Health and sickness. A place to moan.

[-james-]

Are you still on the gear?

I get palpitations after a cup of tea lol.

[Don]

Are you vaxxed? :rasta:

[Waffdon]

Are you still on the gear?

I get palpitations after a cup of tea lol.

Nah, not for a long while. Go out drinking about once a month at most these days :lol:

[Waffdon]

Are you vaxxed? :rasta:

Of course. It’s been happening for ages though. Just really noticeable this past week

[Manc]

My back has gone again in the precise spot it had ten or so weeks ago. OH referral here I come.

[Don]

https://www.numan.com/fear-nothing/fear-nothing-blood-test

£98 is tempting me. Love a good health check :drool:

[Ben]

Where have these fuckers come from? Hadn't heard of them a year and now they're all over TV with a solution for everything.

[Spikey M]

My neighbour took her car into the garage a few weeks ago because her MOT was coming up and she wanted to know what it was likely to cost her. So he gave it a once over, found some problems and charged her £600 to sort them out. I bet the MOT wouldn't have flagged them and the car was driving fine.

These tests feel a bit like that. You're basically trying to find something to worry about.

[Spikey M]

My sons back is covered in spots / pox.

What a day. :happycry:

[niko_cee]

Hopefully just hives, or is it full blown chicken pox [should have got him vaccinated :henn0rz:]?

[Spikey M]

Pretty sure chicken pox. They weren't there this morning though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Storm Eunice strikes again.

[Pepe]

Maybe the fence hit him as it blew away.

[randomlegend]

I expect it's Magic's fault.

[Ian]

Welcome back, Spikey.

[Shindig]

Looks like I've picked up a stomach bug. Great way to spend your weekend, that.

[Clunge]

Suspected stress fracture somewhere in/around my left knee. Literally just after I completely Couch to 5k – ridiculously frustrating seeing as I'd just got motivated for the first time in more then a decade to do some regular exercise.

[Manc]

Front line NHS staff are some of the most incompetent people I've ever come across. Useless.

[Kikó]

This isn't the RL marriage thread mate.

[Don]

Suspected stress fracture somewhere in/around my left knee. Literally just after I completely Couch to 5k – ridiculously frustrating seeing as I'd just got motivated for the first time in more then a decade to do some regular exercise.

What caused this? Surely an impact injury rather than just running, right?

[Clunge]

What caused this? Surely an impact injury rather than just running, right?
No notable impacts on my knee other than regular running for 9-10 weeks. Doctor said it was likely just the result of an accumulation of stress/strain placed on my knee. I know quite literally nothing about the physiology involved, but in short; I did running, it felt great, then something broke and it was no longer possible to run/stress my knee any more. It's been feeling pretty fine now though for a few weeks so I'm going to see if I can ease myself back into running. Was planning to restart a fortnight ago but then Covid intervened.

[Lofty]

Anyone tried those video call GP services? My GP surgery is wank and the world has been falling out of my arse for 5 days non stop despite home remedies and immodium.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Got dragged along to a "health clinic" today in Poland.

The guy made me hold some metal tube whilst he would touch various points on my hands with some device which apparently showed that my liver and half of my heart isn't doing too well.

It was apparently clear that I have Lyme Disease and have probably had it since birth or at the very least my early years.

He claimed that he would find red marks on my chest and back and proceeded to manically look for them and failing to find any.

He then said I should do, at a minimum, 4 treatments of electromagnetic therapy (I think that's the therapy he said) with each session lasting 4 hours. Apparently it would cure my insomnia, post-nasal drip, slight eczema, reduce my weight and even clear up the sebaceous cyst that I have on the back of my neck.

Absolute horseshit.

[Shindig]

That's ... either strapping you in a chair and giving you a charge or just rubbing magnets on your back.

[Lewis]

It sounds like it can't do any harm.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It sounds like it can't do any harm.

Would harm my bank balance.

[randomlegend]

Dragged?

[Lewis]

Rolled.

[Baz]

Get it done, purely for TTHs entertainment if nothing else.

[Manc]

No hope for The Claw then.

[Don]

What Lewis said. If you were a bit more furry, kind gammons would have put you down by now, you disgusting fuck.

[Waffdon]

Stupid question alert:

Does anyone have perfect eyes but still wear glasses? Lol. My eyes have been killing me for the last 2 weeks or so (just in general, not even from looking at the tele/laptop etc) but I went for a test on Monday (£35, thought it was free?!?) and they said my eyes are healthy and there are no issues.

They feel bruised and as if I’ve been in a no blinking contest and I’ve reached the 2 minute mark and my eyes are desperate to shut. I don’t think it’s hayfever as that just usually makes them itchy and dry and anti histamines haven’t made a difference

[randomlegend]

Why would glasses help if your vision is fine?

See a doctor.

[Spikey M]

Is it not a migraine?

[Waffdon]

I’ve got tablets for them which are incredibly good when I get them. I thought it was maybe that at first and took them on the off chance but it doesn’t make a difference. I don’t feel sick or anything either which I normally would.

Everything just feels bright and vibrant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wear some sunglasses.

[Waffdon]

I have been :lol:

[randomlegend]

Is it not a migraine?

If it's been consistent for 2 weeks it's very unlikely.

See a doctor.

[Manc]

Rest in pieces.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mellin can pay the funeral costs.

[Spikey M]

Everything just feels bright and vibrant.

Have you left Scotland? You may just be adjusting.

