondered the nights events.
His plan had failed. He wanted to see Corbyn's allies reduced to almost non-existence, he also needed Corbyn as a Euro sceptic ally, to survive.
Now the question was - would he look to support the usurpers, and damage Labour for his parties gain, or would seek to take down the enemies of Corbyn, in the hope that he would be replaced by a similar isolationist?
Nigel Farage has failed his win conditions.
Well that was unexpected
Cheers merse
Are we all too afraid to nominate?
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure who is the last wolf.
Almost 3pm so we need someone up. Who's on the "not a wolf" list?
Also, leave Toby, Igor, Mahow and Vim alone. Sure they're not wolves.
This is what Byron posted.
The Merse
07-10-2015, 02:37 PM
Right. Deadline missed. Not even one person on there. You've got an hour to get two names up or random villager kill it is.
Boydy
07-10-2015, 02:50 PM
I nominate Vim (first nomination)
Fuck the colour, I'm on my phone.
Jimmy Floyd
07-10-2015, 03:05 PM
Mon wolfie, bring it home.
I nominate Vim (second nomination, first nomination by Boydy)
What? I'm on the seer's no-wolf list you muppet.
I nominate Cjay (first nomination)
I nominate Cjay (second nomination)
Not a wolf but we need to get someone up.
I nominate Vim (first nomination)
Fuck the colour, I'm on my phone.
I nominate Vim (second nomination, first nomination by Boydy)
Why?
Oh whoops. Dunno, I panicked wanting someone up. :D
The Merse
07-10-2015, 04:14 PM
Right, that's your nominees.
Cjay and Vim.
Votes in 9 please people.
If this inactivity continues then do remember, your gifting Burnham a kill.
Vim - Cjay
Right, the four named by Byron vote for Cjay, then we just need two more to vote. That way Burnham has to be either between the last two, or sacrifice his kill. If he's between the last two then we do a double lynch next round and it's game.
The Merse
07-10-2015, 04:24 PM
Deadline set in stone tonight by the way. I very nearly just killed a villager, asked Burnham for his choice and moved on with my life.
It won't be the same case again. I'm not being arsey, but if the wolves miss their deadline they miss their kill, and the village need no favours at this stage.
Well I'm not a wolf, so at least try and figure out who Burnham is based on this.
Browning
07-10-2015, 05:13 PM
Vim - Cjay
Keeping it close in the interest of the town. CJay should die here, unfortunately, but it shouldn't be a landslide. That achieves nothing. If Vim's in danger I'll switch, but for God sake, do the right thing. Kill Cjay by a vote or 2.
I'm not the wolf so I don't mind voting for the guy who ultimately survives.
Browning
07-10-2015, 05:13 PM
That makes it 2-2, by the way.
Vim - Cjay
He's not on the list
Vim - Cjay
Keeping it tight for the time being.
3-3
Demerit
07-10-2015, 05:34 PM
Vim - Cjay
Vim was on the no kill list and CJay wasn't, so an easy choice here.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 05:35 PM
Vim - Cjay
aaaaand at 3-6 we have no wolf kill tonight
Not really, given how many of you have ignored the plan to spread votes, Burnham will have better chances killing than not.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 05:39 PM
Not really, given how many of you have ignored the plan to spread votes, Burnham will have better chances killing than not.
wait, Burnham can still kill if he votes? I thought it was five or less for him to kill
or was that an add-on
Vim - Cjay
Swapping my vote to get it back closer.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 05:42 PM
wait, Burnham can still kill if he votes? I thought it was five or less for him to kill
or was that an add-onnevermind, I need to bother reading stuff.
Vim - Cjay
Swapping my vote to get it back closer.4-5.
I'm not comfortable switching on to Vim unless we get two more people voting.
At this point in time CJay needs to realise that Vim as a known goodie is more important and useful to our success as a village. If CJay isn't a wolf or a really vital role (Sturgeon or Dave) then he should really be sacrificing himself.