[Disco]

My Dad has been quite unwell the last few weeks and I wonder if our experience is similar to others, fantastic service and people to be found in hospital (with one somewhat understandable exception) which could not contrast more strongly with his GP who works about 2 days a week and seemed to have no idea about anything to do with his surgery despite being responsible for his aftercare. It also seems to be weirdly difficult for anyone to see what treatments he had, at one point it was lucky we had brought copies of stuff from his initial operation because they had no idea what he'd been given and were having to phone another hospital (a doctor was literally googling their switchboard number) ahead of the procedure that ended up saving his life. If it wasn't for Mum kicking off and basically forcing him to be admitted his GP would have left him at home while his organs all stopped working.

[Waffdon]

Scotland doesn’t get dark in the summer mate. It’s still bright enough at 11pm.

[randomlegend]

My Dad has been quite unwell the last few weeks and I wonder if our experience is similar to others, fantastic service and people to be found in hospital (with one somewhat understandable exception) which could not contrast more strongly with his GP who works about 2 days a week and seemed to have no idea about anything to do with his surgery despite being responsible for his aftercare. It also seems to be weirdly difficult for anyone to see what treatments he had, at one point it was lucky we had brought copies of stuff from his initial operation because they had no idea what he'd been given and were having to phone another hospital (a doctor was literally googling their switchboard number) ahead of the procedure that ended up saving his life. If it wasn't for Mum kicking off and basically forcing him to be admitted his GP would have left him at home while his organs all stopped working.

NHS systems barely link up at all. It's generally impossible to view information/notes from a different hospital or hospital records from a GP surgery.

There are definitely good GPs around, but my current job really does make me feel like there are a LOT of dreadful ones.

[Waffdon]

When I first went to the Doctors about my headaches, the guy spent 20 mins telling me it was to do with my posture and started showing me stretches he does in between phone appointments. :D

[Spikey M]

Covid for the third time \./

I think it might be worse this time. I actually feel a bit unwell. Got to much shit on to not work too.

[niko_cee]

You should go into the office (it's you with the covid pearl clutcher right?) and just casually drop a, "well, you won't believe this Angela, but I actually have..." into conversation.

Unless that would get you sacked. I suppose it also requires sacrificing the WFH golden goose.

[Spikey M]

It would get me into a world of shit unfortunately. Not that she would be in the office anyway, so it would have to be a home visit. I could conduct a drive by coughing at lunch.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Are workplaces still taking covid seriously as if it's going to wipe us all out?

[Spikey M]

Are workplaces still taking covid seriously as if it's going to wipe us all out?

Only to the extent that if you know you have it you have to work from home. There's no testing requirement, we just test because my Wife's dad is high risk (as in, can't even get holiday insurance level of risk).

[Manc]

Too big to fail.

[SvN]

When I first went to the Doctors about my headaches, the guy spent 20 mins telling me it was to do with my posture and started showing me stretches he does in between phone appointments. :D

I was getting really bad headaches about a year ago. When I mentioned I was having to take paracetemol to keep the pain at bay, she decided I'd become dependant on them (after 5 days), and I was getting medication overuse headaches.

Yeah, thanks for that love.

[randomlegend]

Waffdon

I have migraine at the pretty bad end of the spectrum in terms of frequency and stretching my neck properly significantly helped. It's probably not the sole answer to your problems, but simple things like that aren't just (always) just quackery or a way to fob you off. It's worth starting out trying things like that to see if they help.

SvN

Lol. Paracetamol is pretty low on the list of culprits for causing medication overuse headache (although it can), but definitely not after 5 days...

[Don]

Was looking forward to a game of football in the sunshine today, 5 mins in and some geezer comes and knicks the ball off me as I'm shooting. I kick his heel and he goes down like a sack of shit so that's both our games ruined. He can't stand but 111 suggest getting a cab to A&E as their paramedics will be a while so we carry him into an uber and off we head.

My guy's just been released with an x-ray proving inconclusive. Likely ligament damage and a sport clinic appointment in a few days time but it took 6 hours and all he came out of it with was a pair of crutches and a referral. Tuesday 6pm Homerton hospital. I hear US isn't far off similar waiting times and they pay through the arse but I struggle to believe this is even the median across developed countries. What a state of affairs.

[Kikó]

If the bone is not snapped, the inflammation probably makes it difficult to actually properly scan (I'm not a doctor, I'm Yevrah). Better to RICE it, let the swelling go down and see the condition after a few days.

[Don]

What a soft cunt he was then.

[randomlegend]

Inflammation is unlikely to affect x-ray interpretation. It's just not an exact science; some teeny tiny line could be a miniscule fracture, could be nothing.

Advice, crutches and referral to clinic is the correct management. What would he have preferred? An unnecessary cast and/or operation?

[Kikó]

OFF WITH THE LIMB.

x

[Don]

I don't know about him but I would have preferred not wasting my entire evening in a waiting room whose demographics made me feel like a malnourished prize gammon.

[randomlegend]

Did you have to stay with him? Is he 9?

[Don]

I'm cool like that, especially when ridden with guilt.

[Spikey M]

You'll be posting pictures of yourself crying on Instagram in a minute. Calm down Don Heung-Min ffs.

[Lofty]

Tick nurses?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

After coming into contact with Taz, yes they probably do now have ticks.

[Shindig]

I'm cool like that, especially when ridden with guilt.

He wasn't going to press charges, you melt.

[Smjffy]

So now I know all will be well, not sure if this is thread worthy or not or if anyone can relate. My mother has always been a trooper, very much the sort who'd put a few men to shame but she's stubborn as fuck. Fine, it is what it is.