EDIT: Ignore me. Getting myself muddled again.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 08:02 PM
Unless I'm wrong on the time zone, voting is closed with a 4-5, which means Burnham gets a free kill tonight.
Browning
07-10-2015, 08:05 PM
Am I correct in saying there were 3 non-voters, Mahow, Boydy and Igor? That's from looking at the player list on Page 1 and trying to work out who's still alive.
So if Burnham gets a kill tonight we can narrow it down to: Pleb, Demerit, Panda (Or Vim or Toby, who were on the "innocent" list)
If he doesn't then it's one from: CJay, Me, P_3, SvN, Boydy (Or Mahow/Igor on the innocent list)
Either outcome is OK for us, I suppose, so long as he doesn't hit Sturgeon.
Someone please double check I haven't missed anyone out though.
Browning
07-10-2015, 08:06 PM
Unless I'm wrong on the time zone, voting is closed with a 4-5, which means Burnham gets a free kill tonight.
Nope, no free kill. It was only if less than 5 people voted. But yes, voting is closed.
Total of less than 5 votes.
Sounds like five would still be alright.
Browning
07-10-2015, 08:08 PM
Oh, I read that as at least 5 people needed to vote, so we couldn't all abstain. However even if it's "Burnham needs 5 votes", we still met that.
Browning
07-10-2015, 08:09 PM
And by Burnham, I of course meant "whoever we kill", which probably isn't Burnham but oh well.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 08:17 PM
"Should a player be lynched by five votes or less, Burnham gets his kill for free, as a minority issue, regardless of which way he votes that night."
By five or less means equal to or less than, so it works with five. Otherwise it would read as "Should a player be lynched by less than five votes".
The Merse
07-10-2015, 08:23 PM
Right.
*****DISREGARD*****
If you lot amount 5 votes for someone and they're lynched, then Burnham still needs to have voted for them.
If it's less than 5 votes that got the lynchee offed, then Burnham gets a kill regardless.
****DISREGARD*******
EDIT - Sorry, got that completely wrong and only posted it after the voting was over so it's shouldn't have influenced things... That wasn't what I wrote last night in here and to Burnham, it was-
Should a player be lynched by five votes or less, Burnham gets his kill for free, as a minority issue, regardless of which way he votes that night.
That stands, so 5 votes gives Burnham a free go. It took 6 to not give him that kill - the vote change swung it.
The Merse
07-10-2015, 08:44 PM
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Vengeance.
Dianne Abbot had regained control of herself and she was determined to weed out the traitor in the midst of the Labour party. Burnham. She knew it, she just needed the proof.
The idea of collateral damage meant little to her. She would sacrifice every one of her colleagues for revenge.
So, she laid a trap.
The carrot, if you will, that she dangled was that which she knew would tempt him in, the promise of money and power. Using her media connections, she persuaded a very rich man to make a very rich offer. He would make enquiries with all the right people to get to Burnham, discussing his desire to fund an entire leadership campaign in exchange for certain concessions. Burnham was corrupt enough and weak enough to snatch at the chance.
Unfortunately for Abbot, he was not alone.
Simon Fletcher had spent 12 years working with Ken Livingstone. He’d seen and heard it all, he knew corruption and he welcomed it. This might be his chance, a new man for a new age.
It was to be his last act as a member of the Labour party, Scotland Yard would see to that.
CJay was Simon Fletcher, Friend of Corbyn
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The Burnham-Campbell-‘Blair’ machine was in overdrive. Desperate to survive, it had blood on it’s hands and paranoia was leading to erratic behaviour.
That paranoia extended well beyond the threat of his own party, beyond even his desperation to kill off the SNP and regain the support of the mid-day intoxicated. He saw suspicion in the eyes everyone.
Boris Johnson on the other hand, had been having a swell time. Somewhere near Henley, he and Dave had stopped off for a pint and bit to eat, but were about to move on having found that the local boozer was serving a hog roast, which had made to awkward acknowledgement by all around. Things had got tense when Boris made an inappropriate joke about sharing their meal and a long forgotten moment in the history of Bullingdon.
Returning to their bicycles (of course), they set off down one more hill.
Boris hadn't noticed the hooded, unshaven Burnham playing to geographical stereotypes and fidgeting with the bikes.
Had they done so, perhaps Boris would have discovered earlier that his brakelines had been severed. Perhaps, before he’d reached the bottom of the hill leading onto a busy Wiltshire road. Perhaps before the oncoming Eddie Stobart had come into view all too quickly.
Dave had noticed. He'd even suggested they head down that big hill having spotted the brake lines.
He'd never had the spine to off an old friend that had rather a nasty habit of undermining him, he'd even stopped Gideon from doing so (in the political sense), but he wasn't about to prevent someone else from doing so.
Mahow was Boris Johnson, an independent.
The Merse
07-10-2015, 08:47 PM
Trade Unions Accused of Preventing Progress by Farage
Nigel Farage today attacked Trade Union bosses, stating that constant strike action by public servants was undermining the work required to improve critical services. ‘They’re bloody idiots, look at that McLusky chap, they’re all clapping along to Billy bloody Bragg and waving their banners and having a great time while the country goes to ruin. Of course, these immigrants are to blame – that’s why our cabbies are on strike – there will be 294,000 Lithuanian cab driver in London by next year. And the doctors, well – they’re treating pissed up poles all day, 10 of them to 1 English patient, it’s no wonder that they’re working 70 hour weeks. I say, strike out at the problem – the migrants, don’t stop Johnny English getting to work on time because of your pickets’
Thought for a moment we'd fluked a wolf, you've said friend of Burnham instead of Corbyn, Merse, you tease.
The Merse
07-10-2015, 09:00 PM
Fuck. Not having a good night of it.
On call and have an issue so three screens and a phone on the go.
Seeing as splitting the votes won't work now, we need to hear everyone's opinions on the remaining 10 players. We'll nominate the two most suspicious and hope that Burnham is one of the two.
Browning
07-10-2015, 09:05 PM
The fact they got a free kill based on an unclear rule is total bollocks and means that last phase was completely wasted. Oh well...
Meh. This game was too confusing for me. :( Go Villagers?
How the fuck is this even possible? Why would you change your votes, how can you not even reach six votes when the other option for lynching (me) was confirmed by the seer not to be a wolf?
Browning
07-10-2015, 09:11 PM
If I had known we needed 6 I would have switched. The idea of voting for you was to keep the "potential Burnham" list low. It's completely backfired now.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 09:15 PM
I'm on my phone, so apologies.
I nominate SvN.
There were three interpretations about Burnham's free kill mechanism: 1) less than five; 2) five or less; and 3) whatever the fuck Browning wrote.
SvN has been one of the major strategists since the start, and one of the prime developers of the split and contain system. Using the technique to kill his fellow wolves would play into the long-game where people wouldn't be suspecting him due to his voting recommendations.
Switching to Vim, were SvN a wolf, would play into developing the long-game. He would have known that he would either forego a kill that night or earn a free kill if the vote held steady after he switched to Vim.
This kind of maneouvre would play into the long-term strategy of not being in the Burnham pools to earn suspicion while killing fellow wolves, and therefore would set himself up for the rest of the game.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 09:17 PM
How the fuck is this even possible? Why would you change your votes, how can you not even reach six votes when the other option for lynching (me) was confirmed by the seer not to be a wolf?
They were trying to keep the votes even using the outdated containment strategy, and earlier voters for you weren't around to change votes and prevent the free kill mechanic.
We should be able to prevent a Burnham free kill this round assuming that everybody shows up to vote.
But why would you keep the votes even? It makes no sense to me. Surely the best strategy as I pointed out at the start would have been to do 6-0 for CJ, with as many of Byron's safe list as possible on it. As it turned out CJ was not a wolf either, kind of a bummer but hey.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 09:24 PM
But why would you keep the votes even? It makes no sense to me. Surely the best strategy as I pointed out at the start would have been to do 6-0 for CJ, with as many of Byron's safe list as possible on it. As it turned out CJ was not a wolf either, kind of a bummer but hey.Yeah, it was weird. I was confused by it too.