She isn't getting younger though and her health isn't bad but it isn't good either. She enjoys long walks in the mountains etc but physically, she can't manage it all the time but will try anyway. She found herself in hospital again recently after once again going OTT and there is just no talking to her. She'll do what she wants to do regardless but one day I'm certain she'll collapse again and won't be fortunate enough to be near someone or close enough to get to a hospital. I try to tell myself that I am perhaps overreacting but I do fear she's going to drop dead sooner rather than later and what's worse? I don't think she actually cares or believes that it isn't us (the family) being silly, it's her thinking she's superwoman.

I can visualise the ending to the above quite vividly, as though I have already seen it. Not sure what I'd do if she snuffed it but I dread it when a family member calls me these days for that reason.

[randomlegend]

Does she actually have some significant health problem(s) that make overexerting herself dangerous, or is she just getting older?

The people who live til they're a billion are without fail the ones who stay active and keep having something to live for.

I probably have a bit of a different outlook on death to most people, but I'd much rather my Mum died living her life a bit too hard than she slowed down and then went all frail and withered away.

[Spikey M]

I'd much rather my Mum died

5 minutes into Liz Truss fandom and you're already a monster.

[randomlegend]

Don't tell DS on me.

[Smjffy]

Does she actually have some significant health problem(s) that make overexerting herself dangerous, or is she just getting older?

The people who live til they're a billion are without fail the ones who stay active and keep having something to live for.

I probably have a bit of a different outlook on death to most people, but I'd much rather my Mum died living her life a bit too hard than she slowed down and then went all frail and withered away.

I'm not entirely sure of the full extent. She's had two mini strokes before now but she's a weird one. One day she'll be clearly struggling to move, the next you might find her hauling paving slabs in the back garden or something.

I'd rather she died living her life for sure but I'd like to think if she actually listened to the professionals that she'd have a lot more life to live. I'm sure there are things she hasn't mentioned but if she hadn't ended up in hospital then I'd probably not have been told a thing so as not to worry.

[Mike]

My backs gone! It’s done it before and it’s normally ok after a few days, it’s really painful this time though. Currently walking like my Grandad did in his 80’s.

[Foe]

Muscular or trapped nerve?

I’ve found using a lacrosse/cricket/tennis ball up against a wall isn’t extremely painful but quite good at working out issues.

Foam rollers hurt also, but the benefit is worth it.

The massage gun I bought was a bit too powerful though.

[Manc]

It will be if you sit on it.

[Spikey M]

Muscular or trapped nerve?

I’ve found using a lacrosse/cricket/tennis ball up against a wall isn’t extremely painful but quite good at working out issues.

Foam rollers hurt also, but the benefit is worth it.

The massage gun I bought was a bit too powerful though.

Alright grandad, how fucked up are you exactly?

[Foe]

Alright grandad, how fucked up are you exactly?

I don’t like stretching. I tried doing yoga during lockdown but lasted about 2 videos before realising the instructor lady was too hot to pay attention to. So very.

[Baz]

I’ve been so ill today. Went out for a curry for someone’s leaving so last night, but drove and was home in time for Love Island. Woke up this morning feeling fine. I have like 4 apprenticeship assignment deadlines today so had dedicated my entire day to rattling them off. Got to about 10:30 and I started feeling sick. Went for a diabolical poo at about 11 and felt dead achey and shaky. Carried on doing work, but had about 4 super soaker propelled poos over the next hour, and was then sick. :sick:

Curled up in bed at 1 and have been here since. I’ve stopped shivering now and I ate an orange but immediately felt like spewing again, but instead had another sit down squirt and curled up back in bed.

My daughter had a sickness but about 2 weeks ago, which my wife then got and then my son, but I thought I’d managed to miss it. Not sure if it’s that or a dodgy curry to be honest. Just hope I feel better tomorrow and can do stuff in the morning, cos finally rolling out of bed only to demand to watch the football isn’t gonna go down well. :rosebud:

Feel dreadful though. Got some original Lucozade energy that my family always swears by when you’re ill, and my trusty roller cola flavoured air up water to hopefully see me through to the other side. Ugh gotta go need a poo…

[Shindig]

I tend to just sip water to get the fluids back.

[Foe]

Lucozade is so good when you’re not well.

I think it’s an almost exclusive feeling like shit so going to drink this shit scenario.

[Ian]

Don't know a better place to put this but having only lost my dad in July (see the Big C thread) my mum's gone this evening. She didn't keep well anyway and then with my dad gone basically gave up and slipped away earlier today.

I'm going to give losing two parents in 8 weeks a firm 1/10, would not recommend.

[Disco]

Sorry to hear that man, that's pretty brutal. My dad went back in June and that was weird enough, can't imagine what losing both is like.

[Ian]

Sorry to hear about your dad. It's the worst time.

[Spikey M]

Fucking hell, what a year. :(

[Ben]

Holy shit Ian that's awful. Condolences.

[Giggles]

Jesus that’s rough, sorry to hear Ian.

[Boydy]

Ah christ, that's awful. Sorry to hear, Ian.

[Shindig]

Christ, that's rough.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Don't know a better place to put this but having only lost my dad in July (see the Big C thread) my mum's gone this evening. She didn't keep well anyway and then with my dad gone basically gave up and slipped away earlier today.

I'm going to give losing two parents in 8 weeks a firm 1/10, would not recommend.
Fuck that's brutal, I'm so sorry.