Boydy - Thought he was safe but today's actions (nominating Vim) brings him back into focus
Browning - I think he is safe, as I stated last night even though it seems everyone has ignored it
Demerit - Don't know about him at all. Has missed two phases early on but has voted unsuspiciously since
Igor - SAFE due to Byron
Panda - I'd like to think he is safe but you never know what is going on with him. Could be a wolf playing a very good game.
Pleb - Turned up tonight after missing two phases. Coincides with Burnham's lot having just one wolf left.
SVN - Strange one. He's voted for wolves on five out of six occasions and changed his vote to Vim tonight to gift the wolves a free kill. I think he's just unlucky (or lucky if you consider his wolf hitting abilities) in his actions, but he could easily be a wolf.
Toby - SAFE due to Byron
Vim - SAFE due to Byron
The fact they got a free kill based on an unclear rule is total bollocks
It's not really, it completely serves us right for the level of inactivity and Merse would have been well within his rights to just not have anybody lynched when we didn't bother to nominate.
Browning
07-10-2015, 09:39 PM
I second the nomination of SvN (First nomination by Panda)
I'll go with Panda on this. The vote change was the only thing that really stood out to me, albeit he was following my flawed logic. Don't necessarily think he should be offed but we need names on the board and I can't nominate tomorrow. If anyone comes up with a more compelling case against someone, so be it.
Vim, you're correct, that's what we should have done. Basically I got in from work, saw the absolute farce of nominations and voted without thinking too much. My logic was clearly explained, but yes, had I known we needed 6 votes to off him I would have pulled for a 6-0 vote too, or at least a 6-5. I fucked that up, but surprised people followed me in "keeping it close" rather than correcting me. Had they done so I'd have changed.
Do we still need six out of 10 people to vote one way? Seems frankly absurd, but if that's the case I'm happy for us to pick someone and off them 6-0. At this stage though I'm not sure it's the best plan as we only have 3 "safe" players now, and 1 of those isn't showing up.
Browning
07-10-2015, 09:41 PM
It's not really, it completely serves us right for the level of inactivity and Merse would have been well within his rights to just not have anybody lynched when we didn't bother to nominate.
That is a fair point. Even I was annoyed when I saw that. I just wasn't able to get on at all during the nomination phase, but I didn't expect that.
I would like to nominate Boydy (first nomination)
What was he playing at today nominating Vim? I'm happy with him and SVN as our two.
Browning I sort of expected people to understand and go with my suggestion so I wasn't keeping close tabs on voting, people instead went with keepign the vote close. It's a bit of a general mistake but hopefully we'll live through it.
Pleb - Turned up tonight after missing two phases. Coincides with Burnham's lot having just one wolf left.
At this stage, this is probably enough for me.
I nominate Pleb (first nomination)
Boydy
07-10-2015, 09:50 PM
You're wasting your time nominating me. I haven't followed this very well from the start and I thought Vim was still on the danger list. No one else was nominating at the time so I was just trying to do something.
Unlike you not to vote too. Bit busy tonight?
Boydy
07-10-2015, 10:00 PM
Yeah, I was out getting drunk.
Lol. So no one at all picked me up for switching at the time (as I thought that was the sensible thing to do) and now you're nominating me for it? Noone even seemed clear on the rule itself.
I'll bank on Panda being the last wolf. The fact that he hasn't had his usual meltdown by now is odd.
I nominate Panda (First nomination)
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 10:05 PM
Lol. So no one at all picked me up for switching at the time (as I thought that was the sensible thing to do) and now you're nominating me for it? Noone even seemed clear on the rule itself.
I'll bank on Panda being the last wolf. The fact that he hasn't had his usual meltdown by now is odd.
I nominate Panda (First nomination)aren't all of my meltdowns when i'm on the ropes and about to get voted off
I mean seriously. Look at my voting and nominating and decide if I'm a wolf. If you vote me off, I'll be rooting for the last wolf to beat you clueless dickheads.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 10:09 PM
I mean seriously. Look at my voting and nominating and decide if I'm a wolf. If you vote me off, I'll be rooting for the last wolf to beat you clueless dickheads.Actually, has anyone been keeping a spreadsheet?
Toby has shared one a while back. Not sure if he's still updating it. I've got my own on the go, if you want SvN:
Day 1: Nomination, Browning - Vote, Magic
Day 2: Nomination, Vim - Vote, Jimmy
Day 3: MIA
Day 4: Nomination, Maz - Vote, Maz
Day 5: Vote, Magic/Matt
Day 6: Vote, 7om
Day 7: Nomination, CJay - Vote, CJay, Change, Vim
I gave up after two nights. :(
We should probably get to seconding people tomorrow when everyone's had a look at the various vote histories of the people that have one nomination.
Someone second Panda. Do you not think it's odd that he's decided to come alive at the end of the game when he's been absent so far? If he's not seconded I'll gladly fall on my sword and root him on for the rest of the game.
Let's not forget I was the person to bring suspicion on Matt when no one had even mentioned the possibility of him being a wolf.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 10:29 PM
Someone second Panda. Do you not think it's odd that he's decided to come alive at the end of the game when he's been absent so far? If he's not seconded I'll gladly fall on my sword and root him on for the rest of the game.Last week I was waking up between 1-3 PM despite having a job that starts in the morning as I was struggling with a depression flare up, then spending my evenings with my girlfriend. I wasn't really able to participate until this week.
Panda Bear
07-10-2015, 10:30 PM
Toby has shared one a while back. Not sure if he's still updating it. I've got my own on the go, if you want SvN:
Day 1: Nomination, Browning - Vote, Magic
Day 2: Nomination, Vim - Vote, Jimmy
Day 3: MIA
Day 4: Nomination, Maz - Vote, Maz
Day 5: Vote, Magic/Matt
Day 6: Vote, 7om
Day 7: Nomination, CJay - Vote, CJay, Change, Vim
Would you be willing to share everything you've tracked on something like a Google Docs?
Here you go, vote changing is a bit tricky to follow but the rest is straightforward enough:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EttXFH6eU2Bo-57aXsIP4_NdWuexOusD09EfdR3EAXc/edit?usp=sharing
So Pleb's voted for a wolf only once, and it was when we decided to pile on Jimmy?
Thanks for the spreadsheet btw P_3.
I nominate Pleb (first nomination)
That seems suspicious enough to me, so coupled with the horrible thought of Pleb actually winning as the final wolf, I'm happy to go for it.
I'd already nominated him Toby so that's a second.
Demerit
08-10-2015, 12:48 PM
Up for the 6-0 on the next vote with the 'safe' list all voting along with one or two others.
I'm happy to be part of the 6 that vote, I know I'm not a wolf obviously and if Burnham decides to abstain at least it'll clear my name so we can tick me off the list.
How many 'safe' voters are left?
Mahow is gone so we're down to three, in me, Vim and Igor.
Demerit
08-10-2015, 12:57 PM
Okay so why don't we say..
Me, you, Vim, Igor, Panda and Boydy vote for whoever we decide is going this round.
If there's no Burnham kill then we're down to a list of four.
We then ask two of the remaining four to vote tomorrow (along with four other safe voters), if there's a Burnham kill we narrow it down to those two, if there's not it's narrowed down to the two that don't vote tomorrow.
So we could have this all wrapped up in 3 stages if we make the decision between the final two correctly, worst case we get that wrong and it's 4 stages.
Is there any way the remaining wolf can win in 4 stages? (Given that if it goes the way I've suggested above then there would be no wolf kill tonight, potentially none tomorrow)
I think if the wolf kills Sturgeon it's done.
The plan you're proposing is basicaly what I tried to put in action last night Demerit, I'm definitely up for going about voting that way.
I'm happy enough with the start of that plan but we have to bear in mind that Burnham could vote for the lynchee then opt not to kill anybody, and that Merse might not necessarily tell us if that has been the case.