[Raoul Duke]

Sorry to hear that mate

[Alex]

Fucking hell that is rough Ian. I'm sorry to hear that mate.

[Mike]

Awful news. Look after yourself

[7om]

Can’t even imagine how you must be feeling, Ian. Really sorry to hear that.

[Baz]

During the night I had the lovely experience of shooting liquid out of both ends. Somehow managed to keep it all in the toilet/sink, but my god it was grim. Now feel like I’ve been beaten up. Dreadful timing, work-wise, but a day in bed is definitely required.

[Baz]

How many days of liquid poo should I wait before getting concerned?

[Lofty]

How many has it been? I had the most outrageous diarrhoea I'd ever experienced earlier this year and after nearly a week I rang 111 and got put through to a GP who was like 'ring back if it persists after ten days'. I was absolutely raging by that point, tried drinking fermented milk products and reverted to wet wipes on my battle weary brown eye. Stopped the next day.

[Baz]

I use wet wipes for every poo anyway.

Wednesday about 10, Thursday about 5, then maybe 3 each on Friday and Saturday. Yesterday I gave up "eating sensibly" and had chips, fried rice and curry since everything seems to go straight through me anyway I might as well eat something nicer than plain bread, bananas and ricecakes.

[Don]

Rice and yoghurt, fam. Washed down with a coke.

[Shindig]

I had a week of it once. The solution seemed to be sipping water whilst my body sorted itself.

[Boydy]

You want to eat something really spicy. That'll kill off the germs in your system and sort you out.

[Baz]

You’re always ill. I would get yourself checked out.

There’s definitely some truth to this, and it’s infuriating. I now have my first ever cold sore and an ear infection.

Can’t get my bloods taken until the 8th December. :cab:

So I’m loaded up on penicillin and cocodamol.

[Spikey M]

You have a baby and a school age kid Baz.

The baby keeps you knackered so your immune system is fucked, and the kid brings a steady stream of germs home for you.

I have a cunt of a cold right now myself.

[Giggles]

Stop worrying about your next buck and conning people and just relax. Keeping an eye on all that would age anyone.

[randomlegend]

GPs and doling out unnecessary antibiotics, name a more iconic duo.

[Ben]

randomlegend and Romano tweets.

[igor_balis]

I've got piles

[Giggles]

Of?

[Spikey M]

Igor and rotten arseholes. Now there's an iconic duo.

[igor_balis]

Not usually my own though :moop:

[randomlegend]

randomlegend and Romano tweets.

I am iconic :cool:

[Manc]

GPs and doling out unnecessary antibiotics, name a more iconic duo.

My pharmacy rang me last week to pick up a prescription. Between the GP and a neurologist they've mustered up £45 worth of pills. No thanks.

[Spikey M]

Fuck me, what happened and how broken are you exactly?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

RIP mate.

[Manc]

Fuck me, what happened and how broken are you exactly?

Heads have gone very much in the physical sense. I'm going to reach out to Jeremy Hunt and his cabinet of alternative medicine.

[Baz]

Stop worrying about your next buck and conning people and just relax. Keeping an eye on all that would age anyone.I've never conned anyone. :thbdn:

[randomlegend]

Heads have gone very much in the physical sense. I'm going to reach out to Jeremy Hunt and his cabinet of alternative medicine.

Headaches/migraines?

[Waffdon]

They’re class, aren’t they.

[Manc]

Headaches/migraines?

Nail on the head. Quite literally.

[Lewis]

Never had a headache. :dance:

[randomlegend]

Nail on the head. Quite literally.

What have you tried?

[Waffdon]

Never had a headache. :dance:

Never been laid. :dance:

[igor_balis]

:D

[7om]

Preventatives work well, Manc. I’m assuming you’ve been prescribed one of propanolol or topiramate?

[Shindig]

Those don't sound like real drugs. Proper lol and Top Am a Mate?

[randomlegend]

Preventatives work well, Manc. I’m assuming you’ve been prescribed one of propanolol or topiramate?

Topiramate is fucking horrible. It's like thinking through tar.

[Lewis]

Those don't sound like real drugs. Proper lol and Top Am a Mate?

Propalol is the upper, propanolol is the downer.

[Spikey M]

Never been laid. :dance:

:lol:

[Manc]

Preventatives work well, Manc. I’m assuming you’ve been prescribed one of propanolol or topiramate?

Yes to Propanolol. Didn't touch the sides.


What have you tried?

I'll have a dig in the medicine cabinet tomorrow.

[Giggles]

Aimovig is your only man.

[7om]

Topiramate is fucking horrible. It's like thinking through tar.

I went on it for a few months for migraines. Horrific. The tiredness was having me fall asleep at my desk and like you said, the muddled thinking.

[Spikey M]

It was for sciatica rather than migraine, but the Dr chucked Amitriptaline at me once and that was unbearable. I had to go home from work because I kept zoning out and falling asleep.

I swear the approach with this stuff is just "mong them out until they stop caring about the pain".

[Ben]

Basically how the opioid crisis started in USA. These fucks will be held to account one day.

[Shindig]

Codeine had me in a zombie state when I tried it. At least the doctor had bunged he some paracetamol to fall back on.

[Ben]

It's a complete racket. Yet cannabis is illegal. And I say that as someone who has zero interest in using it myself.

[Waffdon]

It was for sciatica rather than migraine, but the Dr chucked Amitriptaline at me once and that was unbearable. I had to go home from work because I kept zoning out and falling asleep.

I swear the approach with this stuff is just "mong them out until they stop caring about the pain".