And yes, the wolf can win at any time if he successfully targets Sturgeon. We can have a one night reprieve through Cameron but after that it's game over.
That's a good point. Well let's see how we do.
Who's been seconded so far? Just SvN and Pleb?
Demerit
08-10-2015, 01:17 PM
I think if the wolf kills Sturgeon it's done.
The plan you're proposing is basicaly what I tried to put in action last night Demerit, I'm definitely up for going about voting that way.
Okay, we just need to make sure everyone knows what to do.
One the nominations are confirmed we'll decide who to lynch then I'll give out instructions in the form of mentions so that hopefully people don't miss it.
I'm happy enough with the start of that plan but we have to bear in mind that Burnham could vote for the lynchee then opt not to kill anybody, and that Merse might not necessarily tell us if that has been the case.
And yes, the wolf can win at any time if he successfully targets Sturgeon. We can have a one night reprieve through Cameron but after that it's game over.
Ah, forgot about Burnham being able to abstain from his night kill.
There's no way we can really get around that is there..
Not really, but he'll have to make a kill at some point (unless we really blow it) and we just have to make sure we keep the shortlist tight so that we can identify him when he does.
Pleb - SvN
Alright, let's do this thing.
I'd like to vote Pleb but I guess since I'm in the kill team I should ask if others agree first.
Bearing in mind Igor hasn't been involved in this since phase 2, we need four to join Toby and Vim in voting.
Browning must be involved and Demerit seems decent enough. The last two will have to come from Boydy, Panda and myself. Of the two I'd rather have Panda involved alongside myself obviously. SvN, Pleb and Boydy to sit it out. Is that ok with everyone else?
Boydy
08-10-2015, 04:18 PM
What? I'm not voting then?
Panda Bear
08-10-2015, 04:22 PM
What's the point of these plans if Burnham just abstains from his kills?
Browning
08-10-2015, 04:25 PM
Ok I agree to the plan. Which one are we killing?
Bearing in mind Igor hasn't been involved in this since phase 2, we need four to join Toby and Vim in voting.
Browning must be involved and Demerit seems decent enough. The last two will have to come from Boydy, Panda and myself. Of the two I'd rather have Panda involved alongside myself obviously. SvN, Pleb and Boydy to sit it out. Is that ok with everyone else?
Fine with me. If I go, I go, but if I do, then please don't fuck this up.
I think Pleb is the more likely of the two to be a wolf.
Pleb - SvN
I think it must be SvN.
I mean seriously. Look at my voting and nominating and decide if I'm a wolf. If you vote me off, I'll be rooting for the last wolf to beat you clueless dickheads.
Sounds like a prolonged plan to dish out this defence in case it was needed. I'd be amazed if an ordinary villager managed to hit all but one wolf on 5 out of 6 occasions, so have to say it is very suspicious to say the least.
Let's not forget I was the person to bring suspicion on Matt when no one had even mentioned the possibility of him being a wolf.
If I remember correctly you said that it was pretty obvious Matt was a wolf, based on the fact that Magic sent a lot of PMs. You didn't think to mention that he could have been Cameron or Johnson who can communicate, or Corbyn and Sturgeon who can do the same. If you were a villager, you would have mentioned that as a precaution for the others but you didn't. This just sounds like this was again planned to save your backside in the future and to avoid the gaze of the seer.
Since Panda has accused him, SvN has been rather aggressive in some of his replies. I'm not even sure Pleb will turn up. Thoughts?
To be fair, I was wasted last night, hence the mini-meltdown after Panda accused me. As for the PMs thing, the wolves PM a ton more than others, as they're a bigger group. It makes sense that they'd fill out their PM box so quickly (which was like day two of the game).
Surely wolves communicate through some group chat kind of thing after the first couple of days? I don't know if this whole PM thing is relevant.
I'm ready to change my vote to SvN if you guys feel like he's the one we should be lynching.
I've never communicated with anything other than PM when I've been a wolf.
Panda Bear
08-10-2015, 04:59 PM
We have three innocents, and nine players remaining, right?
This means Burnham is within six players.
If everyone actually shows up to vote unanimously therefore preventing free kills, and Burnham never hits Sturgeon at night, then Burnham can win if:
SCENARIO A
1) when there are six people left including three innocents, Burnham is not lynched that round;
2) Burnham uses his night kill on an innocent--either it's a free kill or one of the remaining two did it, so it doesn't matter;
3) With four people remaining, Burnham somehow doesn't get lynched. (This is unlikely since the village is best served by a double lynch, but vote change hijinks.)
OR
SCENARIO B
1) When there are seven people left including three innocents, Burnham is not lynched. If the vote reaches six, then Burnham doesn't get a free kill.*
2) Burnham lynch-kills an innocent that night, bringing it down to five people including two innocents.
3) Burnham survives that round and gets his free kill on an innocent, bringing the game to three people including one innocent. If Burnham survives that round, well, Burnham wins.
* To limit the pool to two potential Burnhams and therefore identify Burnham in the final round, there must be a suicide vote to bring to six with one potential Burnham abstaining. If Burnham chooses not to kill that night, then the first scenario plays out.
The Merse
08-10-2015, 05:00 PM
I missed the PM bit with regards to Matt, but I will stress - no fucking info from outside of the thread unless it's simply the collation of that within it please, gents. That includes explicit remarks on investigations, references to pm's and comments made by dead Dundonians.
True, but it would have still been too risky in case you hit one of the other communicating pairs. If you were a villager you'd have thought about it and decided that it wouldn't be worth raising it up in case you were wrong. I know I noticed it, as did others, but we didn't feel we had enough evidence to risk putting ourselves on the spot. As a wolf, knowing he was a wolf, you had a 100% guarantee you'd get it right.
I will apologise profusely if you are a humble villager, but your actions have been quite unique and I do feel you are the last wolf.
I missed the PM bit with regards to Matt, but I will stress - no fucking info from outside of the thread unless it's simply the collation of that within it please, gents. That includes explicit remarks on investigations, references to pm's and comments made by dead Dundonians.
It's hard to ignore though when it's given away.
Panda Bear
08-10-2015, 05:01 PM
I don't think we're allowed to use whether you've seen someone PMimg in profile or their inbox being full as werewolf proof.
True, but it would have still been too risky in case you hit one of the other communicating pairs. If you were a villager you'd have thought about it and decided that it wouldn't be worth raising it up in case you were wrong. I know I noticed it, as did others, but we didn't feel we had enough evidence to risk putting ourselves on the spot. As a wolf, knowing he was a wolf, you had a 100% guarantee you'd get it right.
I will apologise profusely if you are a humble villager, but your actions have been quite unique and I do feel you are the last wolf.
Go for it, there's nothing to split me and Pleb I suppose. I'll be fuming if he's the last wolf, mind.
In what form can I expect my apology?
In what form can I expect my apology?
I've got some dirt on Mahow, will that do?
The Merse
08-10-2015, 05:04 PM
It's hard to ignore though when it's given away.
Yeah. But not difficult to keep to yourself. I understand you can't eradicate it from your own mind.
Surely you'd need to go out of your way to discover that too?
Unless it's his Ukrainian slut spreadeagled in HD, I doubt it'll be of any interest.
Panda Bear
08-10-2015, 05:05 PM
Pleb - SvN
I'm liking what P_3 wrote. Still willing to go along with THE PLAN, though, but it requires Burnham to try night kills.
Yeah. But not difficult to keep to yourself. I understand you can't eradicate it from your own mind.
Surely you'd need to go out of your way to discover that too?
Magic posted in the fixes thread, hardly going out of my way.
This Merse chap sure sends a lot of PMs. :sherlock:
I'll see who the next vote goes to, if it's SvN then I'll just change my vote and go along with the rest of you.
The Merse
08-10-2015, 05:39 PM
Right chaps. Better set some expectations.