I got put on them for over a month. Well, 2 tablets a day until I ran out. I just took them before bed so it meant my sleep was great but not sure it made a difference aside from that. Still got a packet left over.

[Spikey M]

I got put on them for over a month. Well, 2 tablets a day until I ran out. I just took them before bed so it meant my sleep was great but not sure it made a difference aside from that. Still got a packet left over.

I was taking it before bed (and sleeping amazingly well to be fair) but I still felt like a Zombie until about 3pm the next day.

I tend to react badly to any of this type stuff though. They gave me Diazapam after I fucked my knee up once and that was a terrible experience too. I was a dizzy, confused mess.

[randomlegend]

The next day sleepiness tends to reduce over time with stuff like amitriptyline but I'll admit I also found it unbearable.

[Manc]

Propranolol
Pizotifen
Amitriptyline
Sumatriptan
Naproxen

150 or so tablets currently chilling in the medicine box.

[Waffdon]

Sumatriptan is quite good at getting headaches at the front of your napper but I’m not sure the side effects half the time are worth it

[randomlegend]

Propranolol
Pizotifen
Amitriptyline
Sumatriptan
Naproxen

150 or so tablets currently chilling in the medicine box.

How often are you getting them?

[Don]

Brav, sort your diet, sleep and exercise out and bin the lot.

[Baz]

Propranolol
Pizotifen
Amitriptyline
Sumatriptan
Naproxen

150 or so tablets currently chilling in the medicine box.
If you wanna sell some, let me know.

[Manc]

How often are you getting them?

Pretty much a constant battle at this point. I get the odd day of relief here and there. The word chronic has been thrown around a lot.


Brav, sort your diet, sleep and exercise out and bin the lot.

Im actually in great nick, no issues with sleep or diet.

[randomlegend]

Pretty much a constant battle at this point. I get the odd day of relief here and there. The word chronic has been thrown around a lot.



Im actually in great nick, no issues with sleep or diet.

How often are you taking triptans/naproxen/paracetamol? Can take this to PMs if you want.

[Giggles]

I reckon I’ve covid yet again but I can’t be fucking arsed making my eye water taking a test.

[7om]

Have you tried the amitriptyline yet?

I was in a similar spot a few years back when I was having daily migraines. I started nortriptyline and they disappeared in a few weeks. Was a life saver.

[Giggles]

Amitriptyline leaves you a dribbling mess.

[7om]

Amitriptyline leaves you a dribbling mess.

Really didn’t for me. I was having horrific headaches with vertigo and it worked a treat.

[Manc]

How often are you taking triptans/naproxen/paracetamol? Can take this to PMs if you want.

I knocked it all on the head a few months back. I'll pop a few ibuprofen to take the edge off when needed (it doesn't).

[randomlegend]

How many ibuprofen do you take?

Do you snore?

[Manc]

Just the two and no.

[Baz]

How long does it take ear infections to stop leaking? It's so minging.

[randomlegend]

I was advised to take 800mg of ibuprofen (four of the tablets you get from the shops; if you have prescription ones they might be 400mg ones so check) or 900mg of aspirin along with a small can of full sugar coke or red bull and an antisickness like domperidone. There's good evidence antisickness tablets are effective in reducing migraine pain even in people who don't get nausea or vomiting. You can add a triptan into the cocktail if you want. 800mg of ibuprofen is above the BNF dose so I can't really recommend it but it works for me.

The risk of medication overuse headache increases depending on the number of days you take medication on, not how many times you take it. So you are better off trying that a couple of times on one day to see if you can break the cycle rather than doing it one day, not working, doing it again the next day, etc.

It's worth keep trying through the preventers as well. I have done propranolol, pizotifen, topiramate, sodium valproate, amitriptyline and candesartan (think that's it); only propranolol was good for me.

As Giggles mentioned there's also the CGRP monoclonals although last time I looked they weren't approved on the NHS (may have changed).

I've also had things like local anaesthetic trigger point injections, and people do Botox and nerve blocks as well. It's all worth giving a go. I think there's even some half decent evidence for acupuncture (lol).

[Manc]

Appreciate the words of wisdom.

[Lofty]

Let the dog out in the garden this morning, despite knowing it was frosty my brain disengaged and I walked onto the decking, immediately going arse over tit and cracking my back (anti slip decking treatment was a waste of money). Since then I must have farted every 15 minutes :moop:

[randomlegend]

:D

[-james-]

I was diagnosed with SIBO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_intestinal_bacterial_overgrowth) a couple of weeks ago. Nobody seems to really have a clue about gut disorders, and the NHS basically don't recognise it so I had to go private, but it seems a more useful diagnosis than IBS.

The antibiotics that are usually used to treat it are nigh on impossible to get in the UK so the woman I'm seeing has prescribed me some "herbal antimicrobials". They sound absolutely whack but apparently do work though it sounds like they can be quite horrific to be on. I don't really buy it as a solution, it seems like my root issue is poor motility so it'll probably just come back unless that is addressed.

I'm just coming off of about two weeks of glorious relief from symptoms, I was prescribed antibiotics for something unrelated and they basically cured me, but it's pretty much all back now. Going to give the oregano oil a go next.

[Baz]

Mate at work has a cold water plunge pool from Soul Hub (https://www.thesoulhub.com/shop) and says he’s felt great ever since using it regularly, and no longer really feels the cold weather. Anyone here into that kind of thing?

[randomlegend]

What, bullshit?

[Don]

Ya, daily cold showers. I still get ill so it's not some 100% elixir but the value of it is undoubted.

[Baz]

Just the mere mention of Wim Hof gives him a semi.

Pretty sure he does daily cold plunges. Dunno if it's related but his skin has gone shocking, but I think that's red wine related.

[Giggles]

That name is familiar to me for some reason but I don’t think I’ve ever looked into it.

[Don]

There's no such negative side-effects, if you grow the balls for it and sustain it for a month there's no looking back.

[Manc]

Complete bollocks imo. Gave it a good go last year (a few months) and nothing noticeable changed.

[Lofty]

Not me thankfully but a fella on a podcast I listen to revealed he suffers from what is essentially continual motion sickness ever since he went on a boat whale watching on his honeymoon, sounds mildly terrifying.

[Foe]

The last time I went offshore to the platform, when I came back onshore it took ten days for the world to stop swaying.

It was absolutely terrifying that it just wouldn’t ever stop and I was googling all sorts. Safe to say my adventures offshore will be much more limited and I have little to no interest in ever going on a boats.

[Foe]

Mal de Debarquement Syndrome.

:vomit:

[Manc]

The mrs came back from London with a violent bug, spent all weekend in bed, and now inevitably I've picked it up. Bodyaches on day one is a bit much.

[niko_cee]

Probably invasive strep A, RIP.

[Spikey M]

Don't, the PANIC on Facebook over that is unreal. There's been a few cases in a local school, apparently. Tonsillitis in a school? Whatever next.

[randomlegend]

Don't, the PANIC on Facebook over that is unreal. There's been a few cases in a local school, apparently. Tonsillitis in a school? Whatever next.

The public health messaging over it has been insanely irresponsible. Work has gone mental.

[Ben]

Close the schools. Mandatory WFH until further notice.

[Waffdon]

Don't, the PANIC on Facebook over that is unreal. There's been a few cases in a local school, apparently. Tonsillitis in a school? Whatever next.

My missus sent me an email her depute sent out to teachers going on about kids being sent home with it. Honestly thought it was another monkey pox thing until I seen your post and was v confused

[Spikey M]

The public health messaging over it has been insanely irresponsible. Work has gone mental.

Indeed. Saw this yesterday.

https://i.ibb.co/TT8RxZQ/Screenshot-20221206-132104.jpg

The media are a disgrace for ramping it up like this, but equally, where the fuck have sensible heads gone? This is my favourite though:

https://i.ibb.co/tb4Qz2m/Screenshot-20221206-132350.jpg

Fuck me.

[Spikey M]

My missus sent me an email her depute sent out to teachers going on about kids being sent home with it. Honestly thought it was another monkey pox thing until I seen your post and was v confused

It's mental. It's one of the most common winter bugs as far as I'm aware. Tyler-Tyler and Jayden-Kayden are just having a harder time of it this year because they've had their immune systems wrapped in cotton wool for the past 2 years. It normally goes away on its own. At worst needs some antibiotics. We could probably do with a functioning NHS for the rare occasion it does go sideways, but here we are.

[niko_cee]

This is it now though, isn't it? The President of Madagascar has won. We're generationally fucked. Should have just let everyone die in the first one

[randomlegend]

The media are a disgrace for ramping it up like this, but equally, where the fuck have sensible heads gone? This is my favourite though:


It's not just the media, the UKHSA statement on it was ridiculous.

[Don]

Trust the science.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Facebook mums are BACK, baby.

[randomlegend]

Trust the science.

That is what we should do, yes.

[Pepe]

Covid broke things even more than 9/11.

[Spikey M]

This is it now though, isn't it? The President of Madagascar has won. We're generationally fucked. Should have just let everyone die in the first one

It's strange, because we went to a kids birthday party a couple of weeks ago and it was like a festival of lurgy. Coughs, Rosie cheeks and snotty noses all over the shop. So in some respects we're back to normal, but we do also seem to be permanently on the look out for the next disaster.


Covid broke things even more than 9/11.

Oh yeah, and it's not even close.

[Manc]

The mrs came back from London with a violent bug, spent all weekend in bed, and now inevitably I've picked it up. Bodyaches on day one is a bit much.

Day 2: Spent the last seventeen hours in bed. Piss wet through. Drifting in and out of sleep like I've got a Victorian fever. Legs feeling like led pipes. Head all over the place.

One of her colleagues has done the same thing, that is passing whatever the fuck this is (covid?) onto her husband. Poor lads got
pneumonia.

[SvN]

I had that for about 24 hours last week. Absolutely awful, spent about 16 hours in bed.

[randomlegend]

Day 2: Spent the last seventeen hours in bed. Piss wet through. Drifting in and out of sleep like I've got a Victorian fever. Legs feeling like led pipes. Head all over the place.

One of her colleagues has done the same thing, that is passing whatever the fuck this is (covid?) onto her husband. Poor lads got
pneumonia.

Flu and RSV both seem particularly grim this year. But yeah could also be covid.

[Spikey M]

There have been 8 cases of tonsillitis / scarlet fever in my daughters year group and my daughter has been sent home today because she has a cough. School policy is apparently that any suspected cases must stay off school until they're better.

That's how we got here in the first place guys... you know, by stopping kids from getting ill and developing their immune system. Top marks for doubling down though I guess.

[Ben]

Every (and I mean every) aisle-end in Asda is packed with Calpol and other kids medicine. Utterly mental.

[Gray Fox]

Heads have indeed gone.