I'm on call this week and have just picked up a fairly hefty issue that looks like to have enough legs to carry it into the late evening. If that's the case, the write ups are shagged for the night - hopefully not though. Continue as usual and in the worse case I'll probably work from home tomorrow and fit it in at some point.
The case for SvN seems stronger but I can't really vote for him unless Vim is around to change.
Yeah I'm around. I'm waiting for the third vote to be cast, if it's for SvN then I'll change.
I might not be around later so would rather vote as soon as possible.
Pleb - SvN
Going to be SvN for me. I can just about see SvN getting away with a plan that involves lynching all his fellow wolves.
Pleb - SvN
I'd like to change my vote from Pleb to SvN
I'm still uneasy about this purely because if SvN is the wolf and wins, I'd be okay with it and give him the congratulations he deserves. If it's Pleb, and he gets to claim he Plebrolled us, well... I don't want to imagine that scenario. Maybe we should double lynch them just in case.
Demerit
08-10-2015, 06:12 PM
Pleb - SvN
Vim, change.
We need one more to vote, ideally Igor. Then let's stop and see what happens.
Pleb - SvN
Alright chaps? Top work this. The fact you lot nominated me is a bit :D
Shall we have the last laugh on Pleb? I'm happy to let SvN slide for a phase.
I'm not Burnham.
Just saying.
The fact you lot nominated me is a bit :D
Why exactly?
Browning
08-10-2015, 06:48 PM
Pleb - SvN
As per the plan.
Browning
08-10-2015, 06:49 PM
Fuck sake, I was sure I was on P_3s list of those who should vote.
Should I withdraw/change my vote?
Demerit
08-10-2015, 06:51 PM
Fuck sake, I was sure I was on P_3s list of those who should vote.
Should I withdraw/change my vote?
Yeah change to Pleb.
So if there's a wolf kill tonight, Burnham is definitely one of Me, Panda, Pleb or P_3.
If not its one of the 3 remaining non safes or Burnham abstained to kill.
Burnham can't abstain forever as we'll get lucky and hit him so I've no idea what I'd do in his shoes.
Browning
08-10-2015, 06:51 PM
Pleb - SvN
I'd like to change my vote from SvN to Pleb
Because we only need 6.
Edit- To fix the coding.
Don't worry Browning. Pleb shouldn't have voted but I don't think he has quite picked up the ability to read just yet.
Panda Bear
08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
1-6 against SvN.
The Merse
08-10-2015, 08:45 PM
This is a little rushed, but hey ho - not sure how long this is going to last since the fix is there but we're likely to dilly dally on implementation...
Abbott arrested
Westminster was left in a state of shock this morning following revelations that Diane Abbott had been arrested on suspicion of murder.
The Labour veteran and TV personality was picked up by Police in the early hours. Whilst Police would only confirm that a 62-year old woman had been taken into custody, it is understood that Abbott is being questioned over the recent deaths of three MP's. It's understood that police obtained the whereabouts of Abbott from Labour colleagues that Abbott had turned to for help.
SVN was Diane Abbott, Friend of Corbyn
Panda Bear
08-10-2015, 08:47 PM
Well, fuck.
Assuming that there's no follow up where I get night-killed...
I nominate Pleb.
Boydy
08-10-2015, 08:47 PM
Nice one, dickheads.
Mahow's Ukrainian gash is on its way to you SvN. Apologies. :nono:
If it helps the village in any way I'm happy to be sacrificed. I've fucked up badly.
Demerit
08-10-2015, 08:53 PM
Any wolf kill Merse?
Demerit
08-10-2015, 08:53 PM
Nice one, dickheads.
Go on then, who's the wolf genius?
The Merse
08-10-2015, 08:58 PM
Police investigating leads search Burnham and Murdoch homes
Police were last night searching the London residences of Andy Burnham and Rupert Murdoch following leads gained from the arrest of Diane Abbott.
The Met are yet to comment further, but were seen with evidence bags containing a pen and a bra and an ASDA bag.
The Merse
08-10-2015, 08:59 PM
It's Day, get your nominees on the board by 3pm.
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