The Mrs school was only sure it was opening today, late Sunday evening. Any child with any kind of any of the symptoms is being jettisoned back to their home until they recover.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Someone I work with has an 8 year old, last week they got Strep A (not the dying kind), this week they have something called 'croup' which sounds like an affliction that would befall you on one of Captain Cook's voyages. Natural immunity hangover from lockdown, surely, all this.

[wullie]

My daughter's been off for two weeks due to some kind of virus, then I got it. Only had a week off though because I'm a double hard bastard.

[niko_cee]

Someone I work with has an 8 year old, last week they got Strep A (not the dying kind), this week they have something called 'croup' which sounds like an affliction that would befall you on one of Captain Cook's voyages. Natural immunity hangover from lockdown, surely, all this.

Isn't 'croup' just a really nasty cough? 'Slapcheek' [I think it's actually called roseola or something] another child illness classic.

[Manc]

The next pandemic will wipe us all out.

[randomlegend]

Croup (laryngotracheobronchitis) is inflammation of the larynx (voicebox) +/- trachea (main wind pipe) +/- bronchi (the slightly small windpipes that go into your lungs) secondary to a viral infection.

The inflammation causes narrowing of the airway and causes the characteristic barking cough. Depending on the degree of narrowing, it can also cause stridor which is noisy breathing as the air is forced through the narrowed airway.

It ranges in severity from just a nasty barking cough all the way up to lifethreatening airway obstruction requiring intubation and ventilation in intensive care. People do die of it.

[randomlegend]

Also loads of parents are just lying to the schools about their kid having scarlet fever. My wife's school had multiple kids off with it having been told by parents it was "confirmed on CAU" before we had a single confirmed case.

[Gray Fox]

Heads have indeed gone.

The Mrs school was only sure it was opening today, late Sunday evening. Any child with any kind of any of the symptoms is being jettisoned back to their home until they recover.

Quite literally 8 minutes after this post my phone went with the school ringing me to go and pick one of them up. Temperature, achey and complaining of being unwell.

[Baz]

'Slapcheek' [I think it's actually called roseola or something] another child illness classic.Somehow fatally dangerous to foetus' inside pregnant women, that. As in, kids with slapcheek shouldn't be around pregnant women, eg if they've a preggo teacher.

[SvN]

My little one starts nursery Thursday, and has 2 "settling in" sessions tomorrow and Wednesday, which is basically him just going in for an hour to get used to the people before his first full day. They've just called to cancel the settling in sessions (but not the full days on Thursday and Friday) to "minimise the risk of transmission".

Someone please explain that to me, as they couldn't - other than repeating the line about transmission risk.

[randomlegend]

It's mental how schools/nurseries got told to do this for covid and now they've seemingly just taken it upon themselves to do it for this.

[Ben]

We are a nation of morons.

[7om]

My sons school seem to be the exact opposite. They want them in unless they’re on their deathbed

[Jimmy Floyd]

My little one starts nursery Thursday, and has 2 "settling in" sessions tomorrow and Wednesday, which is basically him just going in for an hour to get used to the people before his first full day. They've just called to cancel the settling in sessions (but not the full days on Thursday and Friday) to "minimise the risk of transmission".

Someone please explain that to me, as they couldn't - other than repeating the line about transmission risk.

Transmission of what?

[randomlegend]

Scarlet fever/group A strep.

[Dquincy]

My little one starts nursery Thursday, and has 2 "settling in" sessions tomorrow and Wednesday, which is basically him just going in for an hour to get used to the people before his first full day. They've just called to cancel the settling in sessions (but not the full days on Thursday and Friday) to "minimise the risk of transmission".

Someone please explain that to me, as they couldn't - other than repeating the line about transmission risk.
Sent in my youngest with a bit of a lurgy last week. The pre-school phoned me saying he had a slight fever, but was well in himself and they were happy to keep him in. Good to see they've not lost that blitz spirit.

[7om]

Croup (laryngotracheobronchitis) is inflammation of the larynx (voicebox) +/- trachea (main wind pipe) +/- bronchi (the slightly small windpipes that go into your lungs) secondary to a viral infection.

The inflammation causes narrowing of the airway and causes the characteristic barking cough. Depending on the degree of narrowing, it can also cause stridor which is noisy breathing as the air is forced through the narrowed airway.

It ranges in severity from just a nasty barking cough all the way up to lifethreatening airway obstruction requiring intubation and ventilation in intensive care. People do die of it.

Why does this read like a Wikipedia entry

[randomlegend]

Because I am an encyclopaedia of medical knowledge.

[Mike]

Sent in my youngest with a bit of a lurgy last week. The pre-school phoned me saying he had a slight fever, but was well in himself and they were happy to keep him in. Good to see they've not lost that blitz spirit.

My little ones nursery are sound with stuff. They rang the other week to say she has a temperature and ask if we minded them giving her calpol. Much better than having to collect her. She was fine too.

[Dquincy]

My little ones nursery are sound with stuff. They rang the other week to say she has a temperature and ask if we minded them giving her calpol. Much better than having to collect her. She was fine too.

Our won't give Calpol for some reason. Much rather they would if it's needed and parents consent.

[Spikey M]

My daughter has won Tonsillitis in the Strep A bingo. 12 people are left uninfected in her class.

[Waffdon]

Poor bastard is ill more than Manc and Baz

[Baz]

Poor bastard is ill more than Manc and BazMy new years rezzy is to not get ill in 2023.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You'll last a week.

[Baz]

You'll last a week.Doing dry january. Does misery count as an illness?

[Giggles]

Tryanuary is far more fun.

[Dquincy]

Bi-anuary.

[Spikey M]

I think that's what Giggles was getting at. And good luck to him.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm doing the proper version of dry January - not drinking anything at all, not even water. Will come back to this thread on 31 Jan and let you know how it's gone.

[randomlegend]

You have my full support.

[niko_cee]

Youngest child has an ear infection and is, unfortunately, not a lover of sweet things, so getting the antibiotics in is going to be fun. Last time one of his older sisters had one of these [also at Christmas time] it wrecked her otherwise excellent sleeping for 8 months, and he's a shit sleeper to start with. :cry:

[randomlegend]

Most ear infections are viral anyway.

[niko_cee]

It's interesting you should say that as I don't recall the last one getting antibiotics [shame as she would have loved them] on the basis that they usually sort themselves out/once the initial build-up of pain has happened there's not much to be done [think hers might have burst or whatever the term would be though].

[SvN]

Here comes Gregory House, limping in with his unfounded diagnosis.

[Spikey M]

It does sound like Lupus.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's never Lupus.

[Manc]

Spoken like a true Lupus. I nominate Mahow.

[Baz]

Christmas Werewolf?

[Boydy]

Christmas Werewolf?

Oh, we deffo should.

[Shindig]

Spent last night switching between shivers and heat last night. Not a wink of sleep. This is what I get for spending the weekend with a household full of flu. :moop:

[Spikey M]

The Flu has to be pound for pound the most underrated virus. You get all these mooks giving it "I have a cold or the Flu". It's a cold mate. If you don't know which it is, it's a cold. The Flu is fucking brutal, there's no mistaking it for a cold. I've had it 3 times and it's been much worse than fucking Bovid each time. Rest well sir shinners.

[niko_cee]

I've had some weird illness for the past week of so. Thought it was just a hangover last Thursday but woke up dripping in sweat the following night. Banging sore throat that comes and goes, it came back last night, so it's probably that Strep A thing.

[Foe]

I had a similar mystery illness from 28th dec through until about the 5th Jan.

Shivers, sore throat, cold like nose blowing and most concerningly loads of weird red/purple spots on my hands and insoles of my feet.

They’ve fucked off now, as has the shivers/throat etc but I’ll be damned if I know what it was.

RIP Foe.

[Don]

These spots itchy? I don't know if they're 'chillblains' or what but I first got them due to COVID and they've returned since. Mine seem concentrated on just 1 foot.

[Shindig]

Voice has gone now. Mint. :moop:

[Manc]

Broke a toe. Wonderful.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No need to cry about it.

It's not that serious.

[Foe]

These spots itchy? I don't know if they're 'chillblains' or what but I first got them due to COVID and they've returned since. Mine seem concentrated on just 1 foot.

They were on my feet, but they were just uncomfortable on my hands.

My hands were a peeling mess last week where the spots have been.

I’m actually beginning by to think it was ‘hands, feet and mouth disease’ which sounds made up, but is an actual thing and fits the description. Must’ve picked it up from my niece.

[Vercetti]

Working through my second blast of Covid. Lost the smell and taste, this time, too. :moop:

[Don]

Serves you right for [not] getting your [2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th/8th] jab, you [dirty] fuck.

[Delete where appropriate].

[Mike]

I’m full of a cold. It’s rubbish. The little one had it last week and kindly passed it on to me. Currently sound like I smoke 50 a day each time I cough, and my noses only job now is to keep my glasses on as it’s given up trying to breathe. I’ve also not been warm since about Wednesday of last week.

What I’m saying is, I’m feeling pretty sorry for myself.

[Baz]

Booked a podiatry appointment for two days after I get back from my holiday (and have rock hard feet from burning hot floor/sand) and I’m probably equally excited for that as my week in Lanzarote.

Seriously, get yourself booked in. Best thing ever.

[Boydy]

I think that post might the final confirmation that we're all fucking old now.

[Waffdon]

Even I’m 26 now as of yesterday. Fuck me.

[randomlegend]

Cut my knuckle down to the bone cooking earlier.

Knife was freshly sharpened so didn't particularly hurt, but the feeling of clonking against bone is extremely off-putting.

[Baz]

Got some smart scales that somehow measure loads of stuff from the soles of your feet. They say I have the body of a 29 year old. :flex:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Got some sort of illness.

On Friday I had a sore throat, no appetite and vomited saliva shortly after waking.

On Saturday the sore throat went away but the saliva vomit happened a couple of times plus I had nausea throughout the day, appetite was even worse and I also had stomach pains as well as a build up of mucus.

Today no vomiting and no stomach pain but I now have a slightly blocked nose and a cough. Appetite seems a bit better which is nice.

[Spikey M]

I have literally no idea what you mean when you say "vomit saliva". Do you mean you were dribbling?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think some call it "foam".

I would vomit and it would just be thick, foamy saliva coming out rather than bile or actual vomit.

I used to get it most mornings though because of something called post-nasal drip where mucus would drop down from my nose into my throat when sleeping.

[Spikey M]

Sounds like rabies. RIP.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hmm, I did recently get bit...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Appetite seems to have come back.

Not feeling full after 3 bites :drool:

[Dquincy]

My kids had something similar recently. You'll be fine.

But it does mean you have the immune system of a child.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Smell and taste seem to be lacking today so seems like rabies/COVID hybrid.

[Dquincy]

Smell and taste seem to be lacking today so seems like rabies/COVID hybrid.

Turns out it was covid as the grandparents now have it. Woops.

Rip Mahow.